Can You Suffer From Success?
smoo: Yo, what it do, man? It's
3 god: And I told that he put my bad.
smoo: your boy Smooth, aka Mr. Do what it do, aka always on the move, and this is episode seventy-seven of the Phone Home Podcast.
3 god: Yes, sir.
Eric: Yo yo, shout out to that boy two, shout out to that boy Daryl, taking two spots today and going second. Shibboy Eric, Jumane, Jupiter, Commission Cowboy, Bluebeard Wheels, KG gang, keep going, mafia. The only the only mindset is the only thing stopping you. You feel me?
smoo: Mm-hmm.
Eric: Yezerski. for all your mental health needs, you know the vibes, man. Visit myconnect counseling.net again. Said two times, cause you know I like two chill. Visit myconnect counseling.net. For all you mental health needs, man. We're feeling good, man. We're blessed. Seventy seven. I don't really know about number seventy seven except Luca. So, let's have a legendary episode. I think he's a legend in the making. Seven is also a lucky number. So I like to roll sevens on a come out. I don't shoot dice, but they just sound cool to say. and yeah, all love, man. Let's have a lucky episode. Legendary episode. We're gonna keep it rolling.
smoo: Lucky seven.
3 god: Let's see.
Wills On The Tank: Like this,
3 god: Man, what it do, boy? It's your boy Three Z A D three AKA, not the number but the name, man. I'm always here with the three on the shoulder, man. T Will, tell them what the business is.
Wills On The Tank: Man, all praise to the most high, man. It's your dog Terrell Tarantino, aka Terrell Wheels, aka T Wheels, aka T Wheels on the Tank, aka the Cotton Blendada, aka the Iron Fist hitting you harder than ever coming at you like that there, man. Shout out to all the fans. We be the heads of the cool cat clan.
Eric: On a cool clay.
3 god: We be the heads of the Ku Klux Klan. We be the heads of that bitch.
smoo: No pun intended. We be the heads of the Ku Klux Klan.
Eric: The hair is one.
Wills On The Tank: my goodness.
3 god: Man, that shit be sound like that so much. I mean every time you say that shit like that nigga be down there dead close.
smoo: Right.
3 god: Head of the cool club clan.
Eric: Glitching out over there, what?
Wills On The Tank: my goodness! What the
3 god: My motherfucking light keep falling,
smoo: Right.
3 god: man.
smoo: With the noose. This nigga's a noose.
Eric: With the news going stovy.
Wills On The Tank: my goodness.
Eric: Going stovy.
Wills On The Tank: Well, we're gonna get canceled.
smoo: Man, what'd it do, man? Man, we had a great weekend, a great weekend of football. Just a just just a great
3 god: Great, great, great.
Eric: do you
smoo: weekend in general, man. we had a lot of rain this weekend, you know. So, you know, that nigga, you know, speaking of all that rain, I had one of my properties goddamn crawl space, damn first floor flooded. Flooded. But
3 god: Damn.
smoo: luckily we caught it in time. But hey boy, that rain was something serious.
Wills On The Tank: Mm.
Eric: Yeah. So what do you do when
3 god: You got it.
Eric: that happens, bro? Like you said a crawl space, that's like the basement?
smoo: Yeah, it just the crawl space, like s in houses in Georgia you got crawl spaces. A lot of houses ain't on the slab. you got houses that are on the slab. This n ca this nigga been
3 god: Man, I don't know, I'm I'm getting this shit together now, man. I don't know why they'd be all sudden falling today.
smoo: But yeah, you got you got houses that's on a slab and then you got houses with crawl spaces, split levels and shit like that. So when you got a split level and a crawl space, in the basement too, but if you don't got the proper water irrigation, your shit definitely can flood, especially with all that rain that we had and with it being a property I just like I just got not too long ago. It's like, I ain't really know too much about the water irrigation 'cause a lot of times you buy houses when it ain't raining and shit like that. So some of that shit you just find out as you go. So, yeah.
Eric: Yeah. Do you get better as like now you know like yo, I that's something I need to check for when I buy a crib now. Or that's
smoo: Can't really check for it. Yeah, you can't really check for it unless it's pouring down rain and and then you and then you find that issue, beforehand, doing your inspection. But if it ain't raining, shit, you really don't know. but I mean you can like, you know, like you could check for mold and you know, let's say like it might be in recent water issues and like I say, if it's damp then stuff like that. But if it ain't rain, you can't really you can't really check for stuff like that. You just, you know, be prepared for it. So luckily we was prepared for the house ain't too far from my house, so yeah.
Eric: For sure, for sure.
smoo: But yeah, that shit was crazy. But it happened early in the day though, so I ain't missed no football.
3 god: Yeah.
Eric: that happened Saturday?
smoo: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: Ooh wee Well, 'cause we had some we had some heavy hitter Saturday. Bama and Bama and Georgia was the one. I but that was
3 god: Going.
smoo: Shit, that was that was a great game, but shit, nigga, Oklahoma, Texas, that was a great game. UCLA
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: and Oregon, that was a great game. And I
3 god: Got you.
Eric: More.
smoo: wanna I wanna kinda address something. this nigga too, he gonna always get on at ten fifteen, ten sixteen. I wanna kinda address something with this with this archman and tour, boy. This arch man
Eric: Bro, lava.
smoo: and shit, tour. This nigga too shit ain't working already. Their browser is not allowing riverside to say to this. Yo they say your browser not allowing you to record. Shit, just log back out and then come back in and see what happened. Let's see what happened then. So yeah, man, I got a bone to pick with with all these motherfucking goddamn quarterback analysts, bro. Like, it's like niggas, we see we we in a we in a world of instant gratification when it comes to these fucking quarterbacks, bro. And every and I'm not I'm gonna I'm gonna zoom in on arch right quick. Okay, I understand that arch might not be The best thing since sliced bread. And obviously that's because of his fucking family that everybody has a problem with arts. But my nigga, five to ten years ago, 15 years ago, it was niggas who went number one at quarterback who threw 15 to 20 interceptions
3 god: shit.
smoo: a year. Now all of a sudden, a nigga throw an interception, he trash. I seen that nigga.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: And the thing about this shit is, the thing about it is, Arts threw a pick. He threw a pick. the first time he threw a now, he threw a what they call a a damn footlong sub, or whatever they call the shit. He threw a damn meatball. He
3 god: Ham sandwich.
smoo: did. But that next drive, the next drive, he drove that bitch down there, putting that bitch on our money. Okay, he fuck up at the end, but a lot of that shit is mental. And a lot of GMs and a lot of niggas who who see this shit is like, he knows how to do it. You just gotta eliminate mistakes. That
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: mistakes don't make you a great or bad football player. It's the potential of what he can do. Now, don't get me wrong. The nigga, he might not be Payne Manning, he might not be Eli Manning. But to act like the nigga ain't showing some type of Some type of trajectory is flat out crazy. And it's every
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: week. And it's like niggas, and it's like niggas will do that right when he fuck up. But then nobody acknowledge the drive when he threw that bitch like 50 yards to Cam Coleman, put that bitch right on the money. Don't nobody acknowledge that. And that's when they went down, he came right back. That's really the sign of a nigga good or not. If you can you bounce back? Now he
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: did fuck up at the end, but. To me, interceptions in this sport, that shit don't mean shit, bro. Baker Mayfield, he throw pick at the pick. The league loves quote unquote gunslingers versus nigga who who who hesitant to throw that bitch like Jalen Hurts. They they brag about just the Herbert every fucking week. And he throw 10 to fucking, he throw, he throw a pick every week. Drake May, he throw picks every week. Josh Allen, he throw picks. Picks every fucking week. But the the media are not even the media, but the internet is going, man, arcs. Bro, they don't give a fuck about interceptions, bro. It is about your potential that niggas are looking at. Now, I don't really care about the nigga arts, but basing this shit off of interceptions is fucking crazy when you look at the history of niggas who throw picks, paint men and do fucking things. 30 picks and first in NFL. What are we talking about?
Eric: Brent Ford, same thing.
2: Bread froth gun
smoo: Fourth! these niggas throw picks!
2: gunslinger.
smoo: But all of a sudden, now that the internet exists, you can't you can't throw a pick. The shit crazy, bro. The shit crazy.
Eric: Yeah. I think I think man, you know, I I think there'd be a lot of clickbait too because
Wills On The Tank: That's what it is. Cause a lot of people especially like media media companies, like I I even heard this when we was I was watching Market Mondays, they was like, you know, a lot of times people say negative things because it it's in their best interest to get the the most clicks and it gets the most views and stuff like that. So, you know, sometimes they gonna say stuff to they kinda you know make people negative stuff that did to help, make their clicks go up. So, that makes it that definitely makes sense.
Eric: For sure. Hey. Yeah, but I do think Arch is a gamer though. I think Arch is a gamer. I like his game. I like I like Arch because he played with a lot of heart. Like, I think Arch is so Personally, when I watch Archie Manymar, I think he'd be in his head about a lot of things. I think he'd be in his head about the legacy of his uncles and and and like trying to live up to that name until Arch there's a certain drives, especially at the end of the game, where he just said, you know what, if it I'ma just play and I'm gonna just get the job done. And that's when Arch is at his best. I don't like I don't like the arch that's just sitting back in the pocket. And he's a he he he he can pass now. I ain't gonna that he can pass but I just like I like Ars when he w when he just a gamer he take on that Tim T bow style play he he a dog bro he a dog
smoo: That's true. That's true. And you got to take
2: Yeah,
smoo: that. You got to take that.
2: you ain't you you ain't gotta read.
smoo: You got it you got it you gotta
2: Ei lá. You gotta reach that f to Tebo, Eli. Hey man. This this this like this
smoo: Yeah. Eli that Eli threw Eli threw thirty fucking picks a year.
Eric: Yeah.
2: But just Eli beat that man. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes I can't be I might not be Peyton. I might not be what I did with with how dad got the speed limited miss. Shit. I know Un, I know Un did shit. He threw this mother. I'm finna do something. I'm finna do something to r for
Eric: Yeah.
2: my name gonna be this is a legacy too. And he proved it though, he proves it.
Eric: Hey, you know what though? I think that yeah, right, right. I personally think him being a gamer is actually his legacy. he ain't he he ain't Peyton Manning. that ain't who he is. He he'll never
2: Mm-hmm.
Eric: be paid manning. He is a more Tim Tebow style quarterback. and I think that's it gonna be his claim to the league too, because now you see the Josh Allen's of the world. who can who big and physical. You see, these guys who are huge, they can kinda take the direct
2: Okay.
Eric: snap and go right up the middle with it. So I think that's Arch Lane. He should like maybe focus on that. That's me personally, just kinda watching this game.
2: But how do you when that when you also you trying to be a quarterback, you trying to progress in the league, but you also got legacy. I think on this pile we can't dove back and and forget it. What we saying legacy is like a kinda important. So like how do you high how do you how
Eric: Yeah, but I think his his name
2: do you do both?
Eric: his name is his legacy. If he win, Arts if all he gotta do is win. It don't matter how he get the wins. All he gotta do is win. Scouts gonna come
2: I agree with that, yeah.
Eric: for him. I think
3 god: If all he gotta do is win, what'd you mean all he do he got to win? 'Cause J. J. McCarthy, all he did win, he getting screwed out heavily now. So w what we mean by that?
smoo: Well, hold on, you keep saying J J McCarthy getting
Eric: Mm-hmm.
smoo: scrutinized heavy. He played ten games, Ding. That's not enough that's not enough time to be scrutinizing this league, bro.
3 god: Bro, I didn't say I'm scrutinizing him, I said he getting scrutinized. Bilp
smoo: Right.
3 god: said Bilp said that all he does gotta win. And I'm I'm my pushback to that is like, okay, but that's all he got to do with with all the stuff that he got on as far as legacy with Eli, Arch, Peyton, I don't think that's all he gotta do is win because they done seen a all we you gotta do is win type of quarterback and he still get heavily scrutinized without the legacy. So I I I push back on that.
Eric: Yeah. Right.
3 god: I mean, you got the to be in those shoes he gotta do more than just win. Like he got to have the stats and the the win. You can't be I don't wanna say sound.
smoo: Are we talking about are we talking man being number one pick? Are we talking about going first round? What are we talking about? So what are we talking
3 god: Nah, he's not gonna be no one pick. He gonna be he He
smoo: about?
3 god: I'm talking about the legacy. if you're talking about holding that legacy like two
smoo: Well I I don't yeah, I don't think I don't think that
3 god: said my bet well two said two said that Eli got I beat that guy twice. You know what I'm saying? And, you know, Payne, you know, can see it all, art, you know, his you know, his granddad saint, all that. So
smoo: Well that's what I'm saying. That's that's Eli Eli legacy is is ten ten fifteen years in the league. So Peyton
3 god: Mm.
smoo: made Peyton he Payton had a legacy when he came out with he won I think he won the Heisman and shit like that. but I mean everybody can't be Peyton. So so I
3 god: No, Cosmet.
smoo: think the as far as like I think what Bip's saying might be true in college. Like if you win, yes.
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: But the league, I think, yeah, you gotta I think that's where he gotta create a quote unquote name for himself.
Eric: Yeah, for sure.
smoo: But this shit to me, right, what we going through right now, I think this shit is all about potential. And how the internet sees it, I think is different from how GM see it. I don't think they they care about the the picks and all that shit as much as
2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
smoo: we think they do.
Eric: Yeah, but you but you I but if you ask Tua Man that man look look man look watching that game
smoo: That's another one. That's another one. That's another one.
Eric: watching that game last night broke my heart. It did. And let me tell you
2: Yeah.
3 god: Two.
Eric: let me tell you why. Because I personally don't think to like Tua deserves to be in the league, but just not on the Atlanta Falcons. Like that's all I'm saying. I just don't think
smoo: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What is that what does that mean?
3 god: I don't know how we switch from arts to tools and saying you ain't fucking like
2: No, it makes sense. It makes sense. It makes sense. It makes sense.
Eric: Why why
2: Yes, it does.
Eric: why I like to a man, so I never I I just I can't forget what he did in Alabama, man, and I just think that he a phenomenal
smoo: And with Miami. And with Miami.
Eric: Yeah, well, yep. For me. Yep.
2: Hey, did y'all boys see that clip for
3 god: Right.
2: the boys that they had that clip of going in for the Falcons.
smoo: I seen it. I seen it.
Eric: Man. Man, look. I I knew it. I hey, did y'all see that meme where like I think B J Bijan Robinson was like
2: this is this element. This one this was It was a yeah damn never mind.
smoo: Yeah, that was bad.
3 god: Yeah.
Eric: tagging him. He was just like, hey bruh, hey bruh. That was like, bruh, Bijan like trying to get this nigga out of the game before he even started.
Wills On The Tank: Excuse me.
Eric: Bro.
3 god: let's go back let's go back to art. Let's go back to art.
smoo: No, let Bill finish this point about two or though real quick.
Eric: Nah, bro. Yeah, appreciate it, dog. Bro, tour, I just believe that he when it comes I'm talking about strictly picks. In the league, I see what you're saying. But Arch, he doing in what he's doing in colleges, he just needs to win. But when you in this league tour, bruh, get your ass back on the bench and don't ever think about coming back in the game, my nigga. We hey we
3 god: What?
Eric: get hello. We need to next time. I don't give a damn. If pennies get hurt, we need to go to the third string. Don't bring Tua back in there. No, bruh.
3 god: No.
smoo: Bro, but but listen, dog, two, dog, the the Atlanta Falcon fans, y'all are the worst fucking fans in the National Football League. You
Eric: Hm.
smoo: included, Bill. These niggas had Matt Ryan, and they would, they wanted that nigga, they they wanted that nigga gone. This nigga was a fucking MVP, went to the Super Bowl. They never been to
3 god: Re real good of you.
smoo: the Super Bowl.
Eric: I ain't never liked that man. Mm-hmm.
smoo: And they wanted the nigga go. Then you get then you get Desmond Ritter, he trash,
Eric: Prayers.
smoo: then you get Michael Penix and everybody on his bandwagon. Then the moment he starts fucking up, man, get this nigga out of here, get him out of here, get him out of here. Now he done had
3 god: Mira
Eric: Não, Michael Pimmy do René, Michael Pill.
2: Whoa, I think
smoo: he done had two good games. See, see, see.
Eric: Penny's demand. We won't, but we we need penny. Pennyx was just our guy who needed time to develop.
2: Alright, cool. I think this I think this will go back to the point though. That's why
smoo: That's crazy, bro. That's crazy, bro.
3 god: So we gonna move it to the we moving to them or what we doing?
2: No wait, this is why I think. That's why Vic need his own day. Vic need a jersey.
3 god: Fuck.
2: Cause people like w when Michael is doing this thing, motherfuck all right, cool. We might not win the Super Bowl. I ain't no Falcons fan, but if you're of the culture, we we go let me stop saying we. I feel you though, man. Like if you eat anything in a sort of of Michael Vic, we're gonna celebrate you and you need Man, don't give seven to somebody else. We want to celebrate you and then and we we appreciate you being of culture. Cause
3 god: Down
2: she 'cause we gotta celebrate something. Like the saints, like the saints, we the celebrate saints celebrate not having them their face. Let a lot celebrate them having culture and somebody being cold on their team.
3 god: Bro, y'all keep saying this coaches shit. If that if the white dude were white doing the same thing where we have a coaches. No, it's just like bro, Michael Vick was a okay quarterback. He was a good, talented quarterback that could run really good. But
2: Okay, what you come on man.
3 god: he was he was okay. He was a good quarterback.
2: Mag we sorry.
3 god: He was great. He was I'm talking about compared to compare him to Pate Man and what was he? He was okay, right? He was good. All
2: Okay.
3 god: right, that's what I'm talking about. I ain't gonna call you great, because then if I if I call you great, I gotta compare you to the greats. That's what I'm saying. I I can't do that. So I'm saying in the in the retrospect that we're talking about, in the in the round we're talking about, he was a okay to good quarterback.
2: No, we're not but we're not comparing him to them guys. We we compare him to guys we comp we only compare him to Atlanta.
3 god: But okay, let's let's let's compare it. Let's let's go back to this two. Let's go back to let's go
2: I th and I think Atlanta my I mind you I think Atlanta probably one of the only cities that you can compare them to a city or then sport.
3 god: Okay, let's let's do this too. Then y'all talking about give him a number. Shit, that number gone. That bitch gone.
smoo: Mm.
3 god: That bitch gone. That bit like
2: Yeah, that the
3 god: we w Bro, y'all might bro, y'all only way we better retire a Michael Vic jersey to put a zero on back of bitch. Or just Vic with no number on that bitch. That's the best thing y'all probably gonna do right now. Cause ain't nobody
2: Yeah, not so with that.
Eric: All right.
3 god: ain't nobody I'm gonna tell you right here, right now. Ain't nobody tapping on B Shun's shoulder and say, hey, hey, can we get that seven? Nobody. Nobody. So we
Eric: Hmm. I don't
3 god: can counsel Christmas for that. Cause if that bitch get
2: Yeah.
3 god: retired, it's gonna be un well the Robinson name on back of that bitch for now. that shit done. I'm I'm just gonna be honest with you.
Eric: I ain't mad at that.
2: I don't I don't know.
Eric: I'm a Michael Vic fan and I ain't mad at that.
2: I don't know, we gotta see what he do with it. But but I'm saying is what I'm saying is
3 god: No, s I'm I'm talking about trajectory. I'm talking about trajectory. Of course of course anything can happen.
2: Mind you saying my trajectory.
smoo: Victor no damn trajectory.
3 god: Well yeah, he only played
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: well, he played that what, eight years? Seven?
2: He didn't? Mike hold on, Bill. Mike, Vic and Hanover.
Eric: Yeah, they tripped me.
smoo: Nah bro, nah.
3 god: No, I think he's trying to say where it was just the way y'all talking about, like for instance, pay my home pay my own.
smoo: L the way you just did your head, the way you did your head, that it didn't his his career don't deserve
2: Play.
smoo: that, bro.
3 god: I I don't I don't y like y'all y'all acting like this nigga d got like deep playoff runs and shit. Like Vic was great. Like don't get me wrong. I like I like Vic. But Vic won the first of his kind. He wasn't, so it ain't like he can take that away. Was he the
Eric: Who was before him like that? Who was before him like Michael Vic, bro? Who was before Michael Vick? Who was before him that was like Michael Vick?
3 god: No, I'm talking about far as running quarterback. Now that's that's what I'm saying you had Randall Cunningham, you had you had you had Cold Pepper, you had people running. He ain't the first runner.
Eric: Man, if you compare Randall Counter Ham to Michael Vick, I Stop! Stop!
2: You true. Yeah.
3 god: So Runley Randall Callahan wanna run a quarterback that could run?
Eric: Hey, get out of here, bro. Get out of here. Stop that, man. Michael Mitchell, Michael, what are you here, bro?
2: But mind you got you got things V Vic to Atlanta, Vic to Atlanta is is
3 god: No bro, no, see that's what I'm
smoo: That's what it is though. That's what it is.
3 god: saying. That's the shit that's the shit smooth talking about, bro. Y'all, y'all, y'all trying to get this nigga this type of level.
smoo: Hey Dean Dean, they try to they they try to be like, Man, Michael V, he used to go to Magic City. nigga, what the fuck they got to do with football?
Wills On The Tank: Ha ha ha
3 god: anything.
Eric: No, no.
3 god: I'm saying this dude was
2: whoa whoa whoa whoa do that.
3 god: gr this dude was great.
smoo: Hey, hey, hey, they used that hey, this hot niggas in Atlanta be man Mike Vic used to be in there with BMF and Jesus. Nigga, what they got to do with
Wills On The Tank: I was just about I you took the words right out of my mouth.
3 god: I
smoo: his with his
3 god: talking about the dude play bro bro what do y'all like what do we
Eric: Bro, some stuff some stuff bigger than football, bro.
smoo: Man, I seen, man, I seen Victor a million in the club. Nigga, okay.
Eric: Some stuff bigger than football. It's bigger than football, bro. I can't it hey, it's like
3 god: We bro, I'm not no, I'm not denying his legacy. I'm saying what like the pedestal you're trying to put him on.
smoo: It's attached to it's t attached to off the field sheet.
3 god: Yeah, it's it's it's
Eric: Of course. Of course. I
2: yeah. I that's what I'm agreeing.
Eric: admit that. I'm
2: I agree with that.
Eric: okay with that. I I do admit that. I'm not, I that's why I'm not arguing against your point when you're talking about stats and how he played. But Michael Vick was responsible, bro, for so much more that other than just football. He changed the whole city. He he this man, man, people saw Michael Vick, kids saw Michael Vick and was like, snap. Like, bro, I can play quarterback.
3 god: Bill, Bill, Bill. That's what I hold on, Bill. My bad, Bill. I'm cutting it off because I ain't getting a chance. I ain't get a chance. I ain't get. Bro, my bad, bro. I'm just like, bro,
Eric: Yeah, go ahead. My bad. Yeah, he he pied, right?
2: Yeah, I was
smoo: That nigga got that that nigga got that pin in his hand.
3 god: once again, you and two would be 100% correct if y'all was talking about the NBA. Nigga, we talking about football. Them niggas don't care about what you niggas talking about, man. Don't they NFL do not care about all what he did for the city. They don't give two fucks.
Eric: Nigga, a go ask people in Atlanta that though.
3 god: That's what I'm trying to tell you, bro. Even the people in the land, the niggas, the black people care. The white folks won't see if we want to win the Super Bowl. They don't care for that.
Eric: Nigga, Atlanta Atlanta is a black city, bro. Where you know?
2: cool, that's why I think that's why I was
3 god: That's all I'm trying to tell you. Y'all, y'all if we were talking about the if
2: saying No, wait, let me talk to you, Dink.
3 god: if the Atlanta Falcons was a basketball team, that nigga, a Michael Vick jersey probably would have been retired before the nigga even left. I'm just be straight up.
Eric: Man, I don't even know. I
smoo: Hey two, you got you got
Eric: don't even
smoo: the last point on this two.
Eric: know. Yeah, go here. I don't know how we got here.
2: That's what I'm saying, I think
3 god: I'm gonna get the arch.
2: I think with bat with football with Atlanta, it although they should, but I don't think Atlanta like a football team for sh like a football network or city, they just Nip Atlanta, we care about them for like 'cause they got the celebrities, they taking they get the forefront for celebrities. And shit, the biggest foot the biggest sport in them is football. So you gotta cater to them. But since you mo once you don't, that's why you got but you got the the celebrities the football, the basketball, NBA W game. Like they showing love Andrew Reese and them too, so but
smoo: Ooh, yeah. But I wanna talk about that.
3 god: We ain't got to but we are gonna talk about that actually. Bro, bro, you keep talking about
2: But you don't
3 god: the NFL don't care for none of that shit, bro.
2: But I'm saying but you shit, NFL don't but the NFL team, the fans, he guys, billionaires, they they do they gotta care
3 god: Who?
2: about the culture.
3 god: Who cares about the culture? Honestly. who give me a gu a guide. I ain't talking about us. I'm talking about
2: When you are in a witness city, when you're in a witness city, you've got to bear by everything that gets you.
3 god: No, that's what I'm saying. The only culture that people care about in the NFL is winning culture. That's why they don't care for Seriani in Philadelphia, although that nigga been to two Super Bowls and they still want that nigga out of there. Nigga, if you nigga, I'm a Cheese fan. We just start winning and I was criticizing Brett V a year or two ago. bro, we in it f football football is one of the only sports that their fans usually don't wear no outside jersey other than a throwback. you're not gonna see Me as a teacher fan, I'm not gonna wear a Atlanta Bijan Robinson jersey. I wear a big jersey, 'cause it's throwback. But when it comes to football, the coach
2: You hardly want it.
3 god: is about the winning and what your team doing. Niggas ain't it ain't individually, bro.
2: Who care who cared about that sea?
3 god: Who care about their city the most? Philly, New York, but that's all together. It's sports. It ain't just like it's because they got the winning culture. It ain't just because, one nigga is just this and that. They had a winning culture. Now New York Knicks ain't won in forever. But that's the difference when I'm talking about basketball. They they
2: But New York is right.
3 god: basketball is different. That's why I say if Vic was a basketball, hell yeah. It would have been all hey, hey, three number sevens probably across the board. But NFL, look how they treat the Giants. Look how they treat New York. Chets. It's like, bro, look, bro, we we trying to win now. Like, ain't all the individuals, they got, they got culture. Nah, bro.
2: Yes.
3 god: Eli man in love because he won. It ain't cause he just paid Matton, the brother.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: Like he won twice. you got to win, bro. Ain't nothing against Vic. Vic a dog, though. But I'm just saying, when it comes to NFL, bro, it's a different story. Y'all arguments for the NBA, I think.
2: Vicka Vicad. But yeah.
Eric: I ain't mad at y'all's perspective.
2: I'm pushing the label that's the label.
3 god: See, they gonna love they gonna love Lamar until he don't lose. till he if he don't get you see how they treat his ass in Baltimore? My daddy stayed mad, like come on man, this nigga hurt again, like come on, come on, come on. But when he win it, it's a different it's a different story.
Eric: Sorry, Mr. Dinkins.
3 god: Shut up, but
2: Yeah.
3 god: But yeah, hey, but yeah, I'm glad you say this. Smooth, since we're on this subject, you brought it up. You brought it, I said you brought it up. You, you, you brought it
smoo: We w we wasn't on the subject. We we've been listening we've been listening to you. We've been listening to you for five minutes.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: up. You brought it up. Bro, what is your argument with with Angel Reese and Caitlin Clark with me? I don't have an argument for you. I need you two sentences. Go. I because I don't understand this shit. He just said we're gonna, he said to bring it up.
smoo: Bro, two. Two.
2: It's not the time for it, bro.
smoo: Two. Bro, have we not been arguing about this shit for like two, three years?
3 god: I'm asking what has been the argument though?
2: Yeah.
smoo: I don't know. If you don't know what the argument is, bro, I think me and two know what the argument is. So why are you but why are you asking that like we haven't been
3 god: asking that's what I'm asking. What's the argument to No you matter of fact
smoo: arguing in a group message for two or three years?
3 god: Ca too, ca smooth, every time somebody hat something happened, it's a different argument.
smoo: It's not.
3 god: Yes, bro. I was looking through our group, man. I'm like, bro, I wonder where this dude gets this shit from. what is he arguing? He said I'm a Caitlin Clark fan. I'm like,
2: Mm.
3 god: when I just said I like Kait. I said, she the biggest person that ever came out of college. I I got messages saying that I'm not a big fan like that. My favorite player was Candace Parker. So
smoo: Okay. Well that's if that's if that's your if that's what you standing on, man.
3 god: man, hey next subject man, that ain't nigga talking about a dude.
smoo: I I I bro, it's me, you and two in this group message that been arguing for two or three years. If you want to sit up here and act like what I'm saying like it's just coming out of nowhere now, I I don't know what to tell you. I don't know what to tell you.
3 god: Jeremiah Smith with number one pick, bro. By far. I've been telling y'all, boy. I don't need to hear nothing else. Number one spot. And for the number one spot.
Eric: I ain't mad at it. I ain't mad at it. if I'm a coach if I'm
3 god: No nigga.
Eric: a GM, he he's typical. So a he's not typical in the sense
3 god: Yeah, correct that. Yeah, correct
smoo: Yeah, but it ain't
3 god: that.
smoo: been a receiver win number one since nineteen ninety six, my boy.
Eric: Yes.
3 god: Rick did.
Eric: Yeah. He not typical in the sense of what he's doing. The man is great. So I'm saying this is what you expect out of a physical specimen like him though. when you see him, this is what you expect. you like, snap bro. yeah, this is what you expect. So that
smoo: I still I I get it. I get it. But I gotta see it against some top ranked competition. They play Indiana this week. So I think that's gonna that's gonna say a lot. That's gonna tell me a lot this week. And of course he's been doing it for the last three, four years. I mean three years now. So but as far as like him being the best receiver ever in college, I mean I gotta
2: yeah.
smoo: I gotta see it aga I gotta see it against some competition week in and week out or I gotta see I gotta see a clutch performance. You know what I'm saying? I just I'm just seeing I'm just seeing fucking r
3 god: I think we had some big games.
smoo: Russell Russell Resbrook stat padding. I ain't seeing no clutch shit. You know what I'm saying? That's what makes to me I gotta see some shit like that. National championship game. Some shit where you put up like Devontae Smith put up 240 Versus Ohio State in a national championship game. And then he didn't
2: Okay.
smoo: even play the second half. You know what I'm saying?
2: Okay, yeah.
smoo: I gotta see some Michael Crabtree fucking the last player of the game type shit. I'm I'm seeing all the shit versus Illinois and Kent State. I'm seeing all of that. He's making great catches, but to be the greatest ever? That's that's crazy.
2: That's what they're saying.
smoo: Yeah, that's what they see. That's what they see. So I wanna I wanna see I want I
3 god: Man, they they they ranking
smoo: wanna see versus Indiana. I wanna see vers Indiana.
3 god: They ranking Jeremiah Smith the top three wide receiver right now.
Eric: Yeah, they go a little bit too far.
smoo: Talking about if he played in the league.
3 god: I'm talking about Jamar Chase,
2: Jamar Chase.
3 god: and then they got him ranked above. Yeah. I don't agree with that
Eric: I go a little too far.
2: GMAS.
smoo: That's crazy. That's crazy.
3 god: shit, but I I don't like I don't like comparing college niggas to
smoo: That's what I'm saying. I think if I just feel like if I seen it against some better competition or I seen some clutch shit, I would agree more, but I just ain't seen it.
3 god: So I got I got a question on you for that. I got a question for you on that. So so y'all know we had our a big argument with Shador, Travis and all them about, you know, them boys are great. But then when we I mentioned competition about them
smoo: Greatest ever, greatest ever. We're not talking about just being great, bro. They saying this nigga is the greatest ever.
3 god: I that nigga doing some shit though, Smooth. So when I'm saying when you say competition, that nigga, when you say competition, I get it. I'm not gonna act like I'm I'm naive to what you're saying. It's just like at the is a is a point of time where like I might be playing somebody that's Right. Like
smoo: You can't control that. You can't control the competition.
3 god: if I'm playing against a 14 year old and it's a close game, they gonna be like, damn, that nigga I'm gonna beat
Wills On The Tank: That's what
3 god: you. So I got to dominate you, because if I don't, I still get scrutinized. So it's kinda like
smoo: Yeah. Yeah, he he can't control that. But like I said, if you look at Ryan Williams, that nigga got way more clutch catches than all them niggas. Way more catches than all them niggas. Now he not doing he not catching that bitch consistently, but it's a clutch factor to Ryan Williams. You can see it week in and
2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
smoo: week out. There's a
3 god: No.
smoo: cut a clutch factor to him. I I ain't seen that in Buddy.
3 god: But that's but is that the thing though? You don't have to he is he that good that he don't put you in no clutch situations? Nigga like shit, I'm a dog.
smoo: No, that that's the competition they
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
2: Yeah.
smoo: playing, bro. That's what I'm saying. That's the competition.
3 god: I g
2: Back.
3 god: I g I I'm I'm not saying I don't get it, but see it, nigga, it's like some like I remember I was arguing copy LeBron, even though I hate the point. It was like, nigga, LeBron don't put me in no clutch situations. We taking care of business. So I mean I
smoo: they lost to they lost to Texas and he got shut down the second half.
3 god: Well you do it first out. Man, ca made their adjustment and double teamed that nigga. They double teamed
smoo: That's my point.
3 god: my nigga. They triple and and Arizona went towards that nigga. Ain't
smoo: That's my point though.
3 god: that I thought they win when the tape went off. That's the same year. You talking about last year?
smoo: They lost this year.
3 god: Nothing load no team busy. I ain't gonna buy I want you to fight you on now. I ain't gonna fight I ain't gonna fight him on that.
Wills On The Tank: And let me get my breath in that year, man.
Eric: Ha ha ha.
smoo: Hey man, it was some crazy games this week too. with with
Eric: Show.
smoo: the Eagles losing like they did, the fucking
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: commanders and giants ending in a tie.
Eric: Falcons Dam Dam.
3 god: I think they failed 'cause that was.
2: Boy y'all seen that James and buddy on the side? Just a tie.
3 god: Time by Donnell
smoo: yeah,
3 god: Moona.
smoo: yeah,
Eric: yeah, buddy was saying, just throw the
smoo: yeah, yeah.
Eric: ball, man. So he's tired of all of this other stuff, just throw ball, man
2: It's like damn.
smoo: Nigga, hey, but he had already been throwing the ball to the nigga. He dropped it.
2: Yeah
3 god: Yeah, I I ain't get that one 'cause that one thing Jamie's gonna do is slay him.
Eric: He's gonna throw the ball, bruh. Damn it's I got a problem.
2: He might he he might run
smoo: Hey,
2: for them motherfucker.
smoo: but see that's a that's another example of a nigga who just throw that bitch, bro. that's what the league care about. Look, man, man, niggas be talking about peace and shit.
3 god: No, Smooth, come on, bro. No. Why you can't you what you mean they
smoo: What do you mean? He had thirty touchdowns and thirty picks in a year.
3 god: No, I'm saying for you saying that the the you don't understand why they scrutinized Arch but then the the comparison of him and Jameis, it ain't like niggas just loving Jameis. He's a third string quarterback.
smoo: Bro, it's not about Jameis, but I'm talking about the fact you niggas will say that Jameis Winston is a better quarterback, and this is not what people saying, but people would care about I'll give you a better comparison. People will say that Baker Mayfield is better than Jalen Hurts, and fuck the efficiency. Niggas want to see that bitch being slung down the field. That's all I'm saying, bro. Like people, that's what the NFL like.
Eric: Hmm.
3 god: I don't I don't I ain't heard that one now. I ain't heard that one.
smoo: I I what you mean? You hit me up last year
3 god: Biker and Jalen.
smoo: and talk about the top ten quarterbacks and you don't see Jalen Hurt's name in there and Baker Mayfield name is in there. Like what
3 god: But ja but but Baker went crazy last year though. He went down there for 5,000 last year.
smoo: Dang, that's my point.
3 god: I'm saying, but he have a lot of interceptions. I'm saying he he was he was accurate in doing shit.
smoo: Bro, go do your research, bro. Go do your research. Baker Mayfield throws a lot of interceptions.
3 god: I said last year, dog. Let's see how the head meeting.
smoo: Hey, so I seen this post on complex.
3 god: Yeah, last year you had eleven. Stopped out. I never bought them last year.
smoo: That's a lot of picks, bro.
3 god: Eleven out of seventeen games? That's not lot. The year he had almost 5,000 yards, he had 16, but that's out of 17 games. 71 completion percentage, four forty, five hundred yards. No, I'm I'm I'm just I'm reading the
smoo: I ain't talking about completion percentage. That's that's a completely different thing.
3 god: stats off now. I'm saying he had forty five hundred, he had forty one touchdowns to sixteen interceptions. And then in two thousand three he had four thousand yards, twenty eight touchdowns, ten interceptions. So Baker been pretty I think that's a fair comparison. I think Jalen Hurts is better, but I'm saying I don't think Baker's the one to be like that nigga trash and you know what I'm saying? Or not trash, but I'm saying to to make your point.
smoo: I ain't say you were trash, I just said I just said throw a lot of picks. I just said throw a lot of picks, bro.
3 god: That's not a lot of picks to me. When you got just the Herbert, like goddamn damn near ten, boy, five or six. No. Nigga got like five right now. I don't know, I just don't think Baker is the I understand what you're saying though. I don't think Baker is the is the example though.
smoo: So they Complex made a list of the best the best rap albums of 2006. Number
Eric: Hmm.
smoo: one was Food and Liquor by Lupe Fiasco. Clips, Hell Have No Fury, T.I. King. Four, DJ Drama and Lil Wayne Dedication 2. Number five, Gee Z Thug Motivation, 102, The Inspiration. The Game, Number Six, Doctor's Advocate. Number seven, Ghost Face Killer, Fish Scale. Number eight, The Roots, Game Theory. Number nine, Gucci Man, Chicken Talk. And number 10, Birdman and Lil Wayne Like Father, Like Son.
3 god: That's it.
Wills On The Tank: That Father Like Son was classic, bruh. Hey, that that
Eric: Crazy.
3 god: Clients.
Wills On The Tank: that that Doctor Advocate was classic too. I I remember when I bought that album. I was so depressed. I had I had failed I was coming out of J C and I had failed some cla I failed a class and I went and bought the game's album right after class. I remember that. Yeah, the the Doctor's Advocate. So I remember just just enjoying that album. So that that was that's like a memory that's ingrained in my mind.
2: That one
Eric: That's the that's the one with the black the black
2: in front of the
Eric: background. Black background.
Wills On The Tank: With the bla he's sitting
smoo: Uh-huh.
Wills On The Tank: on the chrome. He's sitting on the chrome, on the chrome, 'cause
3 god: Crome will.
Wills On The Tank: yeah, because the f the one before that he was sitting on gold. Yeah. That was a great album, man, to me anyway.
Eric: Yep. What background. I think out of out of them albums, man, for me, I think it's either out of King, I think I it's it it's out of King, it's out of the doctor's advocate, or that like Father Son. And out of all of them, I personally like Like Father Son the best.
Wills On The Tank: I was just gonna say that. That Father Like Son, that probably was the best one. And TI, TI had a he had a really he had a really great album that year. But I think that Father Like
Eric: Right.
Wills On The Tank: Son, man, it was just and I'm not saying TI had skips, but that Father Like Son, that was really no skips. You know what I'm saying?
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: Shit, I feel like Gene was no skills.
Wills On The Tank: from the
Eric: Ei, a filha aqui.
Wills On The Tank: it that's what I said. That's what I'm saying. It definitely have no skips.
3 god: easy.
Wills On The Tank: I see I still do. I still do too. but that that Father Like Son, man, I just I I remember going to Birds Music and Miles Point getting that album too. So man, that that was a great album, man. That that was really a good year for music. I ain't I didn't know all that came out that year. That was
smoo: Yeah, two thousand six was crazy.
Wills On The Tank: a that was a good that was a good time right there, man.
Eric: What y'all got? What y'all got?
smoo: Shit. I think food and liquor is up there. I think food and liquor
Eric: yeah, yeah.
smoo: is I think that's out. I don't think
3 god: Mm-hmm.
smoo: that's a a stretch, bro. When you consider, I think, it's like he had a chance to rapper type moment. he came
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: in on that T that Kanye West song. was it Touch the Sky?
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: He came in on Touch the Sky. You know what I'm
3 god: No, you can see it.
smoo: saying? He killed that, then he came out with food and liquor. And shit, man, I feel like he had kick push, he had daydreaming.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah. didn't he have that song with Day with Jill Scott Dream? Dang? You just no you just said that. Okay. Man, I used to love that
smoo: Yeah, right, yeah, yeah. I
Wills On The Tank: song.
smoo: I feel like I feel like Lupe I feel like Lupe just off of just off of the touch the sky moment and then
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: coming with food and liquor shit i i feel like it's it's rightfully so now my my number two would be king
2: Mm-hmm.
smoo: my number two would be king and you got to think about it like bro t i was i mean he was on a crazy run bro and i think king king came
2: So you want to buy
Wills On The Tank: He was on fire, boy. He was on fire.
3 god: I think we're kinda
smoo: out when atl came out am i
Wills On The Tank: So it was the soundtrack. It was supposed to be the soundtrack for that. Yeah.
3 god: Yeah.
2: You ca that's why you can't put that that's why you can't put T out there.
smoo: You said it
Wills On The Tank: Why is it?
2: His drum was crazy. Till crazy and Lupe background isn't necessarily just like thing, just grabbing who was fucking with it, but it was kinda hesitant. And it looked like tiles, like one of the first ones to go from trapped the whole team and shit about this main tree and shit. So you you we naturally gravitate towards Til in another way.
Wills On The Tank: For so
2: We respect you but you know
smoo: So you but you but you you contributed his run to why that album should be number one. The King should be number one.
2: yeah.
Wills On The Tank: 'Cause he was the hardest at the time.
2: Yeah, we talk or we're talking 'cause you know good about players.
smoo: no, I I I I I understand what you're saying. I'm just saying, I think I think I think Lupe, I think Lupe was a breath of breath of fresh air.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
2: for sure, for sure.
smoo: Yeah, I think he was just like a breath of fresh air at the time. Cause I remember like I remember me personally, like I I had fuck with Food and Liquor. It's a few songs on there that of course I ain't heard in a long time, but it was a few songs on there. Like it was like, I mean, he was really, he was like a He was like a tweener between Kanye West and J. Cole. he was somewhere
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: in between the Kendrick's of the world, but he wasn't he wasn't there like he didn't he didn't commercialize backpack rap these boys had commer commercialized backpack
2: Right.
smoo: rap. But I feel like he was a he was a stepping stone in that direction when you talk about, creating the Kendricks and the J. Cole's of the world. I I think I think he don't get credit for that, honestly.
2: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
2: Cool. I say that. I think this would I think that's what Dink point and problem is like I don't I can't give him step can't give him tip but it's like at the same time no he give us us give him credit. Like, well no I've been I've been I've been since by losing this whole time These folks crazy when we compare them to somebody, he dope
smoo: Right, right. But what's funny though? I seen this shit about ludicrous the other day. They said that damn my chick bad verse. They said that's one of the they said that's the worst verse
3 god: They talking about that words and that's the
2: Yeah.
smoo: of all.
Wills On The Tank: Rela Balloons. my goodness. That that whole album and I'm a huge Ludacris fan. Dink no. Dink no. That album
2: my god.
3 god: Hey, hello. Hey.
Wills On The Tank: was trash.
3 god: It's so crazy that they put that out. My homeboy, ca know niggas make fun of me listening to ludicrous, which I don't
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: which I underst which niggas I don't understand how I'm the the nigga that hate ludicrous all of a sudden. But anyway, so them niggas be on the game, my niggas sound and nigga always make fun of you listen to ludicrous. I feel like, balooze and that was way before that that that came out. Yeah, but
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, bruh. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: No.
3 god: you know him and Big Sean, him and Big Sean had beef 'cause of that. Or who was it? Was that Big Sean?
2: Yeah, but
3 god: Yes, s it's a big shot. Somebody had made cause they were talking about he used that yeah, cause they were talking about he stole the n lemonade float and he said that whack shit basically. But
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. Now that
smoo: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: that was that was a horrible album, man.
3 god: But I'm glad I'm glad I'm glad somebody said.
2: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: It was. It is it ain't no way around it.
3 god: What was a horrible album?
Wills On The Tank: That Battle of the Sixes. That's where that out
3 god: Yep.
Wills On The Tank: that's that's where that song came from.
3 god: Come on, bro, you're talking to a Lucas. Of course, I know that. But I'm saying that that
2: N that but that was one
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
2: of the nicest nights I know. It might be horrible.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, that was that was pretty bad. It it's okay, my
3 god: Nah, the the fact it was
Wills On The Tank: bad then.
3 god: it was it wasn't horrible. It but
Wills On The Tank: For ludicrous it was.
3 god: it wasn't hold on, bitch.
Wills On The Tank: It was, because first of all the whole original concept got messed up. It was supposed to be him and Shauna. Yeah.
3 god: That's what I about to say. It was because of it was supposed cos of the concept. 'Cause cause he has some some bangers on that bitch though. 'Cause to be hey,
Wills On The Tank: He did, he did. He had some stuff on there but it was
3 god: you the re and you calling it horrible. The nigga had got like I think three platinum hits off that bitch. Like not not time accumulated platinum hits either. I'm talking about like, you know,
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah. For that time period.
3 god: in qu like how low can you go, my chick bag
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: and
smoo: Damn William Wright.
Wills On The Tank: I told you, man, that that was not a great for for Ludacris, for Ludacris,
2: This was
3 god: Nah, it wasn't no great it wasn't great, but
Wills On The Tank: for what he was doing leading up to that point, and that it wasn't that it wasn't it was like it was it let you down, you know what I'm saying? Even even
3 god: See.
Wills On The Tank: I would even argue his his his DTP album that he did, yeah, I don't know if you remember Dick that Against the Grain album. You remember that album?
3 god: No, hold on, let me get this point out first. Let me get this point. I don't want because I don't wanna go too far, cause we talking about the best rap albums of 2006, right? And I be goddamn that that's it. My point, like two just said, Ludacris don't get no fucking love. Because that nigga got grandma a rap album of the year that year. So how the fuck he not even on the Yes.
smoo: But how long, but is it but yeah, but but
Wills On The Tank: But for release therapy, that was a great album.
smoo: but how long? But how long? Was it released in two thousand five and then won the Grammy in two thousand six? That's different.
3 god: No, I think that bitch was releasing September. I think that bitch Cause that bitch that I think
Wills On The Tank: Wait a minute. father, son dropped in O six? Wait a minute now. Hold on.
smoo: A comparative?
3 god: that bitch was in in contention with with King and Food and Liquor. I remember that shit like it yesterday. And that nigga had hits on that bitch.
smoo: Hold on, let me see. Ludacris. Little crate.
Wills On The Tank: That War with God song was cool. That song was hard. He had that song with Jeezy. He had that song with Jeezy. Grew up and screw up.
3 god: What with God, the nigga had he had runaway love.
smoo: You right, Dee. Hey, hey, you right, Dee.
3 god: You talking to the number one ludicrous fan. That's
2: Hello.
3 god: what I've been trying to tell people, bro.
smoo: Hey hold on, hold on. This bitch this
2: I know bro.
smoo: bitch was released January first, two thousand so this was the first album of two
3 god: That nigga beat all kinda qualifications.
Eric: Well we started off terrible.
smoo: Hey, hey, and on and on on this, damn Dean, you got runaway love. You got war with God, you got grew up a screw up.
Wills On The Tank: He had some stuff in there. Yeah. Yeah, where we got money maker. Grew
3 god: You got hits. You got moneymaker?
Wills On The Tank: up and screw up with Jeezy.
3 god: Hey look bro, that's what I'm trying to t
Eric: Well, pop cash in the
3 god: Bro, that's what I'm trying to Bro, hold on T Wheels T Wheels, this
Wills On The Tank: hold on, I feel like slappin' a nigger today, slap slap, slappin' a nigger today.
2: Yeah.
smoo: Yep. Slap on here too. Yep. Damn.
3 god: what I was trying to say when we had the ludicrous shit. Nah, Bill, that was That's red light bitch. Yeah, get your ass on. Get the fuck on.
Eric: Did they have blueberry? Yum, yum. I kinda okay.
smoo: Not Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: That's red light district. That that was that was way before that.
Eric: I I'm I'm I'm I'm trying to give him one. I'm trying to give him one.
Wills On The Tank: That was way before that. That
3 god: Hey, hold
Wills On The Tank: was pimpin' over the world. They came out that.
3 god: hold on, hold on, hold on, T Wheel. Hold on, cause this my time to shine. Cause I'm that's why this the shit that I'm talking about from all them haters that was on TikTok,
Wills On The Tank: Michelle.
3 god: TikTok, Instagram, all that shit saying that I'm tripping, bro. Ludicrous did not do not have no classic street hits. That album did better than King. It did better than I think it did better than Root's album. That and that bitch ran and that's and I Actually, that's when Ludacris was hot because he just came off the remixes of I'm so hood and what's the other day? No. So Nick Nick
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, just cut his hair.
3 god: was hot, hot, and now we
smoo: That's crazy.
3 god: look back and the nigga not even ranked top 10. So that's what I be saying, bro. I'm like, bro, I know I'm not
Wills On The Tank: Now he
3 god: fucking tripping.
Wills On The Tank: he got some time to stuff on that album to me now. I'll say that without a doubt.
3 god: No, T Wheels,
smoo: Nigga, I used to listen to
3 god: he do not.
smoo: I used to listen to War with God. I used to listen to War With God every
Wills On The Tank: No, that runaway love, come on now.
3 god: No, I'm saying compared to our culture
smoo: game, every high school game.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, that that word of God is nice.
smoo: Nigga, I used to listen to War with God. Cause that was like my first time against some PT and that shit come on. Your time has come. I'm like, let's go, let's go.
3 god: That's gone. Come on, man. bro, in this bro, every nigga in this bitch but two said I was tripping. How when the evidence is right here?
smoo: Nigga, I still think you tripping. Nigga, because we talking about now what you talking about for this year, that does make a lot of sense. But we talking
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: about him being classic in his whole career. Him having timeless music. That's what the that's what the conversation was about, timeless music.
3 god: No, no, no, no, no, no, no. We said we said culture. No, no, no, no. We said culture. No. We specifically said culture classics. And we said hell, I said, hell no, he don't, cause niggas don't listen to ludicrous. I was the only nigga for 30
smoo: Right. I still disagree with that.
3 god: Nigga prove it's in the the nigga ran ran one rap album of the fucking year and he not even in the top ten. Who fucking listening to it? I'm not talking about
smoo: Bro, but that that's still like
3 god: commercials. I'm I'm not talking about y'all keep talking about commercials and and and c and and concerts and and barbecue parties. I'm talking about if all how many of us five us is in this bitch and say, hey bro, play, play some ludicrous. Ain't nobody in here gonna look at me.
smoo: But okay, so watch this, Dean. Okay, so watch this, Dean. I'ma help you out, bro. I'm gonna help you out with cause he should be on this list. But nigga, hold
3 god: He should be number one.
smoo: on, Dean, hold on, but nigga, I ain't listened to food and liquor since that shit came out. I ain't listened to clips, hell have no fury since that bitch came out. I listen to
3 god: I agree with you.
smoo: King here and there. Dedication. I don't listen to that. So but I'm just saying.
3 god: you tripping.
Wills On The Tank: Hold on, when it said dedication, which one? Was it one or two? I was I still listen to that every once in a while.
3 god: Dedication two.
smoo: Dedication two. Dedication two. I listened to the inspiration a little bit, but I'm just saying, it's a lot of shit on here that niggas ho which one of these albums y'all niggas listening to this today? That was the that's what was the
3 god: No, no, no, that wasn't my that wasn't my point. I was saying, no, yo,
smoo: conversation.
3 god: no, the conversation was culturally classics. Niggas would still no, hello, let me finish. Let me let me finish. Let me finish. Niggas
smoo: Nigga, here go the culture classic, and who listening to him?
3 god: to this day will bump King right now. Niggas to this day not gonna bump no how low can you go? Like we would listen to what you what you what you know
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: about that. Would y'all not getting around be shit, I can listen to what you know about that. I'm not saying it's getting
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, that's
3 god: played like when it first came out. I'm talking about if it's just I'm like, shit, that was my shit. Niggas ain't about to go back and remember and say, Man, play that hollow can you go? Niggas don't he don't have no Okay.
smoo: That's true, but bro, it's he got a whole bunch of other shit that niggas
Wills On The Tank: Snap.
smoo: like niggas gonna go back and play. Diamond in the back.
3 god: Yeah, commercial commercially. We said culturally. Culturally. Culturally. I if if Lucas got a culture hit, it may be I don't know, too. What you think he nigga just be like, yeah, that that that and I'm not talking about, yeah, that that ludicrous well what's your fantasy? I'm talking about like, hey lad, bro, hit that what that shit it. Like w who does what song can you think of off the top of your dome right now? That you could just be with your partners and be like, shit.
2: Slap
3 god: And niggas ain't even playing that!
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. Hey, I'm gonna tell y'all what I see that's on here, what I thought would, even though they didn't that dog on Boosie, that from O six, if we talking about No, Lit no, I'm talking bruh,
smoo: Nah, hey on.
2: What
3 god: You might
Wills On The Tank: Boosie had people that people was arguing that he was better than Lil Wayne. like Boosie had people
3 god: nigga. Just like
Wills On The Tank: in the chokehold.
3 god: no nigga, just like Bill, only people that arguing for Victor to retire is Atlanta niggas. Ain't nobody in that fair arrogant. That's the Louisiana people, bro.
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: That's it.
Eric: I think yeah, for no I Willio, I definitely see what you're saying though. I think that
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: course I use you with an example.
Eric: you talking about mainstream, you you can't you I think you can't compare Boosie album to T I King. Like it's just
Wills On The Tank: No, you definitely can't. You definitely can't. But you would have thought certain way man, the people on coat in the coast, you couldn't tell them that he was not the best rapper of the century at that time. Like pe
Eric: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Niggas in Atlanta l niggas in Atlanta said the same thing about T I and niggas niggas all around the world were saying that about T I at the time though.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, I guess you're right. I guess you're right.
2: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah. Hey Rick Ross had a good year too that year with that album he dropped.
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: Hey,
smoo: That's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
3 god: another point too, them niggas from Atlanta that I put in a group message, them niggas didn't they cut ludicrous. They cut the nigga. And ludicrous is a staple in Atlanta.
smoo: That don't surprise that that don't surprise me though, bro. That don't surprise me. They don't care about Jeezy.
3 god: No, I'm just saying Nah, they
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, that's and that's absolutely
3 god: they kept Deezy. They kept Deezy.
Wills On The Tank: it's now that's ludicrous.
smoo: No, but I'm just saying though, but I'm just saying though, bro, they they care more about Gucci
Eric: It is really cool.
smoo: than Jeezy. Or they
Wills On The Tank: That's ludicrous.
smoo: care more about future than Jay-Z. that's just Atlanta, bro.
3 god: I I can't say that. I think fifty
smoo: Luta ain't gonna get at Lula ain't gonna get that love like that. That nigga that nigga doing Fast and Furious movies and his name Tyler or some shit. What's that nigga name?
3 god: T is
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: And that's another thing. That's
3 god: I love it
smoo: another thing, bro. I don't want to what's up?
Wills On The Tank: And S Snoop had a g had a solid album that year too.
smoo: That's what I'm saying. And that's that's what I'm saying, bro. I don't wanna I don't wanna stay on this topic long, but bro, he's so detached from music. you have to be in this shit to get the love, bro. And he's not he's not in it, d but they don't take away from his but they don't take away
3 god: I I I agree I agree with you. I'm that's my point.
smoo: from the music though. He just ain't in this shit to get the the fake love per se.
3 god: He ain't gonna get the I my only argument was culture hits. He has platinum out of platinums. He's a fucking genius, bro. I was answering a question about culture hits. Culture. Culture hits.
Wills On The Tank: Definitely yes, definitely is.
smoo: Nigga, I nigga, I Ludacris, Ludacris is a fucking legend to me.
3 god: Yeah, I yeah, they think about it
Wills On The Tank: He he not gonna get his just due until God forbid something happens to him.
smoo: think nothing's nothing gotta happen to him. I think it just I think it just
3 god: I don't think I think he's solidified already.
smoo: it just gotta it gotta that time just gotta come for the lifetime achievement award he gonna get it just too
2: Yeah. Yeah, he
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
2: he ain't like in where he is now.
3 god: He could I ain't gonna lie though, he could left the other song alone with that band. it's just
Wills On The Tank: What's on?
smoo: Niggas thought he was coming back. That nigga seen tip.
2: That's my
smoo: That nigga seen tip on his way back. Yeah,
3 god: Yeah, yeah.
smoo: let me he
Wills On The Tank: What song y'all talking about? What song y'all talking
smoo: finna he he just
3 god: I forgot the name of
smoo: dropped a song about six months ago. huh.
Wills On The Tank: okay, okay, okay. yeah
3 god: Body like
Wills On The Tank: yeah okay okay yeah okay.
3 god: Mega Skirt with garbage, man.
smoo: Hey, but see that's really the bad thing about Luda, bro. Luda still he still rap it's two thousand five.
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: that shit crazy. That
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: shit crazy.
3 god: I will tell you this though T Will.
Wills On The Tank: So y y'all think he sound dated then? Is that what you're saying for the most part? He sounds dated?
smoo: Leggo.
3 god: Nah, Lucre Luca is definitely dated. He he dated. He my nigga for life, but he definitely dated. I tell you this though, T Will. That battle of the sexes, how bad you said it was? Too you muted. I see you talking, I ain't know if you ain't talking no you. But you know how you say how bad battle the sexes was, T Wheel? That bit was better than corner seat.
2: that hard things are word.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm. That's arguable in my opinion. Hell no, that that caught
3 god: Agora.
Eric: Yeah, call it.
Wills On The Tank: a six, man. It was it was it was decent to me.
Eric: I heard Wayne was working on the car to seven and I just logged off. I logged off. I'm like, no, Wayne. And Wayne, Wayne, let's not, let's
3 god: I said hey I like man na just hey just take a breather
Eric: not I don't wanna disrespect the legend. I wanna disrespect the legend, but Wayne, I
smoo: Birdman Come tie this nigga contract up again.
Eric: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: That's crazy. That's absolutely insane. That's ludicrous.
Eric: Take the mic away from Wayne.
smoo: Put this nigga in litigation.
Eric: Take the mic away from Wayne.
smoo: Yeah.
Eric: And we let's start this shit over or something. Don't call that bitch corner.
smoo: Ha ha
3 god: Let that let that corner sit here, 'cause you just you ain't you l hey, you the kind of fucked us up with that.
Wills On The Tank: tell y'all something interesting I heard David Banner say about Lil Wayne.
smoo: What's up with David Banner doing all this damn skipping and jump roping? Nah, you got it, Willio.
3 god: I seen it, I ain't seen it. What's going on?
Wills On The Tank: He said he said he did say something interesting about Lil Wayne. He said he he he's this may this may have been not an interview not too long ago, maybe a year or two ago. But he said he would love to get in the studio with Wayne, but he said, I think in so many words he was trying to say, Wayne needs guidance. He didn't say it like that, but I think he was trying to say in so many words, Wayne needs guidance with his direction and music. He was like when Wayne was younger, he it basic he basically made it seem like, he had people over him telling him, or guiding his, how he how he, did his music. But he said, now, but where he's successful. And again, he was shouting him out at the same time, but he was like, because he is where he is, you can't really tell him nothing. You know what I'm saying? So he makes the kind of music that he makes. And I I thought that was interesting because, may maybe if And I do hear a what a lot of people say about Lil Wayne and stuff. Maybe if he did take a little direction from, from other people, maybe he he probably would get a a different reaction than what people are giving. I th I think so. I I it may what h I
3 god: No bro. Nah.
2: Nah, bro. Nah.
Wills On The Tank: wish I could we have to find that interview, but what David Banner was saying, it made sense though. It really did.
2: You said, hey, man, nah, bro, nah.
Wills On The Tank: But hello, we're not gonna talk we're not gonna act like David Banner's not a factor in music.
Eric: Yeah.
2: We're like.
smoo: What kinda factor? What kind of factor are you talking about?
3 god: blah blah.
Wills On The Tank: Hold on, what?
2: So so
Wills On The Tank: Hold on, cause it th they were better than he done gave people hits. He done like he's a he he like he like Huh?
2: Whoa whoa whoa whatever
3 god: When you think that
2: though. We're talking about we're probably banner. Mm-mm.
smoo: Too your your your your internet skipping.
3 god: Esc is
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. It's coming in out, yeah.
3 god: See
Wills On The Tank: Saying when
smoo: I don't know.
Wills On The Tank: we talk because the other reason why I brought up David Banner is because sometimes
smoo: Take out the take out the mic too. Take out the take off
3 god: It is it.
smoo: the headphones and just use the computer.
3 god: I don't believe
smoo: Yeah, unplug it.
3 god: they'd be
Eric: Yeah, look at it
3 god: Let me let me speak on why he doing them at T
2: Bye.
3 god: Wheels this shit. T Wheel.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: Bro, I'm saying you keep saying like the reason I disagree with the David Banner shit, I mean like even if he get direction, like w nigga, that nigga like forty plus. And so it ain't like it what direction? Like what what what I mean, cause you got hold on, hold on. Let me pin Hold on, let me
Wills On The Tank: It's like it's like a different perspective out of
3 god: Let me find my question. Let me film my question for you can answer for I can well feel like I got the proper answer from you. Or the right not the
Wills On The Tank: go ahead. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
3 god: right answer, but just you answer what I'm saying. T I just dropped the album.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: it did okay. But if it wasn't for that one song, don't I th bro, people really don't give a fuck. Really if you ain't Jay Z and T I Jay Z and Wayne now, cause people still even though we scrutinize it down, they still give a fuck about him. 'Cause you still
Wills On The Tank: Right.
3 god: you looking for his punch lines. And I feel like if Wayne went away from punch lines now, too many people won't give a hell. they'll listen to it 'cause it's Wayne, but after they realize that it he going that route, I'm like, okay. Does it not is it
smoo: So let's talk about this real quick. Let's talk about this real quick because I seen of course of course we we all we we've we've touched on these topics about music declining. But what what is y'all personal opinion on why music is declining, rap music specifically. I just seen that miss Miss Rachel, Miss Rachel has outsold like the game, TI, all these niggas. Miss Rachel sold 29,000 copies.
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: And the rapper's first week ain't even close to that. So w what do y'all personally think is missing in rap right now?
Wills On The Tank: I heard Ray Daniels make an interesting point. He said he and I I kinda kinda agree with it. Yeah, he said, streaming is overshadowing hip hop where and it also
smoo: he said this shadow ban. He said rap is being shadow ban or something of that nature.
Wills On The Tank: Ye yeah. And and it may be a thing and he he also made a and I actually kinda agree with this. he said it may be a thing where people they they're they just not putting money behind it, which I th I think that could be a thing too. it ain't once at once upon a time like rappers were really like seen as like cool. Like and I'm not saying that they still not that that they're not, but it's it's like that that factor over them is not the same as it used to be. Like so I I think, you know
smoo: Over you know what? I think I personally feel like I just based off of what you just said, I think I know what the answer is. It might be overly exposed. Like every rappers are so
Wills On The Tank: Sean Cotton said the same thing.
smoo: overly exposed. And I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna give you a prime example. Your boy Akeem Ali. You know, he used to be kind of mysterious, and now that he's been promoting his album and he's going on these podcasts, he's been getting crucified. if you go look at some of these social media sites, he just did
Wills On The Tank: Maybe.
smoo: this interview with poor minds and like I'm talking about people are trying to cancel him already.
Wills On The Tank: Wow.
3 god: What did he say? They made them whatever.
smoo: I I don't know. I seen some certain clips where it's just like women, it's just the women and men shit. Well, a guy might like, I ain't going 50 50. You know what I'm saying? And women
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: my God, he's one of those. And automatically canceling. You know what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: So I but it's crazy because, he was he was behind the scenes not even six months ago. And now that he started gets he started getting the fame. And people get to see who you quote unquote are, it's like, nah, we cool on you.
Eric: Yeah. Yeah. No, I I can see that I can see that
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I agree I actually agree with that.
Eric: I man, I think what I think it is, man, personally, Drake and his kind of campaign against UMG, it really showed me a different side of music. how they are able to control, how they are able to manipulate certain things. And from my perspective or my understanding, I really think that there is shadow banning in rap now. But let me tell you this, the catalog are still being sold for high prices. So that's telling me that it's the mu the the it's still valuable. The art is still valuable 'cause they still want the art of it, right? But I think
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
Eric: that they are diminishing the impact that th that it's having on the world. And that I can't tell you why, I can't tell you where that's going, but that's what I think, right? I that's my personal opinion. So shit, I think it's still valuable though, the art 'cause they still buying it.
Wills On The Tank: Right on.
smoo: D, why do you think I I got a I got a question for you. Ride Wave album just dropped. Why did it come and go so fast, it seems like?
3 god: For me personally,
smoo: Yeah.
3 god: it wasn't his it wasn't his best album. It wasn't
smoo: How do you how do you determine it? How do you determine it?
3 god: Pain well, I gonna say pain. It depends on who your favorite rabbit is.
smoo: And I'm a s and I want to preface this because I wanna say this because I feel like every artist when you think when you think about somebody like Rod Wave, he has a s a specific process that he follows probably yearly. You know what I'm saying? You go to Jamaica, you go to the Bahamas, you go to fucking Paris, France, you put in the same type of work, you you live life, you go through the same experiences, and then You drop your album, you go on tour, and then fans say, like you just said, nah, how do you how do you determine it?
3 god: It's it's it's just what you feeling. you can do the same process. it Wayne probably felt the same way he'd been doing the same thing and y'all like that shit but you didn't like it. It's just sometimes it just don't hit. It ain't as good as you thought it would be. Your homeboy say this shit great, but then it might not just be it for the masses.
smoo: But do you b but okay, that so that's my question. But do you think it's you?
3 god: It could be
Wills On The Tank: yeah.
3 god: it can be both. It could be both. and let me let me hear let me this is what I'm saying. The reason Drake is so great, cause some way, somehow, because he don't have a formula. That's why we think LeBron's and everybody, people like that, Kobe, all this stuff, great these people great, because of the longevity. And it's like, damn, what do you do to keep the people, entertained? Raw wave, and I know what you're saying, because you like, damn, bro, I hear the same shit, the shit that you love, but you it ain't why you don't like it now? Sometimes some people could get just, now I won't say tired of it, but immune to it. Or just like, you know what, I'm over there. I honestly don't think it's that this that album. I just don't feel the same pain or the same, you know, going in, you know, the the vibe of it as I do the other albums. But to to to be honest, I don't I don't even think his last album didn't. Get me. It was okay. It wasn't the best rod wave, but I was like, All right, cool, one off. Cool. Then they dropped this one. I was like, But I mean I don't know. It just sometimes, you know, it just you just can't yeah, I mean
smoo: I think I think it to me it sounds like to me it sounds like music might not be meeting people where they at in life.
Wills On The Tank: That that might that make sense. That makes sense.
smoo: That's what it sounded like to me. And we could blame, we can blame the labels, we can blame everything. But I think the reason why Drake's still connected, and it's so crazy. Like we it's it's so crazy, like you can't even really make clips out of Drake because it's like, man, you talking about Drake, but
Wills On The Tank: Right. Right.
smoo: but I think it was a redemption story. You know what I'm saying? Like it was a nigga who climbed out the gutter. You know what I'm saying? And
Wills On The Tank: Go to a discipline place.
smoo: they left him for dead. You know what I'm saying? It was something that people can c connect to. Especially
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: if you going through some shit in your life, you know what I'm saying? It's like, okay, nigga, I'm trying to, I'm trying to come out this shit that I'm going through. And you seen him do this. But you can't we're like Rod Wave. Nigga, you can't you keep selling us the same story. You know what I'm
3 god: Right.
smoo: saying? Future, you selling us the same story. Lil' baby. You know what I'm saying? You talking about your ice, nigga. Nigga, it's hard to buy gas right now. You know what I'm saying? where is that nigga that's telling you about d that type of shit? You know what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: And that may be, that may be why music is not rap music is not doing what we think it should be doing, because it's not no
Eric: Hey, but look, I saw Y La album got nominated for
smoo: That's a good point.
Eric: a few Grammys. I was like, phew, and it's well deserved, man.
smoo: Because a lot of people connected to the album.
Eric: I that's an album I still listen to. Like that one is heavy in my rotation still. And yeah, I think that good albums, good music, to your point, Smooth, you're right. I think when I think about the music that connect with me, it ain't the fact that it ain't music is coming and going, it's just it ain't connecting.
smoo: Right. that's in that that was my point
Wills On The Tank: Right. Even with Jigger with
smoo: to Dink. That was my point to Dink. Is like, damn, how the fuck, how the fuck you like Rod Wave, he's still rapping about the same thing, but at the same time, Dink, you could be growing up and realizing man, nigga, nigga, I don't know
3 god: Well, I don't think it's a I don't think it's a growing up. I think it's more of the
smoo: Not growing up, not growing up. that's the wrong word. Not growing up.
3 god: Yeah, I know what you mean to say.
smoo: But you just in a different stage of your life.
3 god: Well, I don't even think it's that. I really don't believe it's that. Cause if Wayne dropped that's why I was telling that's what I used to tell Sm Bill about I don't really think it's care what people talking about if the song is good. But if you ain't go if your song ain't gonna be good, then people gonna be looking for what you're talking about. With Rod
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: Wave, I think it was a sense of familiarity. Right? That's a word, right? Yeah, familiarity. Just
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: it's nothing different. So i i then also it's like Man, this crazy, right? And I don't really want to say this online 'cause it's supposed to be s sacred. Not sacred, but anyway. So it's just like I'm in in a in a group of guys, right? And, you know, we go, you know, everybody talk to each other, for example, talk to each other about what's going on. You got in the prayer request. And In all in your heart, you like, okay, yeah, man, let's pray about you about that. Let's help you get your job. blah, blah, blah, blah. All right. So then two weeks later, yeah, man, pray I need a job. Okay, all right, pay, pay, pay, pray, pray, pray, pray. Third week, you're like, Yeah, I'm trying to, Eventually it's gonna be like, We love you now, but what the fuck you doing? You see what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: It's the same old, same old, even though we love you, but it's like, yeah, I know we're praying for you, but some what
smoo: Nigga, how many prayers do you need? Nigga, please go for me.
3 god: Yeah, and
Wills On The Tank: Right. But see, but see, but see this this is a
3 god: it it right. Like it's a sense of fem familiarity is just like it's the same thing, like I it, like like with and I don't know if that's a good example, but it's just the fact that Rob Way like you've been hurt for you know, yeah, got your prayer but
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
3 god: let all right, now I need to hear some some that's why that one song was different than H D four, what was the name song? 'cause it with different tones, shit, bitch the up tempo is like I ain't something different. But you got the same
Wills On The Tank: But see
3 god: thing, it's kinda like, I yeah, I get it, I love it, but I ain't loving it. You see what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: It's a catch twenty two though with that with that though. And I and I and I definitely feel what you're saying. But you have rap fans that say, Man, hi it's it's like a it's like a familiar thing. And the same thing why they love you could be the same reason why they hate you. But if you give them something different, they may come back and say, Man, I I I just missed that. you know what I'm saying? Like like rap fans are notorious for doing that. Like The same reason why we hate Wayne is the same reason why we love him right now. And I'm not talking about hate him. I'm just saying why we why a lot of people criticize the music.
3 god: Why why is it hate? No.
Wills On The Tank: Because they say he don't talk about. Because he don't talk about nothing. But if
smoo: That's what that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. Right.
Wills On The Tank: he started talking about something, if he went super deep and went conscious, I guarantee you people will be like, Man, that was good, but I wish he just go back to that old Wayne where he just had the crazy punch lines. it like we do that type of stuff in music. All the time. We just did it with J. Cole.
3 god: He will. T will by but
smoo: Thank you.
3 god: so I think that's that catch twenty-two is what niggas need though. Because
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: Smooth saying, when you do something different, it still gives us something to talk about. And even
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: if now, if you like if Raw Wade go back to talking about some happy shit, we're gonna listen to it because we're a Raw Wave fan, but we like, damn, we're gonna miss that old way. But as soon as he dropped that old way. It's like, shit, way back niggas talking about it again. So it's still the fact that it's something different, which
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: you like, I might get niggas hating on me, but it's still something different. You see what I'm saying?
smoo: Right.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: And I guess this a this a this a interesting little topic that I had ran across that kind of plays all into this. Can you really suffer from success?
Wills On The Tank: I think you can, for sure.
3 god: I want the pain. Hurt me, Pa
Eric: Hey, hey. That's perspective, bro. That's perspective.
Wills On The Tank: I think it can. 'Cause some
smoo: And it's it's
Wills On The Tank: pe s
smoo: it's this thing called good heart's law and it says when a measure becomes the target, the the target ceases to exist.
Eric: What does that mean? The measure becomes the target, the target cease to exist. And the measure becomes the target. The target cease to
smoo: Hold on, let me let me let me hold on. Let me let me do this real quick. Cause I I did some I did some damn research on this shit. Hold on, hold on real quick.
3 god: The target say it again? Well we can get
smoo: Hold on, I got I did some real research on the shit. Hold on.
Eric: The target ceased to exist.
smoo: Hello, I know. See, hold on. Okay, all right, I said it wrong. It's called Good Heart's Law. When winning becomes the problem. Good heart's law is commonly summarized as when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.
Eric: When the measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure. Because that's that's limiting you ac I mean for the way I think about it. If a measure if I
smoo: Well, nah it's I think basically what it's saying is if you looking at if you're looking at success as a target, when you get there, what you thought was supposed to be there, now you on to a new target.
Wills On The Tank: Mm.
smoo: What you was thinking about, now you move on from it.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: Read it again. What's the what's it called? What's the what's the quote?
smoo: It says Goodhart's Law is commonly summarized as when a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.
3 god: I took it I I may be totally wrong, but I took it as when you try to if your if your target here now you're measuring yourself up to that, that's when it seizes. Like say
smoo: Well, that's what I'm saying. So you get there and then you realize that hey, this is not what I thought it's gonna be. So you create another target, which is why you can suffer from success.
3 god: No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. I thought I I thought it was something different far as even when you don't reach that if you don't reach that if that measure is a thing, I can't even remember what you said, but I thought if you felt like you didn't reach that, that target, you So you are reaching it. Okay. I thought it was something else.
smoo: No, you reached it. You reach a target. You reach your target. Yeah. You reach a target. And then you get to this target and you realize shit.
Eric: Yeah, if I'm a like if I'm a therapist, if I'm working with a if I'm treating a client and this I do a pre assessment screening on depression. And let's say if that depression screen is hit a five, and I'm trying to get that mug up to a 10. So if I focus solely on getting their treatment up to a 10, and we actually hit this measure and getting it up to a 10, but then I actually we hit it and then be like, damn, but did is this person actually improving mentally? Are they building relationships?
smoo: There you go.
Eric: Are they are they are they are they are they do
smoo: There you go.
Eric: they have healthy coping skills? Like you missing everything else around it. So I think that's what you're trying to say, and and if
smoo: Mm-hmm.
Eric: If I can understand it in that terms, then yes, you can very much well, very well much suffer from success. Because you done focused on one thing so much that you miss all the other greatness outside of it.
Wills On The Tank: You know who I think about in this case? Michael Jackson. they said
Eric: Cream.
Wills On The Tank: when he when he came out when he hit when he came out with thriller, it did so well that when him and Quincy Jones went back into the studio to create bad, and he said Michael Jackson like had like a goal on the wall to hit like a hundred and something million records, like basically to surpass to surpass thriller. Now He didn't surpass thriller at that time. And Quincy, in so many words, was saying, like, you know, he was kind of like a little down on himself. But he said he had to like kinda he was trying to explain to him, like, man, what you did on thriller is just like insane. And he said, When what you did on this album, like that's that's like accomplishments most people don't even like see. But he said he was so focused on surpassing thriller that he he he missed all the greatness that was around, and not to mention He didn't get no Grammys for the bad album. Like when previously he he walked away with like 12 Grammys in one night. In fact, it was either eight to twelve Grammys in one night. Then he came back the next year, got invited back to the Grammys. And even though he was doing his singing, singing dance and, you know, amazing with the spins and, you know, falling on the floor to his knees and stuff, he got no Grammys that night. And so And that was a a a phenomenal album, but he missed they he basically missed I don't want to say because I wasn't Michael Jackson or I wasn't in his brain, but in so many words, Quincy Jones was saying he kinda ignored everything else that was around the great things that was around that album because he was so focused on trying to beat Thriller. Which
smoo: Mm-hmm.
Eric: Okay.
Wills On The Tank: of course he never beat Thriller.
smoo: Right. And I kinda got from all of this is like success can become the trap when you when everything like you originally pursued like for your freedom like starts controlling you. You know what I'm saying? So like everything that we after, you know, all of this shit that we after, you finally get it and then like are you in pursuit of that those things and then those things like actually start controlling you and you don't got the freedom that you thought you you
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: know you was trying to attain in a sense.
Wills On The Tank: So now you worse off before you made it. That kind of sounds like that story. I want to say Kurt Cobain's story. he he had this amazing talent and he made it, but then when he made it, he didn't even like fame. He discovered a, which they said may have, drove him to, be hurt himself.
smoo: Right. And i or you think about it you think about it you bought a house and now you now you working
Wills On The Tank: Get the house.
smoo: working to make sure you you know, you stay in the house or you buy the car.
Wills On The Tank: Right.
smoo: You know what I'm saying? All these things that are quote unquote like for your freedom and stuff like that is like you actually kinda become a slave to all of that shit.
Wills On The Tank: So that goes back to like what is enough for you then? That goes that it it all goes back to that every time.
Eric: Ela é brilhante.
smoo: Right. Mm-hmm.
Eric: I'll y'all a personal story. And I know I'm it's probably gonna be my last thing. I gotta do it, man.
smoo: But
Eric: But man, I had my stock market portfolio, me and Willio been talking about it a lot, man. I had hit a certain number that I've been that I've been trying to get. I hit it. I was like, it's I'm about to go get me a role.
Wills On The Tank: Gracias.
Eric: I'm about to go get me a roley, nigga, everything.
smoo: Mm-hmm.
Eric: Man, and I had started just looking at all my finances and stuff and I was like in in some debt. You know what I mean? And I'm sitting there like like I focus so much on that one goal, you know what I mean? So much and I'm like, man, I'm ignoring everything, nigga. don't give a fuck. You know what I mean? And I hit it and then I sit down and look and I'm just like, Man, this shit kinda really equal up because yeah, I got thirty thousand in in NVIDIA and I dunno you know, I'm just like nigga you got Thirty thousand in debt, bruh, what you doing?
smoo: Right.
Eric: And and I was just like, damn. So I had to really sit with myself and just be like, bruh, this is you weren't really successful, my nigga, cause you missed it. 'Cause it was like that's how I felt because all right, for because individually,
smoo: hell no. Okay, okay, okay.
Eric: I don't like credit card debt and stuff like that, like sh like dumb
Wills On The Tank: Man, I thought about that before too. Yeah.
Eric: Dumb date. You know what I mean? that type of debt for me is a no go 'cause I've been there before. And I was just like, Man, this shit kinda s you know what I mean? So that was just a at for me, that's how I felt kinda reading when you heard when you said that smooth.
Wills On The Tank: No, I hey, I know I've I'm gonna tell you something.
3 god: I I
Wills On The Tank: I thought about that before too. The reason why, it's so crazy, bro. You say a lot of stuff, I think. But I but mine's was a little different. Mine was in regards to student loans. I was like, dang, you can have this and that, or even when I call myself got my first placement with my ATM machine. And I was like, man, I'm kinda like, just silently thinking to yourself, man, I'm kinda doing something. But then I was like, Nigga, you still did. Look at all this stupid law that you got. you're not doing anything. You know what I mean? And it but it's but it makes you think, because it it may it made
Eric: Yeah, yeah. Hey, hey, we do the long though specifically, them folk ain't never getting their money back, man. Hey, never getting their money back.
smoo: Yeah, both creeper, though.
Wills On The Tank: me think about like, dang, am I ever gonna get out of this? You know what I mean? Like I like I have.
3 god: No, I ain't I ain't never thought about no stupid loan. Hey, but Smoot,
Eric: That's I ain't I ain't thinking about this too alone, Dick.
3 god: I ain't gonna lie to you. this question really is a good way to not good way, is basically to speak on that rod wave of what you was just talking about, why it came and went. And I was talking about the pain and shit like that and also basically what you were saying, what we were saying, like why I feel like it like it ain't there no more. This this topic is perfect because even like he had songs like fading. And basically he kinda saying the same thing you talking about. It's like hurt to find out this fame shit really some lame shit. You know what I'm
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: saying? he realized that shit, damn, I'm successful, but this shit come with this. Did that I really want this?
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
3 god: And I forgot what other livery he was talking about as far as like, I hate the attention, really got it 'cause I thought of I don't know. But basically the same stuff. that you talking about and I'm just kinda, correlating that to the last subject we just had because I
Wills On The Tank: Right.
3 god: think that's what he's missing from this album. It just ain't that same paint. But in rel retrospect now, to answer your question, yeah, it's just,
smoo: But see, but nah, but see I think okay, so so those songs are on the new album, right? Okay, so that's what I'm saying. So okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
3 god: Mm-hmm. No, Fadin, no, Fadin's on another album. No, Fade, yeah, I'm that's what I'm telling you. his old stuff, you you you felt that. But, not to
smoo: Okay, okay, okay. Right, right, right, right.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: say he had some pain shit on this one too, but it's just like it was more he was it really kinda did something different trying to be like a boss, something I don't know, but it just ain't
smoo: Yeah. Yeah.
Eric: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: That I I I kinda relate stuff to mock it.
smoo: Hold on, he I think D D was finna finish another point.
Wills On The Tank: Okay.
3 god: No, that's pretty much it. My I was gonna say some
smoo: okay, okay.
3 god: other shit. It was another movie that y'all need to check out. because even though this probably kinda it's not against the point, but it's I forgot the name of the movie, but it was like during the Holocaust when they went to war with Germany and and when Hitler finally intruded and dude they wa he was looking it was a dude that saved all these kids, by the train stations. I forgot his I forgot the guy's name. Man, I forgot the name. Winston, I think his name. Something like it may not have been Winston. But anyway, it's just I don't know if this the same subject, but it's just how we look at all our bads, and it's not the same subject, but we do need we can say this though. We look at all our bads before we look at our goods because he saves so many kids from that Holocaust area. I mean
smoo: Air.
3 god: era. I said area. Holocaust area era But he had one of his biggest rescues get dismantled because that was the day that Hitler stroke. I mean stroke that he strike. And so for years, years he was just kinda just kinda hurt because he felt like he didn't get all those kids that one time. And so then it was
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: this TV show that invited him to the place to show and he was in the audience and he got to see that When he was in the audience, they brought up they was talking about the guy that did this and they was like, Hey, can everybody raise their hand that felt like this guy saved their life? And everybody he looked back, everybody was saved by him. So, huh?
Eric: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: So he yeah, he he was down on himself, but he he didn't realize how much impact that he really had. Yeah, yeah. No, it is it actually relates. And
3 god: He really had. You see what I'm saying? That's why I said talk about this. It may not be the same thing we were talking about, but Yeah, so
Wills On The Tank: just to just to kind of piggyback off that, it I also think about because y'all know I always relate stuff to movies according to Dink, but I re I I don't know if y'all ever seen that movie Scarface.
smoo: Not three three minutes left. Three minutes left.
Wills On The Tank: real quick. I don't know if y'all ever seen that movie Scarface, but it it throughout the throughout his journey on that movie. He was basically trying to become this big, huge cocaine dealer. And all he really wanted at the end of the day was just to get out of poverty. But he lost his he he lost his friend, he got a key of cocaine, finally got on, got the girl that he wanted. But at the end, at the end of the movie, you see, you really get to see how miserable he really was in his success. Like he was, when he was at the table, he was coked up and he was like, He was like, basically, is this what my life come to? He's I gotta, he said, I got the girl. I can't even have kids with her because she's so doped up all the time. he was literally complaining about everything that he had in his life. And then on top of that, his sister hated him, his mama hated him. He he came, it was a scene where he came back home. He was trying to give his mom. He's like, Mama, your boy done made it. And mama just brought him down to nothing. cause she was like, She didn't want, she didn't want that for him. You know what I'm saying? He he couldn't see it. So it's like, yeah, he got everything he wanted, but it wasn't what he thought it was. And and it's just this very last point. When people watch that movie, I literally think people missed the whole point of that movie. They always like, I want to be like Scarface. That man was totally miserable. he was miserable. And I'm
Eric: Yeah, sure.
Wills On The Tank: like, how do you not see what yes, he got he got the money, he got this, he got the girl of his dreams, but at the end of the day, he hated that girl he got. He hated his life. He his sister couldn't stand him because he had to kill, the girl the man that she loved. His mama hated him. He he was just messed up at the end. So
3 god: Niggas niggas say they won't go out like Scarface and then he committed suicide, damn near.
Wills On The Tank: And I'm like, what are y'all
Eric: I'm
Wills On The Tank: I'm like what are y'all watching? when I hear people talk about that movie, I'm like, What are
Eric: screaming on that. We ain't we ain't watching the same
Wills On The Tank: y'all watching? We're not watching the same movie 'cause no I don't see how you wanna be like him. He was miserable, but yeah, not to keep rambling.
smoo: I think it's the I think it's I it well it kinda go back to like what what is enough or what is like do you want the temporary love or like do you want the forever? You know what I'm saying? So I think a lot of people watch Scarface and movies like that and like they they see those those moments. Like some people chasing moments. You know what I'm saying? And so
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
smoo: I think that, you know, it depends on the person and you know, shit, maybe how Y your upbringing, your discipline, See,
Eric: Sure.
smoo: some people chase a moment for sure.
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: Phone home, baby.
Eric: Ay, Ben.
Wills On The Tank: Water
3 god: dang, I look, I look, I look. I'm surprised you ain't gonna talk about the Summer Woke.
Eric: Ding, I forgot to tell you, I'm about to log off.
smoo: shit, boop said he had to get off at hour thirty.
Eric: But yeah. Ding but it fit clean as hell, boy. I like I like the fit boy. That bit clean I
3 god: Yeah, we can talk about it. Are you cool? You like that bit, Bill? Bill, you like that bit?
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: Mm-hmm.
Eric: I was looking at you when you were talking dog, I was like, damn, that nigga putting that shit on the back. Yeah.
3 god: You like that bit. sometimes hey, I can get out the cheese element sometime, nigga. You see what I'm saying? Fuck no, nigga. It was It was a bye week. It was a bye week this week, baby. I can't wear the cheese on the bye week.
Eric: Hey, you probably need to do that more often, my boy. Right? What you doing? What you doing right now? You need to do that. You need to let the people see that, man. Alright, I got you, my boy. All
smoo: Yeah.
Eric: right, bro. I just had to let you know, my nigga, that fit fresh, bro.
3 god: Appreciate it. Sorry you failed it week, but you all right.
Eric: Alright y'all man. Still
Wills On The Tank: ÃV Pauha on vuoro.
smoo: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: got them little ass shots though we see All right well. Alright y'all love y'all man
3 god: Hey, Zill don't hear me. I down for him.
smoo: I follow all
Wills On The Tank: Water.
smoo: maybe.
3 god: Yeah, yeah.
