What Happened to the Middle-Class Rapper?
smoo: Yo, what it do, man. It's your boy Smooth, aka Mr. Do What It Do, aka Always On the Move, and this is episode seventy-three of the Fall Home Podcast.
2: What's up with your boy two another second? Just let the junior high ghoula can never die as long as your boy two alive. Three, what's happening with you?
3 god: Man, me threezy, eighty three, not the number but the name. Three on the shoulder, man, just excited for another pod cash, man. One more week to kick off Cheese Spronco. You already know so, you know, I'm getting my mindset together, man. What's up with y'all boy?
Eric: Yes, Erskine, you got three on the shoulder, so I'm gonna wrap it for you. I said what? My bad, my bad. I didn't see it. You did.
3 god: I think I did do that, nigga. I did do three on the joke, didn't I? Damn, my bad.
Big: No, you did.
smoo: Damn practice version.
2: Night.
Eric: Man, you know that. Yeah.
3 god: So shout out Dingo, man, why I did it, man. Shut up.
Eric: Yeah, because, for me, I'm like, it's episode 73. So I think it's going to get it today for sure.
3 god: Mm-hmm.
2: Hey did I did a woman.
Eric: OK, my bad, my bad. You know what it is, man. Jumaan,
3 god: Right is there.
Eric: Jupiter, commission cowboy, blue bill wheels. Also known as Eric, that works too. For all your mental health needs, visit myconnectcounseling.net. Again, for all your mental health needs, visit myconnectcounseling.net. Episode 73, you know, we got a Marvin Gaye drop, let's get it on in 19. So let's get this episode on.
Wills On The Tank: Okay.
Eric: Let's have an amazing episode. You know what it is.
Wills On The Tank: That's what's up, man. All praise to the most high, man. It's your homie, Terrell Tarantino, aka Terrell Wheels, aka T Wheels, aka T Wheels on the tank, aka the Cotta Blendada, aka the Iron Fist hitting you harder than ever. Coming at you like that there, man, for episode 73. Shout out to all the fans. We be the heads of the Cool Cat Clan.
Eric: I'm a full-track fan,
2: Mm.
Eric: you hear me?
3 god: Okay, Clan. Hey, and hey, hey, Bill, don't forget about Dave Hill and Nick Allighari. two famous Cheese players. number 73. You know what I'm
Eric: Yup. I don't know them boys, but...
3 god: talking about? Hey, don't do that, man. Don't do that.
Big: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. Your boy Big Darren. Live from the loft.
3 god: Yeah.
Big: Live from the sofa. You feel me? Special talk. Let's get it. Let's get it. Hey, you say
smoo: Okay.
Big: kickoff for the football for the NFL, but hey, this week we had kickoff for the NCAA. Hey, we had some bangles, boy. I'm talking by. Woo!
3 god: We had some bangers and we had some robberies or a robbery, but we got it.
smoo: What's the robbery,
Big: Nah.
smoo: boo? What's the robbery? Tell us the robbery. Mm-hmm.
3 god: What's the robbery? Is that the way we easing on in? Come on, man. Hey, bro, look,
Wills On The Tank: It looked like a robbery.
smoo: Hey, you you tell it what it is. What happened?
3 god: look, that
2: I feel you.
3 god: I'm talking about Route 66. I'm talking about 285. I'm talking about straight highway robbery, bro. That shit was just fucking cr Bro. Cud through that bitch. I'm talking well, let me let me say the previous I'm talking about Michigan versus Western Michigan.
Big: Okay.
3 god: Cuz throw that bitch. It ain't no interception of course or whatever. But with zero seconds left on the clock, Rail come back in that bitch, say, uh-uh, uh-uh, uh-uh. Replay that bitch. Yeah, there's still
2: Yeah.
3 god: one second left. Hey, then hey Nigga put a sprinkler out on the field, then it
smoo: Niggas called Buffalo Wild Wing, didn't it?
2: What hello?
Big: Man, I'm somebody that's crazy. And then he almost caught it the first time. And then he caught it that second time. And that was a fucking crazy ass play. But I get, I guess we all learned something that if the player is out of bounds, not even if his feet ain't even touching, if the ball touches him, it's dead. That's
smoo: Mm-hmm.
Big: why they put that one second back on the clock. Cause he was out of bounds. But I'm like, shit, you don't know if he's finna. When if he tapped one foot in or something, he was
Eric: Yeah.
Big: in the air.
3 god: No, no, but still though, still though. Like it hit it's the clock hit zero before that that dude even touched ball. That's what I was saying. It should have just been
smoo: Well they said they said it's a different clock too. It's a different clock than the TV clock. at the end
Big: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. The clock on the field didn't hit zero. the clock
smoo: of the day, at the end of the day though, bro, at
3 god: Not him as yeah.
smoo: the end of the day though, nigga, they ran the play again and them niggas got souped on. They got mossed on. Like that at the end of the day,
Big: That's but look look look
smoo: bro, you talking about you talking about the probability of one out of a trillion of that happening. Twice two, you get to run these play twice and you niggas lost.
3 god: No bro, no, no, Smoo. You can't say that dog. No, bro.
Big: But look, but look, but look, but I tell you what though. But I tell you what though, Smooth. That's the truth. But when the first throw was out of bounds. The second
smoo: Yeah.
Big: throw, he threw that bitch right in at gold line, right on the line. Like you, it was. Yeah. And they got the tallest receiver.
2: He saw I know where to put it at now.
smoo: Right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
3 god: You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying.
Big: And the nigga was way bigger than the DBs. The nigga was just like, hell no, bro. They,
smoo: Yeah.
Big: hey, they was like, I got it this time.
2: But you also you gotta
3 god: Hey Daryl.
2: you in the factor too though, the teams that was playing, they wouldn't let that they wouldn't they wouldn't rewind today if that was two power some something like that. And which they say
smoo: That's a great point. That's a great point.
2: like, man, we ain't gonna mess up. Cause cause they not thinking they give them the wit them a shot again, but they not thinking they might but let's give a shot. But we not gonna go out our way for a whisking. We not gonna out of the way for
Big: Thanks.
2: whiskey, cause at the end of the the season, y'all not fighting for no ball games. We messing the season d forget the season we ain't messing the money up. Not for y'all. Y'all posted a prob like you said, a probability. You should a somebody put a hand
Eric: Yeah.
2: on it or put a hand on the receiver.
3 god: I'm not I'm not hearing that shit, man.
2: I fear you.
3 god: this this my shit.
Big: Why not three?
3 god: Is that my shit? Or I'm trying to make it ain't my innate.
smoo: Now you got it, you got it dang.
3 god: I'm not hearing that shit you talking about too, or that shit smooth talking about, bro. bro, just like even Daryl said, nigga, niggas say, shit, what that nigga name is, lethal shooter. Uh-uh, I I see it now. What that nigga be saying? I understand this now. Hey damn. Hey damn. No cap, bro.
Big: I understand it now. That what that what the fuck happened. That's what I believe.
Wills On The Tank: I understand it now.
smoo: Yeah. Yeah.
Eric: Get an answer. I really gave them boys a practice.
smoo: Yeah.
Big: Facts.
3 god: I'ma tell you what that shit reminds me of. I don't know which madden it was. But nigga can run a whole play and be like, yeah, I ain't like that bitch. Get an interception, everything. I ain't like that bitch and do the madden rerun and rerun that bitch a whole run that play again. And I'm like, bro, that shit trash, bro. And all this
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: money college football make, we talking about NILs and all that shit. You tell me you can't get two synchronized clocks? The fuck outta here, man. I'm not hearing that shit, man.
Eric: Yeah, yeah.
smoo: Well nah it ain't it ain't necessarily about two synchronized clocks, it's just the T V clock versus the game clock.
Big: Yeah, the T V clock kinda be off a little bit.
3 god: You can't get a TV clock single nine.
Eric: Man, the game wasn't supposed to be that close. deserved to lose.
smoo: Yeah, yeah.
Big: It's it's but but but d but it it it's synchronized,
3 god: It's football though, Bill.
Big: but what it is is it might be milliseconds off. It ain't a second off, it might be like half a millisecond, you know what mean? And so or or half a second, not not a half a millisecond, but half a second.
3 god: Yeah. It's like it's a late.
smoo: Yeah. And and and the and the bigger and the bigger a bigger point is the bigger point is though, man, we gotta talk about Bryce Underwood, man. you know, he'll five star. They paid him 12 million, you know what I'm saying, to come to Michigan. Tom Brady endorsed him. And you know, going out there going twelve for
Big: He ain't really showing up.
smoo: 12 for 22 versus Western Michigan? Like, bro, what we doing?
Eric: Yeah, that's That's crazy.
smoo: And you know what, what's the what's the leash? You at Michigan. These niggas won the national championship two years ago. You know what I'm saying? You the top recruit.
Big: Fancy.
smoo: I don't I th that's a bad look. That's a bad look, especially if you would have lost.
Big: But do d d do do you think it's the coaching though, Smooth?
smoo: Hell nah they no coaching. Nigga, you the five-star recruit. Six five
Big: Yeah.
smoo: two forty at Michigan. Nigga, nigga, I could be coaching that bitch. You supposed to be out there.
Eric: Wait, he got to... Hold up, hold up.
2: He You can't you can't encourage that.
Big: I can't believe that either, Bill. Say it, said Bill. I can't
Eric: Dude,
Big: believe what he said. I can't believe that's
Eric: wait, you got 12 years?
smoo: got twelve in.
3 god: Yeah yeah.
Eric: be sucky too!
smoo: You'll be sucking?
Eric: Pause, whoa, whoa, pause, major pause, major pause. look, I would
3 god: Yeah, that's crazy. Hey, take a drink on hey, take a drink on that shit, smooth.
Big: But nah, nah, we get what you're saying, Bill. We get what you're saying.
2: Yeah.
smoo: It wasn't me who said That nigga said it.
Eric: be garbage too! Hey,
3 god: I know, that's why I say I'm taking a drink on that.
Eric: hold up, hold up, hold hold hold up. How old is this dude, 18, 19?
smoo: Nineteen.
Eric: Man, y'all just gave a 19-year-old 12 million, bruh, what? If you 19 with
Big: Paole. Paula.
Eric: $12 million? I football at that point. gotta get, y'all don't want me to.
smoo: What? Hell no. No, I don't think they I think, I think that's
Wills On The Tank: I love it.
smoo: shit like a a a contract of some sort. You know what I'm saying? 12 million.
Big: Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. It probably through his whole career, huh?
smoo: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But regardless
Eric: God.
smoo: though, regardless though, bro, this shit looking kinda it's looking kinda sloppy and and that's what's what's the
Big: Now, now Michigan is in the it's the Big Ten, right? Or the big Big Ten, right? Okay,
smoo: Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Big: I always get the big Big 12 or Big Ten, I always get them mixed up. But everybody always thinks the Big Ten is way b better than SEC. That's some bullshit. SEC is too fucking tough, bro. After watching
Eric: Yeah, hoot!
Big: this week, Alabama look crazy, Georgia look crazy, LSU look fucking crazy. Bro, no, I'm telling no, I'm I'm just saying
smoo: No, you nah, that's too early. It's too early.
3 god: Yeah, yeah, what is it?
Big: from the first week. Cause last time, last year, Alabama looked the trash the first week. They was okay, but man, they knew quarterback. LSU looked dominant. Alabama looked dominant, the new quarterback, Georgia looked dominant. And my biggest thing is all of them gotta play each other, quote unquote. That's crazy. Texas looking good, you know?
smoo: Yeah. Hey, we
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: gotta talk about Lane Kiffin though. We gotta talk about Lane Kiffin. Cause and I'm gonna tell you this. I feel like LSU, they had the most impressive win of the whole weekend.
Big: I agree.
smoo: I'm saying? Because Clemson, they ain't no slouch. You know what I'm saying? And y'all go out and beat
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: y'all go out and beat these niggas fifty-one to ten.
2: Feito bar.
Eric: no, I got it.
Big: with a new
smoo: Of UDP.
Big: squad, with a new coach, and and like they only had a couple months to get ready.
Eric: Kiffin
smoo: I
Eric: on the sideline shooting hoops. Did y'all see that video? That video, that boy's on the sideline shooting hoops.
2: Yeah.
3 god: Yeah, nigga don't get bit to nigga though.
smoo: Man, that shit crazy, man. That shit crazy.
Big: Baby, danke.
smoo: And then it speaks to like, man, Dabo Sweeney is behind like a motherfucker. When it comes to this NIL shit and this transfer portal, man.
Eric: was gonna be Nick Saban's, that was gonna be his thing. That's how Nick Saban would have been looking too. I think so.
smoo: Well, man, we're finna delete this nigga,
2: Yeah.
smoo: man. This nigga finna get deleted. What?
Eric: I think Nick needs to what he's
2: No matter
Eric: been my life. And I think he's the one that's most
Big: But now, hold on, hold on, hold on. Who is Charlie Weiss? That nigga nice.
2: Hey, hey.
Eric: important.
Big: Charlie Weiss is nice, bro. The I think he's the outfits the coordinator.
smoo: let Bill off what what you were saying, Bill.
Eric: No, I just think that Nick Saban saw that this was possibly a possibility for him, Dabo Sweeney, because you know, Dabo Sweeney, major powerhouse, great coach, but for his era, I think Nick Saban is also same, cut from the same cloth. I think Nick Saban was like, all right, I don't got control over these players like I used to, so let me step out of the way, personally.
2: I think so too. Whether you wanna chalk that up to integrity or or how you wanna chalk it up, I think Saban get out the way before it could tank his legs, you know. D dabbo trying to pr d d Dabo
smoo: Saben was fucking seventy-five. What the fuck y'all want
Big: That's true.
smoo: the nigga to do? He old. What y'all niggas talking about?
Big: Think, I I think, I think it was just, I
Eric: You're the big guy, Aiden!
Big: I agree, I agree, Smooth. I agree
2: Alright, but look though, but look though. He couldn't.
Eric: Big guy, Aiden!
Big: with Smooth. I think it was just the end of a legacy. And it was the perfect time to get out. Like he seen where it was going. He seen the NILs
Eric: Thank you.
Big: coming in. He like, hey, that ain't my that ain't my era. That ain't my, you know, that ain't my forte.
Eric: Exactly! That's what I'm saying!
2: But I but also
smoo: Hold on. Y'all saying this like Dabo Sweeney shit ended like way before this shit before Saban still went to the college playoffs with the NIL and the transfer portal. He still
3 god: Right.
smoo: went to national championship with the transfer portal. Y'all know that, right?
Eric: Man, that was off of what he built three seasons ago, bruh. I mean, yeah.
2: Let's come on man, let's right, let's not get on how
smoo: What you talking
2: don't the boys getting
smoo: about? Jameson Williams
2: babied to them the playoffs and all that, but I ain't gonna say nothing on that. But also it it was like right, it was it was signed. With his record with res With his resume, he could have left
smoo: The year before that? What you can say what about the year before that?
2: whenever he wanted to. It was on his terms. But his excuse on the way out was like, Damn, okay, you saw the sign of the times, you Yeah, I'm gonna leave it here. And I think that's what we talking to.
Big: And what wasn't a cap then, it was cap the earnings though, wasn't it? At that point.
smoo: Bro, his somebody had a stroke. I'm not gonna speak on that, but somebody had a stroke. He just lead just to leave. Maybe that's inside information.
Eric: Yeah, you probably got it. We're
3 god: Okay, Small.
2: Hey
Eric: two Alabama fans, know.
Big: Smooth got inside information. I'm like, damn.
2: That boy got a Tuscaloosa address, don't it?
smoo: Maybe that's inside information. But no, I think I think it definitely
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: is. I think it's still it's still attached to the NIL and how things moving though. But I think, you know, if you got if you got current health issues and shit like that, like you ain't finna, like y'all say, be dealing with all of this shit that's that's that's
Eric: Sure, for sure.
smoo: to come for sure. What you think, Dink?
3 god: mean to Bill Bill got a point, but you I think you kinda debunked it with the Dabo Sweeney going to the playoffs. I I don't I you you gotta think about it. that if it's Nick Saban and you can give out money, y you act like he was he started up from the like from a little school and couldn't do nothing. No, bro, it's Alabama now. I get more and I can give you legal money now. So I I don't I don't see that being an issue for Now I can see some players probably like leaving for some more money or other than that, but you still talking about sports wise powerhouse Alabama and money wise. Like so I'm still i I'm still getting the best cream of the crop because I got the the sports and I got the cash. It's not like I got to deal with either one. Like I'm like, okay, I got money but I'm not that good at football or I'm good at football but I can't, compete with the money. So I'm not saying you wrong, but it's just a say that automatically say that he would have had an issue with it and that's why he left. I just don't I don't think so. I think he
Big: I I just I just think it was just too much money. when you say bro got 12 million, ain't no that's crazy.
smoo: Yeah, now that's that's a good point. That's a good point. I don't think he wanted to deal with that part of it. for a young nigga like Bryce Underwood, for let's just say Bryce Underwood and a nigga he coming to Nick Saban like, Hey, I want twelve M's
Big: And Nick Saban, he a person
3 god: Yeah, I can see that.
Big: sh like he he
2: Uh-huh.
Big: more of a show and prove type of coach. You feel me? It's like, well, I'm getting you twelve million, you ain't even prove yourself.
smoo: Right, right, right, right. And that's and but to that point though, but to that point I think that's kinda like why why Georgia ain't really did nothing in the last three or four years 'cause Kirby kinda like one of those dudes, they say Kirby like ain't really paying niggas like that. Like if you gon' come here, nigga, you just coming here to be a part of Georgia. But like you ain't coming here just thinking that you finna get, you know what I'm saying, twelve, twenty M's. So, you know,
Big: Facts.
smoo: yeah, so I mean when you talk about that, yeah. I think all these these guys would have been in a mix,
2: That's it.
smoo: but it's it's it's such a
Big: It w it'd be hard to kinda like, yeah.
smoo: it's such an even playing field though. it it like the playing field is is is crazy. You know what I'm saying? Like you got Texas Tech competing on
Big: Facts.
smoo: a on a crazy level. Like what are we talking about? Texas Tech? You know what I'm saying?
Big: Facts, facts. Yep, yep. They were number four last year, shit.
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: How much the quarterback for L S U getting paid?
smoo: I think he getting paid 4.5.
Big: Yeah, he gonna he gonna good a little bit. And they got in front, I think he got in front of transfer.
Wills On The Tank: It's crazy, man.
3 god: You get four point five and could get
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: twelve? Yes.
smoo: Yeah, yeah, Levit. No, no, but that's what I'm saying though. I think Bryce Underwood, I think that that's over a span of three to four years. Yeah,
3 god: Okay, okay, okay, I see.
smoo: and Levit, Levit and buddy from Miami,
Big: one year.
smoo: the guy from Miami got he getting paid the most. He getting paid like six million.
Big: He get he get that nigga get some bread. They all they all got from the transfer porter too, I think.
smoo: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey, who
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: y'all who do y'all think is the better receiver? Two. I want you to ask ask the answer the question. Who you think a better receiver?
3 god: Easy.
Big: I already know who you finna say.
smoo: Malachi Tony Jeremiah Smith.
Big: Ooh, that's tough, bruh.
Eric: Would you rather have Megatron or Tyre Hill is the question.
Big: I like I I like I like Tony and they both from Miami though. They both from Miami. But I like I like Jeremiah Smith, bro.
Eric: Y'all sleeping on buddy from old me. I'm just say that right now. Y'all sleeping on He just ain't got a chance to prove them and I know this
Big: That nigga so motherfucking fast, boy. He took them fucking burners on. But but I I know why smooth making the comparison. Cause those two
2: my god.
Big: guys are from Miami. They from the same city. I think they went to the same high school or some shit. And he was supposed to be on
Eric: Yeah, my bad too.
Big: Jeremiah Smith was supposed to be on Miami. And it's crazy that they lost in the fucking playoffs to his hometown. But I like, I like, I
3 god: I look.
Big: think he a little bigger. But I like Malachi Tony. He's smooth and he reminds me of a Percy Harvin or something. he's small. I don't like too much small wide receivers. I like somebody you can throw that bitch deep and he's gonna go get that motherfucker. Malachi, he more like in
3 god: Mm.
Big: between traffic. I don't that just ain't my style of play.
smoo: Right. What you got two?
2: I have none on this point, bro.
smoo: you don't like neither one of them niggas?
2: n nah, I I think I ain't I wasn't yeah, I like both of I just I don't know. I don't know. I really don't. I like butter from Ohio State.
smoo: What you who you like, Bill?
Eric: Bro, you know who I'm going with. I'm going with Tony all day. Malachi, Malachi gonna get you. You
smoo: Yeah.
Big: Why why built built why Bill? Why?
Eric: know what, you know what? I'ma tell you why, cause you don't expect it from him. Malachi, Tony, every bit of five, seven. The man probably got a vertical of 45. You know what I mean? He just, he probably
3 god: That nigga like five eleven.
Eric: four, he probably sub four, three in the 40, but he run like a three, nine on the field. You know I mean? And, and, and, and, and, and, and, 5'7". You know what I mean? People, say receiving is a tall man's game. Well, well, Malachi Tony, didn't he, didn't you see that boy hit the high man three times? He told you he going to get. It's Malachi Tony all day because you expect that, you expect
2: What it reminds you of Bill?
Big: He nice, he nice man.
Eric: that from a 6, you expect that from a 6'5", 6'6", 240
Big: Yeah.
Eric: built like a, tank, you can run like a deer. You expect that from him. But you don't expect that from Malachi Tony to get you 200 yards, three touchdowns in a preseason opener. So give me Malachi.
3 god: Hey, bad who who responded Nick?
smoo: You got it. You got it.
Big: Now you gotta think.
3 god: Hey let's let niggas talk. first I think like I think that nigga like six foot He he
smoo: He not, he not didn't.
3 god: is like five he's five eleven.
Eric: Who, Malakanton?
Big: Yeah nah, he not six foot.
smoo: he's not, bro.
Eric: Malakanton?
Big: No, fuck no. Hey, like Bill said he like five seven. Hey, that and and if he is, that that's cause they they weigh him with cleats on.
3 god: No, that nigga five ten, five eleven. Who wanna bit? Hold on, hold on, hold on.
smoo: He not ding. Nigga, you can bet all you wanna
Eric: Hello, I'm looking it up right now.
smoo: bet. He's not five, eleven, six foot.
3 god: Bro Bro, that
Eric: I'm looking it up right now.
2: Hey kill
3 god: nigga that nigga I'm looking
2: my boy whole po
3 god: I'm looking at ESBN right now, five eleven, one eighty eight. Yo, nigga, I know I want to count.
Eric: Wow, bro. That didn't happen
smoo: Bro,
Eric: real.
smoo: you very cap, brother. Very cap. I don't give a fuck what you looking at.
3 god: Nigga, I'm looking at it right now. Five 511-188.
Big: think I think they did that with cleats on. I think they what I think they measured that nigga with
smoo: Brother He's not five eleven, but
Eric: Yeah, he's not hot at all.
3 god: Bro, I don't give
Big: cleats on.
3 god: Nigga, I don't give a
Eric: I do.
3 god: fuck what they supposed to be with click. I'm going based on what these niggas say. Nigga, it's like I believe it's. How's that wrong?
smoo: Nigga, you wrong. You are you're
Eric: There no way I would have lived.
smoo: you are very wrong, bro. You're very wrong.
3 god: So we don't trust ESB no more?
smoo: No. No.
Eric: Do that.
smoo: I know I know how to sit operate. Nigga gonna give you two inches off the rip.
Eric: They said I was 5'11". When they would list
3 god: Who said it? Who the fuck said that dumb shit? Who said that?
smoo: Who
Eric: me, I got my little pamphlets and everything to show you that my height was
3 god: Bro, I'm looking
Eric: 5'11", bro.
3 god: nigga, I'm looking at everything right now. Everybody's saying five eleven. Everybody. SPN, Okay, okay, so so so I
smoo: Dink. Dink. Come on, bro. Come on, bro. Come on. So what's your point? What's your point? What's your point?
Big: They just giving them height, bro.
3 god: my point wasn't that it was just like I was like, Bill, that nigga like five eleven, he won five seven. But if y'all all sudden hold on there, hello. Hold on there.
Big: But then and then and then go go go ahead, Dean.
smoo: No gorm, yeah?
3 god: If we I mean we just ain't trust the E SPN no more or other people like So fuck it. I guess he ain't. I guess we we I guess what you said earlier, inside information. Fuck out here. Anyway, I I like I like I like Tony, but I'm I'm going with that Jeremiah Love, though. that nigga that nigga that that nigga that nigga is I don't care how many Heisman poses he do that
smoo: Are you talking about who you going who you going with, Dink? You going with Love? The nigga that
Eric: The fake dude for the 49ers?
3 god: I'm going low, bro. Man, come on, man.
smoo: the nigga that played for the Cardinals?
3 god: No, Nick I say Jeremiah.
Big: Smith, Smith, Jeremiah Smith.
3 god: they like a little
Big: Bala
3 god: that nickel. That's why I was saying.
smoo: Well you won't win it you won't believe you wouldn't
Wills On The Tank: Ha ha ha.
Big: But
2: Just right though, man.
3 god: See it, that nigga too, fuck it. No,
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Big: And and but Ding
3 god: Smith, I'm going No, I'll
Big: Ding w
smoo: Hold on, Dara, hold on, bro. What you got, D?
3 god: I'll go with Smith though. That nigga that nigga's a dog, bro. That nigga a dog. I ain't gonna lie to you. Now Tony is a dog too though. I I would tell you this though. If if it were us, when I say us, I'm talking about that K C we going with we going with what you call it instead though.
Big: Malica
smoo: Hey, now that's a better question, though. That's a better question. Who is a better
3 god: yeah. Yeah. She's going after
Eric: And you must say I don't fuck up.
3 god: him.
smoo: who's a better fit for the league? For real, for real. That's a better question.
3 god: Well I think both of
Big: Both of them a good
3 god: will be.
Big: fit, but it just it's just different, it's just different playstyles. Just different playstyles. I like what Dean said with
3 god: And the Reagan Andy Reagan though, but if Andy Reed had the first round pick, he's going for
Big: KC, though. Malakatoni is a better fit for KC. Because he just like Cheetah. he just like that.
3 god: I'm tired of it. I need Pat. I need
2: Miko
Big: Who who you who you like, Smoo?
3 god: But that's what I'm saying though. I need Pat to get a Jeremiah Love. I'm tired of these quicks.
smoo: Man, you know who I'm rocking with, man. I'm rocking with the nigga who was that nigga before all them niggas. Ryan Williams. That's who I'm rocking with. That's who I'm rocking with. The only problem.
Eric: hell no. He dropped so many passes.
smoo: Man, dog, I listen, bro. Man, I turned I listen, dog.
2: Ha ha.
smoo: I turned off that game twice, dog. I turned it off twice, bro. I was
Eric: Dang, bro.
smoo: like, bro, what is going on? He had the same problem last year. But the nigga had five catches for 163 yards.
3 god: I do yeah, he did.
smoo: And he dropped two. So really he had 200 yards. And I can't defend him. I can't defend him when you talk about Malachi Tony. You talk about Jeremiah Smith. These niggas got hands. They got hands. That's the most important thing. But nigga, he he a better playmaker than both of them niggas. But he
3 god: Isn't?
smoo: just can't catch the ball.
3 god: So how you a better playmaker?
Big: I agree, Dink.
smoo: Outside outside of dropping the ball, bro. Outside of dropping the bing. Bro, you know what I'm trying to say, bro. You know what I'm trying to say.
3 god: You can't you can't that's a big discrepancy though, Smooth. That's a big discrepancy. No, but I know what
Wills On The Tank: Ha ha ha
Eric: For a receiver, for a receiver.
3 god: you're saying, but I'm saying you can't say that somebody's a better playmaker.
smoo: Nigga, he's not. I'm defending my point. He's not nowhere better than them niggas. That's let's get that out the out the air. Everybody knows he's not on the board with these niggas. But what I'm telling you is when he has the ball in his hands, they're not better than him. That's what I'm telling you. It's a big difference. When he catched the ball, nigga, he had he had five catches for 163.
3 god: But he don't never have the ball. Nigga dropped that bitch. No, no,
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: I that's just a joke. I know now that nigga a hooper. That nigga a fucking baller. I d
smoo: I just
Eric: body
smoo: can't I just can't explain
Eric: light.
smoo: why the nigga keep dropping a fucking ball, bro. I can't I can't explain it.
3 god: Hey, if that's the case, though, smooth.
Eric: Bro, do you know how awesome you gotta be as a receiver in Alabama to drop that many balls and still be on the field? Do you know how great you gotta be,
Big: Who who who you say is smooth? Ron or Ryan? Ryan, Ryan, okay, okay. I was like, run.
smoo: Ron Williams. Well, I think I think I think this how I see it though, Bill.
3 god: Damad.
smoo: This how I see it. This how I see it. I see it as they they gotta instill that confidence in him because he he he can make too many plays.
Big: He just ain't got the hands though. how how can you train a nigga to catch the ball and a nigga done been in all the fucking biggest situations? He can't catch the fucking ball.
smoo: Well, he did it. He he did it. He did it his freshman year. And I think that sophomore slump shit, back to the Bryce Underwood shit, these niggas got all that money. And shit, man.
Big: True. True. Hey,
3 god: Well this this junior year right here though, ain't it? Tell my Ain't this ain't this junior year right here?
Eric: life.
Big: he need them sticky gloves though. That shit that they a need some sticky gloves or something. But now
Wills On The Tank: The other stuff they put on back in the day.
smoo: What you got thing?
Big: Yeah, he needs
Eric: Yeah.
Big: something something to catch that motherfucker. But now let me ask y'all this.
Wills On The Tank: That little black stuff.
3 god: Hey t hey Smooth.
smoo: W How long, how long, Darrell? Hold on, bro.
3 god: Smooth. Smooth. Isn't isn't this this is this junior year right here, ain't it? And
smoo: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it is.
Big: Yeah, hey Joey.
3 god: you you talking about Sophomore Slump and we coming back into the shit? I just I
smoo: Right. Yeah. Yeah. I know. It's
3 god: think dude good. Hey, hey, any receiver. I put like this though. That's let's let me ask you this then. Since you taking him over over buddy from Miami and Ohio, is he even Better than the top Alabama wide receiver. Cause right now right, right, right, right now.
Big: I think he definitely top Alabama wide receiver.
smoo: What do you I don't know, what do you
3 god: no, gimme give me something real. You might say he'll better playmaker, but can you trust him more than Judy?
smoo: no, hell no. Yeah no Fuck no.
3 god: You know what I'm saying? That's so that's what I'd be saying, speak speaking of speaking of, he'll be he'll be a better fit to the Chiefs than the damn nigga from Miami. 'Cause that's all we were known for dropping ball. Type of shit.
Big: But now now what what about smooth? What about with the with the ball on the the game on the line? Who you going to to make a play? That's the question.
smoo: I if we if we talking about game on the line out of the best receiver in the l in the in the nation, shit, Malachi.
Big: Well no no no on Alabama, on Alabama.
smoo: that's
Eric: game.
smoo: that's still to be that's still to be seen. Yeah. Yeah. But but we talking about we
3 god: No, that w I ain't I ain't go yeah, 'cause that's Julio, but I was just I was just making it
smoo: talking about we talking about we talking about the best receiver in the nation, game on the line, I'm going Malachi Tony.
Eric: We got that dog in it, That's different.
smoo: Yeah, he got that dog in him. Speaking of dog,
Big: And he gonna catch that bitch.
smoo: speaking of dog, nigga, who watched lying this?
3 god: This one let's all have
smoo: Who wants learning this?
Eric: I don't watch lioness.
3 god: What do you mean in black, cuz?
smoo: Hey two, you on you on
Big: see.
smoo: mute two.
2: I'm on season two, so I can't even speak to it.
smoo: my God.
Eric: Yeah, dang. We got it.
3 god: Damn, my nigga smooth ready for this.
Eric: got
smoo: Yeah, I know I know I know Bill to watch it.
3 god: Y'all boy go with
Eric: Yeah, I like that.
3 god: it, go with it. well two said he ain't heard it. But too.
2: I said nine, I ain't worried about it.
smoo: So Bill, you seen the last episode?
Eric: Mm-hmm. Amen.
3 god: Hold on, let me mute our boy cover. This shit that good is.
2: It's fire.
Eric: Nah, it's
Big: It is good
Eric: just, know,
Big: like that?
Eric: man, it's one of the best
2: It's fire.
smoo: This is a fucking cruise.
Eric: shows I've seen for sure.
Big: What is on though? What what what what station?
smoo: The reason it's on paramount.
Big: Paramount, bam.
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: yeah, go talk about it 'cause I ain't go I ain't getting paramount.
2: Do
Eric: Yeah.
2: your thing.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: This bitch on Netflix, go ahead, have phone.
smoo: That's definitely worked.
Eric: What you think about it, bro?
smoo: I mean I feel like I feel like Lioness give you a inside a s inside view of how these proxy teams and the CIA, the FBI, DA and all these motherfuckers work. You know what I'm saying? I feel like it gives you a real insight of everything that's going on behind the scenes of how like the United States operates. And I'm not talking about no fake tious shit. I'm talking about like real situations. You know what I'm saying? And I
Big: Yeah.
smoo: think it's it's it's crazy like when you talk about, you know, we talk about the war in Iran, like that's going on currently and how that ties to China, how's it ties to Russia, and like how all that's like playing out on this season, you know saying as we're actively going through a war right now. It's like actively going, going on. And I think the episode this past episode was so dope because Joe, which is Sonia Lathan, she got captured and she she like in man, it's so fucking cra it's crazy because
Eric: That's a lot, that's annihilating those.
smoo: Joey Sardana, my fucking bad. My my bad, my bad, my bad.
Wills On The Tank: My girl right though.
smoo: I used to love both of at the same time. Right, right, right,
2: Shit, I still do.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: right, right. But yeah, Joey
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: this that
smoo: Sardana. That's
3 god: show, this that show with the Zoe girl. I have heard about that. Yeah.
smoo: Yeah, yeah. So what's so what's so crazy about you really learn a lot, bro. And so what's so fucking crazy about these past two or three episodes is the fact these niggas these niggas stole her or kidnapped her and like they've been they they how do you say it they so they had a flight is it flight plan? It's a manifestation. What's the word that they use? A manifest.
Big: Manifest. Flight manifest.
2: Manifest
Wills On The Tank: Manifesto.
2: manifest, yeah.
smoo: A flight manifest, they had a flight manifest, and so normally anytime you fly, there's a flight manifest for every time you fly somebody. But these niggas, what they did was when they captured her, they instead of flying at the normal altitude, these niggas been flying 70,000 feet below the altitude, so
Eric: Yeah. Yeah.
smoo: that way they cannot be trapped. They exactly and then
Wills On The Tank: The sing Yeah, yeah, I heard
Eric: Mm-hmm.
Wills On The Tank: it I heard it that before.
smoo: And then they took her to Texas. And then they went through this whole spill of why they took her to Texas. Because it was like the it was like the the closest state to get her to Mexico. And like, and then when you when she gets on the plane from Mexico, like Mexico will be like the the only place you can fly over the Atlantic without being seen. And I was like,
Eric: Yeah. Yeah.
smoo: Bro, this shit was fucking crazy. And then what was even more crazy, when these niggas, when they was going to get her, and them niggas all popped like some Adderall. It's like, nigga, it's time to go get her, nigga. And it was like, God damn, nigga, everybody on drugs. It don't matter. It don't matter, nigga. Everybody started popping pills. They was like, nigga, it's time to go get her. Man, I was like.
Eric: Hey, look, the highest. We're trying to go to war. Hey, but you know what? You know what's crazy? How they even kidnapped her in the first place. Like they didn't know it was her because what happened was these attacks on all of these these operations was being run in Iran and They knew the team or they had an estimate or they guessed of who a few people who was behind these Iran operations. And so they sent case officers to Zoe, is that her case, Joe House.
smoo: Joe, yeah.
Eric: And they had just like little case officers that go through the door acting like they were police telling them to come outside. But man, a whole, you know what I mean? She in the CIA. You're like, I ain't doing like
smoo: That nigga.
Eric: what you mean? anybody else? they wouldn't respond like that. She ended up killing the dudes on her front lawn and they was like, snap, that's who it is. Like they really out here playing chess and bro, even the fact that they got the Russian spy, bro, they got her to flip, how she was able to put these like scenarios together with these little clues about, I'm like, bro, what is people out here that's really out here moving?
smoo: Right.
Eric: this show.
smoo: Right she was the one she was the one that helped them realize that she was being taken to Texas.
Eric: Exactly. She told him about the flight manifesto. She told him about how they only really trying to see how the US responds. She broke it down within a week's time period. They move into a safe house. Two days, day three, they moving into another safe house. They have to be low profile. They moving in this type of car. They in this type of neighborhood. I'm like, dang, real like, this show can detail, you know?
Big: And it's called Lioness.
smoo: And then it was like Yeah, and then it was
Eric: Yeah
smoo: explaining how China really don't want to go to war. You know what I'm saying?
Eric: Thank you.
smoo: And how Russia, like they they like they called Russia like like you l like Russia, they will go to war, but they really don't don't nobody really wanna fuck with the United States, you know what I'm saying? And I was like, God damn, like this shit really is that serious.
Eric: Hey bro, did you see how it broke down with Iran? said, the guy, he was like the case officer, was like, yo, Iran, she was like, who has the most chance
smoo: Mm-hmm.
Eric: to kidnap this US senior case officer? And then he started saying, he said China, then not, that's when he said Russia, she was like, no, but then she was like, well, Iran, they like to, huh? They take the most risk and.
smoo: They take the most risks. They take the most risks. Mm-hmm.
Eric: What Iran power, what Iran strength was, they don't care about being seen as being strong to other countries. They care about being seen strong as within the Iran. And because that means that they can control the people in Iran, right? Like they know that they ain't the big dogs and everywhere else, but they're like to people in Iran, they just, want to make a mosque. They want to make an example out of the U.S. to show other
smoo: Yeah.
Eric: Iranians like, nigga, we them niggas, y'all stay in line. we ain't the ones to be fucked with. You know what I mean? I'm like, snap. Like, but then that explains, but go.
smoo: Yeah. They they they they explained they explain China playing a long game and they was
Eric: Mm-hmm.
smoo: like nigga Iran nigga they play the short game they don't give a fuck about no long term nigga
Eric: You
smoo: we going out to win today
Eric: They're to kidnap somebody today.
smoo: Yeah. Yeah, man. They don't give
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. They ain't got no patience.
Big: I'ma watch
Wills On The Tank: They just Hey, I'ma check it out. I'ma check it out too.
Big: that shit, bro. That shit sounds good as fuck. I gotta
smoo: a fuck. Hey, but look though. But look though. If you think about it like nigga,
Big: check that out.
smoo: that's what's going on right now.
Eric: Yeah, right now. That's like, wow.
Big: I wish I would have said that bitch was on Apple TV, bro.
smoo: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: I got paramount. I'm definit I might watch that about the episode tonight.
Big: I'ma I'ma I'ma get Paramount though.
2: Well.
Big: I'ma I'ma do the free trial.
smoo: Mega.
Big: I'm gonna watch all that shit and and one go.
smoo: See Apple TV, Apple TV
2: The the first
smoo: got some some dope shit too.
Wills On The Tank: I got a paramount for sure.
2: The first the first
Big: Silo. I just finished the silo,
2: season of Apple
Big: boy.
smoo: Yeah. But nah, but it's another show called Tarun. And Tarun is like the the war that's going on right now between between Iran and Israel. Like nigga, they have a show that's been talking about this shit for the last five or six years. before this war happened. Yeah,
Big: Damn.
smoo: bro. Yeah, bro.
Big: It's called Tarun.
smoo: Yeah, and so much so nigga, they they taught like they had to cancel the show once the damn war and shit started happening. Yeah, because
Wills On The Tank: snap.
Big: Damn.
smoo: that shit all that shit propaganda and shit like that.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
smoo: But yeah, nah man, y'all boys, y'all boys tripping,
Eric: exit down.
smoo: man. Two, I thought you had
Wills On The Tank: I might say that
smoo: seen the shit, bro. You I seen you had said something a group message about the shit. I was like, I was like, yeah, huh?
2: That's when I started. By bench I bench watched the first season in a week. It was on Apple T V but the second season second season on
smoo: Thank you on mute, bro.
2: Huh? talked about The second season
3 god: Yeah, I know, I know, I know.
2: on Paramount. I say yeah, I'm
smoo: Yeah.
2: gonna go I gotta watch that. Cause I be seeing people talk on the timeline too much.
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: I can't, I
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: can't, I can't I'm I'm with the beauty in black, man. So you know what I'm saying? That's a chick flick. That's one of the ones you you doing some work, you see your girl watching, and you get caught up on it, and that's what happened to the kid. So I'm on that, I'm finishing that up, but then I get to line up.
2: Ain't nothing wrong with that man. Hey man.
3 god: it's a lot wrong with it.
Wills On The Tank: I just got on I just got on
3 god: There's a lot wrong with
Wills On The Tank: Game of Thrones.
3 god: it. Niggas watching that, it's a lot wrong with it, trust me, bro. But it's a good show though. So but it is what it is.
smoo: Yeah, man. Hey man, I was watching I was watching Cassidy a couple days ago. I was watching him Freestyle. And Yeah, bro, and I was like, bro,
Wills On The Tank: Old videos. He was a dog.
smoo: like Cassidy really was like the first lyricist to like break
Wills On The Tank: And it was a dog. Yeah.
smoo: into the mainstream world. Can we all agree to that?
Wills On The Tank: Man, his style back then was just so different.
Big: Words later.
Wills On The Tank: three, he had like he was had he was doing four syllables at a time and on top of punch lines, like and he was he had a better rap style, yeah.
Big: You mean you mean battle rapper though? Okay, okay, okay.
smoo: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Life. Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: Man, he was different. He he really was different, you know. Cassidy, man, he he
Big: That nigga lines was hard. I remember, I remember, I remember we used to be wanting that nigga to go against Lil Wayne. Cause he used to be selling wolf tickets like that nigga don't wanna see me. Hey, but Cassie has some bars though. I ain't gonna lie, he had
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, he was different.
Big: some shit that like niggas weren't thinking about at the time.
smoo: That's what I'm saying, bro. It was like I feel like like he was bringing that battle rap to c the to the commercial world.
Wills On The Tank: To commercial, to the commercial, yeah.
Big: Thanks.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. Yeah, man.
Big: I agree.
smoo: And I feel like and I I think I even heard I think I even
Big: I agree.
smoo: heard I think I even heard a nigga say that Wayne start like taking his flow and shit like that. Y'all niggas heard that?
Big: But but you they they they they do say that. They they they they say
Wills On The Tank: I think I think Cassidy even said that. Cassidy said that Wade started
smoo: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: rapping like he did because of him.
Big: But now, now I I would say it's because of Gilly, but Gilly is from Philly. So I just think that's Philly's style of rapping. Wayne was like,
Wills On The Tank: Billy had a run too.
Big: Wayne was really like, you feel me? He was really still in their style.
smoo: Bro, y'all can't act like
Wills On The Tank: Look at Bill, look at Bill.
smoo: bro, y'all cannot act like wave flow did not change, bro. Y'all cannot act like it didn't change, bro.
Wills On The Tank: Get with the boy.
Big: And then we are fucking with the boy. That nigga, that nigga went, hey, he he hey, Gilly, Gilly got him with that shit. Gilly said you was wobbity-wobbity, dropping like it's hot. And then after I
Wills On The Tank: Hey, it did change. It did change. Yeah, it did change. I ain't gonna say hey look, I ain't gonna say Gilly. I ain't gonna say Gilly wrote him. Yeah, yeah.
Big: left, you went for fucking with the boy. Yeah. That nigga really stole that shit though.
Wills On The Tank: It g I ain't gonna say that Gilly was right for but his his style of rap did change. It
Big: He influenced them.
Wills On The Tank: it it did it did make it do make you think. it's 'cause man, that whole Philly style of rap, man, that them boys really i you really don't
Big: They got a good ass style of rap.
Wills On The Tank: they g they got a good style, man, and and they they k
Big: And you know what Wayne got? Wayne got a good style of I don't wanna say slurring words, but you know how New Orleans niggas pronunciate words and shit? So it just mesh very well. that New Orleans and Philly style, and Wayne perfected it. that shit is like golden. and think about it, that's a style you never heard before. A New Orleans nigga rapping a Philly nigga.
smoo: He from up north. He from up north.
3 god: Hey bruh.
2: Yeah.
3 god: Hey bruh. Say, I got a million. No, I ain't saying
Wills On The Tank: It ain't about who did it first, it's about who did it. okay.
3 god: that. My nigga say he got a million flows of h labor him the hardest nigga rapping in civilian clothes, nigga. Million
Eric: So, yeah, so, nigger.
3 god: flows, nigga. Come on, man. I can't hey bruh. We're not messing with the Wayne today.
Big: Still I like the I like the Philly Lil Wayne era. That was my era of Lil Wayne.
Wills On The Tank: No, I'm not I'm not saying
Big: Carter one, Carter two, and
3 god: Got a million flows, man.
Big: then the one right before the Carter one. I think it was lights out or something.
3 god: Built, tell them hoes, he got a million flows,
Eric: 500 degrees.
3 god: man. Label my nigga the hardest nigga in civilian clothes, man.
Big: five hundred degrees? Yeah.
2: even if you gonna
smoo: I may not.
2: say that point you
Big: I like that era, Wayne. I don't like nothing after that era. Carter Three is okay,
Wills On The Tank: What era?
Big: but Carter, Carter One, Carter Two, 500 degrees and lights out. That's my era, Lil Wayne. Like that's that's my era. It and and it and it so happens to be in the Gilly
Wills On The Tank: They lights out was when he was at his weakest.
Big: era.
Wills On The Tank: To me, Lysaw,
2: I thought
Wills On The Tank: he was at his weakest.
smoo: Hey, what you got too? What you got too?
2: I say even if you run with that point, Wayne got his flow from Philly, or it it fit back to the the Cassidy point. Cassidy, he's from Philly, authentic. but he didn't he didn't give you that no offense to them, but he didn't give you that dirty, Philly, grimy mother and we on the corner about the stick with a a pitchfork in your your real cage. He looked like he
Eric: you
2: the pretty boy Cassidy. Cassidy, no nigga. I said
Wills On The Tank: about Philly? you talking about gat Cassidy? No, and look, that's a good point.
Big: You talking about Gillioth Cassidy.
smoo: Hey let him let him finish this point. Keep going too.
2: I'm talking about I'll talk about Cassidy. So he was like the pretty
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
2: boy, you know what I'm saying? The ladies liked him, but he was still sitting that shit damn, we like to see the what what Bill say, we like to see that boy rip, you know what I'm saying? And
Wills On The Tank: Up and down that strip.
2: you know what I'm saying? But then if you give that to Wayne, Wayne, if he took it from him, he gave a southern f style to it. s
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
2: it just was it was you know what
Big: That swag. He has swag.
2: I'm saying? Instead of just rap, rap, hard rap And then we finna commit a drill before drill wrapping was a thing, you know what I'm saying? So that's why it's it's like more digestible.
Wills On The Tank: But see, they they they they tried to make Cassidy, they made him commercial, especially on his first album. When he came out with
Big: Facts.
Wills On The Tank: Hotel and what else he had, you know, they which is why when he came back the second time around,
Eric: I'm a hustle.
Wills On The Tank: when he came that's that was when he came back the second time around, and that's when he was acknowledging, like, you know, I wanna be more the hustler, you know. He w he was trying to go for more of that that That street that street side because two just said, he was more seen as the pretty boy, the ladies loved him. That's why they gave him the song with Kales. And he they was just basically trying to sell some records, basically, the first time around. And I'm not saying that, it that makes sense because man, sometimes, that hardcore stuff, sometimes it can work against you. So
Big: I miss that era of hip hop, William.
Wills On The Tank: man, man, I think I
3 god: me, me, me,
Wills On The Tank: Christopher Cat's been a he's been a great artist. I remember our cousin LeBaron used to listen to him a lot.
3 god: Question Question question. I I ain't gonna lie, I don't I don't ever remember Cassidy being a ladies' man. Like I
Wills On The Tank: Nah man,
Big: Well
Wills On The Tank: he girls girls just like him. So yeah. I remember a girl, I was dating she was like, Man, he's di
Big: that that that that that's what they like, take me to my hotel. Yeah, that that that was they were trying to push as.
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: I'm saying but time about talking about time about timeout time no I'm saying that don't give me a song a nigga talking about getting bitches or taking off like like like come on boy
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, I know what you're saying. But yeah, he he was seen like that though. He really was.
Big: But but that that's how they promoted him at first.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
3 god: Nah I'm I'm saying I'm not saying you're wrong but don't give me a song where you got Rick Ross talking about saying hotels and shit too bro like it ain't come on
Wills On The Tank: Hey, listen, if even if you go listen, if you
2: That's kinda like the LL route.
Wills On The Tank: go listen to Cassidy's first album, he had Wayne on his first album. Wayne was rapping different back then. Now Wayne always had that charisma of he that man, he he killed that verse, but he was not rapping the way that he rapped, you know, after after, you know what I'm saying? And then hold on, and I'm and I'm
Big: How he was at the Gilly left.
Wills On The Tank: not because Wayne is my boy. I'm not trying to say Gilly was right for him, because I don't know.
smoo: No. It's over with buddy.
Wills On The Tank: I'm not trying to say that. I'm
3 god: It been I've been I've
2: But you d condemned
Wills On The Tank: not trying to say that.
Big: I don't I don't think I
3 god: been
2: this your stains,
Big: don't think he was writing for him because Wayne
2: William.
3 god: I've been done with T Wheels and Built, man.
Big: always had nice punchline. Like even though you say he ain't like lights out, but when he say so
Wills On The Tank: Gotta squat up.
Big: many carrots, I threw all my wrists and then it started started snowing. Man, nah, that's them bars. It just vegetarian niggas had they already knowing. And then just started, started snowing, yeah.
Wills On The Tank: Start snowing. Okay, let's talk about this ice that I'm carrying. All these beds like I'm a fegetarian. Niggas play I buried them. I'll already knowin'. I threw on my own so we can start it, started snowing. Yeah, he he always had flow. He always had flow, especially squatter.
Big: But he just didn't have that flow. He had the bars, but I think Gilly made that nigga like he said, you was wabbit it, wabbit it, drop it like he like, hold on, slow it down and break it up. and that's what Wayne did.
Wills On The Tank: He probably helped him out a little bit. He probably did help him. And I'm not saying with bars. I'm not saying with writing. I'm not saying that. I'm not saying that. Let's get that straight.
Eric: Why is there such a big thing?
Big: I don't think he wrote for him, but I like but but but but that is technically he would get a writer's credit because if a nigga change your flow and if he tells you to say it like this instead of saying like that, that is a writer credit. That's like your teacher proofreading and editing your shit. That is that that's what writers, that's writers' credit.
Wills On The Tank: That's that's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. And I I do think and and also when Wayne, by the time Wayne had got the Carter, the Carter one, he was look, he was basically Wayne was basically a seasoned artist
smoo: That nigga dink so mad. That nigga dink, yeah.
3 god: That shit don't make no fucking sense, man. this shit waste of time.
Big: But
Wills On The Tank: by that point. do you see what I'm saying? The man had been
Big: Facts.
Wills On The Tank: rapping since he was 16. I'm talking about when we was introduced to him for real. He had already
Big: Thanks.
Wills On The Tank: been rapping since he was sixteen, fifteen years old. So it makes sense that, by the time he get to Carter Carter 121, man, when he got to Carter, when he got to the first Carter, people really started paying attention to Wayne. they was like, dang, this nigga really rapping now. You know what I'm saying? they they wasn't
Big: Cause now he had transferred over to the to the north. like Smooth said, he that nigga transitioned to the north. it was like, yeah, he was down south, but then when he started rapping like that, niggas up north start respecting him. That's what happened.
Wills On The Tank: He got more respect. He
smoo: There you go, there you go, there you go,
Wills On The Tank: definitely got more respect.
smoo: there you go.
Eric: Damn, damn, damn,
Wills On The Tank: He definitely got more respect.
Eric: damn. Tell these niggas, Puppa past the draw. I am such a big deal. I am so not alone. This baby is not even 3 million long. It don't mean shit. It's good like me. Stuntin' is happy. Yeah, boo.
3 god: I ain't such a busy, you can ask them they might even sing, leave me alone. But don't be scared. Why, Bill? Cause it doesn't like me. Stunned is a habit. Get it from my daddy.
Big: Now now we ain't saying
Wills On The Tank: When was that hold on hold on hold on? I'm glad y'all brought that up. And I when when was that though? When was that?
3 god: I'm a rude bastard. Man, get the fuck out. Hey, bro. Like, I I'm not gonna lie to you, bro. Like
Eric: I was a good player.
Big: Hey, hey, a answer Willie your question. Answer Willie your question. When was that?
3 god: Yes, I'll
Wills On The Tank: Where was
3 god: fall in and up. I'll fall
Wills On The Tank: when was that though?
3 god: in. If your bitch in heat, she can fuck
Eric: You're a jerk, you...
3 god: my dog. Hey Bill, Bill, you I went from penny pinches to private planes. I never sat on any benches. I got in game. Stunned or called the ball harder. You know what I'm saying? Well they say what tinker, pinhouse sweet, y'all order whatever y'all please, winecrackers and cheese. They take out their clothes and put on my tease.
Eric: private plays. What? got it game. Starter, Carter, Ball Harder. 10 piece sweet girl, ever y'all order.
Wills On The Tank: Lilane was twenty-six years old when he started rapping like that.
Big: But see, see, Willie Willie, I'ma say 24. I'ma say 24. Cause on that Carter One, that
Eric: Thank you.
Big: go DJ, that's when you really notice that shit. But I I know the squad's up was before then.
Wills On The Tank: Man, he yeah, he was different.
3 god: Hey bro, hey bro.
Big: But when that he say, Birdman, put them niggas in your trash can. Leave them outside, I'll be your trash. But that sounds like Gilly. The nigga even started looking like Gilly. You remember Wayne
Wills On The Tank: Leave on my side of your door. I you trash man. I said it lighting up the hash and writing up and look.
3 god: Bro, bro, bro, no. Hey there.
Eric: good.
Big: used to do this shit right here? That right there? That's fucking gilly. That nigga used to do like this.
3 god: Hey, hey, hey
Wills On The Tank: Gilly was in the
3 god: no, hello.
Wills On The Tank: Gilly was in the video sitting next to him on that s on
3 god: Time out time out time out time out time out time out time out time out. Hey,
Big: That's gilly, bro.
3 god: time out, time out, time out. See, this this that shit I be fucking talking about, bro. This that shit I be talking about with the booster shit, hating, all this extra dumb shit people be fucking talking about. Yes, niggas do have influences. You be around people. It
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, no, and no and I and there's nothing wrong with it.
Big: no, ain't nothing wrong with it, Ding, we just saying.
3 god: let me finish. Let me finish. Let me finish. But the sale nigg, I do from hanging around smooth. Sometimes I I I say points the way Smooth would say a point because we done argued so much. Me and that nigga built then then traded flows of Wayne just from just from being around each other. Me and two playing two K. We done playing 2K together, play each other. You end up playing like the duck's next person. However, you
smoo: Okay, with you.
3 god: want to say the shit. I'm just saying though, so what I'm saying is to say.
Big: We get you, we get you, Dink. But my issue is
3 god: No, hold on. My issue, you're talking right now. Hold on, nigga. I'm saying.
Eric: you
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: Bro, y'all talking
2: Yeah.
3 god: about niggas writing for niggas cause of some influence. Nigga, nigga, you can't say somebody wrote for
Wills On The Tank: I didn't say that. I didn't say that now. I'm not going that far.
3 god: somebody because you have some type of influence. Nigga,
Eric: grateful. This is great.
3 god: I'm sure P Diddy ain't nothing like Suge Knight, but I'm sure he took some methods that Sug Knight legal ones that he did. Like niggas, niggas,
smoo: Illegal too.
3 god: y'all shit. Niggas, come on, bro. What like, bro? Shit.
Wills On The Tank: Hang the niggas off the balcony, so they say
2: Really honest.
smoo: Hey hey both of them I ain't both for them niggas
Big: But but Dink Deep But D but Dink if we going out technic if we going out technicality,
smoo: in jail.
3 god: what the fuck? And you talking about something about rifle boat shit happens.
Wills On The Tank: I
Big: Dean, if we going out technicality, my issue with it is Wayne never gave Gilly the credit that he should have gave him. That's what I'm saying.
Wills On The Tank: Technically he's not supposed to. Hello
3 god: Where's the
Wills On The Tank: hello hello. Technically he's not supposed to though if he's a ghost writer. And I'm not saying that he rot wrote for him, but you know what I'm saying?
3 god: okay, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. I ain't studying that shit either. Cool. Where's the evidence? He's been saying making this claim for years. Where is the fucking evidence?
Big: We gave you plenty evidence.
3 god: Where?
Wills On The Tank: man spot flow and they must like that. They like it so much. They say I write that. Hey, but look, I I think I think it was some influence, but I'm not saying he I'm not going that far and say he wrote for the man. I'm not doing that.
3 god: Come on, bro. Come on, bro. Where's the fucking proof? Give me something. Hey. No, no, no, no, no, no. T Will, T Will. I let T Will.
Big: And Willie Willieo, I'ma go as far as to say Gilly told that nigga, man,
3 god: Hold up. T Will. T Will. I let.
Big: you should say it like this, bro.
Wills On The Tank: that's fair i because i think that happens when you when you
Big: Going that far.
Wills On The Tank: be in it when you be in the industry it makes sense
3 god: Nigga, that's not a writer's credit.
Wills On The Tank: now to me it makes sense where if you in the industry especially when you becoming a seasoned artist people seeing you it's to me it makes sense why they would bring a fresh person around and be like okay switch it up a little bit so you can be more fresh to the people because people would they could they quit to say so yeah
Big: Miss that era hip hop. That's not necessarily ghostwriting. We're not saying he ghostwriting,
smoo: But I think I think that's
Big: we're just saying influence.
smoo: I think
3 god: T Wheels.
smoo: but listen though, I'ma say that I'ma say this though. I and I think I think niggas don't niggas don't want to admit it. It's just it's just the the the the
Big: Big man.
smoo: curtain the curtain being pulled and you seeing behind the scenes. But
Wills On The Tank: Right.
smoo: but I mean shit man, Drake wrote for for Lil Wayne. And I'm pretty sure Wayne with Drake
Wills On The Tank: Right, right, right.
smoo: Drake sounded like Wayne a lot when he first came out, too. man.
Big: on ransom and stuff, I ain't gonna say he wrote
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Big: his shit, but he I you can hear the influence.
smoo: But but but still though to that point though to that point though I think a lot of these niggas and rope for each other. I think they and but I think it's us as the
Wills On The Tank: That's what it I think so too. I think so too.
smoo: fans as the fans you don't want to believe it and as an artist
Wills On The Tank: Right, right.
smoo: coming up just say for instance me or Wilio we probably wouldn't never let nobody man hell no we ain't let nobody write our raps nigga that's why you not there you it it's a collaboration like you get to that point
Wills On The Tank: Right, right, right, right.
Big: Thanks.
smoo: And a nigga just be
Big: Thanks.
smoo: like, hey, bro, no,
Wills On The Tank: Right.
smoo: nah, bro. I could do this better than you. Or you could do that better
Big: That's a fact.
smoo: than me. But when you on the outside looking in, you just like, hell nah, man. we don't want to accept
Wills On The Tank: Right, right.
smoo: it. But I truly do believe. And Wayne was 13, 14 when Gilly was around. Right? Ain't that the truth?
Wills On The Tank: He b he f basically a a young he was basically a young adult, basically, still fr fresh out of he fresh out of his teens.
smoo: So why so why is it hard to believe? Why
Big: nineteen. I think he was nineteen, twenty one.
Wills On The Tank: Fresh out of his teens. So, Gilly Gilly was probably a hip more hip
smoo: I just don't think it I just don't think it's that hard to believe.
Big: And and he was coming from
Wills On The Tank: I and I d I believe I don't yeah.
Big: and he was coming away from juvenile BG, so he didn't have their influence anymore.
Wills On The Tank: Right, right, right, right. And I and it to me it I think Gilly I do believe Gilly was a little more hip to some things than Wayne was at the time too, being
Big: Right.
Wills On The Tank: at cash money. Now again, I'm not going as far I'm not going that far to say that he was writing for the man. But if
3 god: That broke.
Wills On The Tank: you if you go back and study them styles that Philly style, it do they do sound similar and it's like it's fair to think that, that they may have had some influence. And I'm not saying Wayne could have not gave him some stuff either.
3 god: Bro, bro, bro. That's all I'm saying though, bro. This is my point, bro. That's all I'm saying, bro. Everybody got influence. Lil Wayne was influenced with Joel Santana. Them niggas was hold on, let me
smoo: That's true.
Wills On The Tank: For show for show.
Big: Facts.
3 god: finish. I don't need no agreements. I don't need no 100. You're right. I'm just going based off this point here, bro. Niggas influence everybody. Only one person that Wayne has been with, because I'm with now I am with Schmoove. I'm not saying that niggas don't now. I I'm with Schmoove 100%. I believe somebody to help some shit. T Will we d helped you out with a song before? man, hey T Will, you might want to just I'm not even you see what I'm saying? So I'm not I'm like we hey we'll we'll we will tell T Will hey hey
smoo: Willy y'all got ghostwriters!
Eric: This is the of the world. Holy no, God, it goes right in.
Wills On The Tank: Never look now look
Eric: This is the of the world.
Wills On The Tank: hold on
smoo: And this
3 god: Hey, hey, look at look look look at look at look at look at look at y'all didn't know I wrote cash flow? Y'all didn't know I wrote cash flow? Y'all didn't know I wrote cash flow?
smoo: man ain't no great
Wills On The Tank: That ain't no different Hold on listen no listen listen Listen hold on let me get this off let me get this off hold on we done letting this go hold on now
Eric: no! wow! This is crazy! I can't believe this, Will you?
Wills On The Tank: Hey look look that ain't no different from that ain't no different
3 god: Hello, hold up, smooth, smooth,
Wills On The Tank: from Smooth being like
Eric: WOOOOAHHHH
3 god: smooth, I wrote cast low
Wills On The Tank: Smooth. Smooth the told me so and look, Smooth the told me so many times, he'd be like, That's your pocket right there. You know what I'm saying? So look, that ain't yeah.
3 god: But that's T Wheel, that's what I'm saying though, cause it's been plenty it's been plenty of times somebody new built too, whatever be like, Hey bro, you you you
Wills On The Tank: Nah, and that's a fact!
3 god: you too smart, simple simplify your course, right? But we didn't write that bitch. You see what I'm We'd be like, bro, just you you don't have to
Wills On The Tank: Or or I remember time, look, I I'm gonna give you a point. I remember a time you was listening to my one of my old mixtape cash flow and you was like, man, you gotta say, you gotta come like this with a little more feeling and stuff like this. So that so that did
3 god: But energy,
Wills On The Tank: tell that did make me like because I was getting cause you was l actively listening, that did make me go in the studio the next time and be like, okay, now I'm a I'm a cause I got an outside opinion. You know what I'm saying? So yeah.
Big: Fants, thanks.
Wills On The Tank: That that stuff, that that those are all things just like I told y'all before, my bad, big, I just gotta say this. Just like I told y'all before, when we was younger, Bip used to tell me like if something was hot or if it wasn't. And so like I could credit, I could technically credit credit him as a ghostwriter because I would go to Bip and he'd be like, Man, that's garbage. Or he'll be like, That's that's dope, you know what I'm saying? That's tight. Or he'll he'll tell me some pointers and stuff like that, and then I'll kind of you know go back and rework it. So technically he was a ghostwriter because I could've he he you know what I'm saying? So it makes sense. No, but but he I could he he would have deserved credit, is what I'm saying.
3 god: No, he's not technically a ghost router. Just like no T Wheel, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, T Wheel. This is why this is this is what this is. I'm honestly, and I ain't trying to drop no mic. Y'all say if I'm wrong or right, I don't give a fuck. Basically, what Gilly did, what y'all talking about. I'm not saying what Gilly did. We weren't there, but I'm just saying ain't no proof
Wills On The Tank: Right.
3 god: of it. Basically, Bip ain't no barber. He ain't no barber by a script. Well, he was. Well.
Wills On The Tank: Ha ha.
3 god: Maybe a bad is I forgot that I forgot that nigga tried that shit. I forgot he tried
smoo: I
3 god: that shit. I forgot. I forgot!
2: They'll say where I come from.
3 god: I forgot he never mind. Never mind. That nigga Gilly
Big: Yeah, boy, shut out.
3 god: wrote.
smoo: man, that's funny, man.
Big: And hey, look, look, I just
3 god: Huh.
Big: want to end it off with I missed that era of hip hop.
3 god: Dude.
Big: That's what I call artist development. And that's what we don't have anymore.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
smoo: Well, well since we since we talking about those artists in in that era, I think I think it's like we in a period where we don't have
Eric: you
smoo: a middle class rapper. You know what I'm saying? It's like you either it seems like to me it's like, you know, that era has died. Like now nowadays it's like you either the superstar or you got a cult following. You know what I'm saying? And I think
Wills On The Tank: Mm.
smoo: that's crazy, like how the the the the Jada Kisses, the Lloyd Banks, the Jewel Santana's, those niggas
Big: I get what you're saying.
smoo: It's like our our middle class, the meat meal, the big
Wills On The Tank: I never thought of it that way. I never thought of it that way. Yeah.
smoo: sons, like all that shit is gone. You know what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
smoo: And it's like can you have can you have that type of
Big: You think so? No, no, but go ahead, go ahead, Smooth.
smoo: can you have that type of career at this point in this in in this day and age?
Wills On The Tank: Mm, that's a that's a like Larry June. Yeah. C currency.
Big: The closest I would say is Larry June. what's the nigga with the face?
3 god: Okay.
smoo: But that's what I'm saying though.
2: No
Big: No, no, the nigga with the face.
2: no
3 god: I gotta let each other talk, boy.
Big: what's his name? Conway. Conway and
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
Big: Benny the Butcher. They they never That's what I think.
Wills On The Tank: Y'all wouldn't say that middle class or y'all say you say
smoo: Ooh, ooh. Hey, let my
Wills On The Tank: I think
smoo: boy two get it. Let my boy two get it.
2: Nah bro, them boys are not middle class. I love I used to love
Wills On The Tank: You don't think so?
2: I was waiting for being the butcher to drop, bro. But nah, it just it's a void. 'Cause you gotta think about even the ones that was on a new wave that wave right before the women took over, the little baby, well I ain't gonna say little baby. EST G, forty two dub, People people that tier when it was kinda like a middle tier rapper, but they
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
2: hung with the the A-list rappers, you what I'm saying? And they sound good with the A-list rappers. But it's it's like that is has diminished. The A like the top class, we can't even define really the top class. We just go back to the guys of the golden ages as the top class. So I don't think we put baby and them boys in the middle. I think the last one we probably still kinda got is G Erbo. But I don't think that is
Big: G Hurt that that's a good one.
2: But I'm not even sure we just could clearly find it 'cause stand alone. But he still he he'll still drop something like Milton J or something like that. For us like I think 'cause y'all don't think they like A-list rapper, right? So it's more
Wills On The Tank: Right.
Big: Hell now.
2: like call them top tier underground. And I dare fan
Big: You don't think they middle class though?
2: though. I don't I mean, we are a big fan, so it's like, damn, they still give you that feel is like
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
2: Man, I fucked you, but it's not that. So it's it's hard
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
2: to say middle class. It's like that common ground ain't there no more. See the okay. Major underground, yeah, yeah.
Wills On The Tank: I call major underground, yeah. That's what I call it, yeah.
smoo: What you got built? What
Eric: Maybe that's...
Big: Okay, okay.
2: But just think
smoo: you what you got built? What you got built?
Eric: I was gonna say, maybe man, because the game has changed, we gotta update our standards too. maybe that is considered middle, middle class now. the court following type deals. I don't think that these guys are just I just saw Larry Jones smoother than 1991, which is arguably his best song. It just went gold, It just went gold.
Big: That that's a major accomplishment.
Eric: a major accomplishment for him. as far as, you I think that that's for him, that's for us, I think is middle-class, you know what mean? Compared to the people who like the futures are the top right now, which is he a golden age artist, like you said too. So, I know. I think we got to update our standards. That's all.
Big: I thought we got a lot of though. But I'm gonna let you go, Dean.
Eric: Mm-hmm.
3 god: before you even got your point, damn, but we always dis I disagree with all I can't trying to remember what I'm I don't know what to fact. Cause all y'all cause all you motherfuckers wrong, nigga. Self sell for my
smoo: Nigga, y you disagree with everybody.
Wills On The Tank: Every time.
2: I got I niggas.
3 god: sell for my dog too. Self for my dog too, but nah,
Wills On The Tank: Every time.
3 god: I just I just think I don't think it's I don't I'm with Smooth. I don't think it's no well, he makes his point, but as far as like where the Question came from. I don't think it's no middle class rappers. I don't believe so. I believe if you ask, if if we consider Jada Kiss fabulous, them boys as the middle class, I don't think J Larry Jones would be a fabulous back in the day. Like
Wills On The Tank: hate now.
3 god: that's what I'm saying. So even if
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: you wasn't a hip-hop like head, like like say, like, say let's let's go for basketball sports. Like, if you want to Sports fan niggas knew who J.R. Smith was. yo you know, somebody that wasn't into basketball kind of knew who J.R. Smith
Big: Yeah, the question.
3 god: was. And that was like the fabulous, if you want to say. He probably bigger than J.R., but that was the fact. Like if I believe our parents knew who Fabulous was, like, depending on what part of the area you was. And I don't think you have that now. I don't think you can ask an older head be like, hey, you Larry Jones? I don't think you know that. I just don't think
smoo: Great port.
Wills On The Tank: I don't
3 god: so.
Wills On The Tank: know about that, but yeah.
Big: But now, but
Eric: Yes.
Big: now now okay, so so so everybody naming middle class artists from the north. Who are the middle class people from the West Coast and from the from down south? Or from the Midwest?
Eric: That nigga named Ash, that ain't gonna stay in the middle class with that name.
3 god: I thought that nigga
smoo: Well that's what I'm saying. I think I think when you talk about
3 god: was I thought that nigga was on snap.
Wills On The Tank: A Z types.
Big: Well, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm I'm talking about back in the day, cause everybody's saying, everybody's
Eric: Thank
Big: saying Jada Kiss, Lloyd
smoo: Yeah, yeah, those those are just examples. But I think like I said, when you talk about the big suns, when you talk about Wale, when you talk about Meat Meal, you talk about
Wills On The Tank: I get what you're saying,
Big: Those are your middle
Wills On The Tank: that makes sense.
Big: class.
Wills On The Tank: That's yeah, that makes sense. That makes
smoo: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: sense. Yeah.
Big: Okay, but but but
2: That's
Big: you would you say currency
2: it.
Big: is a middle class? Wiz Khalifa middle
smoo: No.
Big: class?
Wills On The Tank: I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't say they bottom tier either though, but I mean
smoo: Wiz Khalifa, yes. Wiz Khalifa, yes. Yes, the Wiz
2: Where's Whiz yes?
smoo: Khalifa, yes. But that's what I'm saying though. where's the Wiz Khalifa's? You know what I'm saying?
3 god: see, even
2: in like in that aspect. Right. I J
3 god: Wh what
Big: Larry June is your
2: I J
Wills On The Tank: Hey but
Big: Wiz Khalifa.
smoo: Man, motherfuck, man, y'all niggas gotta stop, man.
3 god: fuck no. Fuck no. Y'all
Wills On The Tank: hey hold on now.
Big: Yes, he is,
3 god: trippin'. Hey man.
Big: bro. Larry
Wills On The Tank: Wiz we was a superstar
Big: June, Larry June, I'm gonna give you this. Larry June
Wills On The Tank: at one time.
Big: is your mix between Wiz Khalifa and Dom Kennedy. He is the perfect middle child for those two.
3 god: Man, get the fuck out of here though. Fuck out of here, bro.
Wills On The Tank: Wiz was as super s as as as mainstream
2: You just boy you just killed your point with with that.
Wills On The Tank: as it gets as one time at one time. Wiz was
Big: But but what
3 god: Man, fuck
smoo: All right.
3 god: out of here, bro.
Big: y'all saying is, y'all saying some some a person that everybody knows or just a middle cause I was gonna say like people like look
smoo: All right, so this what a middle class to me means. Like y'all saying Larry June, y'all saying currency, but like to me, a middle class
Wills On The Tank: Valley
smoo: is somebody who could first and foremost get features. Like
3 god: Fix.
smoo: niggas ain't asking Larry June for no fucking feature. They ain't asking bro. We talk
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah. I agree with that.
Big: But he got major features.
Eric: What? Are you crazy?
smoo: we but we talk about mainstream artists. What mainstream artists is asking
3 god: Let him let him finish. Let him finish.
smoo: for a Larry June feature?
Wills On The Tank: Two chains was like in that middle class at one time. That that's I think two chains was that, yeah.
Big: Two chains. But he got two chains features. He got Janae Aiko,
smoo: Two change. Yeah, that's a good one. That's a good one.
3 god: Hey, hey, hey,
Big: Dej Loaf.
3 god: let the points get off. Let the points get off.
smoo: No, no, hell no. You talking about you talking about niggas coming to Larry June album. Nigga, what album is what album is Larry June going to?
Big: okay, you're talking about on their album. Okay, okay. I got you, I got your middle ground. I got your middle.
2: Bro, I think like a good analysis Hold let me let me get this point out real quick there. I think like back then it was like man I JV could damn near beat y'all varsity. You know what I'm saying? But nowadays it's like the the middle class that it ain't really no beat team. We just got rolled to 18. Shit Hope y'all boys can play for the A teams, you know what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: Mm, that's a good point.
Big: I'ma tell you, I'ma tell you, I'ma tell
smoo: Rude before.
Big: you. Okay. So,
Wills On The Tank: That's a good point.
Big: so so niggas like that, LOE Shimmy, Rod 49, the nigga from from Memphis, but West Arkansas, Memphis. What's the nigga name? got your bitch blood, got yo bitch. What's his name? YTB
2: Wha why say be fair? Why tell fair?
Eric: Money bag you on.
Big: Fat. YTB Fat Lil Brother. Moneybag, yo, them niggas is little artists,
smoo: Money bad yo. Money bad yo. Money bad yo is the first money bad yo.
Big: like.
smoo: I was
3 god: But I I don't even consider Mel in a bag yo no more. 'Cause he kinda he didn't kinda
Wills On The Tank: yeah, yeah.
smoo: I think he probably the best example.
Big: But but but but I I would say those ones under there.
3 god: That's probably your closest. Hey, but to get to get to your point though, Darren, it we did have a lot of southern a lot of southern middle class too. So we weren't not even just fabulous. you had people like Young Dre at one point in time. let's say
Wills On The Tank: Yeah,
Big: Okay, okay,
Wills On The Tank: yeah.
Big: that that's what I need. I need an example of like, okay.
smoo: Who who
3 god: All
smoo: you said, Bill? Who you said?
Wills On The Tank: Them hey, them
3 god: right.
Wills On The Tank: bulls is almost major underground.
Big: Young Dro.
Eric: All while.
smoo: No, hold on, hold on. What'd say built built?
Eric: All while. Slumped up.
2: Yeah. Mike Jones.
smoo: Mike Jones, Mike Jones. Mike Jones.
Eric: My job.
Big: Mike Jones.
Wills On The Tank: No, Mike Jones went big one time. Now he went all the way.
3 god: What did you eat
Eric: Auditor.
3 god: twins from?
Eric: Elena.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, Lana.
Eric: Bun B. Hell, you got it.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah,
smoo: Yeah, probably. Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: Bumby. Yeah.
Big: Bombi Pimpsy, yeah, you
Wills On The Tank: Underground Kings.
Eric: VMware.
Wills On The Tank: Hey, they name said it all. Underground Kings. They was like the middle, they was middle class.
3 god: Hey, you you hey, you could say I don't think he get as much credit.
Big: What about sexy red? What y'all what y'all consider sexy red?
Wills On The Tank: She was mainstreaming one time, I would say.
3 god: I I won't get you I want
Big: Yeah, I say mainstream or middle class. Well I'm I wanna see what smooth thing.
smoo: mean she she but but that that's but middle class is mainstream it's just about but that's what I'm saying though
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
smoo: I ain't really get to finish the definition to me a middle class rapper is somebody that the ace like two said you can still you can still sub that that B person in Big Sun he
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: still can go be featured on somebody big album you know what I'm saying meet meal he done did this like
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Like a Kaya.
smoo: yeah like you they still could they still could fuck with the the a artist And at the same time, they they still doing five to ten thousand
Big: Yeah.
smoo: tickets, you know what I'm saying? Like we ain't talking
Big: Be honest, be honest.
smoo: about we ain't talking about a niggas doing 20 like Larry June and currency, them niggas doing fucking a thousand to twenty five hundred tickets, but we we talking about niggas doing five to ten thousand tickets. That's a little bit of both what they
Big: I get what you're saying now.
smoo: yeah, and then you talk about you
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
3 god: like
smoo: talking about niggas who own billboard consistently, like them niggas was doing doing shit consistently.
Big: It would have to be money bag, yo.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: I think Moneybag Yo is the perfect example for this for this
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: right now.
Eric: What would y'all put down in
3 god: Yeah, but he so he
Eric: tolerance?
Big: But then but Don Tolliver damn near
smoo: Don Tolliver, yeah. I think Don Tolliver f yeah, but is he a rapper though?
2: Mm.
Big: No, well he a R yeah, he's like an RB. But but but if you say Don
3 god: But then he
Big: Tolliver you have to say Rod Wave.
3 god: Boy fuck no boy. Boy fuck no. Fuck no. Fuck no.
smoo: Yeah, I agree with that. I agree with that.
Big: That they do the same numbers. What you mean?
2: Ri white was the ones.
Big: What what you mean? You think Ryan Wave is a superstar?
3 god: No.
2: He said Raw Way to
3 god: Rock
2: start.
3 god: Ra wave is a start, bro.
smoo: mean I agree but I don't agree.
3 god: No. It it it no time, T
Big: I'm like I'm like I think he more
3 god: Wheels. Talk my T Wheels, cause I knew niggas was gonna say Rod Wave. Rod Wave is one of the top selling artists right now, bro. he now he sold n he just sold
Big: He is.
3 god: ninety nine. He just sold ninety nine his first week. Now
smoo: So that ninety
Big: I thought of one thirty three.
smoo: nine mean he not in the top. He not in the top.
Eric: you vote.
3 god: No, no, listen. He sold no no listen. He sold 99 with no with low ball features, bro. He do all this shit is just him.
smoo: Bro, ding, ding, but that's that's middle class, bro.
3 god: No, but how's that middle class?
Wills On The Tank: I'm gonna tell ya who's in the weird spot. To me, YB is the most weirdest place.
smoo: Young score two hoodie.
3 god: if we compare Drakes and shit and stit like that then of course. But but nigga devil don't no no no. You got to look
Big: Cause YB is a nigga that go plant them and only do 13,000 first week.
Wills On The Tank: He his his stature is so confusing to me.
3 god: at Raw Wave numbers. His gold sales. N Larry Jones and them ain't doing that. Yup money up.
Big: I think Rod Wave is,
smoo: Yeah, I'm not I'm not arguing later.
Big: he's a superstar for this era. But how how smooth was saying.
3 god: That's what I'm saying. he no, no, no, hold on, Derek. Let me finish on that. What I'm saying with Rod Wave is for what he does, he is a superstar within like he's not like, okay, for instance, for this generation, he would be I don't want to say like the Waynes or nothing like that, but he would have been No, he would well
Big: a future. a future.
Wills On The Tank: hey no, don't go that far.
3 god: We ain't saying he is good, Dwayne, but he is in that he he's the top tier. It was at one point, Look Baby, Rod Wave, no well, Rod Wave was getting there, but now look baby done dropped. It was them, it was
Big: That's true. Ghana.
3 god: Polo G and Lil Dirt. Now that them niggas
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. Gunner gun I think gunner's a good one person to name.
Big: And gone.
3 god: now that them niggas done dropped.
smoo: Gonna. That's another good one. That's a good one. That's a good one.
Wills On The Tank: That's a good one. That's a good one.
Big: That's what we forgot.
3 god: Now now that them niggas is gone, who you think the number one sellers out of that that generation are? Why what?
Big: Raw Wave is the number
smoo: Gonna
Big: one seller out of this generation for sure. Cause a Boss Man D Lo or they can't they can't do a hundred. They can't do a hundred.
Wills On The Tank: Now he's middle class. He's middle class, yeah.
3 god: So I'm saying, who, who, who, who doing raw wave numbers right now? Hey, Bip, you seen that list I sent you right? Bip, you seen that list?
Big: Nobody. You right about that, Dean. Dean, that that's one point you do got.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: Uh-huh.
Big: Nobody is doing
Eric: Uh-huh.
Big: rod wave numbers.
3 god: You seen that list I sent you, Bill?
Eric: Are you still into music?
3 god: Nah, that list where he had all the the the six-time platinum songs and all that shit. Bro, niggas ain't doing that. Niggas ain't doing it.
Eric: yeah, yeah,
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. I saw that. Yeah. I saw that. I did see that.
2: It lists fire now.
Big: Ra wave,
Eric: That is it.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Big: you know what raw wave is in a pocket like Kevin Gates was. then hot Isla went platinum and it's like nigga wasn't really like
smoo: No. Well, you know
3 god: No, he passed
smoo: what?
3 god: it.
smoo: Hey, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. When he brought up that Isola, he has a very, very bad valid point. Because I don't think a lot of people know that that album is like three, four times platinum.
Wills On The Tank: Korea?
Big: And that nigga ain't have no promotion.
smoo: I don't think a lot of I don't think a lot of people know that shit.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, I didn't I didn't know that. Talking about Kevin Gates?
Eric: Who?
Big: He's a good middle class artist, but he ain't gonna get them features like that, but
3 god: Yeah.
2: Yeah. Is that that COVID era, right?
smoo: Yeah, yeah, yeah. What'd you say? What'd you say too?
Wills On The Tank: Hey Kevin Kevin Gates was on fire at one time.
2: Is that that cover there?
smoo: Yeah, it is. That album right there is crazy though, dawg. That album is crazy, bro. For real, for real.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. Hey that
Big: It's good.
Wills On The Tank: look a that look a proxy too. People may and him.
Big: It just like Rod Wave is in the same cause if you're not in that world
smoo: No, I think Rod Wave Rod Wave definitely bigger than Gates, but Gates got a he Gates got a weird career. He got a really weird career.
Big: But that's how Ry Wave careers. Rod Wave, I feel like he's bigger because he's
Wills On The Tank: I feel like Y B got a weird career too.
Big: like, he got to the social media era, but Kevin Gates was right before. He was like future
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Big: era, but he still, it's like, damn. It's like Rod Wave, it's like this nigga do, he dupe numbers. He sell 100,000, but it's like, how the fuck do you do that? Cause it's like he not publicized. You have to know. You have to be in the knowing. It's like one of those
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, it's time.
Big: occult fan bases.
smoo: That that's true too, because it ain't like you just finna hop in a radio or hop on a playlist and ride wave shit just just everywhere. You know what I'm saying?
Big: What I'm saying.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now I don't hear I don't really
2: I don't boy at that boy That boy right hey that
3 god: Is that yeah, are y'all tripping?
Big: Then that's cause
2: boy Raw Way
Big: you listen the right way and they advertise that to you. That that they that's how their algorithm works.
3 god: No nigga, I'm talking about this nigga. Have y'all not seen this nigga concert numbers? This nigga this shit is crazy. what the fuck are you talking about?
2: No, route.
Wills On The Tank: But see, what's so crazy? Hold on, let me just say this. what's so crazy? I don't come across,
smoo: But Jay's doing the same concerts too.
Wills On The Tank: I don't come across why right wave like in my algorithm, but for some reason, just going but just go
Big: That's what I'm saying.
Wills On The Tank: hold on, but going back to Tyler the Creator. Why does he end up in front of everybody the way that he does? And he's like, to me, he's like
smoo: That's nigga William.
Wills On The Tank: Get it because I just don't get it. And hold on, another person who's really weird to me, not not personality-wise, but his career. Why be? It's like he's the biggest thing, but he's not at the same time. It's like I I can't, I don't know where to put him. I don't know where to put him.
Big: Facts. It's like like that's so weird to me. Daw would dog would have t
smoo: Yeah, I feel you on that. Well, but that goes back that
Big: fifty fifty platinum albums.
smoo: but that kinda goes back to how y'all feel about Larry June. we in an era where everybody can every artist or the numbers are tailored for their artists. So yeah, Ra Wave, he got sixty thousand plaques. YB got sixty thousand plaques. But like we in an era where like if that's your favorite artist, You could play that shit over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over. We ain't got another
Big: And and look, and and all us ain't gotta never hear that she and that shit is still go platinum.
Wills On The Tank: Man, that's and that's so crazy. Bruh, that's crazy.
smoo: hit. That's what I'm saying. So it's like, it's like, yeah, you talking about the plaques, but it's like, dog, nigga, my little cousin Jaheen, nigga, he playing at YB a thousand times. That's that's that
Wills On The Tank: Ha ha ha.
smoo: nigga got 10 plaques out of him.
2: When niggas said she went playing
Wills On The Tank: Me and bubble in this bubble could catch it with your wall. Hey.
2: with them at the crib, they really mean it.
smoo: Real shit. All
Big: That's crazy. That's how he do it though.
smoo: right, but we gotta move on though, man. We gotta move on, man. I know y'all boys I think one of y'all had mentioned a while back about like Nike losing his edge. But y'all know that Nike stock dropped 80%?
Wills On The Tank: Dang.
Eric: Yes.
Big: Since when, bro?
smoo: Nigga, since yesterday.
2: I dang, I ain't knew it dropped 80.
Big: Hold on, hold on. Why did it drop 80%?
Wills On The Tank: That's what I was just like, what happened?
smoo: Well shit, I'm I'm trying to trying to hear from the sneaker heads. Trying to hear from the sneakerheads. Dink Dinkin got off.
Eric: Yeah.
2: I only
Wills On The Tank: I think
2: polite.
Wills On The Tank: something I think something going on with his computer.
Big: Damn
2: On thing I said, I said
Big: 80%?
Wills On The Tank: Let me ask that man asked chat, hold on, man. That's wild. That's wild.
smoo: The AD
Big: Bro, that's a fucking steal. Hell, nah, bro, I gotta figure that out. Hold on.
smoo: Eighty percent. Hold on, let me
Eric: This is what chat says, it says, if you're asking why Nike stock, which is the ticker NKE, has fallen so much, it's not one single event. Nike is going through a pretty serious turnaround crisis. The biggest issue, number one, right now is China is hurting
3 god: Yo, yo you see a photo?
Eric: badly.
smoo: Where you went? Hold on, Bill.
Eric: Yep. This is interesting.
smoo: Ding!
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: Nigga, where you at?
Wills On The Tank: Team
smoo: A hot way to think,
Eric: Damn, bruh.
Wills On The Tank: That's crazy, man.
Eric: They stock, let's see, they stock had got to a space of, wait, that was one day ago. So let's see, over these six months, six months. They stock was trading at 57 six months ago. Let's do a year.
Big: Man, I gotta buy some of that. Cause that's crazy. I did not know that.
Wills On The Tank: I was just gonna say this might be the
Eric: I don't
Wills On The Tank: best ti this might be the best time to buy some
Eric: think Nike is going to continue to go down because for one, if you even
smoo: Hold on, Bip, hold on, Bip, hold your point, hold your point. See if this nigga Dink finna get back on. Y'all boys ain't gonna wanna go through them points again.
Eric: Yeah. Jarell. Remember, my last used to call that nigga Drew.
2: Mm-hmm.
smoo: What does she say, bro?
Eric: Ja-woo!
2: Bob Ben Simmons.
smoo: niggas got the s talking about how trash Rod Wave is and he the
2: Mm-hmm.
Wills On The Tank: Nigga got offended and said, Man, I'm off.
2: Fucking nigga.
Wills On The Tank: my goodness. They get paid so much right away his
smoo: Man, how the fuck you the IT man, bro?
Wills On The Tank: Sister went sad. It got the most problems.
smoo: What it's saying, Dink? It just didn't God damn man. I'm sitting if I should work in bro like with masses.
Wills On The Tank: Clear the cookies, man. Clear the cookies.
smoo: You on Google Chrome or Microsoft Edge? I be using Microsoft Edge now. You on you on mute there.
Big: My Microsoft is, yeah, they say it's a Chromium browser now, so yeah.
smoo: Yeah, I use I use Microsoft Edge.
Big: Chrome do be fucking up sometime, bro.
smoo: I bet. Nigga, you ain't in. Nigga, I just added you. there we go.
Wills On The Tank: There you go.
Big: You got an N A B your web camera, brother.
smoo: Can't add can't add in
Wills On The Tank: Me and Bobo and his mother could clutch and watch it.
smoo: All right, Bill, you got it, Bill.
Eric: What's the topic again? A Nike stock drop?
Wills On The Tank: Why stop
Big: The Nike stock dropped eighty percent.
Wills On The Tank: dropped so much? Yeah.
2: C T
Eric: Nah, all right.
2: E.
Eric: So, nah, I really was just trying to get him to say it again so we can't, you know.
smoo: shit. just do your thing. I'm an editor.
Eric: Yeah. So Nike, man, I don't like there. I don't know if it's a good buy at $38 because even if I got a Nike chart up for their stock.
Big: Uh-huh.
Eric: So five years ago, 2021, they was trading at 167 bucks. Now in their stock over the last five years, you know, now we have $38 and over the last three years, they've had seven negative consecutive quarters. So that ain't a good buy. That means if, so to say negative consecutive quarters, noon and night, his revenue has completely dropped every quarter for the last seven consecutive.
smoo: Eight it's then drop eight percent year over year.
Eric: Right, right. that tells you something. then chat says, the biggest issue right now is China is hurting badly.
2: It's crazy.
Eric: Nike's 2026 greater China revenue fell 17 % with digital sales down 25%. China used to be one of Nike's major growth engines. Number two, Nike's direct direct to consumer strategy backfire. It pulled away from retailers to push Nike.com. Nike stores, which gave competitors more shelf space and weakened some important wholesale relationships. And then the innovation drop. is, definitely can say this.
Wills On The Tank: yeah, I would say that for sure.
Eric: Nike's, they ain't, can't, can only sell me them cool grade 11s two years
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Eric: in a, you know what I mean? It says investors have questioned whether Nike relied too heavily on older franchises rather than producing enough genuinely hot new product. Then the. last three here, it says the margins and cash flow have deteriorated. Free cash flow has fallen substantially. Yup, which is what I just said. Our revenue growth has stagnated. All right, and then the turnaround isn't happening quick enough. That's another one. It's taking too long for stuff to turn around with this new CEO, Elliot Heal, and he took over, but it ain't happening right now. And then the last point, and just this week, Nike was removed. from the S &P 100 effective September 21. Yeah, it's
Wills On The Tank: Dang, I did see that. I did see that. Wow, I did see that.
smoo: Right.
Eric: leaving the S &P 500, but symbolically that's a huge fall for the company that was
smoo: yeah.
Eric: once one of America's mega cap businesses. Damn,
smoo: Yeah.
Eric: that's why it dropped so low. that is-
smoo: Yeah.
Big: That's a good buy though. That's a fucking good buy. That's
Wills On The Tank: Nothing I've seen, yeah.
Eric: Man, I'm fucking dead.
Big: a great buy. Cause it it gonna have to turn around. It's it's like it's like
Eric: But okay.
Big: it's like betting on is Nike gonna go out of business or is Nike gonna turn around.
Eric: But is the demand for high still? can you quite, if you ask me, all right, the computer chip, let's just say Nvidia, everybody know about Nvidia. If you ask me, okay, if Nvidia stock drop, if you ask me, okay, is the demand for these chips still high? I'm gonna say yes. That's why I can confidently say that in the next two years, nigga, they still gonna be selling chips at the end of the day. Can you say at two years from now, is the demand for them Nikes, the same 11s, still gonna be this as high
smoo: Nigga, we can't see you.
Eric: two years from now.
smoo: Nigga, we can't see we can't see you.
Big: And then, but see, but see, now now Bill, did this will be my question. Could you see Nike stock in the next two to five years being more than $38 and going to let's say $72 or $76? Cause that that'll double,
Eric: Okay.
Big: that'll essentially double your money.
Eric: Yeah, but that's a
smoo: Good part.
Eric: hard ax though, if you, okay, because these major athletes, Nike's strategy is to get in these spaces with these major athletes, right? There are John Marantz of the world, there's Steph Currys of the world,
Wills On The Tank: Mm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Eric: or James Harden's of the world. I just named three of them. Only one of them has a Nike deal, and that's John Marantz. Of course he's a star, but he even shaky, right? he ain't even a reliable star to even rely on. So you got the James Harden who signed with Adidas and you got Steph Curry who signed with Underwood. So that lets you know
Wills On The Tank: What's it? What Amaron? Under Ar yeah.
Eric: it's a different, now right, yeah. And it's
smoo: He would have he with a Chinese brain. Yeah.
Eric: a different playing field. Like Nike strategy outdated. So I just think that's what I'm
smoo: Well they got they got they got Victor Wimbiana. They got Victor Wimbiana and a
Big: Yeah.
smoo: couple a couple of new cats.
Big: And then then then
Eric: but but
Big: then then you still got tennis, you got baseball, you got college football. But my thing is, so so what I will bet on is that Nike being a historic foundation for sports American culture as well, that they they are gonna hire the right people to turn it around. That's what I will bet on. And and also
Wills On The Tank: That's what I think. That's what I would.
Big: I will bet on me being a fan of Nike and it being so low. That's like So, say for instance, that's like if Apple stock dropped 80%. I still gonna buy just because I'm a big fan of them. You know what I'm saying?
Eric: Yeah, that's the wrong reason to buy. You emotionally attached to the company. That don't make...
smoo: But nah, but that's
Big: Bo ba badym ba diem.
smoo: a good that's a good point though. That's a good point. Because you're supposed to buy stuff that you that you that you love. So I
Eric: Yeah, but
Big: And then and then and then and then and then but then
Eric: people love Blockbuster too. People love Blockbuster
Wills On The Tank: Or I would say so if you understand.
Eric: at one point.
smoo: You said what Bill?
Big: But but but
Eric: I said people love Blockbuster at one point. And Blockbuster was a major staple in American culture.
Wills On The Tank: That's a good point.
Eric: No, just because it's an American staple, times change. And it's actively changing in front of us. The numbers are showing you. got runners, running shoes, are people going to... Adidas, people are going to these, Hoka,
Big: Soma, Sacoma, or so yeah, hoka, hoka.
Eric: Nike never had this level of competition and now that they do and they still ain't changing these strategies. Nah, Nike, think they on their way out.
Big: But now, now, now, now, now, Bill, this is my question to you. So do you think Nike will not turn it around and still be one of the top, I guess, sporting brands? So that that's what I would bet on. And then I will buy it because it's low. It's like, it's like if you went at Walmart, everything
Wills On The Tank: That's what I was saying.
Big: gonna 80% sell on discount. It's like, it's like even if it goes, even if it goes even lower, it's it's still a deal. And I will bet on it being higher than $38 in the next five years. And that's how I would invest in it. I would say, okay, it's $38, it's down 80%. I will bet on it going up at least, let's just say if it goes up 25%. And if you put
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Big: in, like, you know what I'm saying, you put in a thousand dollars, that's $250. You know what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: Hey, some pa so some people say that's the best time to buy when when a stock drops sometimes.
Eric: No, a pullback and a drop are two different things. A pullback is, let's say, again, Nvidia goes up a hundred dollars because it made a deal with the hugging company, right? All right, they report earnings and that bitch full. They didn't make, hypothetically, they didn't make the numbers and it pulled back a 15%.
smoo: I see you then.
Eric: The demand for these chips and for this company is still high. the demand for Nike is going down. Do you understand that they're have to get a deal with the FIFA soccer? They're gonna have to get a deal with NFL. They're gonna have to get a deal with like all these different companies for this dramatic change. And I'm sorry, brother, but Nike ain't looking good. They have to
Big: But but
Eric: do too much for
3 god: I can
Eric: 25 % jump to even occur.
Big: But Bill, I I'm gonna let you go, Dink, but Bill, I would bet on them doing that than them going out of business.
smoo: Yeah, I think that's that's a look that's that's that's a lot. Like you got you you talking
3 god: Playing that's playing the field though.
Wills On The Tank: Now you spent time I for them going out of business.
smoo: about you talking about like you know like they like like Daryl said, like they s they like they stitched no pun intended in American sports. You know what I'm saying? Like these are d licensing deals that probably gone ten, twenty years. Like, you know, they with every major sporting
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: business there is. Like I don't know how you like that that's revenue in its own. So like If you it just takes the right athlete to change that. But you got it, Dink. You got it.
3 god: I was gonna say, as far as bedding, that's you you invested what you invest in, but I think I I think we making it them being dropped out of the S P one hundred is is not as big as a deal as we think it is. It sounds huge. No, no, no, no. I'm saying it sound
smoo: No, that's a big deal, then Okay.
3 god: huge because it is Nike. y'all gotta think about it, of course I'm sure y'all probably know Ford and shit, they dropped out that bitch too. it's mainly most shit is not Because of cause Nike's ain't nobody still seeing Nike far as their competitors. Ain't nobody seeing Nike. Ain't nobody seeing Nike. So what
smoo: Right, that's a good point too. That's a good point. That's a good point. Cause Undo I'm
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: out the out the pitcher gone. And hold on, D and another point,
3 god: Yeah. So t to d to their
Big: Ha ha.
2: wait.
smoo: Adidas, when they let Kanye go, they've
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: been gone.
Wills On The Tank: Rebox
3 god: So so
Wills On The Tank: and they still try they trying to get they foot in
3 god: So to to to hold on, hold on. So to to
Eric: Not yet.
smoo: No point intended, Willio.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: to Daryl point, it it depends on how you look at it. It it's it's it could be a good buy because ain't the other competit their competitors ain't seeing them still. Like time out, time out, let me finish. Y'all, y'all talk for a minute.
Eric: No, no. 8 % drop over a five year period every year consecutively. We are emotionally attached to Nike. The numbers are telling you a story, bro.
3 god: No. Bill, Bill, Bill. I I I agree with you with it. I'm not I'm not saying that. I'm saying But but Bill
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. I keep thinking about Michael Jordan and t and Nike
smoo: But the numbers but that but yeah, the numbers are telling you a story.
Wills On The Tank: and all that.
smoo: But the numbers are telling you a story, but the competition is so far behind. What story is the what story are they telling?
3 god: That's what that's what I'm trying to tell. Let me get let me get let me get my point. Let me get my point out. That's what I'm trying to tell you, Bill. It ain't it is it look bad because they dropping out of the S P 100. But far as they competitors into to Dara Point, Smooth Point, they still the sports, they still own it. Are they getting hit from different areas like running and stuff like that? Yeah, but them them like look look shots being taken. You ain't taking
smoo: Nitch, niche, niche, niche.
3 god: the company. That's just different areas. Of getting hit. But I'm still the number one nigga in that bitch. It just ain't I ain't I'm still by far, but the g the gap been closed by other competitors. And that's not just one competitor. It's just like a bunch of ACEX got me and running hookah, they for comfort shoes. New Bouncing took some of my culture fans. So it ain't like it this massive overload of New Bouncing's about to be the new Nike. Ain't Nike is still Nike. Just like McDonald's is still McDonald's. Burger King may got a little bit more sales, but nigga, it's McDonald's. Yeah. Yeah.
Big: Yeah, it ain't fucking with McDonald's. Yeah.
3 god: So, but the reason it the reason is so
Wills On The Tank: They never have.
3 god: the reason it's so it's just like Pepsi and Nike coke and went down a little bit, but I mean it's Coke. You know what I'm saying? Like get the fuck out of here. Yeah.
Big: Right, Pepsi will never fuck with Coca Cola.
3 god: So at the end of the day, yes, they dropped out of the 100, but they still the number one by far in their category. But the reason it looks so bad is because they been in that shit for so long. And it's only a matter of time because you said, to your point, to your point, niggas ain't niggas are seeing that it's really technology that's taking over. It ain't like, niggas ain't like, shit, I gotta get the newest latest drop when it's really the technology people taking over. It ain't like Nike got kicked out, then Adidas moved into S
smoo: That's a good point.
3 god: man, what the fuck?
smoo: That's a good point.
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: I'm losing to a nigga that's AI generated. That's what they got.
Big: Right. There you go.
3 god: That's what's taken out of it. to the
Eric: Yeah, great point.
3 god: in like the Infidio is all them shits. Dell just went in. the reason I'm losing to that shit.
Eric: Mm-hmm.
3 god: So and then one reason, if you really want to look at it, one reason they shit that went down, not only cause of shit they straight to consumer, you gotta think about it. With all this technology that's coming out, mostly people working from the crib.
smoo: What you mean by that?
3 god: so a lot of people
Eric: I a back load.
3 god: ain't going out. Remember it yeah, I don't I don't
smoo: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eric: I buy jewelry. I buy more jewelry than they crib.
3 god: huh? No, I'm saying more people.
smoo: Hey, but look though, look though. How many, hey, but look though. Hold on. Let me
Wills On The Tank: Say that again, D.
2: Let me say this real quick, did I notice that?
smoo: say this. Let me say this real quick. Cause I noticed this. I noticed this. How many
3 god: You got a back
smoo: of us got on Nike right
3 god: you got a echo.
smoo: now?
3 god: See,
Wills On The Tank: Thanks.
3 god: I I always wear nigga now, I'm a door nigga.
smoo: shit, Bill. The nigga who the nigga who backed the Nike got on.
2: No, he said
Eric: I do got an on-line. I got an on-line.
2: he said I still put my money with the boys
Big: Hey, hey, all my jogger sets is Nike, bro. I got all Nike
Wills On The Tank: Hey, but I I do rear if if if
Big: jogger set, all Nike shoes,
Eric: If you ask me currently, if it's just for a sporting brand, if you ask me who would I invest with right now, I would say Adidas. Just because they got the best growing revenue and I can't tell you where Nike's going. I can tell you that demand for Adidas stuff is high because soccer,
Wills On The Tank: Just saying Lair Jung.
Eric: the World Cup just showed you that.
3 god: Well that's why you would do it, that 'cause of it.
Eric: Right.
2: Yeah, I think different points for sure. Like I think
Big: But then but then but then I I w
3 god: But that's cause soccer getting bigger in America.
smoo: Hey, let let you let hey, hold on, hold on, hold on. Let let two get it.
2: like I'm too different. Talk of points for sure. Like we probably will rock first probably is Nike. But what I'm going to go for investing a many numbers. But at same time, Nike can afford to lose five years in a row and still be ahead. I didn't let you I niggas so many times. I'm cool.
Eric: Thanks.
2: But my trans, no one I'm going down, but the gap is still here. You know what mean?
smoo: It's like it's like Drake and Kendrick, or Drake in the field. everybody look at Drake, normally he ain't doing a million no more, but he's still doing six hundred thousand. And that's still that's
3 god: That's what we that's what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah.
smoo: still better than everybody.
Eric: Crazy.
2: Yeah, I say it
Wills On The Tank: Streaming
2: all straight. I don't know if this I don't
Wills On The Tank: everybody, I'll sell it everybody.
2: know if this correlated or not, but I think who was it was Reese Angel Sheep. I don't know if y'all talked about it. Angel Sheep. She will her brand, but you know, like it usually customized tradition to wear nice. They they they the sponsor of the Olympics. She knows saying she she will her rebukes. jumps to the I don't know if this is a test of silent times. I know I don't know if you guys like complaining about that, but you know they all complain about her. Huh?
3 god: Jordan did it. Jordan did the same thing. You know, where he had to put the flag over his when they won the Olympics. I I can't remember which
Wills On The Tank: I remember that. I know you're talking about Dink. I know you're talking about
2: I don't
Eric: If you ask me what I'm doing, I'm supposed to run my best things with NASA.
smoo: Another great topic, man. Another great topic, man.
Wills On The Tank: I've seen
smoo: I don't know if y'all paid attention or heard about this story, but I think this is a a crazy story.
Eric: Gotta echo, smooth.
2: It echoes, man.
smoo: Me or the dumb these niggas.
Eric: Baby.
3 god: The evening.
Eric: There it is, it's going now.
smoo: It's that nigga too. Sonda Rhymes in Disney. Y'all ever heard about this story?
Eric: No, tell me what's
smoo: Alright, so Sonda Rhymes, she created Gray's Anatomy. She created Scandal. She created how to how to get away with murder. and she
Big: Damn.
smoo: a black woman. She a black woman.
Wills On The Tank: Yes, I didn't hear this.
smoo: So, so basically, like, you know, she'd have made she'd have made Disney like billions and billions of dollars. So, she, her family, they getting ready to go to Disney World. So She had some family members get added to the, to the list, whatever the case may be. She added them in, hey, y'all want my auntie to get free tickets. So they basically get to, they get to Disney World, and they don't got the free tickets for her aunt. So she called, she called, hey, like, hey, where the tickets at? They like, yo, we we can't give you the tickets, whatever the case may be. Then she called a VP, somebody the higher ups at Disney. And they uttered the words to her, don't you already have enough? So now she with Netflix.
Eric: Bye.
smoo: So
Eric: Bye.
smoo: It's crazy how you done made you
2: It's crazy how late...
smoo: you this black woman, you done made these this company a billion dollars, bro. And you can't get free tickets to Disney World?
3 god: Well, let's say it that happened a while ago too though. I'm I'm I'm not justifying
2: They have been while.
smoo: Right, right, right. I I just haven't never heard the story. This is my first time hearing the story.
3 god: Crazy. That's that shit was famous though, yeah. But when I seen in then the breakdown, I was like, damn, w I thought it was something new that happened, but I mean I thought something new happened within that story 'cause I heard the story
smoo: no, I just never heard a story.
3 god: before. That shit that was shit was like crazy then.
smoo: Mm-hmm.
3 god: I mean shit, but you know, like that that was just a breaking point though. That wasn't no like a like damn y'all can't give me no tickets, fuck it, I'm out of here. Like that was like a breaking point 'cause she was I think she had some trouble with murder, what's the name of the move? No name of the show. Yeah,
smoo: How to get away with murder?
3 god: I think she had some issues with that going on, 'cause she had some s like they had some subject matter, and I could be wrong, but I think I remember like far as like, you know, just listening when that shit was kinda fresh, it was some shit some subject matter she wanted to put in there, but they were like, nah, and shit like that. Some some shit she wanted to add. But I know that much because me and Lex was w not me and Lex, I know I know that much 'cause yeah, me and Lex when before it was running at the same time in real time, we was watching how to get away with murder. So that
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: shit was super good. So I was kinda interested in that. So that's how I know about this story, I guess. But yeah,
Eric: That's Korean.
3 god: though. It w that was just kinda a tipping point. It was just man, bro, you y'all been tripping all this time, you can't now and now you won't now y'all can't give me no tickets. 'Cause bro, give me this Netflix. And I think it says she've been there for a little a break now.
Eric: But Disney, I think Disney run into the same thing Nike's gonna run into a little bit because,
smoo: That's a good point. That's a good point.
Eric: look at, the numbers tell you everything. If you invested in Disney five years ago at a hundred, six years ago at $101, I think, you would have relatively lost money. Cause now he's trading at $105 versus 172, my bad, six years ago. So it's like stagnation. He's old. They're not coming up with new innovative things like Moana. The movie just came out about Moana. It did poorly in the box office. the real version, Spider-Man
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. The real one, yeah.
smoo: is para many.
Eric: did good, like, I mean, that's nothing
Wills On The Tank: That's where Disney? Spider Man?
Eric: new.
3 god: Well more, yeah.
Eric: Disney ain't doing nothing new though. These how many times can you come up with a version of Spider-Man? that's a once in a generational almost
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. Yeah.
Eric: like movie. One of be
smoo: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: come out every seven years. You know what mean? So it's like, you gotta be innovative.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. It is. And then it
smoo: Mm-hmm. Yeah, they they
3 god: Hold on, hold on.
smoo: show they show you gotta dink.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: My bad, bro. I d I mean, I just I'm kinda going that bit because I like you making that shit sound worse than what it really is. It's not that the fact that shit just like going down. One thing it is is just more access to different shit. So you know, you ain't got that like back in the day. Ford and all these one people, it was just you going to that direct access. Now you got multiple stuff out. So of course they're gonna take some customers. Like Nike and shit. it's so many different brands now that niggas go to other shit. So you go of course some of those gonna be taken away.
Eric: How many smartphones are on the market right now? Exactly. And Apple's still the one. So when you're the big dog, you gotta be innovative and you gotta sweep your foot on that net.
3 god: Yeah, but does you you you proving my point. You proving my point.
Wills On The Tank: Both of y'all got two both of y'all got great points. Two things could be Yeah, both of y'all got great points.
3 god: No, you prove I'm saying though, hold on, T Wheels, you prove you you're proving my point though, Bill. that's what we were saying. Nike it's Nike is still the top dog, even though Galaxy didn't up their revenue. But they still ain't fucking with Apple. They took Apple took some shots. Cool. Yeah, y'all got some y'all got some homies that joined the battle. Cool. But y'all still ain't fucking with me. Far as my competitors, y'all ain't fucking with me.
Eric: I think even they was getting to it.
3 god: Am I losing to another another AI nigga? Yeah, but I ain't even in that field anyway.
Eric: But you gotta even look at Apple, Dean. Apple is even changing CEOs and Tim Cook probably is arguably the best CEO ever of any big company. But I'm saying, hold on.
3 god: No, I I I that ain't my
Eric: The point I'm trying to make is that it's time to change and go in a new direction. Apple is doing it while they're still the big dogs. know what I mean? Nike is trying to turn shit around while shit is too late. Disney is getting to the point where shit is getting too late. Disney as a company and then kind of going back to the Shonda Rhimes thing.
smoo: Yeah, what what what you mean by too late though? What
3 god: That's what I'm saying. I don't get that.
Big: I I don't think it's too late for Nike. That that's that's what I are. It's too late for Disney, but not not Nike.
Eric: Well, not, yeah, it's too, not, all right, their company is still a great company. Of course, they, what y'all saying, we can't ignore that. But the company, as far as these numbers, bro, a six year, seven, last seven quarters, they report negative numbers? Do y'all understand? I get what you're saying. They're so far ahead of, can, they can do that. But nigga, this, if this go on for another three years, they in trouble.
3 god: Built, but that ain't my point
Eric: You should have dinner!
3 god: though. You taking
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: away the new, you taking away the I'm saying you making that shit sound bigger than what it really is. You taking away the new ones. You taking away the the it's not really that the product didn't drop, it's the necessity. That's why technology is becoming in the top SP 100 because because
smoo: Okay, Dean, okay dean.
3 god: it is it's everything we doing right now is a necessity. Shoes are not a necessity. So That's gonna take some of my energy away from shoes because half the shit is AI generated. Most people working from home and shit like that. You got you got online schooling. You got all that shit. So I don't have to have the cleanest shoes cause right now, nigga, you ain't know I had on socks. it that shit don't matter no more. So the necess
Eric: That would, that would.
3 god: it ain't the fact that the product didn't drop. I mean I ain't gonna say it hasn't dropped, but it's also big because of the necessity. That's why all these technology companies is taking away niggas. And going into the S P 100, it's not really because of the product, it's because nigga, I I got Jordan's or do I want the AI?
smoo: I don't agree with that point, but Willio, you got a point first, Willio?
Wills On The Tank: no I actually forgot what I was gonna say. It don't it don't even matter. Yeah.
3 god: Damn my bamboo.
Wills On The Tank: It's all good. Yeah, yeah. Yeah it's all good. I was I was yeah, both
Eric: Here's a good point, I think.
Wills On The Tank: of y'all said two points that that that had me thinking, but I can't even remember what I said, what it was so what I was thinking about. So it don't even matter.
smoo: Damn, what she got?
Eric: It is really.
Big: My my my point would be my
Wills On The Tank: I've totally forgot what I was gonna say.
Big: point would be in that situation, it's just like Microsoft versus Apple. Apple, of course, took off further than Microsoft, but Microsoft is still the leader and it still was a good buy. Even though Apple was trending way higher than Microsoft. Microsoft is still the number
smoo: That's good point.
Big: one used computer.
smoo: Yeah, that's a good point.
Wills On The Tank: I do remember what I was gonna say. cause Dick Dick was talking about
smoo: I see I don't matter with you.
Big: Go ahead, Willio, say it, Willio.
2: We good.
Wills On The Tank: Dick was talking about how you know it's just more choices for other things. And I and what made me think is when I went back to my childhood, it's like, yeah, we used to watch a lot of Disney movies, but then like now when I look at my kids, like I literally thought about this yesterday. I I was like looking at Kingston, and he was watching, he watched, he watches a lot of these YouTube shorts, like. other d other other kids on YouTube. And I was like, man, in my mind, I was like, this is crazy. We was watching Disney movies like Look Who's Talking or you know what remember all those movies Christina had when we were kids? we used to watch all of those movies on Disney. And I'm like these
smoo: I know.
Wills On The Tank: kids they don't watch nothing like that. They go they rather watch other kids sh like showcase their toys and stuff like that
Big: On YouTube.
Wills On The Tank: on YouTube. And I'm like
smoo: That help that that helps that helps build point about them not being innovative and knowing how to to navigate
Wills On The Tank: Catcher the
smoo: to that to that space that that that that YouTube is in. You know what I'm saying? So I think that helps that point. And
Wills On The Tank: That's good point. That is.
smoo: then I think Disney,
2: and I think...
smoo: they fail dramatically at like all these these Marvel TV shows. They fail dramatically at all
Eric: Yes.
smoo: of them. It ain't I don't think it's been one Marvel TV show that hasn't gotten canceled. I think all of them got canceled.
Eric: Yes.
smoo: so I think that is something that they they failed in. But I think to Dink Point, I think I think you you when you look at the numbers, you can say yes. But you gotta remember, Bill, like a lot of these niggas got cash on hand. To to help them, and it goes back to Daryl point about hiring new people. They got enough money where they could see everything that's going wrong right now for five years and being like, okay, where do we need to be in the next five to ten years that this does not happen? We talking about motherfuckers with billions on billions on billions. So yeah, I agree. Like the numbers might not be looking good right now, and they have gone down consecutively, but it's too much money. It's too much money with all these niggas for them to fall by the wayside if it ain't no it if it ain't no no sexual harassment cases and shit like that. Nigga, we can go we can go buy we can go hire your best hitter. You know what I'm saying? That's what the fuck Facebook did. Cause Facebook was going through this same shit. They were going through
Big: Thanks.
smoo: the same shit. Nigga, they went and hired every fucking body who who did all this fucking AI shit. And not everybody back on a fucking Facebook bandwagon. Now I don't know how they start looking shit like that, but I do remember when Ian was talking about how bad Facebook was. And them niggas, them niggas changed
3 god: I'm not.
smoo: that shit. So I think when you got
Eric: deal with the middle.
smoo: when you got that type of money, bro, nigga, you can go hire your
Big: You, you, you, you can go buy a for real. Like how Adidas went and got for real, you can go get a for real. That's all they need, somebody like that.
Eric: I think five years is a long time consecutive year.
3 god: Bro, at the end of the day but I'm just saying at the end of the day, it ain't I I'm just saying at the end of the day it ain't that big of now if they dog, they are losing to somebody that's not their competitor. That's all I was saying. it's that's
smoo: Yeah, I guess.
Eric: I fear you do.
3 god: it's not that big of a deal as you I ain't saying that it's not bad or great. I'm just saying I don't think it's supposed to be like this huge deal when you got other brands that's probably nipping. But they ain't still ain't shit compared to And then all the people that's taking my spot. Now, if you say that damn Adidas took their spot in S P one hundred, what the fuck? Adidas coming up? Then it's like, shit, what the fuck going on? But nigga,
Eric: Mm.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: you l you losing to Pellotar or whatever the fuck name of them niggas. They th who the fuck is that? Yeah, that's a like there's a no brand name. It's a brand name far as in the IT industry. But that's what the whole makeup becoming, IT niggas. it's it's a cybersecurity place.
smoo: Yeah, the what you saying is the S P the S P five the S P one hundred is just like technology and language models and all of this type of shit. That's what you saying.
3 god: Yeah, yeah. I mean you losing to you you you losing to a non-competitor. I can't compete with niggas that can create a fucking website in ten seconds. I that ain't my feel. If you saying I'm losing to fucking rebock, we got a problem.
smoo: But I will say this too though. I I will say this to the Nike point. I think I think social media could be a a problem for Nike as well, too. Cause you think about all the what's what you call these low I wanna say local brands, but like niggas ain't niggas ain't gotta wear Nike no more. Yeah, like
Eric: Hocus the freedom
smoo: you ain't gotta wear you don't gotta wear Nike. Like
2: got a web.
smoo: you can like that that like that nigga, I did not think that was A Nike sweater you got on, Bill. I can go find
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: that bitch at Old Navy for $12. You know
Eric: Yep.
smoo: what I'm saying?
3 god: Why you ain't know that was Nike?
smoo: Shit, nigga, I seen him at Old Navy and TJ Maxx and Jerry Lee's and
3 god: No, no, this ain't again shoot, this is built.
Wills On The Tank: He said, J
3 god: Built.
smoo: I seen them I seen that bitch in a gas station.
3 god: y'all. I ain't no I ain't
Wills On The Tank: Mm.
3 god: know everybody No, you ain't lying though. Niggas ain't
smoo: Yeah, I'm getting
Eric: I'm feeling
smoo: shit. I'm being
Eric: them there though.
smoo: funny, but nigga, I seen that I've seen that type of hoodie everywhere. And that's Kanye shit. That is Kanye shit that you got on. Yeah.
Eric: The style for sure This is the style. He got the baggy look the crop hoodie with shorter the arms as long like and then Nike just got on this train late, too So it's like man. I don't know. I think Nike is they ain't they in trouble, you know It ain't no it ain't no one way to fix
3 god: They started making their shoes like Asix and shit too.
Eric: this problem in this but it's telling the story what so what you're saying is true dink I do think Adidas is creeping up on Nike and you know I don't know how long it's gonna take for them to overtake them, but it's a multi-layer thing. Technology, brand is going down.
Wills On The Tank: I know.
Eric: Right, China is like, then, not to mention, nigga, if you got WhatsApp, you can go to
3 god: Yeah.
Eric: go get to the source directly, nigga. I'm not buying no Jordans in the store. I'm 35, I'm gonna go get me some reps. I'ma just tell you, like, I'm going straight to China to go get them. You know what I mean? Like, nah, man. Like, and then, it's too much of that nowadays, so.
3 god: Yeah, I just yeah.
smoo: Yes indeed, man. Any lasting points?
3 god: no man, I think that's pretty good good episode. It has a bunch of disagreements. You heard me? That's when it's great.
Eric: man.
smoo: Home, baby. Hey, make sure y'all
Wills On The Tank: What a
smoo: two and deep. Make sure y'all tracks load it up, bro.
3 god: Well we just leave it on him.
smoo: Yeah, just whatever you gotta do.
3 god: b.
smoo: All right, phone home, folks.
Eric: Bye Gary.
Wills On The Tank: yeah.
smoo: Yep.
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