We Ranked Every Beef Album: Iceman, GNX & The Fall Off

smoo: Yo, what it do, man? It's your boy Smooth, aka Mr. Doo What It Do, aka Always On the Move, and this is episode 59 of the Fallin' Home Podcast.

2: What's up? It's your boy two, but never second. Just let the joint die. Gula can never die long before alive. I'll be nowhere like a crinkle. Your baby mom ain't even supposed to single. Damn. Who is he at? Iceman.

smoo: I see it.

2: You see, you see me, man. Iceman. Come on, man. Three, what's happening with you?

3eezy Bih: Hey man, you know who it is? Yeah, it's the boy three guy. Eighty three not the number but the name, nigga. You know I stay keeping it three on the shoulders, man. You heard me? Eighty three not the number but the name. Feel me?

Big Darrell: Yes sir, yes sir, it's your boy Big Darryl. Live from the loft, happy Memorial Day to all the soldiers out there, all the military, everybody who enroll, enlisted, fought for the country. Happy Memorial Day, let's get it.

smoo: Yasovsky, Yasovski.

2: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: Shout out, Barry. That was up, man.

smoo: Yes, sir, man. How y'all boys doing?

Big Darrell: Good good. I'm feeling good

3eezy Bih: Well, we don't mind.

2: Okay, good, man. Feeling good like that, man.

smoo: Where you get the Iceman shirt from?

Big Darrell: That's I'm about to ask too. I'm like, damn, he came with the shirt on, you got that printed up, huh?

2: The ice man. Yeah, nah, yeah, nah, that's a I wish I could show y'all the back, you feel, but come on back.

smoo: Nigga, why you can't?

Big Darrell: UK!

2: Nigga, this is a boom cost and look all some bullshit.

smoo: it ain't an Iceman Iceman real shirt.

2: no my my no Diddy models like it's fucked up. Yeah. I I ain't got a whole

Big Darrell: okay, okay, okay.

2: f I ain't got a whole fit on.

smoo: bad, bad, bad.

Big Darrell: It's the original Iceman shirt though too?

2: Man, man. Somebody ordered me some shit cause they know I'm a Drake fan. Long story

Big Darrell: that's

2: long. Let me see.

smoo: babe.

2: Yeah.

smoo: yeah, that shit hard. That shit hard. You can see it.

2: On the back they say like I say like it it the back harder than the front, for real, for real.

smoo: Right. I mean, if you I'm gonna be honest with you, man.

3eezy Bih: I hate services, bro.

smoo: I was just about to say that, bro.

2: I hate that shit too.

smoo: That shit really be pissing me the fuck off when the best part of the shirt is in the back.

3eezy Bih: How do you think?

smoo: And they just put a logo on that bitch. You know what I'm saying? That shit be pissing me off for real. Right, right.

3eezy Bih: I wouldn't have been backward though. Ugh, I mean

2: Aye bro, I thought about I said damn, well I look lame if I wanna shirt backwards.

3eezy Bih: dear boy, I hate to like

smoo: I mean it's

2: shit.

smoo: the pie. I see that. I th I think anything goes on the pie.

2: All right, well I'm

3eezy Bih: No, you're gonna be lying with what though. No.

2: finna pause it by five seconds. You know?

smoo: Shit, I think anything goes on a pod. For real, for real.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, that's it, that shit crazy. Cause I hate that shirt that we haven't the design on the back. It'd be like, ooh, like, you know, when you pick it up and you realize

smoo: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3eezy Bih: that bitch on the back half of that bit, like, man, what the fuck? And they have that

smoo: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: shit like on his shirt, little logo so like the point

smoo: Real shit.

3eezy Bih: of their beads. So that'd be a backward

smoo: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: for me.

smoo: Yeah, it looked like these boys have made some own some updates. See,

2: Yeah.

smoo: that's even better. That's even better.

3eezy Bih: No, does that make me no cow?

smoo: Yeah, that's even better, bro. You can't even tell that it's on backwards.

2: Well something backwards.

3eezy Bih: I don't know no no. Niggas say

2: Yeah.

smoo: Right.

3eezy Bih: you can't tell if it's on backwards, is that a good or bad thing?

2: I also have a

smoo: How is that a joke, Dink? How is that a joke?

3eezy Bih: Mm-hmm. 'Cause it is a a good thing, it's like all right, good thing, but bad thing is the collar dripping. Like it's just so low from the back that it'll look like it's a regular coll collar. It's

smoo: Ooh

3eezy Bih: not a fool, it's like it's a good thing or bad thing.

smoo: So how you feelin' two? Man, go ahead and get your shit off, bro.

2: I'm wait to you know what I'm saying let it I'm let it simmer man, you know what I mean? I got a lot of shit to say though. I hate I missed it bro.

smoo: Well, I mean, see, that's I mean, I think we the first topic is really like just, you know, how we feeling about it a week later.

2: I feel like I feel better about it bro. And I've I've been saying 'cause it gave time for me to see a process with it. And it gave time s people that like just immediately ran to like not like it. Process it process and they like there's been a lot of backpedaling. It's been a lot of man, he rapp I heard people say like he be having a lot of like rapping like ice spice or like or Just elementary but I'm like, nah, this n this is one of his most rapping shit. Some people don't like it 'cause he rapping too much, you feel me? But he got the other shit for that. I just feel like this is this to me this shit amazing, bro. This shit amazing. Like he he I think he especially this day and age. 'cause I think s I can agree with some people like like the slap slap that he's known for at the beginning of his career. But I don't even think music is the s is in that space of just kiss kitschy. Those fizzle out and those songs fizzle out. But he's I think he has some shit that's gonna last for a lot, a long time. Just even like the damn shit. Like he got a lot of shit that's catchy that's gonna stick that that in two years now is not gonna sound corny or you know what I mean? And the bars, the bars are there. I feel and I think the most thing that I feel it's like I feel I feel it's pain, bro. Like this ain't nothing like they want him to get over it with that bro. He's human. Y'all always say, man, duh or y'all do have that outlet. Y'all can't be vulnerable. Y'all can't no we can't. Cause the moment we do sassy, fucking emotional, like I ain't supposed to have emotions. You know what I'm saying? If I switch it out in hatred or angriness, then I'm a fucking I'm a white in. I'm I'm I'm dumb. I'm you know? But I feel like he he he has every fucking right to feel these ways about these people that he felt like were cool. I don't feel like you gotta be I don't feel like a nigga got as cool as me as me. As me and Dinka, bless you.

smoo: Excuse me.

2: I don't think he gotta be I don't think we gotta be as cool as me and Dink are to just be like, you know what? This seem like I I'm going against him. You know what I mean? So for somebody and all these people are we people people know the like Braun and all these boys or Braun or shit YG. I don't think he even said YG but nigga I I done looked out for you a lot. You know I mean So for you to go the other side, bro, I ain't tell you to take my side. Just sit play the background. I bet when it's by but when I got the gun, I'ma let y'all know how I feel. Shit, 50 seconds, y'all rule still beefing. We still think we niggas don't say no that shit immature. Nah boy, this shit could've killed me. You feel me? This shit could've stopped my projection. This shit could've stopped a lot of shit. But I just wore it. I wore it like a badge of honor down near. And when it's my turn, I made sure that y'all all know how I feel, how I felt. Ain't no doubling back. Ain't no ain't none of that. And shit. The way he boost.

smoo: So so

2: The way you move I see a lot of I see I don't see me handling that no differently, bro. Like you know what I'm saying? Like the b

smoo: Alright, well I'm I'm gonna ask you this. I'm gonna ask you this. Cause I I really don't know the answer to this. So I I want you to answer it because I think you're gonna give a biased answer. How come

2: I'm not.

smoo: How come? You can And I think a I think a biased answer is needed. How come you can have beef with everybody else but clear it up with future? And that's where the problem started.

Big Darrell: Hold on let me answer that too for you answer and why you mad at DJ Khaled why that's my only big thing.

smoo: No nigga, you messed up the whole quest.

Big Darrell: Hold on react it then react to smooth react to smooth No, no, no, no, no, no, no,

2: I guess I'm both.

Big Darrell: let's move reaction so he can clip it, right?

smoo: Right. So how can you how can you have beef with everybody else and you know, have all this pain with everybody else but not clear Well, you clear clear the situation up with future. How how do you clear that situation up with future when this is where the problem begins?

2: I think you gotta know your personnel. I don't think I think him and his future dogs even he even said him him and future that shit made him sick to his stomach. He didn't want that. And like it's like, bro, what? Come on man. Then he I think they needed a conversation. But you know what is man. I think him, 21 and bank or whatever, they they talked about it. They talked about it. And I don't think I don't think he looked at the future, no disrespect the future, but I don't think he looked at him the same. right as like J. Cole. Like bro, you know how this shit can go. I ain't gonna say I I ain't trying to call future slow, but he also like I don't think he Future's just probably like a Willems co Williams or Codigan. Like he he going in doing things and it's like we could talk about bro, you can do it just you heard what future talk about he said, man, I feel disrespect too. Telling the big three, you ain't name me. But it's like bro, you mean a part of the fucking big three. But So we can talk about we had a conversation. Conversation is cool. Just like he said, he tried to talk to Cole about it. He ain't speak. So it's like, damn. What are we doing? Like, okay, you know, you don't even want to talk to me, bro. So if he get on the phone, if I can get you on phone, I feel like most problems can be resolved. We get on the phone. But you you only wanna talk to me, nigga. Or I'm a fill-away. Like, I don't want her. S you could do something to me the same you can do something to me that think or swears can or or they can or you can't, you feel me? I I hold my friends differently, you know what I'm saying? No offense to no anybody but that's how it is, you feel me?

3eezy Bih: His life.

2: That's life. I mean you better but like y I think talking, communication, same nation.

smoo: But what did it say?

2: Friendship.

smoo: No. You got it there.

Big Darrell: I got a question for two. But two, two, do you think what Callie did was worse than what Future did?

2: Yes.

Big Darrell: Okay, okay, so That that now I was just about to ask

3eezy Bih: hey, hey the same with colour do you though? You go for the for the for for the people.

Big Darrell: him what did what did Callie do that was worse than what future did?

2: Stay silent, but every time you got a role, every time you wanna promote you What's the first thing you say? You don't even say the album name. You say Hey Drake on here, y'all y'all come listen. You do the you I'm I'm the promotion for everything which you do, no matter is

smoo: I like what Drake liked.

2: But then with Drake in the corner, you ain't gonna help something. Come on man, nah.

Big Darrell: But what was Khaled supposed to do? Like what can't actually Khaled do? Like he can't rap against nobody. He can't like, I think being silent was the good thing, right? But he ain't for sure ain't say, I'm with Kendrick Lamar. Or he wasn't like LeBron dancing to the songs. Or you know, he wasn't celebrating. He didn't even play raw shit. You know, when Ross dropped, he wasn't saying, this is hard. None of that shit. But.

2: He did.

Big Darrell: What he say?

2: He posted his album.

Big Darrell: Supposed to who album?

2: Worse.

Big Darrell: Rose dropped the album in that time frame?

2: You know, Ross always drop albums, bro. Yeah.

Big Darrell: I didn't, I...

3eezy Bih: But to hold on,

2: I and I don't

3eezy Bih: but too.

2: it's nothing wrong with that. It's just but if you go always use me I give you the the biggest sums and all this you you gotta don't like you being silent bro is is weird because when sometimes you should be

Big Darrell: But now, let me ask you this. Do you think Drake was a bigger help to Future than he was to Khaled? Like, do you think Drake helped Future's career more than he helped Khaled's career?

2: Hm. Yeah. I think I in the beginning

Big Darrell: Okay, okay, that's what I think so too. And so I wanna ask this, so the whole beef started because of future. So the reason Drake got all, he mad at everybody is because of Future. Like he's the head of the snake, essentially. Like Kendrick Lamar did his thing, yeah, but Future is the head of the snake. So why do you forget the head of the snake? Like to me, he should have cut that nigga head off first and let that nigga die, just die out. But why do you think, do you think, okay, and I was talking to one of my partners about this. Do you think Drake is trying to keep those relationships in a lana or trying to like... Cause he likes Alana a lot. Do you think he's trying to amend that relationship like far as Young Thug, 21 Savage, Future. Like, and Future is kind of like the goat of Alana right now. Like he's like the head honcho. Is that why you think Drake is like, keep your enemies closer? Is that a thing?

2: No, I think he just I just think he friends. Yeah, nah. I was wondering I thought

3eezy Bih: Right.

Big Darrell: I ain't trying to zoom in either, that's Is that sad again too?

2: Sue did that shit. I don't think I don't think he I think him and future are friends.

smoo: Two, you keep saying that they fucking friends. That's not true, bro. That's not true.

Big Darrell: I don't think so.

smoo: How do you how how are we here two years later if they friends, bro?

3eezy Bih: I disagree with you, Smole.

2: I don't think s I don't think I don't I don't think future thudos gonna last as

Big Darrell: Yeah. so, so then you think they friends.

2: long. I don't think future titles are gonna last as long.

smoo: You gotta t you gotta say what you what say what you think, Dink.

3eezy Bih: I mean, I I really ain't got no I I'm I'm gonna revert to two because he more he's a bigger Drake fan than I am, so he know the nuance and all that, but far go I'm gonna based on what two saying. It's certain things that certain people can do that certain people can't do to you in your relationship. So for instance, let me let me go with you.

smoo: Brother, brother, brother.

Big Darrell: That's true, but that shouldn't be it.

smoo: look where we at two years later.

3eezy Bih: I know that. I know that. Is it this it's just like a a all right,

2: they go to the point though.

3eezy Bih: look at look at look at Shaq and Kobe. It was a mutual respect. All right. Ten years later, them boys still homeboys. Well, I mean, you know, got RIP to KB. But I'm saying, and don't make me cry 'cause I miss my boy Kobe.

Big Darrell: It's so true that they saying.

3eezy Bih: But I'm saying though, like it's is when you coaching, y'all heard the the term NYP, right? Well NYP mean. No, know your personnel. That goes in life too. So like to what two saying is certain things you that nigga can get away with, but you can't. And so future was more off of y'all keep talking about the head of the snake. It ain't yeah, he he wasn't the head of the snake. He was the cause and effect of stuff, but his intentions, I don't believe, was that. It was like, hey, bro, like two said, was hey, you I'm not part of the three. You did that with 21 Savage. This is how I feel about that. Yeah, my homeboy got on the track, said some shit, but what really did I say that would make it kill the relationship? Now, y'all keep talking about all the stuff that follow up with the people about that. Future may gave them a door, crack the door to be like, shit, this is our time. But I don't think the future left that bitch open on purpose. For everybody, he felt some type of weight, then everybody put in a two pence. It's kinda like how niggas doing JC and Wayne right now.

smoo: All right, so where do we get the We Don't Trust You album from?

3eezy Bih: I mean, like I said, like you know, you know, Charleston, they might have they beat. Let's take me. Like I said, he probably cracked the door open,

Big Darrell: and we still don't trust you, Alvin.

3eezy Bih: but I don't know if he's saying that letting everybody open in. But I this I'm going based on what you said.

smoo: So this but this all but but this all stems from the metro booming situation. Like

3eezy Bih: I'm going

Big Darrell: That's what I'm

3eezy Bih: based off what too

Big Darrell: saying.

3eezy Bih: saying. I'm not saying that it's right or wrong. I'm saying based off what two saying, I

Big Darrell: No, no, no, no,

3eezy Bih: believe it is certain things certain people can do that other people cannot do.

smoo: Right. But

Big Darrell: That's,

smoo: that's what I'm telling you.

Big Darrell: but then what a limit is drawn. I think that's what I'm trying to say. Like for a person like Callie, right? Two said he's mad at Callie cause Callie stayed silent. He didn't choose no sign. He didn't dance.

3eezy Bih: Could could Kylie could let's let's revert it back to sports. That 30 point score on your team, if you're a coach, he gets away with a little bit more than the nigga that's the six or seven man. Kelly is the six man. I hey look, Kelly, me and you been doing this together. We straight. But now, well to me, Khaled didn't do what worse than future. Far as the action. But what happened is when you're talking about the silence is cuz we're supposed to be, you know, cool. And you see, it's just like this. Once you see somebody get jumped, eventually we're gonna be like, hey, bro, look, cuz cool, relax. Like, you know what I'm saying? It ain't that serious something. Calling did nothing. Like, that's what I'm saying. And this nigga done put money in your pocket. You know, we're supposed to be this. We we are cool. Any like I know we ain't future Drake, but shit. We we cool and although you may be cool with everybody else, you supposed to be like I told you with the running back for the Eagles. What's his name? Shader McCoy. A lot of people don't like Uncho, and that's his homeboy. But when they talk to bad about Uncho, he don't he don't go in and he don't stay silent. Like, hey bro, I don't know why y'all dislike my boy, my boy, cool. But hey, if that's what y'all got going, that's what y'all got going. And I feel like that's something simple easy that kind of could be. Hey bro. Y'all lay out cuz. I know y'all got your B, but hey, we all cool. And if they still disagree with Khaled, like shit, well shit, Drake, I try. Then guess what? I'm not mentioning your name. That's that's the me though.

2: Yeah. And it I but look,

Big Darrell: See, I don't have,

2: and it's not like

Big Darrell: I'm not mad at Drake for being mad at Cali. What I'm saying is, he need to be mad at all them niggas. Like, at Future too. But even

3eezy Bih: I I felt like it's I feel like that's the whole album.

2: It was. Yeah.

Big Darrell: during the beat, the nigga ain't really saying nothing about Future. He ain't really, he ain't take enough shots at future. Like he didn't say that nigga dead beat dad, the nigga don't like take care of his kids. That nigga supposed to went crazy on that nigga, bruh. That's what I think. That nigga say me and future ain't really been through it. I'm thinking that nigga should've.

3eezy Bih: Can I ask y'all this? What what future really say though? Other than that we we don't trust you. I know that's a

smoo: We don't gotta we don't go down gotta go down this route again. Yeah,

Big Darrell: Right, right, right, right.

smoo: we done already had these conversations, but I think the I think the bottom line is I mean that's that's where it started. That's where it stemmed from. Kendrick, Drake diss Kendrick on Future Song years ago on shit. Then you come back years later, he get on like that. And then I mean, here we are. I mean, I just don't I just don't

Big Darrell: And then, then, then smooth, check this out. And then it's like, nigga, you cleared this shit? I'm your dog? You ain't even let me hear it?

smoo: Yeah, I just don't I just don't I I just don't understand how I just don't understand how we we keep saying they freed. I I don't I just don't I I just I don't know I don't I don't get that part.

Big Darrell: I don't understand that either, Smooth. That's what I'm saying. Them niggas not day ones.

3eezy Bih: I I'm not let's get something clear. I'm not saying that they friends. I I mean I think they are, but my argument is with two.

smoo: Well, I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is. I don't know why, you know, that's just my personal thing. I don't know why Future has this grace, you know, in Drake. I mean,

Big Darrell: Maybe he got some secret on Drake or something?

smoo: I I ain't going that deep. I ain't going that deep. I ain't going that deep.

2: I don't think I don't think Drake care about that. I

Big Darrell: I know, I know, but I'm just

2: think

Big Darrell: like, I don't understand that shit, bro.

3eezy Bih: I I totally understand it. It's certain you got relationships. Like two

2: But I Yeah. Yeah, because I

smoo: You got it too. You got a two. You got a two.

3eezy Bih: like two point is is it's it's just like coaching. Certain niggas can do certain things.

2: Yeah. Just like But

smoo: Well, I think that goes back to that goes back to the the a few episodes ago when we said like Drake weird if he have future on the album. I that and without without proper explanation. You got it too.

2: I think

smoo: You got it too.

2: Yeah, but I think like I can't I can't judge friendship, you know what I'm saying? If that's his man, see one of the sometimes friendship overpower everything really. You know what I'm saying? Just like a racial. I can't tell you, man, you took a back. Nah, that that just you that's your girl, that's how you feel about it. That's your dog, you feel me? I can't tell you when, like you cut a nigga hand off for doing some minor shit because y'all wanna When that invested you feel me? So I think it it ain't never the the go to be hell yeah, cut everybody off. As soon as they make a mistake, fuck that nigga. You know what I'm saying? Just or just

smoo: But it's reoccurring though. It's not, it's not we've we've talked about this a few pods ago. This this is reoccurring. This ain't just like just popping up out of nowhere.

2: I I know. It don't make sense to us, it makes sense to them. You know what I'm saying? Just like you you ever like I hate to say this 'cause we friends you your girl ever your your girl ever told you

smoo: I don't think I don't think this this ain't the same though. That's pussy.

2: No no no no no no no no no no. Your girl ever said like, I don't know why you said hang with him or some shit like that, like, baby you you just stay and you don't get it. You know what I'm saying? Same shit. They

Big Darrell: But now, now, now too, let me ask you this. everybody on the pocket, what do you think Drake benefits for amending with future?

smoo: Shit, he he he did better on ran to Atlanta than future. I don't know what the fuck. I don't know what the fuck he get out of this. I don't know. Future got a like he

Big Darrell: I thought that shit, I thought Future's gay. That nigga a trash verse like he ain't even wanna do the song. It sounded, it sound.

smoo: The song is good. The song is good. But future, but future didn't make

3eezy Bih: I don't know, I I will cover that sound.

smoo: the song.

2: I think Drake piped piped him up. damn. But I think Drake He he up to the first side. What else? That shit kinda like added up.

smoo: That's ship that but that's that part that portion of the song was trash. It went until it got into the other part where it was like, okay, all right, I see what's going on. I just don't, I just don't see, I just didn't see the benefit.

Big Darrell: It's not like Future ain't wanna be on the song.

smoo: I just don't see the benefit because I think maybe like a couple of tracks before that, he said there was no features. You know, he wasn't he didn't he wasn't gonna have no big features, it's just me. And then, you know, we get the song with him and maybe so, maybe so. He said he

3eezy Bih: That was the introduction, wasn't it? No.

Big Darrell: And two, maybe it's this right here. Maybe because Drake fucked with 21 Savage. He fucked with Young Thug. So he has to amend it.

smoo: But why not them niggas? Why not them niggas on the song?

Big Darrell: Cause future is the biggest out of Atlanta. So, and then he said

smoo: Yes, bro.

Big Darrell: he spoke to Big Bank. So I guess they had to.

smoo: I ain't never heard Drake shout out bank. That shit was funny as fuck.

Big Darrell: On this song, right? I mean on the album, right? Yeah.

3eezy Bih: I but I'm I'm like like what the I I understand that y'all trying to get to the the the roots of it, but like I'm saying though, it's simple as a me coaching, bro. Money friendship, it could be more than money. It could be is it no, I'll

smoo: It's money. It's money. It's money. That's at the end of the day. That's what it's about. Nah, it ain't more. It can't be more than money.

Big Darrell: It's money. It's money.

2: I I think it's fresh though.

3eezy Bih: give you I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example, right? And

Big Darrell: I'm way too smooth.

3eezy Bih: this probably still nowhere near what y'all think. All right, so one time one time my my thirty point score, right? You know, thirty easy. Call me a bitch at practice. I hemmed him up. Don't get me wrong. He was on the wall, hemmed him up. A few hours later, you know, we cool back at it. I talked to him, we talked to him, boom, boom, bam. That's the third point score. What do you think would happen with the nigga average too that said that? Like facts. You know what I'm saying? Like it's it's it's

2: I will fit.

Big Darrell: That's true. That's true.

3eezy Bih: it's it's different folks can do different things.

smoo: Yeah, that's

Big Darrell: But then the situation is different because you need your 30 point score. If you were the 50 point score, like I said, if you were playing and you ain't need the 30 point score, so that's how I see it. I feel like Drake don't need future.

smoo: Like like you seen you seen what they did to Jordan Poole? You see what they did to Jordan Poole? They got rid of that nigga.

3eezy Bih: But

Big Darrell: like

3eezy Bih: if Draymond would've sni if Draymond would've done that to stealth, who you think would have been gone?

2: Hey that nigga that nigga Draymond would've been he he would have been on JPEG right now.

Big Darrell: Hold on, on, hold say that again, explain that.

2: He would have been on JPEG right now.

3eezy Bih: Man, Jay, hey, the Philip, no, but the nigga wouldn't even be in the NBA if he beat at the still.

smoo: Well, I mean you but you kinda answering our point because Draymond I mean, if Draymond is future

Big Darrell: Dre minus future.

smoo: and future is is is dr Steph is Drake.

3eezy Bih: No, what I'm saying is this though, we won't know what their benefits of their friendship is. That's all I'm saying. I mean, not all I'm saying. That's what two saying. And I'm saying that certain people can do certain things. Maybe, maybe he feel like

smoo: I get what y'all saying.

3eezy Bih: maybe he feels like how I feel about y'all boys. Y'all push me to do certain things. You know what I'm saying? He may he may feel like future is competition. Like, she I might need to step my game up when I'm working with him. He may, I mean it may be something we don't know.

Big Darrell: I think it's the Atlanta connection. I think he wants to be good in Atlanta.

3eezy Bih: And I know that's the point of the conversation we're trying to figure out, but I'm my point is more towards what two's saying instead of the actual topic, if that makes sense.

Big Darrell: Cuz like safe fancy if you cool with

2: I get what we saw.

Big Darrell: 21 7 you cool young thug, right? Young Thug from Zone 3, he can't be in Atlanta. That nigga, like, he in Miami, because of his probation. 21 Savage, he's Zone 6, but he ain't really Zone 6 like Future, you see what I'm saying? So, if you ain't good with Future, it's like, can you really be in Atlanta, like flexing with 21 Savage? Like, you can't really, you can't really do that, if that makes sense, right? Or it's like, if you go to somebody hood, you gotta have somebody with clout.

smoo: So you okay, so what you say what you saying is that relationship needs to be mended for the sake of moving. Not necessarily

3eezy Bih: For X is for like.

smoo: mo not not necessarily moving in Atlanta, but just that that connection to Atlanta music.

Big Darrell: Right, right, right. That's what I believe. Cause I believe them niggas will ride with Future before they ride with Drake. And like Future has like quote unquote, cause why?

smoo: Well, I mean, I I don't know if I believe that because yeah,

2: I don't believe that either.

smoo: the relationship

Big Darrell: Cause look.

smoo: the relationship with Thug is good. The relationship with Twenty One is good, the relationship me goes on the album. So I mean, yeah, Atlanta Atlanta on the album.

Big Darrell: That's true, but they're not bigger than Future. All

smoo: I don't know.

Big Darrell: them niggas ain't bigger than Future, and all them niggas can't really like, can't mark you good, if that makes sense, right? Like how Kendrick Lamar said, you can't be good in LA unless quote unquote one of these niggas bring you in. It's like politics, right? Like Atlanta politics. And Future

smoo: Well I

Big Darrell: is like the head of, he like the president of Atlanta.

smoo: I still think it was just a little bit too early. I think Willio touched on it last part. And I think it's a little bit too early, especially when we just like, you know, when you go through all the people that he talked about on the album and how he felt so strongly about all these things. I just think it's a little out of place, especially if you ask me, I don't think future really brought that much value to the album in the first place. You know.

Big Darrell: Exactly.

3eezy Bih: I I agree

Big Darrell: He could have kept Molly Santana

3eezy Bih: with that. I do agree with you on that.

Big Darrell: on there and just and left it like that.

2: A hundred percent, a hundred percent.

smoo: Yeah. So two, you got any more thoughts, bro? I know we, you know, went on a tangent about the futures situation.

2: talking about the album in general. I

smoo: Yeah, yeah.

2: think it's probably out of out of place right now. But yeah. I just it was dope to me. Still dope.

smoo: Mm. What'd you give at a scale of one out of ten?

2: Eight now.

smoo: Eight and a half. I was round the eight. I was round the eight.

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah, and I said eight, eight and half too.

3eezy Bih: Think I say eight. Hey, so so two c question. So the niggas bringing up the word classic. Do you think this is a classic?

2: I don't wanna call it.

Big Darrell: For Drake.

2: For Drake. I'm gonna say yeah just after rapping. If we gon we if you ask me the question. I wouldn't call it just me to myself, but like 'cause it gotta grow me some I it it gotta live. But just the rapping wise, I think this probably this top three rapping Drake. If you

3eezy Bih: I disagree with that. I think it's like number one rabbit drink, but I don't think it's a classic.

2: But I I'm saying I'm saying we're trying to be key though motherfuckers wanna say,

Big Darrell: Classic is hard.

2: Are you being biased? I think this is nigga rap.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, you've been too soon. Nah, hell no. Far bar, wordplay, entonces, all that shit. This this album

2: The Dan nigga going crazy.

Big Darrell: But why don't you say it's a classic?

3eezy Bih: So hold on. So this album to me

smoo: I think hold on, hold on. I I think people don't wanna say a classic in fear of saying classic too early. And they could feel like

2: Yeah.

smoo: it's a classic. But you gotta do

3eezy Bih: That's that's a good point. I think

2: That's that's me.

3eezy Bih: I don't I'm gonna be honest with you. I think the album is a classic because of the the stuff that happened prior. And he actually rapped on it. He he

smoo: Good point.

3eezy Bih: he expressed his feelings and he was actually rapping. I didn't hear no I didn't want to hear no Marvin's room. I didn't want to hear a God playing with with all things that was going on. I wanted to hear I wanted to hear what's going on. See, we can talk about what happened. That's what everybody be asking about. That's why that's why previous pods, I didn't care what y'all was saying about. You know, Wayne and all that other shit, not to bring a Wayne, but far as like what people talk about in the album, because people switch up every time. I'm like, bro, y'all mad at Drake for God playing or you know, nothing with the same type shit. But then when he actually gives the stuff that you want to hear, man, he in his field. Man, shut up. I ain't no big I'm not a big Drake fan. You know, my my niggas is Wayne Ludacris, Rob Wade.

smoo: Yo niggas are always in their feelings.

3eezy Bih: That's but that's what I'm saying. Like, but people talk about Rod Wade always in their feelings. But then they

smoo: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: talk about Drake, he'll make songs for the car. It's just like, bro, it's just like that's why I don't be caring to hear all the extra shit. But far as like that nigga rapping, best album ever he ever wrote. Far just rap. Just straight rap, bars, everything to it. But I don't think it's a classic album. I don't think it's I think it got a whole bunch of replay value for the culture.

smoo: You know you you know you said classic like a few minutes ago though.

3eezy Bih: Huh?

smoo: You called it a classic like three minutes ago.

3eezy Bih: No, I don't think it's a classic. I ain't say it's a classic. I

smoo: You did.

3eezy Bih: I don't think it's a Drake classic. I told y'all that I told y'all hit three his three top albums to me last part, I thought.

smoo: Hey two, he called it a classic, didn't he?

3eezy Bih: Well, I'm not I misspoke. I don't think it's a classic. I think it's classic

2: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: rapping. I think it

smoo: Okay, okay, okay.

3eezy Bih: got I got I think I I think I did say it was classic rapper. I think the shit

smoo: Okay, okay.

3eezy Bih: number one, his best album ever bars just if you call him the classic 'cause it's rapping, hell yeah. But number one. Number one. Easy. I mean that was that lemma pepper flow type shit to me. So it's hey like this is the shit that I can actually listen to. Like I'ma listen to him because it's Like, this nigga rapping. Now although I mean it's not I'm not a big Drake fan like that, so I'm not listening to it four, five, six times. But this here, this album, yeah, I can I can like shit, we can bump that a little bit.

2: And nigga say you better whisper my name. my god. That's this nigga. I just wanna see a boy bed on a pavement. What?

Big Darrell: But now, now, now, now, let me ask you this. Do you say, I know this might be a little too far, but do you say J. Cole's The Fall Off is a classic? Okay, okay.

smoo: Hold on, hold on. That's okay. So this that's the next question. So

Big Darrell: Okay, okay.

smoo: so so the next question is

3eezy Bih: They're trying to take smoke job.

Big Darrell: My bad, no, no, no, no, I just...

smoo: Nah, he just I mean he could

2: Mm-hmm.

smoo: have had it if he framed it right. So

3eezy Bih: Yeah.

smoo: the best album, so we you know, we we were two two years into the beef, two and a half years into the beef. All right,

2: Mm-hmm.

3eezy Bih: Yeah.

smoo: so we done got an album from all three artists, and this is they Well, I know Daryl, you might not feel like GNX is, you know, that's that was supposed to be the next Kendrick album. But we have three full body of works from J. Cole, Kendrick, and Drake. The big three. Who has the best album since all three of them dropped? Do we say Iceman? Do we say GNX? Or do we say the Fallout?

Big Darrell: I wanna go first. say cold is number three to me, always. Cold is three to me. Cold is, that's why I was gonna ask y'all. A lot of people say the fall off is a classic, but see. If we're going on rapping wise, yes, it is a rap classic, but to me it missed a lot of like crossover singles, like far as like people can sing like with the Drake song, you got that teach me baby. Like Cole needs that to me. I don't want to just hear like some 90s rap shit. Like that's cool, but I need single singles. And so it... Okay, so I'll put it like this. That can be a classic, right? Drake's can be a classic. Kendrick Lamar's can be a classic as well. But if we're going just on rap, rap, right? Cole is three, to me Drake is two because Drake had less songs that I liked, right? So like if I liked it, let's say 10 out of 19 on Drake's, right? On G and X, Kendrick had 12 songs. I only disliked maybe like one, right? Maybe one or even two. Like the only ones I really disliked was like G and X, I hated that shit. With them niggas on there, that's trash. Dodger Blue was okay, but it wasn't like a bop and... It's a different album style, right? So Cole is like rapping lyrically. His whole album was to be the most lyrical, miracle rap nigga. I don't wanna make singles, I just wanna rap. So if I just voted off that, yes, it's a classic. Drake's song, I mean Drake album is a comeback album. It's more of let me tell you what the beef did to me. Let me give y'all a light into my life. Let me show you what's going on. Let me tell you about what's going on in my life, why I did this. why I did that. So if I'm voting that, that's a classic as well. But Kendrick Lamar, it's not a Kendrick Lamar classic to me, like far as his catalog, but it is... like what Smooth said, it's new. It's something we never got from Kizzo Lamar. It's not a concept album. It's fresh and it sounds like it's recorded within the last three months of the beef. So that's something we never got from Kizzo Lamar. And we got like a sound defining of California. Like he did all California sound. So I marked that as a classic as well, but I don't mark it as a lyrical miracle rap classic. I mark J. Cole's as a lyrical miracle rap classic. Drake has an overall classic for us. He got singles, got rap songs, and he got bops on there. You know what I'm saying? it's just hard to rate those and compare those three, because it's totally three different albums. But if I had to pick from my perception, I like Kendrick's, then I like Drake's, and then Cole is third to me.

smoo: For sure, for sure. What you think too?

2: I'll just say the I got I got Drake, Kendrick and Cole. I think Drake's I think this shit this shit is like amazing to me, bro. This shit like it's really it's really good. I think Kendrick Like

Big Darrell: I agree, it's amazing.

2: Kendrick I think it was like the I don't know if it's it was the perfect time for Kendrick to drop an album without a concept. Down there like to dance the after

Big Darrell: Yeah

2: after the victory, you feel me? And I don't I don't know I don't know Kendrick, 'cause Kendrick always gonna have a concept or like we talking about this. It's just probably one of the first times in his career to just drop some music. Without having you know I mean, without having to sit in the studio thinking about something. Cole, I it didn't Cole shit sounded like the falloff, you know? It was some like Coach. You feel me? He raps his ass off, but like, bro, sometimes I ain't some just rhyme sometimes to me don't mean you can rap me. So it if it felt like that. It felt like that. But if I put him in order, it was I like Drace the best, I like Kendrick's, then I like Cole's third.

smoo: I I would assume Dink going in that same order. What you got Dink?

3eezy Bih: mean pretty much I mean, I'm with with two on the J. Cole too. I I think I think J. Cole album would have been a lot better if it came at a different time. Like you already know how I feel about the Cole album just I I think Drake did exactly what I would ask the Cole album to do. You know what I'm saying? So of course

2: Good point.

smoo: He can't do that though.

3eezy Bih: I mean not to Drake's level, but I I mean you could have gave us something. Like it wasn't Anyway, you know I ain't we already had our ring on that. No. so he number three, which by default 'cause I think if somebody would drop something other he would have been like number six, but I I

smoo: Mm-hmm.

3eezy Bih: don't even think it would be the Kanye album, but that ain't popular opinion right now. Anyway, I'm going with G and X number two. And I you know, I think I'm the far from buying 'cause I think all y'all except for probably smooth, you know, big Kendrick Vane with

smoo: yeah, I'm a big fan of all three of these niggas.

3eezy Bih: Yeah,

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah.

3eezy Bih: see y'all like Smooth is a big fan of all three. I think Darrell is a bigger fan of Kendrick than Drake.

smoo: Right.

3eezy Bih: And I think Drake is a big I mean two is a bigger fan of Drake than Kendrick. But he like all three, but with the B I'm taking Drake and with the B Daryl taking Kendrick. So I think

Big Darrell: And I can see how somebody can rate the Drake album over GNX, because I can see that. So I can honestly see that.

3eezy Bih: I'm I'm I'm going with Drake because and I'm not a big fan of neither one. I lo I just love I like all three. But

smoo: Mm-hmm.

3eezy Bih: Drake I mean, Drake probably was my favorite out of three, but as far as what Drake did, the rollout make that bitch number one out of all of anyway. That shit was just crazy. Like to

smoo: Yeah, yeah.

Big Darrell: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: compare it to the rollout, how great that rollout was and compare it to it,

Big Darrell: Two year rollout too, yeah.

3eezy Bih: it was some of the

smoo: Nah, nigga ain't no fucking two-year roll out, nigga. Nigga ain't sleep, man. You ain't sleep, man.

2: He tried to s he try to spin in

Big Darrell: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

smoo: That dropped last year, man. Last summer. Make it

3eezy Bih: Yeah. Why not?

smoo: dropped June twenty-fifth.

3eezy Bih: I feel there. I mean I dare. It kinda make it dead. I feel there.

Big Darrell: hold on, hold when the Iceman part one drop?

smoo: That's all dropped within the last year, bro.

Big Darrell: Okay, so one year rollout. So I like that. I like that.

2: Okay.

Big Darrell: And look, look, I said smooth some of the day like what a rollout is. I put it in the

smoo: Yeah, I said let it go.

Big Darrell: chat. One year rollout. It's good. It's good. It's good.

2: I said so I I said let it go.

3eezy Bih: I said schools on early. Yeah, I think she's on back, say let that shit go.

smoo: Yeah, let it go.

3eezy Bih: But yeah, I mean, yeah, I I mean just everything was about timing. So I may be feeling a different way, you know, a year or two from now about, you know, Iceman.

smoo: That's fair.

3eezy Bih: But for what it if for the time being of what happened, I think Iceman did it for and I like that point that two said too, that G and X were perfect. It was a victory lap type. he

Big Darrell: Yeah, it's a different sound.

3eezy Bih: Well, I mean you can do that when you You you you just you just you just beat the dragon, bro. Hey. I just beat the dra I just slayed a dragon, bro.

smoo: He he he was he was able to let his hair down. That's what I was trying to tell Daryl. I was trying to tell

Big Darrell: I guess you can.

smoo: Darrell. I was trying to tell Darrell that in our DMs, bro. Kendrick, this that was his moment to be an abstract rapper. I know you don't want to admit to it, but that was his time to be an abstract rapper. His whole career been around concept and focus and trying to change the world. That beef allowed him to finally take that shit off and just rap.

2: Mm-hmm.

3eezy Bih: No cap no.

2: Yeah, for sure.

Big Darrell: That's facts, that's facts, that's facts. And then allow him, I agree with that, I agree with that. No,

smoo: So that's facts. So that's facts. Okay, okay, okay.

Big Darrell: no, no, what I didn't agree with is you say the next album cannot be a conceptual album. I

smoo: I don't think so. I don't think so.

Big Darrell: think you can.

smoo: I don't, I don't think, I don't think, and I'm glad you brought this up. I'm glad you brought this up.

Big Darrell: Cause I think this is Drake, this is Drake only concept album. That's why I can see folks putting it number one because Iceman is a whole concept. It's like

3eezy Bih: Right.

Big Darrell: after the beef, I didn't grab cold on these niggas and these bars cold, these thongs cold. And then he had to roll out the ice and that's conceptual to me. I think the next one can.

smoo: Yeah, you're right. No, but I don't think nobody I don't think I don't know what motherfuckers gonna want from Kendrick. But I don't think they want they

Big Darrell: That's the hard part.

smoo: don't want Mr. Morale. They already told you they don't want Mr. Morrell. They don't like that Kendry. He can't

2: Yeah. I don't think he he can't go with some people butterfly either.

smoo: go the topimple butterfly route.

Big Darrell: Hold on, hold on, I'm gonna let Smooth get yours out first and I'm gonna tell the world where Kendra got next coming.

smoo: Okay. Alright, cool. So

2: It's out of order, man.

3eezy Bih: Reported Darrow.

smoo: so I don't think you can get a concept about, you know, black activist rights no more. I don't think you could get a GNX, even though GNX wasn't a conceptual album, it was a sound, was a definitely a sound conceptual conceptual album. You you can't

2: Very west coast.

smoo: get that off no more. So You can't get into pimple butterfly off. You already did. Damn, damn was probably like the best mix of concept and

Big Darrell: All three, yeah.

smoo: just, you know, just flow. And that's what I'm telling you, bro. He was in a weird spot. He was in a weird spot before before the beef. And so that beef just allowed him to be just like, okay, let me just go back to just who I am. You know what I'm saying? Good kid, Man City, just backseat freestyle type shit. So I don't think people gonna want a con a you already told us like you not really that nigga that that you said you was. You already told us you really not that. So I don't know how do you go back to being quote unquote conscious. I think people kind of want you in this, this kind of like this.

Big Darrell: Like boogie man era.

smoo: Yeah, they want you in it. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah.

Big Darrell: Okay, okay. So this is what I think Kendrick does now, So as the most awarded rapper for his Grammys, right? The one Grammy he doesn't have is Album of the Year. The one Grammy no solo rap artist has. Like Outkast, I think, is the only group that has Album of the Year. So I think Kendrick Lamar, Smooth calls it pandering. What I say is he makes a... genre defining album, right? So like, so when you mix to Pimp a Butterfly, but you mix it with more of Damn, right? Cause to Pimp a Butterfly is all black cultural music, right? It's like jazz, it's blues, it's poetry, it's rap, it's hip hop. But I think Kendrick goes more crossover for his pop. And he, with this album, he does big, big features for his like Beyonce, Rihanna. Cause remember that Ruman went out Rihanna and was in the studio. Why she wasn't on GNX is because I feel like this is the album that we know Kendrick for. It's like three to four years in the making. So this is the album that was supposed to supersede what it is, the big steppers in 2022. And it's coming up on that four year timeframe, 2026. So I think this is the album you get the big singles, you get the big the big features like Rihanna, I'm gonna say Rihanna on there, maybe Beyonce, maybe Jay-Z feature, and even go a little further and get like a Taylor Swift or like another name, like maybe an Adele, or one of those big pop stars. And what you do is you make big pop singles and you make the album of the year because none of those people have dropped the album, honestly. Like Taylor Swift hasn't dropped, Adele hasn't dropped, so. The album of the year is up for the taking and I believe Universal is not gonna have anybody else drop during the summer because you know how they do their rollouts. Like when they have their bigger artists dropping, they leave it up to them for the summer. So if Kendrick is dropping, like the rumors are saying this summer, I think he wins the album of the year by making just a genre defining album and it's gonna be crossover with big singles, kind of like all of the stars. Like how that was with songs like that. And I say that's the only way he can go and that's the only award that he wants.

smoo: Yeah, but I I don't

2: Are you are

smoo: I don't

2: you trying to say d define or define?

smoo: Defining, defining.

Big Darrell: Yeah, the funny.

2: But I don't I I don't I don't

smoo: I agree too.

2: I don't think that's defining the the genre. And

smoo: I think that

Big Darrell: What?

smoo: I think that I think that pushes you away from what the genre wants.

2: That's d that's defying, that's like going against. And I don't

Big Darrell: It's okay, okay, so too late. me get for instance, genre defining is, yeah, perfect.

smoo: No, no, he he knows what you saying, but what he's saying is what you're saying goes against what the culture wants from him. The culture wants him to stay in the culture. What you saying takes him out of the culture. Right, too?

2: Yeah, he's going against I don't he niggas stay

Big Darrell: You think so too?

2: stay in the pocket. I don't think he can scribble right now.

Big Darrell: Two, two, so, so, so, so, No, no, I disagree with that. I disagree.

smoo: That's what I'm telling him. That's what I'm telling him. And that's perfect. That's the perfect. That's perfect what you just said, too. That's what I'm trying to tell this nigga. The

Big Darrell: I disagree.

smoo: rap don't won't. If you gonna be the boogeyman, nigga, you gotta stay right here. If you go

Big Darrell: No.

smoo: anywhere else, nigga, why the fuck did you beat for Drake?

Big Darrell: But check this out, check this out. No, you can have the bars.

smoo: Fat man hell no

2: Okay.

Big Darrell: I say this is the bars, the double entendre. This the Kendrick you gonna get. But you gonna get all of the stars. You gonna get love, with Rihanna. You're gonna get that. You might even get one of them Drake singles. Like, hold on, what's that song? Just hold on, we're going home. Just hold on, you're gonna get that.

smoo: Man, I'm telling you, bro. Bro, they don't want that, bro.

Big Darrell: You gonna get that bro. It ain't about what the

3eezy Bih: Make start dancing to make your point.

2: Man, but

Big Darrell: culture wrong. The culture didn't know they wanted GNX Kendrick defines what his fan base

smoo: They still don't.

Big Darrell: bro his fan base defines what he wants. Well, I mean he defines what his fan base wants. They trust Kendrick Lamar's judgment. They trust his creativity. They trust his musical intellect to go where he where he believes music should go and that's why every ever since good kid man City. You got to pimple butterfly, you got damn, and then you got the big steppers, and then you got GNX. All five of them albums sound different. That is one artist that n***a albums don't sound nothing alike.

2: You you you're you're mi you're missing the main point though. You

Big Darrell: But what's the main point?

2: you speaking about after it came out before he beefed with Drake. You can't No, it it does it don't matter.

Big Darrell: It don't matter the beef, he done with the beef. It don't matter. It don't matter because people,

3eezy Bih: Right.

2: You mean advice, bro?

Big Darrell: people won't, people won't, hold hold I'm tell you why it don't matter. People want Kendrick to keep antagonizing Drake or keep saying his name or even keep like keeping that persona. But that's how you burn out. Like, you know how when some shit get old and you wear it in the ground, that ain't what Kendrick do. It's over with. I think he keeps to what he said. No second chances. No, you can't win a Super Bowl twice. You don't get second chances at the Super Bowl. Hey, this it right here. I think he keeps true to that and he goes on with his life. He said what he said. Drake said what he said. I think Drake goes on with his life and I think Kendra goes on is, hey, let you let Drake have the last word. Cause when Wilier was right, Kendra was throwing shots. He wasn't throwing shots, but he said what he felt on G and X. Drake said what he said on Iceman. You leaving that there. and then you go on and you both do your career. But see, what I'm saying is Kendrick wants that album of the year. He's the most awarded Grammy artist, rapper, and he never got an album of the year. All of five albums that we just named never won album of the year. They always keep them in that category of what it is, rap album of the year, and we all know what the Grammys do. They always like to make

2: Yeah, still nigga.

Big Darrell: up to artists where they felt like, they should have won album of the year and they didn't give it to him. He should have won with like on with smooth say good kid man city. I think he should have won album of the year or to pimple butterfly or even down where he won a Pulitzer prize. Why he didn't win at the Grammys that year. So this album by him doing a Superbowl by him being the most awarded rapper. I feel like if this album is crossover if it's enough publicity and pop the Grammys will give him album of the year because they failed to give it to him five albums ago. And so that's why I believe Kendrick wants. And if he gets that, that proves to everybody that he's the only rapper that has that award. Solo rapper, other than Andre 3000 and Big Boy of Outkast. And that's group.

smoo: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: I I

2: I think you d

3eezy Bih: I agree to disagree with both of y'all, honestly.

2: let me let me s let

Big Darrell: to tell a D.

smoo: Nigga, you ain't even you ain't even hear what we were talking about.

2: me say this one point, Dane.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, I just had I just had them ready I just had the video off 'cause I was eating. I didn't want to see it.

2: Let me say this let me say this one point thing. I think

Big Darrell: Go ahead,

2: I think if

3eezy Bih: really?

2: I think if I think if Kendra drops a pop album like his all basic he don't get the album here. I agree with

smoo: Right.

2: you there. But I think you I think you're down in this. You think he wants that Grammy more than the culture? Kendra this thing

smoo: I no, I think you want the Grammy more than the culture. I I I think so. I think so.

Big Darrell: I think so too. I

2: Okay, cool. You but I I I can roll with that. Wait, wait, let me do this up. Wait, wait, wait.

Big Darrell: think, okay. Two, two, two. Thank Michael Jackson thriller.

2: No wait wait but wait this, like, alright cool. If he even if he gets it, how does that look though?

smoo: That's no, I agree with you there. Retired, nigga,

Big Darrell: He can retire. He can retire. He can retire.

smoo: nigga, he already retired. That nigga already. That

2: Everything with cleaning alike.

Big Darrell: Ha ha you say you say what you say what smooth

smoo: nigga already retired. That

2: That they require you.

smoo: nigga retired every three, four years.

Big Darrell: But smooth what I'm saying is that nigga ain't gotta make another album. That nigga could be a CEO. He don't gotta make another album he do that. Like he can go like

smoo: Nah bro

3eezy Bih: So

Big Darrell: Lauryn Hill and co-star. He did what Lauryn Hill failed to do.

3eezy Bih: So so the reason I disagree to agree to both of y'all, cause both of y'all make sense. But the reason I disagree with with with Daryl is the same reason I did I I agree with Smooth or disagree with him. So anyway, let me explain. So you basically saying

smoo: Please.

3eezy Bih: So Daryl saying

2: Okay.

3eezy Bih: that the dude can go and get features to make somewhat a pop album, right? So he can do those songs like he was featuring with sizzle with. He can have a bunch of those, right? Smooth saying the coaches don't want that because what why the fuck you beat with Drake, if that's the case, then what was the whole point of it? You supposed to be they not like us, but then you be like them. If that's right, Smooth? All right. But the reason I say both y'all are right, because I just said it, but then when I say y'all both wrong, if he makes some hot songs, that shit ain't gonna fucking matter. That's what I always go by. If them that coaches shit, I mean, it is what it is. That coaching shit is us and then is everybody else. If everybody else liking that shit, he got some goddamn what's the song with Drake and Rihanna? Work, work, work type song. If he got that type

Big Darrell: Work work work love with Kendrick. Yeah

3eezy Bih: of shit, the shit with Sizzle and all that shit, I ain't saying he got that in the back. I don't know. I'm just saying, but if you get a whole bunch of them on the on the 10, 12 to you know however many song album, see, he could get that bitch. And ain't nobody we gonna get on the coaches gonna get on there and be like, you people trade for this, this, this, and that. Them numbers gonna be steady climbing.

Big Darrell: And that's what I'm saying, and I believe this, because if it's true Drake is off of UMG, who is their new rap cash cow, right? It's Kendrick. And they gonna put that bread

3eezy Bih: Sound simple.

Big Darrell: behind that motherfucking album to make that bitch look like just a piss off Drake though. They gonna get him the Drake rollout, they gonna get him the Drake promo package, and they gonna make that shit go number one, and I feel like. He gonna win that Grammy based off that and that's what he won't. no, no, I'm saying that Dean, that's my theory. That's what I think Kendra go. Yeah, like, cause it's nowhere else for Kendra to go.

3eezy Bih: I'm not saying it. I'm I I now look at this on I'm not saying you're gonna win, I don't know, but I

2: Nice. So I won't say anything nigga. But I don't think we we disagree with you though.

Big Darrell: Cause it...

3eezy Bih: But then again, like Smooth say he can catch so much backlash from the coach and and don't get those deal.

Big Darrell: But if he has those songs, and we know Kendrick can write those songs, but no, I'm only saying this if he drops this summer, because again, Kendrick don't have to drop this summer. We know this nigga like Smoot say, that come out every four years, every three years. Why would he drop this summer and not have the album of the year? That's crazy to me. Why would you, you don't have to come out the Drake,

smoo: I don't think he's dropping this summer.

Big Darrell: you don't have to come out

2: Yeah.

Big Darrell: the Cole. You let them niggas, you get what I'm

smoo: Yeah. Yeah, I don't

Big Darrell: saying Smoot?

smoo: yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I don't think he's dropping the summer. I think he's still he's still riding off of the beef. So I don't

2: Yeah.

smoo: I think it's still I think it's still too early, you know, to to drop, honestly. And you know, just to give my my my opinion

2: It's stupid.

Big Darrell: I believe that too.

smoo: off the best album out the beef, I think we all agree that the Falloff is the worst album out of all three. I would say GNX two, Iceman. first, but I think it's I think it's fair to say I think everybody agrees that the fall off is probably the worst out the three.

Big Darrell: Fuck yeah.

2: I hate that Focolo man.

smoo: yeah. Why do you hate it for cold?

3eezy Bih: don't.

smoo: Why do you hate it for cold? Cold don't hate it for itself.

3eezy Bih: I don't hear called it off, okay. You say you were covered.

2: True. Sure.

Big Darrell: Koko said this this supposed to, okay, but now let me ask y'all this. Do y'all think the follow up is Kole best

2: Right.

Big Darrell: album? Cause he thinks this is his best album. So can we say if this is his best album?

smoo: Man, fuck no. He done

3eezy Bih: I mean why is they hitting the combo?

smoo: made the fall off six, seven times. I I'd have said that before. He done made the fall off six, seven times. This shit ain't nothing new.

2: Boy, that's a slippery motherfucker. That

smoo: Right.

Big Darrell: I think force here drive is his best. And then Friday night lights after that.

2: nigga key f boy.

smoo: Man, listen, man. Listen, bro.

3eezy Bih: Big ball now.

smoo: Bro, I remember these conversations like they were yesterday, bro. When we was this is like 2015, 2016. I was working at Firestone, and we used to have these conversations about Cole, Kendrick, Drake, all the time. Drake, I mean, I I kind of hate the fact that like The That I keep having to talk about Drake in a sense of like his work ethic. I'm not even talking about the music. But his work ethic, like, it's unmatched. And you know, you got Joe Buttons of the world and the E Bros of the world and Charlemagne that like say that that's attached to his contracts. You know, that he got with UMG and Live Nation, where he has to tour. He has to Do all of this stuff because you know that's in his contract. He in a 360 contract, put your T and all these guys. But regardless, like the man works around the clock, and he does not have to have a target to make music. That's what I've always said. He doesn't have to have a target to make music. J. Cole and Kendrick has had to have a target for the last 10 years. They've had to have a target, whether it was racism. Whether it was socialism, whether it was activism, they've had to have a target to make music. And along the way, Cole kinda got out that phase where he had to have a target to make music. It wasn't up until the beef, what Kendrick was able to to get out of that shit. And so I just say that to say I forgot up I forgot my point. I forgot my fucking point.

2: Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

3eezy Bih: I just say just to say I forgot my point, man.

Big Darrell: But look, but look,

smoo: Yeah.

Big Darrell: but look, I will second this with Smooth says Drake is the one, I don't think Drake has a more work ethic. I think all these niggas in the studio every day. think Drake is the one that releases the most. I think Kendrick and Cole don't release as much as they should.

smoo: They but they can't, but they can't Daryl. And that's what I'm seeing. You can't drop, you can't drop to Pimp a butterfly twice. You can't drop KOD twice. You can't drop well cold and drop four URL eyes only like seven times.

Big Darrell: That's all I'm But look, look, and Cole fans love it though. Cause

2: We see how that bro

Big Darrell: look, cause look, it's people in

smoo: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: the comment section still saying Cole has the album of the year, the nigga had the top tier bars. Okay.

smoo: Okay, okay. That was my point. That was my point. That's my point. That's my point. My point is. When Drake was like running shit, it's kinda like the Kelly Rowland and Beyonce situation. Like Kelly Rowland dropped motivation. And motherfuckers, man, she way better than Beyoncé.

3eezy Bih: Come to the walls.

smoo: You know what I'm saying? And it's like, nah, this was

3eezy Bih: I don't remember that, but really

smoo: the thing. Like Kelly Rowland had her moment, bro. She had a moment.

Big Darrell: I remember that, I remember that smooth. I

2: I'm wrong too.

Big Darrell: know he's saying.

3eezy Bih: But nah I I get that. Say your point but we won't forget it. Yeah, yeah.

smoo: But this is not my point. Yeah, this ain't my point.

Big Darrell: I get what he's saying.

smoo: My point is, is like when Drake was like doing his thing and like cold star writing all these raps and and two and everybody, I used man, this nigga ain't he ain't hitting like that, bro. But because niggas just wanted to like lean linger on to something, J. Cole became everybody's favorite. Like it was never really real, bro. The love was never really real. That's my that's been my personal thought. D. I'm a J. Cole fan through thick and thin. I've been telling this nigga too and JG for the longest, bro. Niggas ain't never really fucked with Cole like that, but they hated Drake like that. Real shit.

2: Bien, sale.

Big Darrell: But see, but see, I don't know if I agree with that

3eezy Bih: I I can't say that though.

Big Darrell: smooth, cause Cole, Cole,

smoo: Telling

Big Darrell: I feel like Cole has die hard motherfucking fans. Like that nigga got fans like.

smoo: No, no, this ain't about his fans. This is about media. This ain't got nothing to do with the fans.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, he's on my yeah. He's on my fan.

2: Th this about his his

Big Darrell: Okay, okay, okay.

2: his placement. How people play.

Big Darrell: Hold on, hold so,

smoo: You say

Big Darrell: so, so, so, so what it got to do with Smooth? Explain it.

smoo: I'm talking about like the I'm talking about just media. Just like this, man, J. Cole is he's the best. Bro, y'all just ain't like Drake. You ain't want to put Drake there. And because Kendrick, Kendrick finally entered himself into this race. Kendrick wasn't in the race. He wasn't in the race for a long time. But J. Cole, nigga, went on a crazy feature run. You know what I'm saying? He here, he there. And so everybody, man, he's way better than Drake. Well shit. Yeah, I just don't want to just keep crying the man every year. So J. Cole is that dude. And I'm just sitting here listening. I'm like, bro, like Jake Cole and like regressed. Like he he his his verses are so monotone. Now we get to the fall off. Now we get to the fall off. You say what?

Big Darrell: I think that nigga sound worse than, I think that nigga sound worse than Big Creek. I think he just sound worse than the Big Creek.

smoo: Bro, it the fall off is so monotone. This is the same shit we've been hearing for years. So, like, why y'all don't like it now?

Big Darrell: Facts.

3eezy Bih: Yeah. Well, I mean

Big Darrell: I stopped liking it after Four Your Eyes. That's when I stopped. That's when Cold Entrace, like, I think he can never do 2014 here, Forest Drive, and I think he can never do Friday Night Lights. He don't got that hunger. He don't got that Jay-Z, like, nigga on his ass like, no, you need to do this type of song. He wanna do all the rap shit, but bro, you gotta mix that shit up. Like, this ain't the 90s and the 80s. You can't make albums like that.

smoo: Well I just I just don't think

Big Darrell: He got the passion for it no more.

smoo: Think I think If I if I look at Cole career, I think Cole I think he realized like it it wasn't about rap no more. Like it just wasn't

Big Darrell: Ho ho!

smoo: about the cool bars and shit no more. You know what I'm saying? Like I think he realized

Big Darrell: Thanks.

smoo: that shit and like it kind of like and then he tried to he tried to focus on the activism and all that type of shit. And

Big Darrell: And that just ain't him though, you know?

smoo: it well, it didn't get him nowhere. Like they still criticized him for that. You know what I'm saying? Like you had the girl, like no name.

2: Yeah. No name. I was gonna say that.

smoo: Yeah, yeah, they still criticize him for that. So he that's what I'm saying. So he went back to rapping. He went back to just you know I'm saying. But you know

Big Darrell: Now, now, now, if you had to compare.

2: I was gonna recall that like Wayne just rapping the track's ass off and

Big Darrell: facts and that's what he loves but if you had to compare Cole to like a pop star or a soul artist who would you compare Cole to? Okay so I'm gonna give you example right if we say Drake is Michael Jackson right to me Kendrick Lamar is Marvin Gaye or Curtis Mayfield but then who would would J Cole be?

2: Well so

Big Darrell: That's a good one though. Like my dog got one ring and so I was like, hey, hey.

2: what's Koala?

Big Darrell: Hey, he might be Al Green or something like, something like, nigga might got one slap.

smoo: Yeah, I just yeah, so I would say yeah, I would say for me my I would say dialon, dialon, dialon, honestly. Shit, Drake, Drake,

Big Darrell: Yeah

smoo: Drake. The G and X if we got three spies, Drake take all three of them fuckers.

3eezy Bih: just I'm just still kinda confused on it. I think you just kinda I think you made a good point. I think you just kinda fucked it up with No, no, no, no, no,

smoo: Are you talking about the J. Cole shit? Nah, I mean, bro, I've been saying this shit for fucking years.

3eezy Bih: no. I ain't I ain't arguing. I'm just saying I think you made a good point, but I think you just kinda diluted it with the Deon S Killer Rose shit.

smoo: Well that's just a that was just the first thing I could think of.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, don't think of that shit no more. I don't ever think nobody I don't think

smoo: I mean see, I mean they're they're a saying he heard it before. That used to be a thing.

3eezy Bih: No bra thought Keller Rowland was on top when she dropped Beyonce. I mean, when she dropped motivation?

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah, I heard that when she came out with that. Hell yeah, People want to hate on Beyonce, that's for a fact. Smooth ain't lying about that shit.

smoo: Right. That's just the point. Yeah. That's the point.

3eezy Bih: I I get that, but Kelly Rowland wasn't the the Robin. I mean wasn't the the Joker, bro. Come on, man. If anybody would probably been Sierra.

Big Darrell: But even people like Kevin

smoo: But it's it's more so it's more so.

Big Darrell: Samuels would say Kelly Rowland is a facial feature, he always does this. Kelly Rowland is like a 10 and Beyonce is probably like an eight or something.

smoo: Yeah, and it's more and more so the point is the more so the point is about dark skin versus light skin. Like whenever you have like a pretty dark skin, they like they try to make her like, my god, she like that was Kelly she had a moment where everybody thought she was finer than Beyonce, all this type of stuff. It didn't last long.

Big Darrell: Yep. Hell yeah.

3eezy Bih: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm saying what to make your point, you you that people were saying that Kelly Rowland was bigger or better, whatever the word choice you chose. And I'm saying you made a good point with the J. Cole, but that diluted it because I don't think nobody ever thought Kelly Rowland was bigger. You're talking about motivation.

smoo: Shit, there I just confirmed it.

3eezy Bih: I think that's around the time she dropped Well, yeah, I know motivation that wing.

Big Darrell: Motivation, motherfuckers love motivation, motherfuckers was saying, hell yeah.

smoo: Yeah, but but dad just confirmed he it's four people on here and dad just confirmed he heard the shit, bro.

3eezy Bih: They're disagreeing because we on the damn pod, right?

Big Darrell: Nah, I'm for real, you know, hey shit, you know me and Smooth barely agree. So if I agree, you know I'm telling the truth now.

2: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: Time out, time out. No, I'm saying when you say when you say you when I say you agreed, that was just in the flow of the conversation. like I think that was round the time your girl came out with that

smoo: Wait.

3eezy Bih: round the time to the left and shit came out. Not to the left all run the world and

smoo: Have you ever heard that? Have you ever heard the the shit about Beyonce and Kelly Roman?

3eezy Bih: shit. That's around the time run the world

2: Yeah. I think because

Big Darrell: around that time with motivation

smoo: Okay, so that's three

Big Darrell: and yeah, they was like she back and all that shit.

smoo: that's three people who done heard it, Dean. What you tryna prove, bro?

3eezy Bih: Well if that's the case, y'all need to get the bro. That's when the time when motivation came out. That's when like run the town came out. Best I never had.

smoo: No, it's not. Motivation came out like 2003, 2004, or some shit. It did at the

3eezy Bih: Hell no, that came like eleven.

smoo: dilemma, bro.

3eezy Bih: No, that came out like eleven, bro. That came out like 2011, 2012. Cause that when Wayne

2: I think the point I it's just like it just is really just

3eezy Bih: Wayne was going on his run.

smoo: Like I don't even know what nigga doing too.

2: It's just really like the situation like like man Jordan Poole went on the on the wars, he'd be bot now. It's just like if if Kelly was out of Beyonce's shadow, she'd be better than see I told y'all. It's just one of those situations, bro.

3eezy Bih: I I've never heard that a day in my fucking life. Never.

2: Really?

3eezy Bih: Even when the big song like Dilemma came out. I've 'cause you gotta think about it. It's when the

smoo: Well see you one of the box then, bro. I said you the one in the box then.

3eezy Bih: I I I guess so because I'm telling you, around the time

2: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: Motivation came out, I'm thinking of the song. I think that's like when Countdown came out. Like, man, come on, man. What album was that? When Beyonce had that coming out too. Best I never had in Countdown and all this. I think that's when

2: I mean

3eezy Bih: Run the World was coming out. Cause I think that's when she had the damn Super Bowl appearance.

2: No, but I think we we were saying is the the statement is real. We're not saying the statement was true.

smoo: Right. Right.

3eezy Bih: No, I know that, but I don't think it ever been no no

2: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: room for a nigga to even think of that. That's what I'm saying. Like I don't think it ever been no room of that. Like never.

2: It should've been.

Big Darrell: But what he's saying is, what he's saying is the haters, like the haters that don't

smoo: Yeah, right.

Big Darrell: like Beyonce and want Beyonce to fall off and want Beyonce being illuminati and all this other shit, they want

smoo: Right. Right.

Big Darrell: Kelly Rowland. They was saying Kelly Rowland.

3eezy Bih: I I I get what you're saying. We can go to the next subject, but I'm saying I don't

smoo: Right. The like I said, the black the black

2: Until I broke.

3eezy Bih: think motivation was enough motivation for us to even say some dumb shit like that.

Big Darrell: But it was a big song though. It was a big comeback for Kelly Rowland. She just ain't keep it up.

3eezy Bih: She had one great song. I just named you like three classics.

Big Darrell: She just ain't.

3eezy Bih: I just named you three classics that Beyonce put out around that time. I wanna say that was about around the time 7-Eleven came out. Fuck no.

Big Darrell: But it just cut Kelly Rowland and keep up the hype. That's

2: Yeah.

Big Darrell: all that was. She should have dropped three other songs.

3eezy Bih: Daryl, I get what y'all saying. But I I I I just fail. I want to know what box you motherfuckers was in. Cause I just

2: Okay.

3eezy Bih: name you three to four classics around motivation came out that one that would never ever make you think Kelly Rogan even had a spot or speckled chance to be better than Beyonce. Like, come on.

smoo: Nigga, what the fuck are you talking about? We agree.

3eezy Bih: No, I'm I'm saying I wanna know who Santa is. I'm like, who fucked Santa dumb shit? That's crazy.

Big Darrell: A lot of people, I'm telling you, Beyonce

2: Man, let me call these niggas, man.

Big Darrell: haters, Beyonce haters, they always say

3eezy Bih: Man, please.

Big Darrell: that.

3eezy Bih: I'm like, bro, do you think this character like three hits compared to her one at that time? Like she didn't have time to be.

Big Darrell: But that bitch was big. I can't be young on a, that bitch was huge though. That was probably.

3eezy Bih: That bitch was huge. I didn't think that bitch was that bitch wasn't that run the world.

Big Darrell: I don't even remember around the world. I remember motivation

3eezy Bih: And that and that had a warning feature.

Big Darrell: though.

3eezy Bih: Motivation goes crazy. I was there rabbing that bit today.

Big Darrell: I got it though smooth. So if we say Drake is Michael Jackson and Prince, right? J Cole is Smokey Robinson and Dunny Hathaway. Kendrick Lamar will be Stevie Wonder and Marvin

2: Ha ha.

Big Darrell: Gaye. That's the perfect comparisons. That's the perfect comparisons.

2: Well you asked Chat GT for you.

Big Darrell: No, no, no, no, I went down the list of Billboard top soul and R &B singers and that's the perfect, these are top 20 what I'm naming. So J. Cole is definitely Smokey Robinson, Dunny Hathaway for sure. They good, but he ain't like. He ain't he ain't in your stereo for real kindred is like when you think about stevie wonder and when you think about marvin gabe you think about revolution you think about great songwriting but more of like uh conceptual as smooth would like to say but then when you think of drake you think of like prince of michael jackson when you come in far as like outflow or um or production far as a lot of music being made but also a lot of top billboard hits being made and so that that's how i will compare those three Like it's a

smoo: Okay, for sure.

Big Darrell: different it's a different comparison like you can't compare Michael Jackson to a Marvin Gaye that that ain't no correct comparison like you can't say Michael Jackson is better than Marvin Gaye you can't say Marvin Gaye is better than Michael Jackson you can't say that but you can say Marvin Gaye is better than Smokey Robinson or Donny Hathaway and you can say Michael Jackson is better than a Donny Hathaway and Smokey Robinson that that's those are true statements you say who not

3eezy Bih: Well Mike's ass in the best ever, nigga. What the fuck you talking about? How you say that shit with ease?

Big Darrell: But you can't, niggas will argue Marvin Gaye was the best ever.

3eezy Bih: I'm telling you, you say you can't and I can easily give you reasons why Michael Jackson is the best elder.

Big Darrell: You can't say Michael Jackson is better.

smoo: Yeah, we gotta move to the next topic though, man.

Big Darrell: Okay, okay. But then you can't say Michael

2: There you go.

3eezy Bih: yeah. yeah, we gotta go to the Keller Rose and Beyonce topic.

Big Darrell: Jackson is better than Marvin Gaye. That's impossible to say. That'll never be true.

2: Niggle?

Big Darrell: You

3eezy Bih: I but I

smoo: Hey man.

3eezy Bih: heard enough from y'all boy to Beyonce what's it called shit. Move on, please.

smoo: So so country nigga you brought it you brought it up yourself.

3eezy Bih: I I know, but just you using that to make your point like damn smooth saying some smart shit.

smoo: So Country Wayne, Country Wayne been in the news lately. Like, you know, he said he got a billion streams on Facebook in a month.

Big Darrell: 1.4, yep, 1.4 billion.

smoo: Yeah, so he say he the king of social media.

Big Darrell: I agree and he's not even giving you his YouTube numbers because he he do the same thing like the videos he posts on Facebook he posts on YouTube and what he does is he is the king and I think I want to say he is the originator of vertical content like everybody say verticals verticals Country Wayne has been doing a vertical series for the past three to four years like and the shit tie into together and majority of the people are the actors that he has is to seven figure people. paid them like Hollywood pays like their actors and they act every day and he drops maybe like six to ten videos every day and each one of them get anywhere from 20 to let's say a hundred thousand per day and what he does is it's like a soap opera. Huh?

smoo: You sure about them number?

2: This nigga d this nigga freestyle these motherfuckers, boy. He he pays X.

Big Darrell: I lying to you bro, because I follow Country Wayne. I follow Country Wayne and I follow the series.

3eezy Bih: And

smoo: Okay. Okay.

Big Darrell: I guarantee you, smooth. Pull up on his YouTube or pull up on his Facebook, look at the last five to 10 videos he dropped. Like we pull up, like I said, Country Wayne, right? I'm gonna give you the ones he, I'm gonna give you the.

2: smoothing du.

smoo: Okay. No, I believe I'm I I just don't I just don't

2: No say I say you ain't built and say, Hey smooth, pull up.

Big Darrell: Look, look, look, but, but, but look, he dropped one,

3eezy Bih: So of course you know. I will hurry.

smoo: Yeah.

Big Darrell: he dropped one 52 minutes ago. That bitch on YouTube, that bitch got 10,000 views. 52 minutes ago, he dropped one, one hour ago, 11,000. Another one, one hour ago, 9,000. Another one, one hour ago, 13,000.

smoo: Damn, so he dropping content like that?

Big Darrell: Bro, this nigga, okay, today, hold on, hold on, just today. Okay, three hours ago, three hours ago. I'm finna tell you how many this nigga dropped today. Bro, this nigga dropped like, It ain't got craze back in the day used to be five to ten, but hold on. Hold on. on. this. Hold on So I'm gonna do 24 hours, right and in past 24

2: How do

Big Darrell: hours the nigga has dropped 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16

3eezy Bih: In my bank account.

Big Darrell: 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41

smoo: Damn, that's crazy, bro.

Big Darrell: 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 44 55 56 videos and the last 24 hours and the least one he dropped seven minutes ago that bitch got 1.5 thousand views he just dropped one seven minutes ago and that bitch got 1.5 thousand views on YouTube and then the most one

2: Fifty on it.

Big Darrell: Bro, like

3eezy Bih: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: 1600 views, bro. And then look, the most

2: Okay.

Big Darrell: that he got from yesterday, that bitch got 75,000 views from one day ago.

smoo: So he just, so he really, he really playing just a numbers game.

Big Darrell: He playing a numbers game and then he making each each video

2: Keep either in the market.

Big Darrell: tie into the next one So if you watch this one, you gotta watch the next one to know what's going on. He Oh, you know, you know, I want somebody in the deep Yeah

3eezy Bih: Yeah, he does like a series. He do that for all this shit though. Yeah, I know Contra one. I mean I he he to me he fell off to me he ain't as funny as he used to be.

smoo: Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. You can't you can't say you can't say fell off if you doing

Big Darrell: but he not even acting in these videos.

smoo: one point four

3eezy Bih: No, I say it to me. I did it say it to me. I say it to me.

Big Darrell: No, no, no, no, no. And look, look, you can say that, but then smooth. Let me add this for all the people that say Country Wayne fell out. It's cool if he fell out. He not even in there in one of these videos that I just said. He got actors. He ain't in there in one of these videos. Out of fucking 60 videos, he ain't in there in one of them.

3eezy Bih: No, I said I said that out of respect to him. I said to me, like he ain't he used to be like, I mean, that me that used to be me and Trey or Dog. Like that nigga used to like like funny funny. But then he kinda like

Big Darrell: Facts, facts, I'm with you on that, D. I'm with you.

2: I don't want to leave it for your own.

3eezy Bih: but I he I know he was the king of social media, but like smooth saying without even knowing, without a biased opinion, he do play the number game because a lot of people that was around his time had ventured out to do other things as well. Like Mojo Brooks was killing it at one point. But then he started going more towards, you know, now he never been country wine in social media, even though I think he could have been. But he do other things. He liked making his name and stand up and shit too. Which country wine did too. He had a Netflix special that Mojo Brooks never had. So it's kinda like like the school said, numbers game, doing he doing. I mean, I I I don't know how to really

Big Darrell: That's the link right there smooth. That's the link to to

2: yeah, next

3eezy Bih: Yeah, one country angel. It is a numbers too.

smoo: Yeah, you do.

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, he got Netflix specials. He got like two or three

2: damn damn I ain't seen it.

3eezy Bih: It won it is numbers. It won't I mean I ain't gonna lie to you, bro.

Big Darrell: But I agree with Dink, he not as funny as he used to be and he used to just do like what Druski do, like do one video or two videos of him being funny or him being, what's the little character he had with the little GNX, what it was. Damn, what's the nigga name? Yeah,

3eezy Bih: Tell me when he was a rapper,

Big Darrell: when he was the rapper, Drip,

smoo: Yeah.

Big Darrell: Drip, Drip.

3eezy Bih: Drill, drill, drill, doesn't that?

Big Darrell: Like, but he didn't, he didn't went on from that country. That nigga just started a whole, that nigga just started a whole network, right?

3eezy Bih: Yeah. Yeah.

2: Yeah

Big Darrell: And he got a group of act, I'm like, bro, it's so many people acting in this shit. You'll be like, how the, how the fuck is he doing that?

smoo: Yeah, I seen I seen like niggas like Eman Shrumper. He he over there working with him. Yeah.

Big Darrell: Yeah, bro, that's what

3eezy Bih: Yeah, he

Big Darrell: I'm trying

3eezy Bih: got broke.

Big Darrell: to tell you. Like the nigga Mike, he plays like...

2: that's the one he got in trouble about.

smoo: So so let me ask you this, like where does like where does where does country country wane because he like he's stating that like you know Hollywood don't even understand how he doing these type of numbers. You know what I'm saying? He doing 1.4 billion in a month is

2: Yeah.

smoo: crazy. You know what I'm saying? So like

Big Darrell: that's a month, bro.

smoo: yeah, he did it in a month. So so where do you take this? Like, where do you take this content like why hasn't nobody like tried to copy the formula or can you copy the formula? And I even seen some people like they were like saying like if they take away Facebook, then like what do what do what does Country Wayne do? You know? So like what is you know what what could happen from this, good or bad?

2: I don't I don't think it's

Big Darrell: I agree.

2: nowhere to take it, bro. I think you just keep doing it until you can't. I don't

3eezy Bih: Did it right, Paulo?

2: Yeah, for real. 'Cause I think what's

Big Darrell: And, and...

2: the boy what's my bad. What's the guy Kev on stage? I know like the one that's cool with Tony Baker. I

smoo: Yeah.

2: think I think Kev on stage did a video about like how much the numbers he was doing. It's like this shit is crazy. I think the it the output they do well well shit, I ain't gonna say they ain't country one if you put fifty six videos out of one motherfucker. That's crazy. Like

Big Darrell: That's what I'm saying, you can't compete with that.

2: you can't. And I th that's why but you like Tony Baker, 'cause I think the like you find something that works and you stick with it. I think Tony Baker now is doing like the I think everybody should just shut the he wrote it

smoo: Yeah.

2: 'cause p he know people like it. Everybody agreed with him who I just I don't know, 'cause you you can't 'cause it sometimes I think it doesn't translate all the time. I think I see them in like in a tubi movie. It wasn't to me Country Wayne's best show on the shit. So he went back to it. No, he went back to the bread and butter. And that's working. I think that's why online or social comedians are just doing posting like this more and more 'cause they see that's the formula and it They I think they used to like tick transition like Mojo, like you said, Mojo, kinda think he like from Mr. James to this to that and he he's just going whatever whatever works, they doing it. Cause I don't think it's yeah, like it's not it's

3eezy Bih: Yeah, Mr. Jane did work for me though. Yeah, anyway.

2: not a living color anymore the where we translate from here to here to here. It's n it's n is it's not no right path anymore. So you just gotta stick to what whatever works. And you gotta do.

Big Darrell: I agree. And then you got niggas like Faison Love was like, when Country Wayne was saying how much he was making, right? Faison Love was like, man, that nigga lying and all this. He's like, I do movies. I make residuals. And it was funny that Michael Blackson just recently, he showed the residual check that he got from Wild N' Out.

3eezy Bih: Well Michael Black paint the only one that did it.

Big Darrell: But. Okay, that's cool, that's cool, but

3eezy Bih: Yeah.

Big Darrell: Michael Jackson showed the residuals, While in a recent

2: Jackson.

Big Darrell: show, the nigga had couple cents, right? He got a couple cents, like each check was like cents, like 61 cents, 41 cents. So it just go to show

2: Seven dollars.

Big Darrell: that, yeah, you might get residuals, but it's just like streaming music. Yeah, you might get residuals, but that shit sometimes be pennies.

smoo: Hold on, hold on. So how How how I know I I heard Country Rain mention like, you know, Facebook pay good and all this. So how is Country Wayne able to, if you saying he dropping twenty to a hundred bands, how is he able to recoup that money? You know, cause you gotta think about it like shit, even, you know, just looking at like what's your boy name? DJ Vlad. He was saying like, you know. episode with him and you know Boosie he might make thirty five well not but maybe about fifty thousand dollars and he give Boosie thirty five and he only make fifteen in profit. So like how is how how would Country Wayne be making that you know that type of money and paying that type of those

2: I think I think one point four billion is my bad. I don't think one point four billion mountain flat th which which you would think in money, but I think it's a lot. But also I think

smoo: Yeah, I think I had I had I had put it in on chat GPT, I believe. I I had I had to look and see like what it amount to.

2: I think he chopped the he chopped the videos up though, you know what I mean? Nigga, the the

Big Darrell: He chops them up, yep.

2: the brick cost this much, man. How cut that bitch down and and and and sell it is different. And so he fit you know

smoo: Right. Digital dope.

2: what I'm saying, fifty-six videos, you do the price of it, you know what I'm saying? You

smoo: Yeah.

2: still gotta pay for it. But I also it the ca once after after this big corporation, once I can't do it here, I can't move it. I can't move it the same on on myself.

Big Darrell: And then...

2: People make a lot on Patreon but everybody's gonna pay no

smoo: Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, right, right, yeah.

Big Darrell: And then I broke it down for you smooth on. So. Country Wayne, he's been doing this for probably four to five years. He probably has the highest RPM payout on Facebook, right? Cause he does this shit every day. And so it says for a low payout, let's say for instance, you get 30 RPM. So that's about 450,000 a month. That's the lowest. But then if you have high RPM, so the elite high value niche, let's say for instance, it goes up to $5 and then that's a max of 7.5. So we do 400,000 to 7.5 million a month and we just, you know, we do the average of that. We just break it in half. That's like what? 3.75 million a month on just Facebook. And we ain't even talking about YouTube.

3eezy Bih: Facebook Facebook would say I often pay 400 to 3,000 per million views depending on audience quality. 2.4 billion views could be 960,000 to 7.2 million.

Big Darrell: and then majority of his

2: Thank you.

Big Darrell: views are coming from the US. And so if he pays his actors, let's just say for instance, he got people acting, maybe his lowest actor make 10,000 a month. Like who wouldn't wanna do these videos for 10,000 a month? Like then you got the bigger actors, like he paying, let's say for instance, he paid them 100,000 a month. You still eating.

smoo: Mm-hmm.

2: Yeah. And if he got recurring actors, they probably on contract. And d the that allowed him to to

Big Darrell: They probably on contract.

2: take a slow month.

Big Darrell: And so, and then he probably have to the point to where people are donating, not donating, but doing advertising, like, wear this shirt, wear this hat, wear this, that, paying that.

smoo: Yeah, that's another that's no

3eezy Bih: Well

smoo: that's yeah.

3eezy Bih: yeah, you know, I I that doubt, yeah, I do we talk about the I used to make small ships

2: Mm-hmm. War War Joe free.

3eezy Bih: and shit.

smoo: Right.

Big Darrell: Yeah, you know what I'm paid advertisement. So what Country Wayne is doing is like, that nigga is basically building his network. But I like the question you asked, Smooth, what if Facebook goes down? What if YouTube go down? And I always thought he should have a website, but who is actually going to websites now?

smoo: Man, that's a great question. I I think I asked somebody that the other

2: Great question.

smoo: day, I think I asked Raquel that I was like asking her like does she does she think websites are still valuable? You know.

2: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: I only think the websites that are marketplaces

3eezy Bih: Well tight. What's the thing?

Big Darrell: are valuable. Like YouTube is a marketplace. Facebook is a marketplace. Airbnb is a marketplace. Uber is a marketplace. Only websites that are valuable are something that's a marketplace that has a community and has services or content to offer. Like just going to a one-off website of just something, like saving 50 cent, drop a website, 50cent.com. You ain't really going there. You ready to find his shit on YouTube, YouTube music.

3eezy Bih: okay. I see what you're saying now.

2: Yeah, nah, 'cause like if you if if you're not

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I mean like just any

2: Walmart, you damn near you better off just said have your Instagram page.

smoo: Yeah.

Big Darrell: Yeah, Ohio, yeah.

3eezy Bih: Well Walmart well, Walmart marketplace too though.

smoo: Yeah, Amaz like Amazon. Yeah, you might as you better

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah, yeah, so so you

2: No that that that no that's what I'm saying. Like as long as you if you ain't with them

Big Darrell: Sup.

smoo: you be if you sell like if you sell cups, you better off just working with Amazon than going to make cup dot com. Yeah. Yeah.

Big Darrell: Facts, Cubs.com, yeah?

2: Yeah yeah, mother can remember used to be, you ain't got no website, you ain't got no link. Man, that shit certain certain shit is becoming outdated. It's crazy. The internet becoming outdated.

3eezy Bih: You know, a lot of people don't

smoo: Yeah.

Big Darrell: Thanks.

3eezy Bih: even make websites. Like certain businesses, that's what who was that I was talking to dude with China, he was like, Yeah, I wanna create websites for people. And I was telling him, bro, like people ain't paying for websites. Like anybody you know, as far as the domain and all that crap, ain't no wanna paying for it because you see, like you say, you should go to marketplace. Like,

smoo: Right.

3eezy Bih: why why would I?

smoo: Yeah, it I I think it's I think it it's it's more com like Daryl said, it's more community based. Like if you don't have a community, nigga, don't nobody wanna go to fifty cent dot com. You know what I'm saying? Like

2: Mm-hmm. Then what?

3eezy Bih: So hello. So ain't nobody going to my nigga built myconnect.com, man. They giving that nigga built pre-amortizing. He can do that shit on Amazon.

smoo: Hey, but look, even but even even to that point though, even to that point, it's like I mean shit, you better off just having a a little link where motherfucking can schedule. You know what I'm saying? Like it ain't

2: Yeah.

smoo: necessarily

Big Darrell: Facts.

smoo: about, you know, you know shit, I d had I done had a damn website with all my music, but what valuable is that if they could just go to YouTube? You know what I'm saying, and find the same shit, you know.

2: Yeah.

smoo: So it's just like, you know, and but that's what I'm saying. I think that's more that's more community based. So if you did have like if you did have maybe like a real community and people can they can go here, the latest updates, you know, just kind of like Tumblr. Like, you know, just something just

Big Darrell: Yup.

smoo: to keep keep your people interested. But as far as like one off people, hell no, I don't buy give a damn about no website.

2: Yeah shit. Even the big corporations, bro, you fuck around scroll on Instagram long enough or Facebook long enough, but they gon have the link so they know you ain't necessarily just gonna click on the website. You want this shirt? You want or you want a microwave? You want a lawnmower? It's gonna be on

smoo: Yeah. And that's another good reason for websites too, like, you know, merch and shit like that. So I think

2: Yeah. But you're gonna find it on shit that's like that you're accustomed to doing.

3eezy Bih: Facts like

smoo: Right, right, right, right. You're gonna find it on Instagram. Right.

3eezy Bih: no cap too. Cause

Big Darrell: Yup,

3eezy Bih: a lot of my cheese kids don't come from Fab Let's or NFA or the shop. That bitch come from Instagram. Me

smoo: Yeah.

2: Next.

3eezy Bih: going, you know, of course I buy and

Big Darrell: Yep.

3eezy Bih: send it to the website, but I ain't going to see let me see what Fab Legits got today. Not Fab Lady, but Fanatics got today.

Big Darrell: You seen it on Instagram

2: Well n nigga on that bitch nigga on that bit tryna watch fucking some rap shit.

Big Darrell: by the recommended feature,

smoo: Right.

2: They say you see Patrick Mahomes. damn this horror. I I'm gonna get this

3eezy Bih: yeah, I need it. Yeah, I need that. I need that. They got this piece what I seen earlier. Yeah, that bitch

Big Darrell: And see Smooth, I like the question you asked.

3eezy Bih: in the clerk. In the cart. Yeah. Yeah.

Big Darrell: Why can't Hollywood or why hasn't Hollywood done this right? It's because I think it will cost Hollywood too much. Like, and to

2: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: do that output production, like 60 videos a day is crazy. That's like,

2: Okay, you can.

Big Darrell: and then, and then are you even, like you say, are you even recouping? Cause country Wayne, what he do is he take a smartphone and record the videos. With Hollywood, I think it's so much of production costs and how it needs to be high quality 4K and all this country Wayne use a 4k on the iPhone record the shit you don't have to pay as much hold it you don't got boom mics you don't got voiceover is like one shot we do this shit and on to the next and so and so it's so easy for him to do that Hollywood I think it would cost too much and they wouldn't be able to cuz you wouldn't go to stars or you won't go to Paramount or Netflix to see a fucking vertical short video you will only do that

2: Yeah. Bro, 'cause you

Big Darrell: on Instagram and YouTube and that a cost too much for Hollywood feel.

2: And mind you make country wine shit fire. But if you if you saw some of that shit on Bill Zone, crazy same content, shot the same. You see that shit on Netflix, you want, man, what the fuck? I ain't spent twenty You see those you see though Tubi, it's cool.

smoo: Yeah, I think that and too, that's that that's that's that's that's important. That's important too.

Big Darrell: Facts!

smoo: That's important because he's he's built up his audience to to accept just like what he does. And if they changed it, if it became too professional, like, man, what the fuck is this man? This nigga this nigga got commercial.

2: Man, this nigga.

smoo: This nigga went commercial on us.

2: Or start nitpicking. This nigga ain't me and he got the same shoes on as last team.

smoo: Yeah.

Big Darrell: And then, then, and then smooth to keep him interested, he will, let's have answers. I come into the show. and then I do something that's very like profound in the show. What he'll do next is, let's say if it's like a month later, it'll be a spinoff on my shit. And so the camera starts follow me seeing what I'm doing. So everybody

smoo: Okay.

Big Darrell: basically has their own spinoffs on this shit

smoo: Right.

Big Darrell: and it all ties back in. Then I might fuck around and meet two around the city and then two get his spinoff. Like, and then we all come back and meet up one place.

smoo: Yeah. Yeah. Hey, he definitely he definitely paying writers. He definitely paying some writers. Yeah.

Big Darrell: He, yeah, yeah, he for sure that he

2: Yeah.

Big Darrell: paying writers and to the point that's what I was gonna say too. He paying writers to the point he ain't even hands on him or nigga don't, he might do one cameo.

smoo: So basically what y'all saying is basically what y'all saying is this nigga he he he basically taking an episode of Martin or Jamie Foxx show and clipping that bitch down to a minute or five minutes and then

Big Darrell: Yeah.

smoo: turning that bitch into fifty clips.

2: Man, he nickel bagging the fuck out that shit.

Big Darrell: Thanks.

3eezy Bih: Well I mean that's I mean, but that's what everybody does.

smoo: Yeah, I nah, that's what everybody does. No, everybody does it. But I'm

3eezy Bih: Dialogue do it, art do it. Yeah.

smoo: saying in a form of like ain't nobody doing it to to this extent.

3eezy Bih: Is well.

smoo: And we're not talking about podcasts. We're talking about a yeah,

Big Darrell: Facts. Content.

3eezy Bih: Mm-hmm.

smoo: we're talking about like

2: C'est vraiment.

smoo: a a show. We talking about a T V show

Big Darrell: Yes.

smoo: that he's just breaking it down and

2: Yeah. God th corporate. Yeah what corporate is.

Big Darrell: And then what's the crazy part is the only person we can see doing that that much in life for it's like podcast work is Vlad. Vlad the only person that.

smoo: Yeah, but we but but podcast is completely different. That's completely different.

Big Darrell: Thanks.

smoo: We talking about a nigga, we talking about a show.

3eezy Bih: My T V show one what one video we watching

smoo: Yeah, we talk about like

3eezy Bih: the Martin the Martin introduction next or we watching Martin actually walk into it, but then the next one we watching

smoo: Right, right, right,

2: Yeah.

Big Darrell: Yeah!

smoo: right, right, right, right. He clipping this bitch down to the to like

2: Ha ha ha.

smoo: nigga, it's like you walk in, you walk out the door, you sit down, like, nigga, it's 10 clips of that.

3eezy Bih: Brother ain't at the window, now you see him finally out there, bitch. He just on the on the on the fourth clip.

2: Nick. Nick is, bro,

smoo: Right. Hey,

Big Darrell: Yeah, that's

2: this is Nick. Neatness shows you plug your phone up.

Big Darrell: back though

smoo: but look though, but look though. But see, but see, that's what all right, so this what I'm saying. So this kind of like where it could get, like it could, like YouTube or Facebook, they could like start like, nah, man, unless this is a five minute clip, you don't get paid off of it no more. You know what I'm saying? They can start implementing bullshit like that. Especially when like niggas start showing their numbers and this, that, and the third. That means Facebook gotta pay out more because more people trying to do that same shit. And so it's like

2: Yeah. It's a dangerous game. It's a dangerous game.

Big Darrell: But where it comes in though, so this is the good thing in the area we live in. To get paid, and it's been for history, right? Advertisement. So

smoo: Yeah, yeah.

Big Darrell: the more people coming, the more ads is being shown. So Facebook getting paid, Country Wing getting paid, they love it. So.

3eezy Bih: That's I'm about to say, I don't think Facebook would change that, but they could. That's why I'm about to say it. Cause

smoo: So yeah, right, right, right. Right. Right. Right. Yeah.

3eezy Bih: if they paying that, that means they getting paid. You see what I'm saying? I'll pay you that couple grand. How much you say? You need 200 grand? Cool, because I'd have made two million up with you.

smoo: Yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Big Darrell: They getting paid paid. So if country Wayne making five million a month, Facebook probably making 15 off his shit.

smoo: Yeah. But that's but you know what's crazy though? And like we can kind of we can kind of segue into this conversation. how the fuck how the fuck do how how do people know what advertising is worth?

3eezy Bih: Thank

smoo: like no

Big Darrell: No, no, no, you're right. That's a good question.

smoo: but like how do you but this what

2: Yeah 'cause you I you do, you don't.

smoo: i'm saying so like facebook is essentially an advertisement company you know what i'm

Big Darrell: Yep.

smoo: saying so like or

2: True.

smoo: youtube is essentially a advertising company

Big Darrell: Yes, yes.

smoo: like why why would why would gang washing powder or minute made go pay a hundred thousand dollars for a slot And like, how do you know that you're gonna see a return on that on that YouTube slide?

Big Darrell: Okay, okay, so then I believe what it works is, so to show gain, gain is washing powder, right? Cleaning solutions. So you wanna show gain on anything that's dealing with being fresh, clean, clothing, nice. So I would show it on shoe content, I would show it on people that's unboxing clothes, unboxing new apparel, or anything dealing with... Apparel. Anything dealing with clothing.

smoo: But my question is, my question

3eezy Bih: Yeah, yeah, I don't yeah, hopefully.

smoo: is, how do you how does the company

3eezy Bih: You gauge the profit.

smoo: know what their ROI is?

2: Yeah. I think 'cause I think you can you can gauge the consumer. 'Cause they ask like through in between videos as, Hey, what have you seen lately? or they can get they can gauge like what you're into, what you they can do that or by the videos, but how does the company know that you're gonna spin spin the bread?

Big Darrell: So what they have is... no, no, no, let me quote you. I'm gonna just say this, I'm gonna throw this out. They have APIs, So when you click on an ad, it tracks what you do on that website. So let's say then you click on Gain, and then it'll show that, okay, you just looked at the first page and clicked off, right? Or you clicked three pages, and then you didn't buy anything. So what happens is, okay, he's interested. And then it shows your algorithm, or your YouTube, or what? Instagram algorithm, it says, okay, he like Gain. because he went click

3eezy Bih: Well

Big Darrell: and stayed on the website for one minute or two minutes and then they start re-showing that to you till finally you end up buying something off a game and then it tracks that and say okay it took this many clicks or this many times to show.

smoo: And they feed they feed they they systems and algorithms and data.

2: And so yeah.

3eezy Bih: Well, I was gonna ask you this though. I was gonna ask you this. My bad. Well he probably answered your question. I didn't think he did. I th I thought you I I that's about when you say you agree, I was kinda surprised 'cause I think I thought we kinda all knew that one.

smoo: I I see I see I see what he's I see what he's saying though.

3eezy Bih: I thought yeah, I thought my bad bro. I thought that I thought we all kinda knew that.

Big Darrell: But go ahead, go ahead.

3eezy Bih: I thought smooth were more asking as like, all right, so how do I can like country wine, right? I can give you this shirt, how much you gonna charge me, how do I gauge that price? Like are you saying that hey well I get this many views, I make this much, like I can get yo yo sales on skyrock, how much what's you know, how much would it go down if I what I'm losing, what I'm gaining. That's what I thought you were asking. I thought we all knew the algorithm formula shit that was going on.

smoo: I ain't understand that you just said, dang.

3eezy Bih: So basically I thought you were asking how can how do you what I got from your question. I thought you were asking how do you gauge somebody's worth of advertisement? For instance, with two on on phone home wearing an Iceman shirt. That's what I thought you was asking.

smoo: No, no, no that wasn't no. I was just asking how does 'cause you you Darrell didn't answer the question, but I like what Daryl was saying as far as gauging.

Big Darrell: I was gonna finish it though for the return on investment.

smoo: Yeah, he didn't he he just Yeah,

3eezy Bih: Yeah, that's the cookies and ABI yeah, yeah, yeah.

smoo: but what I'm I'm that still doesn't answer my question

3eezy Bih: E commerce.

smoo: of how does the advertiser know to pay a hundred thousand again.

3eezy Bih: That's what I'm saying. That's what I thought that's what I was asking. Like, if two, if Drake came to two talking about, hey, you know, you did this on phone home. People watch you, and my skin, my my profit went up 10%. I mean, my sales went up 10%. And now two, and them, now them boys in in talks like, well, hey, look, every time you go up, every time I wear your shirt, your shit go up to 10%. That's what I thought you was asking.

smoo: No, you said no, I know, no. I'm I'm not talking about what you're talking about. I'm talking about the 10%. That's what Daryl answered the question there. I'm not talking about the number is 10%. I'm asking, where do you what does that 10%, what does that information look like? That's what I'm saying. I know it's 10%, but I'm saying what does the data look like?

3eezy Bih: Like what's the word for that? That 10%?

smoo: No, I that's what I'm saying. It goes back to what Daryl was saying in like the the the APIs and the the

3eezy Bih: The cookies and shit. Yeah.

smoo: Bro, you trying to make it simple for but but but I

3eezy Bih: I mean but it's simple to me 'cause we learned that shit. So my fault on that. But I I assume that okay, I thought you knew that shit.

smoo: No, no, but it but it but it's not but but it's this it we're talking about the internet but it's I'm I'm talking about a commercial that I can see on the fucking the Super Bowl commercial. What makes somebody pay two million dollars off a Budweiser commercial? They do it every year. So it's not even just about the internet, bro. I'm saying you could be sitting down watching TV, Budweiser commercial come on. They pay two million dollars. Why do they what is their RI? To make them say, all right, let's pay that two two million again. I'm sitting down watching TV.

3eezy Bih: Well, I th well that's what I'm saying. Well, they go back to

Big Darrell: Thanks.

3eezy Bih: the two things. Like they know that my my it's just like with Frito Lake. We know I sell skyrocket through through the Super Bowl. So we put out a whole bunch of displays based off the year prior because we know that's when it's time to bring the the chicken home. That's that's that's when everybody minds. That's when to put your name out there 'cause everybody watching the Super Bowl. So it's just like with two if a bunch of people watch the ice man, I mean phone home and I see when he wear his shirt this shit that that's why I thought you was asking that question because I thought that's like that's what we're doing. Like you trying to see how much, why would somebody pay two million?

Big Darrell: Damn.

3eezy Bih: You trying to figure out what's the worth of two million. Like if I'm paying somebody two million does my profit go up this much? Basically what you're asking, right? I think that's what that that's what I see hearing.

Big Darrell: No, I I I I get I get what Smooth's saying. And smooth, smooth. And so and so I don't know why my camera did that. But before I refresh it, Smooth. Okay, so I got you, I

3eezy Bih: Yeah, yeah.

Big Darrell: got your perfect example. And I got what Dink was saying too. So Dink, so,

3eezy Bih: More pressure there, okay.

Big Darrell: so, so, so let's do Drake rollout, right?

2: Well yeah.

Big Darrell: How does Drake paid for this rollout? So

smoo: Okay.

Big Darrell: he paid, let's say for instance, Drake paid like 10 million or what was the number? Okay, so two got a shirt. So I guess he can mark it on how much shirts was sold on Amazon. Because he had an Amazon store up. How many albums he sold first week? Let's say that he sold 460 plus 100. Let's say 700,000 total first week just off the videos he did. And so how much, how much would that be? How much is I guess the album, $9? So let's do $700,000 times $9, right? Or times times $10

smoo: No, that don't really answer the question either.

Big Darrell: times $10. So that's that's about Let's just say seven million dollars, right? So

smoo: I'm not talking about I'm not talking about off a one-off situation though. Like I could I could I could do the math off of if I advertise versus how much I made and say, okay, well I paid 10,000 to advertise and I made thirty thousand. I could do the math on that.

Big Darrell: huh. So so so you saying but what what will make him do that again on his next album, right?

3eezy Bih: We'll make Yeah. So spoo, when they fall under what you do already for is real.

smoo: No, no, that's what I'm saying. Nah, what up that's what I'm saying. Like

Big Darrell: Right, right, right. So so so so Hold on hold on, let me refresh.

smoo: I I think the best example, I think maybe what maybe I'm confusing like the internet, but I'm just saying, like, I'm saying like in let's just take out the Super Bowl. Let's take out the Super Bowl.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, you're talking about in general, period.

smoo: Alright, watch this. Alright, so say if I'm sitting down watching TV, right? A goddamn tissue commercial pop up. Yeah,

3eezy Bih: Show the bear, that's

Big Darrell: Right.

smoo: Charming commercial pop up is a Saturday. What makes them say, Okay, you know what? See, let's let's keep dropping the commercials.

3eezy Bih: That the household name will make them keep going. Just like insurance, dude.

Big Darrell: But but but that's the same thing with Drake. Well why keep dropping the Iceman part part four? He dropped four of 'Cause cause it was gaining traction. He can see the the the rumors, the moon the meals, the clicks. It's not, cause it's advertisement.

3eezy Bih: No, I think that's two different things though, Darrell. Not to cut you out. I think that was just I think that was a series in a way. But I think Smooth talking about like instance

Big Darrell: No, no, no, no. It w it was a it was a so so so so you confusing series to advertised rollout. That was an advertisement

3eezy Bih: No no.

Big Darrell: for the album, and he dropped four of them. Why didn't he stop at one?

smoo: Well I think

Big Darrell: Ca 'cause he had you enticed to see the fourth one and he know you was ready.

3eezy Bih: Well can I actually can I come can I come

smoo: No, no, no. I don't think that's I don't think that's I don't think that's

3eezy Bih: with you with this one there?

smoo: helping I don't think that's helping me neither. I think

3eezy Bih: Can I come at you with deal from there? Can I ask you

Big Darrell: Talk to me.

3eezy Bih: this, Smooth? You bake what smooth saying is just a reverse story again. You I mean, res say story Saturday day, you chilling, watching the game, storm commercial. Come on. And he's saying, what makes them pick 10 different time slots that day for that commercial? And I would say.

Big Darrell: Is that what you're saying, Smooth? Hold on, hold hold is that what you're saying? What makes them pick Saturday to show this commercial?

3eezy Bih: No, just period. He just picked that day. I'm talking about period. What make you keep what make you keep

smoo: Yeah, yeah. Go on, go off.

3eezy Bih: going? Basically, right? Moon, why why keep paying for those?

smoo: Just go off, just go off, just go off.

3eezy Bih: All right. My thing is it's all about name home namesake. You become a household name. The more and more you see me, that's why I mean I'm learning this from Free O Late. That's

smoo: Okay. okay. Right. Right.

3eezy Bih: like because I used to be like, bro, why I'm putting two case two cases of Dorito t Dorito cases come seven in a box, two

smoo: Right. Yeah.

3eezy Bih: big ass bags. And we will put them bitches at the front of the store. Yep.

smoo: All right, so you're right. So you're right. What you're saying is right. That's true. But that's my point. How do you measure the ROI on doing that?

Big Darrell: Return on investment, right? On doing that, right? So so so so I guess at the end of the year. At the end of

3eezy Bih: Right. And I I feel like they become what's your name as a house? huh?

Big Darrell: the year, or or if you do monthly or you do weekly ROIs or you do audits every so so the all the way to no

smoo: But but okay, so my question is like how do you know what's working? Or do you just keep doing just keep doing it over and over?

Big Darrell: But but but but smooth smooth the only the only the only way you know it's working

2: I think j I think they do it more and w just keep doing it over and over.

3eezy Bih: Surveys

Big Darrell: is is because you have to do an audit. You have to see how much I made versus how much I'm spending on advertisement. Your advertisement dollars can't be more than what you made. So

smoo: Right.

2: No, but but but Daryl though, like if if I'm always doing it, I can't I can't audit what happens if I don't do it. How? How? No, that but no. Daryl, Daryl.

Big Darrell: You you you can, you can, and that's what they do at the end of the year. That's what they do. That that's what it that's how they compile the numbers.

2: But I did it. So I can't go I can't measure that until when I didn't do it because I'll always do it. Like what Dink just said about the the Doritos though. Like what the

Big Darrell: But but but but two too they don't always do it. They don't always do it.

2: Do you think i he's saying like alright What if I didn't put the Dorito bag in the front of the store? Would they still walk down the aisle and get it? Like we not measuring it. We just we just doing it. And and this works. Shit. What if I didn't do it?

3eezy Bih: Yeah, I I that's

Big Darrell: But

3eezy Bih: what so

Big Darrell: but

3eezy Bih: that so to to my point too.

Big Darrell: But two, but two, they are they are measuring it. And so so they have times to where they pay. Like so they're not paying 24-7. They might pay a slot for four months, right? I pay a hundred thousand dollars and I want this billboard right here for four months. And then after four months, before I re-up and give you another hundred thousand, let me see what I made. And then if it's working, I give you another hundred thousand. But if it ain't working, that's why you see billboards go all the time. time. And that's why you see billboards like in Mississippi, I'm gonna tell you who got it. Mars Bart, right? Mars Bart is on every damn billboard because he know it worked. Because he know he

smoo: But I but that but nah it don't necessarily mean he know it he knows it work, but to Dink point, the visibility, the visibility

3eezy Bih: It's the visible that's what I'm trying to tell you.

smoo: is like you don't know, you don't and that kind of to your point it is like in real estate because you don't know when that investment gonna pay off. And I think what I'm trying to figure is like, damn, what is the RY? Well maybe what I'm it maybe not, it's not an answer for when that. Visibility is gonna pay off.

3eezy Bih: The the thing is, so smooth, this is what I'm trying to tell you. So hold on hold on there. So so it it it does

Big Darrell: But but I think it does pay off because you go go ahead, Dean.

smoo: It does pay off, but I'm saying I I don't think you know wings.

2: Yeah, yeah.

3eezy Bih: to Darrell point, you do got something at the end of the year, but with Daryl is mainly so y'all two different arguments is he won't Smooth won't more up than down. Like how we know this in particular is it? And you're saying if you're doing it all the time,

smoo: Right, right, right, right, right, right.

3eezy Bih: and if you're doing it all the time, you will know it. But Daryl's saying, Well, basically at the end of the year, when my sales is higher from when that I'm gonna keep it going, but That's what I'm saying. He's not trying to get that answer because he know Hold on.

Big Darrell: Yeah, you only know on quarterly or yearly basis.

smoo: Yeah, that's my that one of my yeah, that wasn't my question.

3eezy Bih: So so and so he already know that answer because he know eventually other money gonna tell me how much to make. What I'm

smoo: Exactly. And I know I'm and no and w and what you said, I already know like the advertisers is working. If

3eezy Bih: Right.

smoo: if at the end of the year the advertisers gonna tell me that it's working.

3eezy Bih: Right. So far as what we did at Frito Lake, we will put them bitches, them them chips saving paces, right? Of the of a stack of Doritos. And people would not even pick off those. They will go to the chip out. But it wasn't for them to pick off that. We just wanted you to know who Doritos is, the ladies' name. Just like Geico. Geico got Geico got 15 of the same commercials, but we know it's a Fuck Geico. Let's not go with Geico. Let's go with Cloro. No, no, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna

Big Darrell: No, no, that that was a good one. Guy called progressive.

3eezy Bih: go with something simple as this. Clorox. Niggas don't even say go get the bleach. We're gonna either say Clorox. So the more and more we become that, our name becomes their product. Like when niggas say chip, niggas ain't is thinking about probably plain ladies, some lady type of chip, whether it's the Ritos

2: Yeah, what

3eezy Bih: or what, they all ladies. Niggas ain't talking about us.

2: Kleenex.

3eezy Bih: Cleaning. Kleenex not

Big Darrell: But C C

3eezy Bih: even that's not that's the the that's the name is the product now. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, you talk about Kleeneche.

Big Darrell: Go get some Kleenex. You ain't talking about tissue, you go get Kleenex. But but but

2: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: but but my thing is what what's getting me is when Smooth is saying the return on investment, how do you know it? Like explain that to me. what you mean by that, Smooth.

smoo: Well that's what that's what I was saying. I don't think you

3eezy Bih: That's what he was trying to get to. Yeah.

smoo: can I don't think you can really it's it's you can only explain it in dollars. So that's what I'm saying. You can only explain it at dollars at the end of the year. You know what I'm saying? But I don't think

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah, that that's what I'm saying, 'cause

smoo: you can't really but that but it kind of goes back to your point about like I think like the internet shit, like you maybe can you can figure out people tendencies, you know what I'm saying?

Big Darrell: Right, right.

smoo: But outside of the internet, like

Big Darrell: It's grass root. It's it's hard to measure.

smoo: You know what I'm saying? Like how the fuck how the fuck do you measure a like do you know that Levi commer commercial working? You know what I'm saying? Like

3eezy Bih: The Beyonce commercial would leave my fact.

smoo: how do you know that that's working in real time? You know what I'm saying? Only way you probably know it's working until the end of the year.

Big Darrell: Yeah, a and or or or look

3eezy Bih: I see, yeah.

Big Darrell: or look, you can know at the end of the or after that that shows.

smoo: And and which and and hold on, not just the not just the Levi commercial, was it the Levi Billboard? Was it the Levi commercial? Like what like

2: Mm-hmm.

smoo: what was it? And you don't really

Big Darrell: I'm I'm

smoo: know unless unless you do like marketing research and like you got a survey and you ask the

3eezy Bih: Yeah, very basic.

Big Darrell: Yep.

smoo: person why did you buy this? And they they say, Well, I bought it off because of the commercial, or I bought it because somebody was wearing it, like.

Big Darrell: Yep.

2: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: And then and then and that that that's one. But then also what you can do what you could do also

3eezy Bih: And that still ain't fair because I don't feel like doing that. You that you got trial in there real nick. So I so Smooth basically just saying like it ain't nobody seeing a Levi commercial and be like, shit, stop the Super Bowl. Let me go give me a pair of jeans. Yeah, I know what you're saying. I know exactly what you're saying. But I think it's just for namesake. That's what I think it's for.

smoo: Yeah, yeah, right, right, right. Right.

2: Right. And yeah.

Big Darrell: No, no, that that's smooth. But but but what they do is what they do dink

smoo: No, that's

2: And

smoo: a good point. That's a good point. But even the namesake, it it's it's

Big Darrell: That's how they measure it.

smoo: money in it. It's it's something in it.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like I like like

Big Darrell: But but so so did di this is

2: Yeah.

Big Darrell: how they measure it. So after the Super Bowl, you do a week you do a weak analysis.

smoo: That nigga you can see that nigga computer. You can see a computer in his eye.

3eezy Bih: Reading goddamn chat all over that nigga glass name.

2: Nick

smoo: Okay.

2: classes

Big Darrell: What

2: say.

Big Darrell: what what? That's y'all, that's y'all.

3eezy Bih: You gotta stop wearing glasses, there ain't gonna do that. Nigga

smoo: Shoot.

Big Darrell: Why?

3eezy Bih: ain't even looking at us.

smoo: you say that's us in the screen.

Big Darrell: Yeah, that's y'all. That's y'all. Look. That's y'all. Look, look, this smooth right here.

3eezy Bih: Nigga, I don't think one of our black asses in him glass.

Big Darrell: This smooth right here. Like Yeah. Yeah. That's

3eezy Bih: This this move right here, that on two ding ding right here.

2: It's more, yeah. Well you said that this this war right here.

Big Darrell: but but but smooth to ask your question. I I can turn it down though. But smooth to answer your question.

smoo: Yeah, I bet you can't.

Big Darrell: I believe what happens is they do a week

3eezy Bih: You turn down your brightness.

Big Darrell: analysis after the Super Bowl and they do a monthly analysis after that commercial is shown, you know it ain't gonna go right then that night, but the next day, the day after that, the day after that, are your sales increasing? Do you see a spike in sales? Do you see a spike in sales for this whole entire month? So Super Bowl is the beginning of February. So in February, are your sales increasing over the sales that you had throughout the give that you didn't run that Super Bowl commercial?

smoo: Yeah. And I guess the it all to me it all goes back to like, you know, like shit man, like these these advertisers, they making money. They gotta be making money. These businesses are making money because god damn, like

3eezy Bih: Yeah too. Yeah too. They making money, nigga. Yeah nigga. Yeah nigga. Nah, I'm saying too know why I'm saying that shit. Nigga

2: Yeah.

smoo: I mean see I mean you know like

3eezy Bih: used to make fun of me. Because I'm on the you I'm on

2: Right.

3eezy Bih: the right commercial.

2: I brought all the niggas that he told that shit to I said who was that perk? I said, What you wanna do? I mean I wanna make commercial.

Big Darrell: And so I I feel like advertisement is the key to to like why most businesses fail. Or even anything. Like the big the bigger the advertising dollar you

3eezy Bih: Yeah, two of the niggas making money, nigga, who stayed.

Big Darrell: can make a company, in my opinion.

smoo: Yeah, but I mean but god damn, like nigga, you talking about you talking about Facebook being worth motherfucking sixty something billion dollars and it's like god damn niggas out here paying that much in advertising? What the fuck is nigga advertising?

2: Right.

Big Darrell: They advertise it. Cause look, but then do you gotta think about this though smooth? Cause b back in the day.

smoo: And the and who the fuck is but all right, that goes to my point. Who the fuck is buying shit from the advertisement like shit? Like

Big Darrell: But but but smooth, back in the day we had advertisement on radio, advertising on TV. We don't watch TV no more, we don't listen to radio. How you get to your consumer, you gotta get on to social media. So everybody

3eezy Bih: Daryl.

Big Darrell: buy advertisement.

2: I think I think you have a smooth point though. Like, nigga ain't buying

3eezy Bih: Hey

2: off that, so what the fuck for?

Big Darrell: Hold on, you what you say what two?

3eezy Bih: Hey, how long y'all boy?

smoo: What's up, bro?

3eezy Bih: How long y'all boy? Hey, so we went to South Carolina last week or two weeks ago.

Big Darrell: Uh-huh.

3eezy Bih: cuz Lake Lake's Leg's sister's about to have a baby, so we just went to visit with her mom and stuff.

2: Okay, Kaleki, shut up.

3eezy Bih: So yeah, so so I'm I'm at I'm at my boy's house at at her house at Lake's sister's house, whatever. So I'm watching, you know, I'm a early bird, so I get up. So I'm watching Netflix. And that bitch had an ad on it. Y'all ever seen that before?

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah. Netflix the the the the lower tier version has ads.

smoo: Yeah, yeah. I was just talking about that today. It's like regular T V.

Big Darrell: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: I never knew this was your head.

2: You got the you

smoo: yeah, that

Big Darrell: But see

2: you you got the suspicion where it don't I don't like I don't see ads on it.

smoo: Yeah, so the regular the sub regular subscription is twenty five dollars. So I deleted that one and then I went to the eight ninety nine through Verizon and so it looked like T V, like it's regular commercials.

3eezy Bih: Man, for real.

smoo: Yeah. And see, I

Big Darrell: Yeah.

smoo: watched that bitch I watch

2: Yeah.

smoo: that bitch like I'm in the nineties.

Big Darrell: To me, but look, I'm I'm with you, Smooth. To me,

3eezy Bih: I see my.

2: Hey, hey, Dick, Dick was always up over there, bitch by cottage broke as hell.

Big Darrell: to me, I miss

3eezy Bih: Man I I mean

Big Darrell: I miss it.

3eezy Bih: I'm in this bit like man, what's the am I on YouTube and watching that thing? I'm watching

smoo: No, they're big boy.

3eezy Bih: Nemesis with fucking commercial

smoo: Nigga, I was about to nimes his week commercials too. See it, boy.

3eezy Bih: I forgot what happened.

smoo: Man, but Shit, I don't give a fuck. I'm not paying no twenty-five dollars. I'm not paying twenty-five dollars for no goddamn Netflix.

3eezy Bih: I mean

Big Darrell: I agree.

3eezy Bih: I I get it though, but

Big Darrell: I agree.

3eezy Bih: I didn't know Netflix had that though. I guess I always been having what you call it, never know realize it.

smoo: Yeah. Yeah.

Big Darrell: And me, and me smooth, I feel like I feel like our life

2: You been having your way.

Big Darrell: is ran off advertisement because you don't know what to go and get if you haven't seen it on the ad.

smoo: I mean, but all right, but so all right, so that's to that point. That's to that point right there. All right, so you talk about Netflix. I'm glad we you brought this up. So you watch the Netflix episode. They got, nigga, I don't even know what fucking ad was on. I don't know what the fuck I I just seen in the the last the 30-minute show. So it's like like how do you why would you go pay a hundred thousand dollars for that slot for a nigga like me. I don't know what the fuck like I don't know what the fuck I just watched.

3eezy Bih: It's the name, bro. Trying to tell you.

2: If if anything, I'm pissed off that y that it's right here.

smoo: But that's what I'm saying, D. That's what I'm saying. My bad, my sinuses. But that's what I'm saying. You paid, you paid Netflix a hundred thousand, a hundred thousand dollars. How do you how are you gauging? That's what I'm saying. How are you gauging that your sales went up from the Netflix shit to do it again? That's all I'm saying.

2: I don't think they do. I

Big Darrell: And then and then and then they they probably doing it per per impression. Impression is like a thousand people. So you might not buy nothing smooth, but the person that watched after you probably did. Or the person that's watching simultaneously as you, they probably did. So so I I just Only way you can know is by yourselves and and you know that it's working because they keep running it. And also you cannot your advertisement dollars cannot exceed your profit. Cause if it does, you don't got no company.

smoo: I mean I I'm not yeah.

2: Not I disagree. I disagree, bro. I think but cause man, I'm not clicking, I don't care how it is. I'm not clicking off show to buy some shit. But I'll I I'm not clicking

Big Darrell: Uhhuh, you you say you said what two? You not

2: off no show to buy some shit. But I also think that they I they can't risk not keep running advertising.

Big Darrell: But but okay, so two, if you run advertisement and you don't make a profit, what happens to the company?

2: But but no that's that's what we're saying. We're saying they're making profit, but they can't pinpoint if if this is doing it. But by but

smoo: You're right. That's my that's my point.

2: but by you not being able to point.

Big Darrell: They they can 'cause they hire data analysts. That's what data analysts are.

2: I might but I'm saying I might buy because I seen it on Netflix. But I didn't How many people ain't gonna stop looking and watching Mozart to go buy something? Nobody. But that's probably what's sparked the idea.

Big Darrell: But like, okay, so if you a lot of those ads, right, if you're watching on your computer, you can click on those ads. Some of those ads are interactive.

smoo: Yeah, but I think that's but I we but

2: Yeah, but I'm saying what how how can you calculate

smoo: but but like I said that's just I'm not even talking about it in that day now I'm just talking about like like

3eezy Bih: No, yeah, that was it. That's I think I

smoo: Dink said I'm sitting here I'm watching TV it's ads in the middle of the TV and it's like nigga nigga who you paid for this slot you paid you paid Netflix $200,000 for this slot and how do you know it's gonna work and so I think that's

3eezy Bih: Like I told you

smoo: conversations I think that's conversations like well,

3eezy Bih: I think that's a good night.

smoo: okay, like with us being phone home. You like, hey man, man, man, hot ninety seven say they got a slot. We get it, we get a I mean shit, we could take it, we could take it to the fucking and and that kind of goes to the point of why people ask you where did you what did you where did you hear from us? You

3eezy Bih: yeah.

smoo: know what I'm saying? Google, T

2: Mm.

Big Darrell: Yeah.

smoo: V, da da da. That kind of that kind of helps them.

3eezy Bih: Indeed, I don't know.

smoo: Yeah, like

2: Right. Co

Big Darrell: Yeah.

smoo: that kinda helps

2: worker.

smoo: still figure out. Cause you get on the radio and it's they got the nine

Big Darrell: Yeah.

smoo: one one come get your car fixed. Now you know what I'm saying? Like you like nigga, like yeah

Big Darrell: You know the new one is? Top dog law. Top dog law.

3eezy Bih: God. That's what I'm saying.

smoo: top dog long, you're like nigga, nigga, what like how what is this really working for top dog?

3eezy Bih: It but but yes.

Big Darrell: And top dog, top dog so crazy cause that did they have iHeart Radio ass. That shit is on every radio station across the nation. I heard that shit in Mississippi, I heard that shit in DC, heard that shit in and Yeah, I hear that shit

3eezy Bih: This in Virginia. I listen in this week.

smoo: Right.

Big Darrell: in Denver. That shit crazy to me.

smoo: Right,

3eezy Bih: Like like like I

smoo: right, right.

3eezy Bih: said though, smooth, I promise you. I I I'm sure it's more than what we know, but I really believe it ain't no it I really believe it ain't due to like monetary or profit. I think it's just the reason that we doing what we're doing right now. The first thing we thought about law, it was top doll law. That's at the front of our head. It

smoo: Right.

3eezy Bih: used to be Richard Schwartz. Y'all remember him back in Mississippi?

Big Darrell: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: When it rich schwartz with the law one call.

smoo: I remember Morris Bart.

2: No more.

Big Darrell: Mars Bart. You knew when I said Mars Bart.

smoo: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: y'all yeah, that was for the coach. That was for the coach. For for Jackson, it was Richard Schwartz, one call, that's all. Yeah. So he used to run that. Yeah. Or I give you one, I give you another one. We we I put

smoo: yeah, I heard him too. Yeah. That's a great curve, Paul Paul. Y'all remember that nigga?

Big Darrell: yeah, yeah, I remember that too. One call, that's all. Yep.

2: yeah yeah. He's talking my leg, yeah. yeah. Kick kick the R V. Then that boy probably I

Big Darrell: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: I put like this, that's how I know it worked. We ain't used none of these niggas that we name it. And we know top that outlaw, the two that I just said and one y'all just said, and then all of us know this one, Morgan and Morgan. So

Big Darrell: Yep.

3eezy Bih: I mean I think it's that's what I think it's for.

smoo: Morgan and Morgan still ain't. I put a lawsuit in for Morgan and Morgan two years ago. I still ain't got

Big Darrell: Ha ha.

smoo: paid. Finally, bro, finally finally use them niggas. Finally use them niggas. Man, still ain't got no money back from them niggas, man. Yeah. Yeah.

3eezy Bih: But you heard they had though.

2: ass nigga piggy cut because you thought it was legit

Big Darrell: And look, and look, but look, but look, and he used they service, and he used they service, and smooth used they service.

3eezy Bih: Gotcha. Hey, them nigga probably even no law for him, too.

Big Darrell: Hey, hey, smooth, smooth, smooth heard about and used they service.

3eezy Bih: Hey, don't nigga probably need to know long term. Hey, they think we have to

2: Damn, who did it?

smoo: And man, them

Big Darrell: And see

smoo: niggas man, them niggas

Big Darrell: and see everybody don't use it, right? Like two say he he ain't gonna click off and buy. But then you might click on Instagram and buy some shit. I'ma click off and buy some shit.

3eezy Bih: I I know.

smoo: see now I know new era, new era, but but they they all deep through my algorithm. Nigga,

3eezy Bih: They got some feet off your build too, smooth.

smoo: it don't it don't matter what I go through, a hat pop up, hat pop up.

3eezy Bih: Hey.

Big Darrell: That's what I'm saying. I'ma buy some. I'ma buy some.

2: Man.

Big Darrell: If I like it, I'ma buy it. They show me some tick or something.

smoo: No, I'm not saying I'm not saying it don't work, but I'm just like I'm just trying to figure out like what's the return on investment. I think that's just a Yeah, I think that's just an interesting conversation.

3eezy Bih: You just trying to see the numbers on it, yeah.

2: Yeah yeah. 'Cause I I

Big Darrell: And and and

2: wasn't I wasn't saying that

Big Darrell: and you you saying it, you saying it too, Smoo. They put they put them surveys out. I think they have data analysts that that r research every time they run an ad. And I think they run test ads too. Like say for instance, they

smoo: Yeah.

Big Darrell: might they might just show this this ad on Netflix only first. They not they might not show all of them together. They might just show it on Netflix and see what the sales do.

smoo: Yeah, yeah.

2: Yeah, I think like I think he was saying like 'cause my just because I don't click off and watch go buy it, doesn't mean I might send my black ass to Walmart tomorrow. You know what I'm saying? So how do you gaze you can't how do you track that?

Big Darrell: Now see, see, see you couldn't track that. You couldn't only way you could track that is if they only ran that ad on

2: I think but that's that's the question though.

Big Darrell: Netflix and you went out and bought it.

smoo: Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, that's the question.

3eezy Bih: The question though. That's what the that's what he questioned. And

smoo: That was the question.

3eezy Bih: that's why my answer that's why my answer is strictly main. I'm not saying that I'm right or wrong, but that's really what I think it is. I think it's just I want you to remember who the fuck I am for when you go shopping.

2: Good.

smoo: Right. It's a long it's a long term game. It's a long term, yeah.

2: Yeah, yeah.

Big Darrell: I I agree with that too, Dink. Facts,

3eezy Bih: Yeah.

2: Yeah, that that

Big Darrell: facts. As long as you as long as your profit is more than your And look and look, as long as your profit

2: that's what I was saying. You can't risk not doing. Enough.

smoo: Yeah, we've been on the pile long enough. It's time to get off this bitch.

Big Darrell: it exceeds your your advertisement, you can continuously run it. Because all you trying to do is stay in profit.

smoo: Right, for sure, for sure. So that's what I'm saying. So at the end of the day, at the end of the day, it does not matter what we do.

Big Darrell: Facts.

smoo: As long as the profit is we're gonna keep doing the same shit. You know?

Big Darrell: Facts.

smoo: So I mean at the end of the day it don't matter if you make a profit. They gonna keep doing

2: Yeah. If I'm if I'm in the profit nigga, I don't know what got me here, but shit I'm doing here. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. I'm doing

smoo: Exactly, exactly.

3eezy Bih: No, we ain't gonna change.

2: the same shit again next.

smoo: Exactly.

3eezy Bih: But you know you know what though too, 'cause one car company don't even have the don't put as much ads out. They still you just know their name, Cadillac. Yeah, Cadillac don't even you know.

smoo: Well that's that that's that's the brand. You know, when you talk about yeah, not Cadillac but what is not BMW. Nah, it's one of those

Big Darrell: Dodge okay.

smoo: high high big brands. Mercedes I think Ben, Mercedes Benz. Dodge. I seen a Dodge commercial yesterday.

2: They're on the they don't

3eezy Bih: Niggas said Dodge. Niggas said hi in Dodge. That nigga going through it, man.

Big Darrell: That Ram. I'm talking about that new RAM they just dropped.

3eezy Bih: Man, I've been wanting a dodge Durango my whole life.

2: That boy from Pancola for real.

Big Darrell: Hey, hey, that da hey, they about to come out with that new Ram that motherfucking Rumble bee. That bitch look nice, boy.

3eezy Bih: Yeah.

2: Alright, it's out the mud.

3eezy Bih: He said, yeah, it wasn't the high end call. Yeah, be.

smoo: Right. Nigga said Mr. Bishop.

2: yeah, we have

Big Darrell: Hey, the Rams is the new

2: to mood.

Big Darrell: high-end cause. I ain't gonna lie to you, nah.

smoo: That nigga said Mr. Bishop. You them high end cars, Mr. Bissy. Hey man, phone home, man. Phone home,

Big Darrell: Yeah.

smoo: man. Good episode,

2: huh, no.

smoo: dude.

Big Darrell: Yes, sir.

3eezy Bih: Ai, Jambo.

smoo: Yep.