Should Shedeur START Over a $60M Quarterback?
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smoo: Yo, what it do, man? It's your boy Smoot, AKA Mr. Do What It Do, AKA Always On The Move, and this is episode 71 of the Phone Home Podcast.
2: What's up man? It's your boy Tubin Never Sick and man. Just left the junior high ghoula can never die alone. It's your boy Tubala. Three, what's happening with ya? And I'm glad to be back.
3 god: Hey, shout out, boy, appreciate it, Bob. Glad to have you back, boy. You know who it is, though. It's eighty three, not the number, but the name three guy three stay on the shoulders, man. What y'all boys up to? I let the kids.
smoo: Hold on, this nigga ding does not have on chief's gear. What the fuck?
Eric: And and it actually look a little funny, don't it? It
Big Darrell: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Eric: it kinda look weird.
2: Mm-hmm.
3 god: Cheese bro, I wear cheese girl a lot of the times, not all of the time. You heard me?
Eric: Hm mm, yeah, yeah.
2: And a nig nigga clean and still don't look right. That's crazy.
smoo: This thing is clean today!
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: Hold on, I be clean in the cheese good. What you mean, homie? Cheese, cheese got the clean it fit. I go change him a cheese cooking apron right now. Let him cook. You heard me? See.
Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
2: Nah, you do behe How long? Let's see. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Big Darrell: Yeah.
smoo: you
Eric: Yeah that They're red and yellow. let let cook. Let cook.
smoo: You got a new hat?
Wills On The Tank: Lord
2: Ha ha ha.
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Wills On The Tank: Praise to most high, man. This your dog
Eric: Mm-mm.
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Eric: Jezorski
Big Darrell: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's your boy Big Dad Alive from the Love. Let's get it. Episode seventy one. Let's run it.
Wills On The Tank: Seventy one, seventy one.
smoo: Yes, sir. Yes, sir, man is generational wealth really generational you see the the Lakers just sold for 12 billion dollars They got a lot of people in the uproar that they are the Jerry Bush family decided to sell but when is it the right time to sell?
3 god: Ho hold hold on hold on so they that the family sold but Jenny's still part of it. Well she she she can't Yeah she c yeah
smoo: She her little small portion. But it's the overall picture though, Dink.
Wills On The Tank: Sure.
3 god: yeah yeah I mean
Eric: Man, that's crazy.
3 god: shit wasn't the right time to say
Wills On The Tank: Twelve billion? Twelve billion? That's generation. That's gener hold on, my
3 god: Twenty billion. How much was it?
2: Hey. I think
Wills On The Tank: bad.
Eric: That is that is the legacy.
2: Hey, I think you got you got a point though, Dink. You got a point though, Dink. We c we'll talk we'll circle back.
Wills On The Tank: That's that's generational right there. Like it's over.
smoo: How many dinner rations do you want? God damn!
Eric: Quell billion?
Wills On The Tank: It's over. They did it.
3 god: Hey, so Tama.
Eric: At some point you gotta
2: They won't.
Eric: take profits. Hey, I listen, I listen, I listen to Market Mondays
smoo: my god, damn!
Wills On The Tank: I think they did it.
Eric: every Monday. And dog, my dog Ian Invest, right? My dog Ian, he he always say, at some point, nigga, you gotta take the profits.
smoo: N***a, it did what it's supposed to do.
Eric: What else
Wills On The Tank: Man,
Eric: do where else do we go from here? Where else?
Wills On The Tank: it's over. Like we was, and like that's it.
smoo: What you gotta say, D?
Eric: We won, we up you know what I mean?
2: man.
Eric: Twelve Billy? man, Billy Talk, Billy Talk, you know what I mean? That's get
3 god: Was it was it twelve or twenty? How mu how mu hold up.
Wills On The Tank: Some nigga said what?
2: Boy God bless the day. We beat
Wills On The Tank: what what
2: him.
Wills On The Tank: QC sold his company for three hundred million? like
Big Darrell: three hundred million.
Eric: Who?
Wills On The Tank: what like it's over.
3 god: Hey smooth. Was it with it twelve or twenty?
smoo: What's up, It's 12.
3 god: Twel okay, yeah, twelve, okay, yeah.
2: Twelve and twenty different?
3 god: No, I didn't know what he had said. I I couldn't remember what he had said. I couldn't remember the exact number. No, but I do gotta say this though.
2: Man, Jamarcus said we beat him, boy. We we we outta here, man. We I get it. I get it.
Eric: I personally, yeah.
3 god: I do I do gotta say this though. See, and y'all thought I was tripping last week about the two Billy. So what I'm saying is, the shit is I'm not. No,
Big Darrell: But we talking about just for you, that's for their whole family.
3 god: no, no, no, Darren. I was talking about my whole premise of me saying it. the shit is
Big Darrell: okay, okay, okay.
3 god: it like. 12 12 billion is heard of now. That's what I'm saying. One billion was considered unheard of. Now niggas making twelve. So that I ain't saying that I I still didn't overdo it. I'm just saying that was I had
Big Darrell: Niggas making trillions.
3 god: I had a legitimate
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Eric: SpaceX IPO'd at a trillion dollar company. That's that's crazy.
3 god: that's what I'm saying. I feel like that was that was a that's a legitimate say two bill now, cause it's like shit. This shit seemed like it's it's obtainable. I ain't saying I'm gonna obtain it, but shit. But
Wills On The Tank: Hm. Hm.
3 god: But but anyway, so what I think about that anyway, just in 'cause Jenny Bush she kept her share or trying to. I think she in some legal battle or something she's gonna w I can't remember.
2: Cheers.
3 god: Yeah, so so I don't know if she got like if she she gave it up all of it yet or whatever. But it's just hey, with that going on, that's just showing you that bro, we might not have the Kobe's and shit no more ever again. The the Tim Duncans and shit ever again. 'cause it's
Big Darrell: You don't think so? What about Wimby Yamba?
smoo: Well, the question the question the question
3 god: No, I ain't talking about Skill Wass.
2: Nigga, what?
smoo: is more so about generational
2: No, he
smoo: wealth though.
2: Yeah, the question about I think but I think
3 god: well yeah, well my bad. Yeah the question is my bad, I would get now, that was our subject. Yeah. Appreciate it, smoothie. That's why you the bother me.
2: It was Nah it's it's kinda on subject, but I think like this this offsh off subject too. But it shows that I we had a question about this later. Well earlier rather, when we were speaking about when you say forget the people that gave you these opportunities and like, hey, let's make the smart decision. If they make if they getting the cheese, everybody getting the cheese, why genny genie probably trying to hold on to it because one of the older buses like I don't care man, I'll pass this down but do not sell, Keep it in the family.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
2: You know what
Eric: Mm.
2: I'm saying? It reminds me of a like of
3 god: Yeah, absolutely.
2: it remind me of Palace Google when I don't know the ins and outs, but I know, but I ain't gonna make a joke about it, but they sold they sold Jerry Lee's fairly quickly at the Buddy went away, you know what I mean? So
smoo: Yeah, so how do y'all feel about generational wealth being passed down?
Eric: I think I think people don't really realize this stuff is work. let's just take something as simple as a house. You pass if I got two houses and I pass down to my n nieces and nephews and they like Man, like what? And they just I think it's a difference when you talk about inheritance and almost stewardship. You know what I mean? Like
smoo: Explain it.
Eric: like yeah, when you huh? When you
2: Good point, good point. That's a good point.
Eric: yeah, when you a when you inherit something, you know, it's like, I mean I inherit it. Like, I don't know. I I don't have no c emotional ties to it. I didn't work hard for it. I didn't you know what I mean? In some cases you didn't even see your mom or your dad or your uncle or your aunt work as hard as they did to maintain it. So It but it's different when you when stewardship stewardship is more, you connected to this. It's like this is this is this is the this is the the thing. This is how we eat. And I think
3 god: Yeah.
Eric: that is harder to teach on generations and generations and generations, right? Especially if you, you know, like
3 god: Yeah.
Eric: the family ain't aligned with that. So that ha that has to be actually groomed in a family. And also I I like I don't even think it's more generational as far as the like generational wealth. It has to be generational teachings. It has to be generational grooming, you know, over time. huh
Wills On The Tank: That's I was that's what I was getting. Yeah, I said the same thing. That's what I was literally thinking the same thing. Like no no no listen no listen. I'm gonna tell y'all something. This is this is the this is
smoo: Look at look at Willie-o, look at Willie-o. I WON!
Wills On The Tank: the real deal. Eric says a lot of the things that I think. Like I it's funny I call that nigga Eric. But Bill Bill No, he I and I
Eric: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I I was with you, Willie. I I took that thought straight from out your brain, bruh.
Wills On The Tank: And I ta and I told you that before, man. I said, man, you
Eric: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: say the stuff that I think about. You know what I'm saying? So it that that's true. it's it so, just
Eric: Facts. Yeah, facts, facts.
Wills On The Tank: yeah.
Eric: Yeah. But that's all I
3 god: Yeah.
Eric: had to that's how I feel about it. I think it's more so inheritance, it's it it's finicky, right? You might have a genie bus in the family who just see this as an opportunity to like, yo, I'm gonna work this and I'm gonna make it better. But then you also have Joe Blow yo, we came up on two houses, how can we flip fast, So I
Wills On The Tank: Mm, mm, mm.
Eric: don't know. That's that's that's that's a that's a slippery slope. That's a slippery slope.
2: Yeah. I'm I'm glad we seen this in real time with some with a family that's worth billions. The versus like you know what I'm saying, it's people are demon like ignorant. Man, we ain't selling greenhouse. You know what I'm saying? And it's it's the it's just the same, it's feelings attached, you know what I mean? More so, you know
smoo: So why don't you think that people want to sell Granny House?
Wills On The Tank: Sometimes it has I think my bad, go ahead. I was just about to say that. You you said it again. You did it again. you you took the word
2: Fit.
Eric: sentimental value. my bad. I just man, it's sentimental value. yeah, go ahead, Willio. My bad. I don't wanna take all your ideas.
2: Send one of that.
Wills On The Tank: no, you took it out my mouth. You took the words. Like I was just gonna say sentiment to say, man. Yeah, but
smoo: Whoa! That's crazy! That's a double paw!
2: Whoa.
3 god: à uma alguém.
2: It's
Eric: Mm-hmm.
Wills On The Tank: Man, sometimes, you gotta think about, grandkids grow up and most of the times, granny be the glue of the family. If we just using this example, Sometimes, even if you watch that movie Soul Food, that I know Dink always say I can get on me by making movie references, but what happened when Big Mama left? saying the family just fell apart. So a lot of times, when granny grandma grandma house, it's like when everybody came together, everybody, you know i it it's just like a a s it has a lot of sentimental value. So when if granny ain't around, sometimes people just be like, Well, we we we gonna sell it 'cause what the family do the first time when when when she left, either they they was thinking about d just it's everything just kinda scattered. Everybody wasn't on the same accord. So I I think in terms of not selling it, it's sentimental value. But then you have some other people that'll be like, you know, listen, We could get a quick flip out of this. I could get I could get a piece. You can get a piece. And it's just really about mindset, not to just ramble because I know that's what I'm doing, but that's that's my little two cents about it.
2: Yeah, I I think general
3 god: It's is is
2: I think generation of wealth is like amazing, something you should strive for. But I think like when he we come from we start talking about something that wasn't necessarily deriving from you and like the person that it came from want these things that's when this and that you sh you pulling you pulling heart strings, you pulling but she let this paper but just like also like from granted we probably ain't getting no much money but we probably elate we could probably elevate for about a couple of months. But Jeannie
3 god: Yeah.
2: I don't straight. Well we're gonna be straight regardless. You know what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: Right.
2: So it's it's two different it's two different lives, atmospheres, but
Eric: Yeah.
2: it's still the s it come down to the same thing, bore down to the same thing. Man, 'cause shit, you we talking about soul food, you know, that was they grandpops too, you feel me? Or that was they had
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
2: grandparents in this too, you know what mean? It just
Eric: Yeah.
2: they just was rich. We ain't think about collagens with them, you feel me? So, but it it still it's I think it stemmed from the same spot.
Eric: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: But
smoo: What you doing there?
3 god: Yeah.
Big Darrell: About about the generational wealth. What is generational wealth?
smoo: Yeah, and just your thoughts on Generation Will.
Big Darrell: No, no, no. Say the question how how the question is. I want you to re- say the question how the question is.
smoo: Is generational wealth really generational?
Big Darrell: I I I think so. I think if it's the if if it's the right type of wealth, if it's the right type of business, right? say for instance I'm gonna say fan everybody know this example, but the Rockefellers, right? They have all, right? They family gonna eat for the rest of their lives, right? And then I think they have and when you have so much money, right? You have The right people around you. You have the right business minded people, the right bankers, the right investment groups to the point to where, say for instance, like Jay-Z, right? There's no way he'll he'll ever go broke. Because you you you have the right people around you. And I don't think it's is ever a reason why his kids would go broke either. Because let's just say, for instance, okay, let's say he got a billion dollars, right? If he just take a hundred million and make 10% off that. for the rest of his life and just give his kids the 10% interest that he's earning. And then and he signs in his will to always keep it in this in this particular business, trust or whatever on fun that's paying that percentage. So I think once you get enough money, it it's impossible to go broke. Or it's impossible for your family to go broke, your immediate family, right? But
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
Big Darrell: I I I do think but like things like what black people leave down like like Grandmother home, right? P your kids don't want your toe-down home, right? But they would want 10% of a hundred million dollars. you, you get what I'm saying? And they they can go do
Wills On The Tank: Right on.
Eric: Yeah.
Big Darrell: whatever they want to do. And so, or
3 god: Mm.
Big Darrell: or if it's like a particular business, like on like you said, the Lakers. Who wouldn't want the Lakers? It might be a point to where basketball becomes obsolete, but then you will just transfer that money to what's hot now, whether it's soccer
Wills On The Tank: Mm.
Big Darrell: or any other sport. But I think
Eric: Yeah.
Big Darrell: generational wealth is essentially generational if it's enough money. Like a million dollars, that's probably not generational. Ten million, probably
Eric: If it's the right thing. Yeah. Yeah.
Big Darrell: not generational. Maybe two to three generations. But like when you come to the hundred millions and the billions,
Eric: Yeah.
Big Darrell: I think you can make that generational. For sure.
Eric: So what's real
Wills On The Tank: Right on.
Eric: so what so what I'm hearing is here is the what generational wealth is, is the real the real bag is teaching your family h
Wills On The Tank: That's what that's what it is.
Eric: what how to manage money, where to put it, how to right? Because okay,
Big Darrell: Right.
Eric: so the flex is not leaving your my kids five hundred million, which that
Wills On The Tank: Whole bunch of money.
Eric: is a flex, right? I dn the nigga can't say that. That's a flex. But I think but I think
Big Darrell: Right, that's a huge flex, right?
Wills On The Tank: And it's a and it's a major accomplishment on top of that.
Eric: Absolutely. But even that though, that's man, I I y
3 god: Okay.
Eric: I stick at the topic. But the flex is like teaching your kids how to make one million dollars into five hundred million. You know what I mean? Like, so that's
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
Eric: a long that's like teaching them how to fish, you know, versus leaving them a back bucket bucket full of fish and telling them eat up. You know what I mean? That's what I think.
Wills On The Tank: Right on. Right. Right. It's like
Big Darrell: Right.
3 god: Well yeah.
Wills On The Tank: 'cause I can I could tell this is use me and my bad, my bad.
smoo: Let Dinks speak.
3 god: I but that that's crazy y'all talking about Grand House nigga going through that shit like as we speak. That shit crazy. I ain't gonna go into details to tell all the business online, but folks try to keep Grand House that bitch. Let that bitch go.
2: But you already say it too much, boy.
3 god: That bitch on Omar Luther King Street. That's all y'all need to know.
2: Cut that nigga out out.
Eric: Boy the property value so low on that bit.
Wills On The Tank: Hey, but they do gentrification too, so
3 god: But hey, it's gonna take a while but j justification it that
Eric: Mm-hmm.
3 god: that people always bring that up. Like j justification ain't just like everybody going around looking for who is it to revamp that bitch. It gotta be a certain reason to
Eric: Mm-hmm.
3 god: to come over there. You know what I'm saying? Like for instance,
Big Darrell: Right.
3 god: where in the neighborhood where I work at is a it's a Title One neighborhood. Not the but the school is a Title One. So the the you know the the houses ain't all the best, but now they got all type of big houses being, tore down to make huge houses. But that's because that bitch right there for the beltway. this it's five it's twelve minutes away from the Metro, twenty minutes from DC. So yeah, we gonna revamp this. And I well revamp Jackson, Mississippi. Like where that leading bitch to? Martin Luther King Street. So ain't nobody coming over there. But anyway, so but just with generational wealth, Generational wealth is like what Bill said as far as the teaching. But not only that though, I think what people d realize, even I think Billp said this, but then emphasize it's just it's getting somebody basically the next generation ahead start. Like
Wills On The Tank: Right.
3 god: it's it's it's getting that like people sh like I know ain't a lot of Trump fans. I ain't no big Trump fan. I ain't ain't I ain't no big politician, I ain't that, but they they do scrutinize him for saying that like, he He he talking about he rich and his dad and left him a million dollars. I'm like, that's what that's what you supposed to do. He turned that bitch
Wills On The Tank: Is that what he's supposed to do?
3 god: and he turned that bitch into to an empire. You know what I'm saying? Like I can't like sh shit.
Wills On The Tank: Right on, right on. Right on, right on.
smoo: to president.
Big Darrell: Right. That's the best
smoo: Nigga took a million
Big Darrell: position you can have in the world. For real.
Wills On The Tank: And
smoo: president from y'all bitch.
3 god: You know what I'm saying? Like I I don't I never could understand the scrutiny of that. I never understood it. I mean I understand the
Wills On The Tank: Well
3 god: the I understand the the racist aspect that they say that his dad was enough. I mean I mean I I but but but but but it's it's not even it's not even how
2: No, it's about it's about it's about how you talk about it, bro. But I get it though. It's it's it's funny. But yeah, no, he they they talk about the way he talk about it.
Wills On The Tank: think it's a mindset as well. You it's hard
3 god: you talk I mean see you rich. How you gonna I mean honestly though, if you're rich, how who If you rich, who gonna tell you how to talk though? honestly, cause you're trying to get where he
Big Darrell: Right.
3 god: at. I'm just being honest. I I ain't on nobody's side. I'm just saying, think about it if you was in those jeans too.
2: Yeah, I don't think people pe I don't think I don't I think Trump Trump was like I ain't gonna say cool peop people fought with Trump until he became president and started expressing things that we didn't think but a president. Anyway, let we we get out of this.
3 god: Yeah, man. That's why No, you you're right, 'cause I said I know Wayne, it was
Wills On The Tank: I'm Donald Trump and the white T, your white ones. The conversation is money, Nick. You want some? Who said that?
2: Well we don't we don't know
3 god: Why why why ain't why ain't say that why ain't say that racks on racks on racks? But but but
2: we don't know we don't know nothin' about these niggas that get money until they start expressing their personal life. Then it's okay, damn. That's
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah. They personal views, yeah.
3 god: that it is what it is. But yeah, so that's why I just think generation wealth is. I think it's just basically putting your kids or whoever, ahead of where you started at. Like Bronny
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: James. Like I they call him a Nepo baby, and I'm like, I don't understand why y'all hate on the man for being a Nepo kid. Like that's what that's what I would do this you think you think
Wills On The Tank: That's what anybody would do. So anybody right, right.
Big Darrell: Right. That was supposed to do it.
2: Okay.
3 god: I'm gonna make I'm gonna make my son work, but he in the back of his head he went to the elite. it is what it is. You know what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: Right on. Right on. And
2: Okay. I think he's a
Eric: Mm. Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: I and I I don't think it's you know, just to kinda expand off, you know, both of y'all, you could like just you know, just kind of reiterating what Bip said, like man, you could leave somebody a bunch of money, but if they ain't got the mind to keep it, you know, like it's it's it's it's it ain't gonna matter then. And I also I just
Big Darrell: Right.
Wills On The Tank: something something that I thought was since we talking about generational wealth. There's actually a a verse in the Bible, and I if I'm not mistaken, it's Proverbs 1322, and it says, A good man haveth inheritance, he he haveth and leaveth an inheritance to his children's children. So the Bible kind of already talks about generational wealth in a way right there. It's talking about like leaving an inheritance for your children's children. That's like not just
Eric: Good point.
Wills On The Tank: one generation, two generations. So like I think that's
Big Darrell: Correct.
Wills On The Tank: That's that's interesting that we even expanded on, that we expanded on that and that is even in the Bible. So not to
3 god: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: sound all biblical or whatever, but that is what's there, So it's it's cool that the the Bible reiterates, something to strive for, But I
2: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: think it's I think it's more about the mindset that you teach in your children,
2: I I think no two separate things though.
smoo: Do kids have a responsibility to preserve what their parents built?
2: Exactly. That that's what I'm about to say, Smooth.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think so.
2: I don't think so. I don't think it's necessary I don't I don't I don't think it's necessary generational wealth. Generational wealth I think generational
Eric: No, no, no. Mm mm. Mm-mm. If I No.
Big Darrell: I think it's respectful if they do.
3 god: no. I don't think it was responsible.
Wills On The Tank: Why not though?
2: wealth is put in position they'll be straight no matter what they do. Generational
Eric: Yeah.
2: wealth? Generational wealth.
Eric: Look, I think all right, I put it like this, this is how I think about it. Connect Counseling gonna be multi billion. We gonna be in all states. We gonna take that shit international. If my kids don't wanna do that shit, I am okay with that. Like because I they don't even have to touch that money. You know what I mean? I my my goal is like even if let's say that dream doesn't happen like that in this lifetime, but if I just leave them insurance money. Right, from a life insurance policy. My goal is I look, I done taught you how to flip this shit. Go get it. I don't give a damn
Wills On The Tank: There you go. There you go.
Eric: what you do with Kinet Counseling. Like actually I think that's a prison for a child. Like that's that's
3 god: Mm-hmm.
Eric: actually diminishing their
3 god: Yeah.
Eric: dream and not allowing them to see the world and change the world in the the way they see fit, you know?
Wills On The Tank: Man, that's that's crazy that you haven't said that. Man, going back to a movie. go no, no, no, no, I actually
3 god: Thank you.
Wills On The Tank: wasn't. I actually wasn't. But going back to a movie, a movie that I saw, it got Sandra Bullock in it. I don't know if y'all seen this movie called A Proposal, but
3 god: Mm.
Wills On The Tank: he was working, he was working for Sandra Bullock as a as a editor or something. I can't remember. But his dad actually wanted him to take over the company. And he didn't want to do that, you know, for you know, for what he had his own reasons, he had his own dreams, his daddy felt like, you working for this lady that's beneath us. And that's what I took from the movie it for for his dad's character. And he was like, you need to stop playing and come take over the role. take over your, earn your cause, when Sandra was coming to see her see her family see his family, she was like, Who are you? You know what I'm saying? She seen that, they had all these this wealth and, they they had all this land and stuff like that. And she was like taken aback by this dude who was actually working for her, but He actually, in the scheme of things would have more than her, but he just didn't want to take over his father's business because he was like, that's not what I want to do. And his daddy was pressuring him. So I thought that was cool.
smoo: Well, the play devil's advocate, because y'all preaching and shit, the parents should feel away. The parents should definitely feel away
Eric: Mm.
smoo: if you didn't did 50
2: Man.
smoo: years of work and the child don't want to do shit. Nigga, why did I have you? Why did I have you? For you to just be like, fuck what you're doing, pops. So yeah, what y'all saying is true. But nigga, I just supposed to watch you throw your fucking life away just cause you wanna find your dreams?
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, that and that's basically what his dad was saying. And that's basically what his dad was saying on that movie. Because all he wanted to be a he
Eric: Basically.
Wills On The Tank: wanted to be a book editor. And he was like, You wanna be th his attitude toward us like a book editor, man, if you'll come over here and run this business and so
Eric: Hmm.
smoo: and I'm being devil's advocate because what y'all saying is true but what the fuck am I supposed to do as a pen when I done did everything?
3 god: Okay.
Big Darrell: I agree. I agree with you, Smooth. you can't fuck up that money.
smoo: I done sacrificed days and nights just for you to say, no dad, wanna go do graffiti. Man, shut the.
Eric: Yeah.
2: à Martin, é sal aÃ.
Wills On The Tank: But what's
Eric: But that's your dream though. That's your dream.
Wills On The Tank: so funny? Y yeah I was just about to say
3 god: You can't really you can't really do that. That devil that devil advocate, that devil advocate I I understand what you gotta you you
Wills On The Tank: you what's so funny? Y
Eric: That's your dream. That don't work.
smoo: See you.
Wills On The Tank: You know Mm.
3 god: gotta right to feel the way you wanna feel. And I ain't trying to be on
Eric: Absolutely.
3 god: my connect counseling shit like Bill, but at the end of the day, he ain't like the nigga chose to be here. You you know what I'm saying? So he still got a choice.
smoo: That's the point. That's the point. That's the point though. yeah, that's my point.
3 god: Yeah, I know that's your point, but I'm I'm I'm make I'm playing with the devil ad advocate and I'm just saying you got a right to feel that way. You'd be like, God damn nigga I did all this shit. I mean, it's just like, you know, NBA players. They they they most time they kids don't turn out to be who they thought they'd be.
smoo: But as a, but I'm saying though, we gotta be, we gotta be
2: That's different bro.
smoo: realistic about this though. We gotta be realistic about
3 god: No, I'm just saying in in in in general.
smoo: this though, as a parent, as a parent, and you didn't, you didn't did all this shit and you watching your kids just suffer just for the sake of letting your kid do what they wanna do.
Wills On The Tank: Fan his way.
Eric: The hell yeah, you got to. Shit. The fuck you gonna do? What you gonna do if they choose to do something different?
Wills On The Tank: Hold on, let's let's say this though.
3 god: That's what I said. That's what I said. You can't you you
smoo: I'm listening, I'm listening.
3 god: got you gotta write the feel you gotta write the feel the way you wanna feel, but I'm saying though, you you the nigga y you he got his own feelings. Like he can you
Eric: Right.
3 god: you me as a parent,
Wills On The Tank: Right, right.
3 god: like if I do everything I do IT wise, hope for God I do what I do.
Big Darrell: And he got his own purpose too. Now I I don't I
3 god: I do what I got to do, right? And then Ayla come out there, bitch, and and God forbid do whatever she you know I'm saying. I I got to live with that. I even though I be very disappointed. Be like, damn, I did
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: this and this and for you, but then they she human. It's like it is what it is.
Eric: Man, you can't even be disappointed
2: but
Wills On The Tank: But what
Big Darrell: And
Wills On The Tank: and also you can look at it like this.
Big Darrell: and I I believe I believe
Eric: though.
2: that's against the point though. Let me ri let me r let me go real quick, bro.
Big Darrell: y you you're really not a failure. It's just everybody got their I believe everybody got their own purpose. You know what I'm
smoo: That nigga D said
Big Darrell: saying? And she done
smoo: at the end of the day she human. I wanna see this conversation in 16 fucking-
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah. I
3 god: You we gonna have that combo, no count, 'cause
Big Darrell: But but but my thing
3 god: it I'm gonna be sick if it if she don't pay it
Big Darrell: is it's like
3 god: out.
Big Darrell: when you say the graffiti right the graffiti that's cool because maybe his dream and maybe his purpose in life is to be an artist is to draw on buildings that don't necessarily make you a failure but what what I think is is okay say for Michael Jordan's son right that's the perfect example that's what I was thinking about the whole time even
smoo: Hmm.
Big Darrell: Michael Jordan's son he can go snort as much coke as he wants He still can't fuck up the generation that generational wealth that Michael Jordan built.
smoo: I get what you saying, I get what you saying, but how does that make Jordan feel when he put his head on a pillow? Does he feel like, damn, I did all this, I did all this. Nigga, if this was gonna be the outcome of what I thought generational wealth was, nigga, I could have worked that fire stone. I didn't
2: And these
Eric: Yeah. I don't think
smoo: have to go this far.
Big Darrell: Nah, I don't I don't think he feel I I think Jordan feels like
2: right no. No, these two different these
Eric: I don't think
2: two different points too.
3 god: That's too yeah, that but that's different.
Eric: I don't think niggas like Jordan.
Big Darrell: Feel like Jordan, I feel like Jordan feels like he didn't raise his kids as hard as he grew up, but I don't feel like he feels their
2: No
Big Darrell: failure. Same thing with Joe Biden.
smoo: What you got to say, what you got to say? What you got to say?
2: No, I
3 god: Okay.
2: think Jordan got the same stands p standpoint without the bracketos of it as Dion. his all his sons try to do the family business. They try, you know what I'm saying? Just like just
3 god: Yeah, they try.
2: like Lavar, you know? You know what I'm saying? We can shift it. I think like I think with when y'all said like the movie you said with Ryan Reynolds, the one that got that played Deadpool, he he did
3 god: The propos the proposal.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, proposal, yeah.
2: the No, Ron Reynolds said R Ron Reynolds played Deadpool. So yeah, so he
3 god: Yeah, but yeah.
Wills On The Tank: Okay, okay, my bad.
2: he stemmed away from the family company. he didn't even want the cheese.
3 god: Okay.
2: he just wanted to be his own man, gets to be an editor without no
3 god: Yeah.
2: part of it. It's like, damn, you working this hard for generational wealth. Then it's like what is generational wealth if my gener the if my seed don't even want this, dog, I'm I might as well buy three yachts. Like, what we doing?
smoo: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Wills On The Tank: But hold on, but look but look look at it this way. Hold on. Look at it look at it this way though.
smoo: Listen to this, listen to this. wanna, cause this, you said somebody too. So this nigga Lonzo Ball just said this. He literally just said this a day ago. He said,
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: now this is at the LaBar Ball, they family set for life. This is what the fuck Lonzo Ball just said. He said, I had no structure. I literally was just hooping and listening to my pops. That would be my only regret. Damn, I fucked it up. Let me restart. He said,
2: Go ahead.
smoo: had no structure. I was literally just hooping and listening to my pops. That would be my one regret, taking
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: control of my career earlier. Lanzo
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: regrets not taking control of his career as a rookie. So your pops did all of this. And you mean to tell me your one regret is not taking control of your career early. What is the career without LeVar?
3 god: But that but that's to my point though smooth. That's what I would I would that's what I'm saying. You niggas gonna feel they type of way regardless of what you do. We looking on the outside looking in like man nigga you you he did all this for you and you wanna say that but dude like man shit I feel like if I didn't go that route I probably would have had a better life within the NBA like it just that's what I'm saying. So you trying to force some shit on somebody
smoo: So how does that make LaVar feel? I feel like, hold on, hold on. I feel like
3 god: saying that's why that's why I told you you can feel any type of way.
smoo: LaVar, you gotta be super secure in what you did. But that thing is going through a divorce right now. So to hear your son say that, it's like, God damn.
Wills On The Tank: But you two things
3 god: That's what I'm saying. It's move. You got a nigga gonna feel the way they can can feel regardless. So I'm saying you saying you putting all that in you
smoo: It ain't that simple though.
3 god: he did his part as it pops, right? But pop all right, so like I even told my daddy, right? I even told my daddy, I Dad, I wish you would've pushed us harder. Like I feel like we could have did something a little bit better. But he was like, damn, what shit.
smoo: You told the punk
3 god: Yeah, I said that. But then he to his point, he's like, I cause I feel like we would have been better. Like Dingo, he went farther than football. I feel like if my daddy would have pushed him a little harder. He would have been even better. But then again, who knows that could have pushed him away from the whole sport at all. So that's what I'm saying. Even with Lonzo, dude, push, push, push. Now he lost his family. Now his son saying this and that. So it's like shit, let the cron fall where they may. Do what you do your best.
Wills On The Tank: Right on.
2: I think this but
3 god: And they let the cron fall.
2: but this speaks to the this speaks
Wills On The Tank: I guess two things today.
2: to the point of like damn what is generational wealth? I'm what's do I take all these risks in to
smoo: Yeah, I think you saying it, you saying it, you saying it like in conversation, put yourself in those shoes and how would you navigate that is my point.
3 god: I'm saying it's fair to feel the way you want to feel. I said that's what I said from the get-go. You can a million dollars can make you feel richer. A million dollars to Donald Trump make you feel like shit just a million dollars. So you're gonna everybody's gonna have their own feeling. I'm not saying that you can't feel the way you want to feel. But just like Lamar can feel some type of way about his son saying that, he can feel the same way about Lamar Lavar doing that for him his whole life. Because people some people say Lonzo Ball career did take off cousin Lamar. you you can actually
2: Yeah.
3 god: make that point. First, first rookie game,
2: Thousand percent.
3 god: Pat Bell in the nigga head. So you always hear, man, your daddy taking over shit. Jaden Daniels gonna do it. The nigga can't even say he don't like his jersey without they call in Mama Tasha back. So you just never know how that which way that ball can roll. So that's what I'm saying. You
Eric: Man, yeah, I think I
3 god: can feel the way you wanna feel both sides, you and the son.
smoo: What you got, Bill?
Eric: As a parent, I think as a parent, I think honestly I think it's selfish to be trying to dictate and like steer your kids life like that if that's not something that they wanna do.
3 god: I'll dictate though.
Eric: You know what I mean? Like I think that
smoo: Let me ask you this though, Bill. Let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. And this is an honest question. Is there anything wrong with being self-
2: Hmm.
Eric: Yes. and no. Yes, if that's not what the kid wanna do. You ain't gonna do nothing but push him away and you make the kid feel unloved. And if you know what I mean, the kid gonna rebel and now you really ain't gonna get what you tryna get accomplished what you trying to get done. But I think it's selfish if you see if I'm LeBron James and if I see Bronny he love basketball like I do. then hell yeah selfish. I want I like you this is what we this is what we gonna do. I think in that case, then selfish is okay. And I don't even think it be it it's selfish at that point. It's just, you know, you just you know, but I think once your desires for your kid are the opposite of what they want and you steady grinding them gears to push it to ge to make it happen, I don't think that ain't gonna create positive results. That's what I think.
2: What if the
3 god: Shit, three, three, three
Wills On The Tank: I too.
3 god: nigga. My bad, T Wheel. Three, I'm gonna let you go right fast. Just to put on piggyback on Bill Point. Three of this nigga kids made it to the league. And that nigga said the shit. So that go to Bill Point. you got three, three, that nigga went three for three in the league. And that nigga still
Eric: Crazy.
3 god: had that shit to say. It's like, so come, that's what I'm saying. Like it can go, the ball can roll either way.
Eric: Facts. I
3 god: Nigga went three for three. Ain't no other parent doing that. No, you know what I mean? That don't mean you're not a good parent, but I'm saying in the league. Three for three? Then one became a rapper.
Eric: That's crazy. That's crazy.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
2: I don't I don't but we s but
Eric: And got hits.
3 god: It got it got two or two or three hits. You know what I'm saying? Like so it's like,
Eric: And Lavar probably mad about that, cause that nigga ain't so well hoopin'. He probably upset about that, man.
2: And he was he was he was mad about the tattoos.
Big Darrell: Well but look, look.
Wills On The Tank: I made sure to hit a colour woo.
smoo: You got it. You got it there. You got it there. You
Big Darrell: Well w what I do like about the what I do like about the comps
smoo: Willie, you're you're willing. You can have the last point. You got it there.
2: Dude, but Lem
Big Darrell: no, no. What I was saying, what I do like about their pop, though, whatever they do, he do support them. say for instance, he was rapping. His pop was like, yeah, we gotta hit. That nigga was supporting like a motherfucker. Like that's one
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: Yeah, thanks.
Big Darrell: thing I feel like, but that's just like that's like if Shadur said the same thing. You feel me? Like, I wish my daddy wouldn't have took part of my career early on. Man, you can't, I don't know. I think that's ungrateful to say.
smoo: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think,
Eric: I ain't saying it out open like that.
smoo: you know, just to, just to go back to agreeing with y'all a point, like, I mean, shit, man, you, you, you a parent once, you know, and every day,
Wills On The Tank: Right.
smoo: every day you learning, you know what saying? Who and not to be. So, so I agree
3 god: Thanks.
smoo: with y'all, but at the same time, like, I still think like, we, you gotta have some type of sympathy for the person before you, because they did try to lay whatever this was.
Wills On The Tank: Foundation.
3 god: Nice
smoo: Man,
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: you just be like, nigga, fuck that.
Wills On The Tank: I ain't doing it. Hey
3 god: That's why I say I feel you.
2: I think I think like
3 god: I feel you.
2: the NBA is the NBA is a perfect example because we lay we lay like the three sons, we put that on La B Lavar. But like the Greek Freak, his him and his three brothers in the league, yeah just Greek free brothers. Drew Holiday and his brothers in the league, y'all just Drew. You know what I'm saying? They gonna put it on somebody.
3 god: J Jill T again it brother. Jill T again bro. okay.
2: No, I'm talking about three. I'll just gone three 'cause of B B three. Gun B B.
3 god: BBB, but
smoo: Willie O, you got last point.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah. yeah, you know, I I I think it's two things to that. like going back to what that clip that we seen of Shaq where he was basically telling his son, you know,
smoo: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wills On The Tank: you know, are you sure you want this? And you know, I h I have heard, you know, where people they they say, I do this, I did this for the family, and then you had a family turn around and say, But we never wanted that. We wanted you, we wanted you. You
smoo: MMMM
Wills On The Tank: wasn't there for me, Dad. You you so that's that's one thing. That's that's
smoo: That thing is crazy!
Wills On The Tank: the first thing. Then the second thing is suppose you lay this f you lay this groundwork down and you let's just say you want your son to take over this multi-billion billion dollar company, but he wants to be a rapper. I think it's also, you know, you provided a cushion for them to go out there and bump their head to where they like, okay, I got options now. It's not like so much pressure that like I can fall I can fall back on I I think that's I think that's something to, kinda be proud of where okay, if my son don't wanna if my son don't wanna take over the business, let's just say he do wanna go be, a rapper or whatever the case may be, you can come he can see you can say, well he always got a home, he always got a place to fall back on if that don't work out for him. He can he can come back and do the business. And I think for a son to know that, I think that that's less pressure and allow them to be more creative or whatever. and and really pursue their dreams and really go out and be who they want to be. And I'm just using rap as an example because that's something that we all close to. But I I think I think it's cool that you can provide options to where they can go out
3 god: Thank you.
Wills On The Tank: if you work so hard, even though that may not be what you want to do as the as the father or as the parent. I think it's actually cool that you can allow them to go out and make their own decisions. And if it doesn't work out for them, they can come back and still be good and take care of it, take over the business and continue on with their generational wealth. if it's especially if you already taught them certain things, whether, whether they go out and do rap or whatever the case may be, they still have that, hopefully they still have that instilled to them where it can continue on in terms of generational wealth going back to that, if that makes sense.
3 god: No.
smoo: Yeah, I think it all goes back to Bill Point about, I don't know what the word stewardship means, but learning, like learning the business and being involved. I think that's definitely the most important thing, because I deal with this shit on a daily basis. People getting rid of grandma's house and shit like that. So I know people don't give a fuck.
Wills On The Tank: Mm, yeah.
smoo: I know people don't give a fuck about none
3 god: Okay.
smoo: of that shit. But I do think if people did understand, you know, if there was some type of teaching about it, I do think it would be more valuable for sure. I remember my mama told me, she was like, I want to pass down, I'm my mama, I'm gonna stay. I know the pizza, what the fuck, you gonna pass down to me? You ain't gonna give me
3 god: sÃ, sÃ
Big Darrell: But
smoo: no damn house.
Eric: I I d'oug I
3 god: Yeah.
Eric: d'about five this month. They don't need me to bought
smoo: Yeah, like that little one house ain't doing what people think is, you know, what it's gonna do. You know, I definitely think passing down generational wealth is definitely teachings. It's not money, for sure.
3 god: I think
Wills On The Tank: It's
3 god: it just yeah. I think I do think it's head starts though.
Wills On The Tank: that's right. That's right. It's the teaching.
3 god: Like you said, head starts. I think that's what it is.
Eric: Yeah. So with that being said, the easiest thing to do is just go
Wills On The Tank: But if you
Eric: sign up for a life insurance policy and keep it pushing. And teach and teach
Wills On The Tank: Right. Right. And if you
Big Darrell: Right.
Eric: how teach how to get it and teach what to do with it and p get a life insurance
2: Man
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Eric: policy and
smoo: Sure.
Eric: keep it pushing. And by the way,
Wills On The Tank: Right.
Eric: stewardship means responsibly taking care of ma it's re responsibly taking care of
smoo: I know, I ain't doubt what you was saying. I ain't doubt what you was saying.
Eric: of and managing and protecting something that has now this
3 god: eu ganhei de Devon nesse,
Eric: this definition for me, 'cause I wanna I need to know I if I used it right. I think I did though. Stewardship means
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Eric: responsibly taking care of of managing and protecting something that has been entrusted to you, especially
smoo: yeah.
Eric: with the idea that it should benefit others or continue into the future.
Wills On The Tank: Right on.
smoo: yeah, for sure, for sure, for sure.
Eric: I say a word
2: so people don't
Eric: quick and it'll have nothing to do with the word.
2: give so people don't give a damn about stewardship then?
smoo: Man, yeah, fuck no.
Eric: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: yeah, for sure though. They sure don't. You ain't that's absolutely correct two.
smoo: Fuck no. Fuck no. Fuck
Eric: Nah, hell no.
smoo: no.
2: If if that's if that's the like well, I'm I'm not down you like they said. If that's the definition, yeah, people don't care about stewardship.
smoo: Nah. Nigga,
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: what you eat don't make me sick. At the end of the day.
Wills On The Tank: Right. And I think that more has to be taught. It has to be more taught.
2: But that's the thing though.
Eric: Yeah.
2: I think that's the whole that was that's like the whole point of c of the conversation. Like damn.
smoo: Yeah,
3 god: Yeah,
smoo: but you can't I don't think it ain't I don't think Man, we all individuals bro. I don't think you're gonna get somebody to eat your shit I don't think that's that how
3 god: Yep.
smoo: it works. Maybe you have to maybe they have to follow me head a thousand times and That goes beyond kids. You know I'm saying that
2: Yeah.
smoo: that's people in general. We're not just talking about kids we talking about Anything nigga kid nigga can see you made a million if right in front of you, saying and See that could be your that could be your closest partner And the nigga down the street. He don't want to learn how to do that quicker than your partner, you know
Eric: Yeah. Yeah.
Big Darrell: Right.
2: Yeah, to some people. Some people think like that
smoo: Everybody got their own motion everybody got their own motion
2: with that that ace to stay on side at that hotel forever, the hilton fly forever. Somebody the next one person hearing like, alright, give me the money, man, I'll do something else. While why I don't have to put much effort into, you know. But
Eric: Yeah.
2: it's like
Wills On The Tank: And that and that it could be more about being short-sighted and have long term thinking, you know. when you like you think about McDonald's, this that's something that's gonna go on forever. And it I don't know if y'all ever seen that movie The Founder, but basically those two brothers, they they it's like they almost was kind of short-sighted, so so short-sighted
smoo: They were suicided. They were suicided.
Wills On The Tank: that the a person came in from the outside and finessed his way into their their system and took it from them. And he was able to proc, I think his name is Croc or something like that.
3 god: That's the
smoo: Mm-hmm.
Wills On The Tank: He even
Eric: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: said it's so crazy about it. He he said he he he made a point about the name. He was like, McDonald's. It just sounds it sounds good. It sounds so home homey, you know, or or home like it's just made for big business, basically, is what he was getting at. He said, I you know, I try to revision that with my name, Croc. It it just doesn't sound good. So like You just gotta have the vision in which is already hard for for other people if it wasn't given to you. That's one. And then number two, it's I think it's more boils down to teachings. I think the inheritance is not just just necessarily handing somebody a bag of money. It's you can give a that's that that old saying the old people say, you know, fooling this money may part ways, but you know, if if you're if you teach wisdom that you have a better chance of keeping this thing going forever and ever.
2: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: I think it's more about the teachings instead of just giving somebody a bag of money. 'Cause like Dee said, you can give them a head start. I know I'm rambling, but I'ma close it out. To give you give somebody a head start, but if they a fool, then then what?
3 god: They pans on the ground.
2: Yeah Yeah.
smoo: College football, College football, it was just announced today at
3 god: Cooked.
smoo: the SEC. They announced a rule to keep players who went pro from returning to college. But I don't know what that means for the rest of the college football landscape. how do y'all
Big Darrell: Explain it.
smoo: feel about
Wills On The Tank: I'll just
smoo: college football?
3 god: It's cooked, Daryl. That's all you need to know.
2: I seen buddy from buddy what from the Browns. my bad, my bad. I I seen it, my bad.
smoo: So yeah,
Eric: Yeah, I'm in the
smoo: so now we're in a situation where college football college football players are basically being able to go back to Well, let me let me take that back me rephrase that NFL players are now being able to go back to college if they have eligibility
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: Well hello hello. So well, it used to be four years, but they granted that fifth year. So now they got that fifth year, remember. So basically if you went let's say you went you got one more year left, but you went 'cause it once you it used to be once you signed an agent, you couldn't go back. But now they gave that loophole away not loophole, but they gave they up r uplifted that rule. And so now it's to the point where niggas is actually in training camps. And if they don't even make the ninety man roster, they can go back to college. And so that's what
Big Darrell: Mm.
3 god: the big fuss about. It's like, damn, you can get the training, get all that shit for, training camp, all that. And if you get cut, you can still go back to one boy going back to LSU. Well going to L S U 'cause he was playing with Lane, he was playing with
2: Yeah. But but from he w
Eric: Yeah. well. Who
3 god: Lane Glane Kiffin. So now he's going back to get a DN spot.
smoo: Well,
2: Tight end. Tight in. Tied in.
3 god: Is it Chinese or D? Yeah.
smoo: I personally think
Eric: What did I smell?
smoo: it's bullshit. To me personally,
3 god: Reach route.
smoo: it's bullshit that you can't go back to college.
Big Darrell: Right.
smoo: Me personally, like, nigga, it ain't.
3 god: Are you saying that it's bullshit that you can go back to college or that you're just like, damn, you should be able to go back to college? I'm trying to see where you live.
smoo: You should be able to go back to college.
3 god: Okay.
smoo: Nigga, you've been in the league for three weeks. What the fuck did that change? You weren't good enough for the league. So I
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: feel like see, nigga, if you have eligibility left, if you did not use all your eligibility in this current climate, why can't you go back to college? They doing it in the basketball. So why the fuck you can't
Big Darrell: Thanks.
smoo: do it in football? What is the difference? What is
3 god: Jack 'cause of one person doing it.
smoo: the difference? in three fucking weeks, Dink. Let's be real. What's the difference in a month? What is the difference? Other than him niggas
Wills On The Tank: Exit.
smoo: saying, nah, bro, you ain't even, you're not even too old.
Wills On The Tank: Right at all. Can they still take advantage of
3 god: What I do is
Wills On The Tank: the NIL? What's is that that Okay.
smoo: That's the main purpose of why niggas want to get back in school. But all I'm saying is, what are you gaining?
Wills On The Tank: The the pushback, yeah, behind it.
smoo: The niggas in the NFL coaching college, college niggas coaching the NFL, what the
Big Darrell: Facts.
smoo: fuck are you taking back that's taken away from college football?
3 god: So advantages basically. what's the advantage? That was you that would you basically ask.
Eric: Yeah, I th I
Wills On The Tank: I don't think nothing wrong with it if you put it that way. I don't think nothing's wrong
Eric: me either. I don't see, man,
Wills On The Tank: with it.
Eric: man, that's been such a bottleneck system for so long, man. Let them kids do what they need to do to get paid. I don't give a d don't give
Big Darrell: Right. Make the money.
Eric: a damn what they do. If you go to the pro, you don't make it go back to LSU. Sign up. Go enroll in class, nigga. I'll be in I'll be in trigonometry a Monday morning, nigga. It don't matter.
2: Hm.
Eric: It's like
3 god: You probably ain't gotta do that, to be honest. You probably finna with school.
Eric: Right. man, what the w I like bro, I just think that I just think
2: Mm-hmm.
Eric: man, you you got these guys who's policing these kids who don't come from where they come from, who don't they're making the rules, they're trying to make rules for these kids that don't understand them. They they never did. And it's all it it has been a money grab for the longest and now whenever the kids try to get paid or try to push just have a little rights about how they govern their own careers, it's it's a problem and it's you're getting all this pushback and it's like, bro, man, the hell with all them old white people sitting in these offices making these decisions about these kids, man. Let them kids do what they need to do.
2: And bro, and just imagine this. some kids probably gonna go back to college and try to be, you know what I'm saying, try to, you know what? I need another year. But some kids might they don't they might not want to listen to their agent or listen to people around them, but they gonna but they gonna finally hear, damn, I ain't built for the league. But if I go back to wait, wait, hold
smoo: So I don't know my debt for it.
2: on, wait, wait, hold on, let me rock, let rock. Let me rock, let me rock smooth.
smoo: Alright, I got it.
2: But if I go back to college for a yeah, shh. Shit, I can hit another nil deal. And this could s this could
3 god: Yeah, that's true.
2: set me up. No, so not saying all of them ain't gonna fare well in the league. They need another year of development. Some of them probably left too early trying to lead. But
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
2: the for the ones that not, but they can they No, Tim Tebow ain't fare in the league, but I'm not saying they Tim Tebow. But hey man, give me another league, give me another year in college. Give me some O cheese. I might run up two L'Ms. This gonna be beneficial for to for me and my and my my family, you know? So let them boys rock. Especially if they twenty one. I ain't saying that some of the kids not even twenty-five, twenty-six, like you boys twenty, twenty-one, twenty-two, let go play let them go play ball.
smoo: Right. Yeah. I think, I think, I think, I think it
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: definitely should be a age limit. I do think it should be a limit.
3 god: I think it's twenty three now.
smoo: Yeah. I think it should be a limit, but like you said, if you under that limit, why the fuck not?
Eric: Yeah. That nigga Bowniks would have been out of there. Boneeks thirty
3 god: I I I I can tell you why not. I I
Big Darrell: I agree.
3 god: just think
smoo: Alright.
3 god: I I mean I totally I like I d I don't disagree with what y'all saying and you know I cause it it it sounds weird because I'm like, hey bro get your money by any means. But I'm also 'cause I mean I'm also to the point like once you made your decision and you done had multiple times to make that decision I don't think you should be able to say, shit. Not even
smoo: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wills On The Tank: Renee on it.
3 god: Rit Nig. It's just shit, I ain't gonna make it here. Fuck it. Back to college. Like it's
smoo: Yeah, that's when Tu said that, that made me be like, nah, niggas, cut these niggas. Go work at Interpol.
3 god: That's what I'm saying. yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's
Wills On The Tank: Ha ha ha.
3 god: what I'm saying. The smooth and built. I get it. Yeah, yeah, the kids get their money, but then it's like, damn, you
2: Alright. It get like that though.
3 god: damn you also like it's like somebody gonna take a hit. That's all I'm gonna say. Somebody gonna take a hit. And no, no, no.
Eric: Who been taking the hip historically for the longest though?
2: Come on now.
3 god: Ain't no ain't no historically, cause it just kinda starting to happen. But somebody gonna take a hit,
2: Huh?
3 god: and the person that's gonna take the hit is the the the 17 old that
smoo: There you go.
3 god: that could have had a chance. But, but, but he also get five years too. But then again, it's like shit, is he gonna get them same reps? Because if I'm a college football coach, if I'm Lane Kiff especially, I just left a a great team of old men to go to LSU. I'm not standing that 18 year old is coming out here talking about he like that when I got a nigga that just got three weeks of training already full of develop policy.
smoo: Yeah, my partner had to explain that to me because I didn't understand it at first. But he was basically saying like this NIL and this transfer portal is hurting the younger kids the most. You know what saying? And I didn't
Wills On The Tank: Mm, don't meet me.
3 god: Right.
smoo: really think about it in that sense because I was like, well, they still could go to Juco around this thing on the third, which is true. Everybody going to find their way. But at the same
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: time, yeah, what you're saying is true. Like those young niggas who could potentially got those reps, they're not getting those reps.
3 god: Getting that real. like you said, we were talking about the LeVar ball. Put in your shoes. If I'm Lane Kiff and taking over LSU now, and I just because some they were talking about some people losing scholarships. I got this nigga from out of one of the top Texas high schools, top DN. And he's saying, Hey, I come in that school, blah blah blah, Bajay. But just get let's go with the number Jaden Daniel thing. But then the cuz say, Hey, hey coach, hey, just got cut from the Chiefs. I'm coming home. Hey, high schooler. Hey, let me hit you back. Let me hit you back. But I
Big Darrell: What?
2: Mm-hmm.
3 god: I know some niggas at Mississippi Gulf Code, they still got scholarships, but let me put you on hold. But yeah, yeah, yeah, come on. Like it's somebody gonna get hurt, and then the old thing
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, I'll see that now.
3 god: is I know it whatever you're doing, like somebody, it's always gonna be some casualties. Oops, I meant casualty.
Wills On The Tank: Mm.
3 god: Oops, I meant catastrophe. Oops, I meant actually. That's what Bill. Bill don't know nothing about that.
Eric: I do.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
2: Shah.
Eric: You niggas is to me in big way it more like what I'm rather in.
3 god: Rathering. Welcome to the Nah, but but fuck it. I probably messed up a clip, but it worked it. But anyway, I'm
2: Ha ha ha.
3 god: just saying, somebody gonna always take a hit. And it's rather sometimes do you rather for the kids to take the hit. And if that's what you rather do, then cool. But I don't like with your parents, it's like, damn man, I done did all this for this nigga, for them just to say that a grown man took his spot. That's that's tough. That's tough.
Wills On The Tank: Hey, I I get it though. Because 'cause think about this, the coach could take a hit too if he don't go with the fully developed person
3 god: Thanks.
Wills On The Tank: who was who was at the who was at the training camp for three weeks because he's trying to keep his job and he's gotta deliver. So
smoo: for sure. For sure.
Wills On The Tank: why would I take a chance and I'm just thinking about it from the coach perspective, why would I might take a chance
3 god: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: on this person that I gotta develop, I gotta I gotta put more I gotta instill more into, I gotta nurture
smoo: Man...
Wills On The Tank: more. Versus this guy who's a little older, he might be a little faster, a little stronger, a little bigger, more developed, he might got the he already got the work habits. And he's
smoo: I already got the work habits. I already got the work habits. Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: ready, he's developed, and he can get me possibly to the next championship, which is gonna look good on my record. And I possibly can get a raise.
Eric: The good thing the good thing about this though, the good thing about this is that these kids can leave, right?
3 god: Okay.
Eric: I like that's why I think is systems are in place where now if these kids don't like what they see, they can they can get up out of there and get a better opportunity. Okay.
3 god: Well they changing that too though. They changing that. So it's going to a point where you can only do it once for free. You can only got one jail, get out of jail free card. But that's what I'm saying. If everybody in that field i it's only a fifty-three man roster, Bill. That's what I'm trying to tell you. It's only a fifty-three man roster. And I forgot how
Eric: Yeah, I gotcha.
3 god: many actually go to training camp. So it
Eric: Mm-hmm.
3 god: the first cutoff is ninety and then it's the fifty three. So just think about this. NFL, you already at ninety people. So cut it down to fifty three. That's how many people? You good at map, I don't know. So think about all them niggas saying,
Eric: Mm-hmm. Yeah.
2: But it's little bit
3 god: fuck it, I'm going back to college. That's a lot of them high schoolers.
2: But if that
Wills On The Tank: Yeah,
Eric: On ther from thirty two teams. From thirty two teams, yeah.
Wills On The Tank: that's that's a hurt that'll hurt. That'll hurt, man. That's that
3 god: You see what I'm saying?
smoo: Yeah, yeah,
2: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: can hurt the I definitely see how it can hurt the younger ones.
smoo: yeah.
3 god: Now don't get me wrong. Now don't get me wrong. All of ain't undrafted free agents that just can't try out. I ain't saying that, but I'm just saying that's a good bit of high school kids not getting the opportunity. Now I'm not saying what's wrong or right. I'm just playing both sides. I'm not I'm just saying is it even college anymore? That's all I'm saying.
2: I think I think they gonna if if they made a cutoff on one side, they gonna be on the other side. But just they also made a cutoff with no say with JUCO. But that was kinda l prior n not too far after us, when they stopped protecting Juko, you know, players. You know, so it's it's all of been in like transition to Golders to see, hey man, they kinda I think they trying to cut out the JUCO. player cause it's been more athletes. Cause they ain't nobody protected no more.
3 god: No, somebody gonna get it's gonna be a casualty. It's gonna be it's gonna be a casualty somewhere.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, it yeah, yeah, it's definitely you right about that, Dink. I can see that one hundred percent.
Eric: Juco boys get down,
3 god: It's gonna be
Eric: man. I got respect for the Juco.
smoo: What you mean? You play Duco? Nigga said
2: That's what I'm s that's that's what I'm saying.
Eric: What's your what you say, Smoke?
smoo: it like he ain't playin Duco. I got respect for them Duco boys.
Eric: And that's what I'm saying. I got respect for
2: Number. Ã.
Eric: the Zuko board, man. I I'm I'm a product of that myself.
3 god: So
2: Satan.
Wills On The Tank: You why? 'Cause 'cause the hunger is different. The hunger is different. That's why just just I used to hear people say, I'd rather watch college ball than footb than than NFL. And they say 'cause them boys really just trying to get to the league. So not to say that anybody's on a lower level, 'cause I d I don't know what that football grind is like.
smoo: I don't, don't, I don't, don't, not, this ain't towards you, Willie, yo, but I don't necessarily agree with that. I don't necessarily agree with that. Because I, yo, yo, for sure, for
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm. I've heard people say that. I've definitely heard that plenty of times.
3 god: I'd have heard that before too.
smoo: sure. I've heard it too. I'm one of the people
2: No, I'd heard it. I was
smoo: who used to believe that. I used to believe that.
3 god: Yeah, b I about to say I th I w that's why I'm about to say smooth. You mean you have arguments of day.
smoo: Yeah, no, no, no, no. think the tradition that comes with the sport, it's the tradition. It's the fans, it's the Saturdays, it's all of that. But do
Wills On The Tank: Till game.
smoo: them niggas play harder than these NFL? Fuck no. They can't pay the motherfucking million dollars a fucking game. Like
3 god: Okay.
smoo: nigga. How you gonna play harder than me?
Eric: Hey, Travis Hunter getting paid a million too. So I mean college Travis Hunter.
Wills On The Tank: Well, I can I can kinda see that I can kinda see that though because just
smoo: you
Wills On The Tank: just another perspective. Like if I if if you're already
smoo: Nah.
Wills On The Tank: there, some people may be already comfortable. And I'm just thinking about the one percent of the football players who
smoo: No, no, it don't football don't work like that. Willie. if you are if you No, no,
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, okay. Go ahead. Yeah, y y you would know better than me, so I that yes.
smoo: I'm no but I'm just saying if you are comfortable you gonna be out the league fast This
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
smoo: like Devante Smith just had a conversation about about this and like bro. There's a short lease in the NFL Because the nigga
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: like you said that nigga that nigga in college. He want to be in your spot So if you not giving your all you you done So I don't think,
3 god: No
smoo: I don't think this, don't, it's not possible. It's too much parody in the NFL for you to be like, well, I'm getting a million dollar I can do. Nah, this ain't that. This ain't This ain't rap.
3 god: No, you're not doing it in the league. I ain't I ain't gonna speak for somebody
Wills On The Tank: Okay.
3 god: in the league but I ain't yeah, I ain't you ain't only
2: Mm-hmm.
3 god: way you're doing that if you already solidify you getting paid. That's the only way. Like
Eric: If you watch hard
smoo: Are you a nigga,
Eric: knocks.
smoo: are you a nigga who like that? And niggas who like that, you gonna make it look easier than what it is. You know what saying? It just
3 god: It is anyway.
2: Right. It just look easy.
smoo: look easy. So, your,
Eric: Yeah, yeah.
smoo: but your hundred percent ain't smooth. know what I'm saying?
Wills On The Tank: I got you. I got you.
2: Mm-hmm.
smoo: Nigga, I might be out there looking like I'm about to lose my life and you, nigga, we seen it at Juco. We seen it at Juco.
Wills On The Tank: Right. Right.
Eric: Hey, hey,
Wills On The Tank: Right.
Eric: boy, I seen I seen that firsthand. I'ma tell y'all, boy, Alonzo Lauren.
smoo: First thing I've taught about.
Eric: Alonzo, that boy was really like that. Shout out to Alonzo. Man, I'm I'm a
2: My nigga L.
Eric: fresh I'm a sophomore, bruh. Man, I've been running one teens even before we even started the summer workout. Nigga, because I'm trying to prepare. I'm like, yeah. Man, I run them one tens on the day of the test. I barely make it. I'm talking about, I'm like crossing the line whenever they count down to zero. My foot hitting the line. Boy, but Lonzo came. But Alonzo came like a week after we done training camp, bro. I'm talking about the season. We got our jersey numbers and everything. What?
2: Okay.
Eric: I'm talking about, I see Zoe. I don't know Zoe then. Man, Zo come out there. I'm talking about buddy look like he just came out of George County. He had on some big shorts. He just it just looked like he was just doing him. I'm like, man, I know this ain't Zoe. I know this ain't who I who d who I done seen George County and all Alabama and do all man that boy, that boy put that foot in the ground and he got the he made no one tens look like he was nothing.
smoo: and had a 40 ounce at the print.
Eric: Man, look, I ain't never seen nothing like that. I knew right then. I said, man, it, I understand why niggas go to Alabama and niggas go to Perk. I understand then. Pshw.
smoo: Yeah. And when you talk about, when you even talk about that, when you even talk about like that, bro, it's, it's a, it's a different athlete out here, bro. And when you, and
Eric: Understand it.
smoo: when you make it to the, when you make it to the top, you can make the roster, you can make the roster granted, but them niggas, 22 niggas who on that field, bro, you can't, you can't, you can't, you can't out, you can't out film that film.
2: Okay, bullshit down.
Eric: Yeah. They dogs. They dogs. They dog and they
smoo: You can't out film that film, bro.
Eric: playing fast. They running around. Man.
smoo: Yeah, nah. So my point,
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
smoo: back to my point, I think
Eric: Mm-hmm.
smoo: the pageantry of college football is definitely more valuable. But nah, bro. Them niggas.
3 god: Well but but with Schmo but with Schmo to to your p well, I'm gonna finish that point with y'all talking about the different athlete. It's crazy 'cause even you talking about the different athletes, they be having this in the NFL they got this ranking of y the your athletic scale. Like how athletic you is. And we just cut a ride receiver that had off the r radar, off the rector type of athletics. And he still got cut. So that just gonna tell ya how good great e like how Yeah, like this nigga had like is a great athlete but
Wills On The Tank: Gotta be Yeah, the n even the niggas on the bench are good.
smoo: because listen, listen to what you what you said. You said them niggas you said you said those niggas in college want to make it to the to the to the lead. Just imagine that nigga who a third string quarterback and he know that
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
smoo: Marcus Peters Peters is making 20 million a year at cornerback.
3 god: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: I see it. I get it now. Yeah. I get it.
3 god: So
smoo: It's it's it's it's
3 god: she just
Eric: Yeah,
3 god: she just crazy.
Eric: them bars.
2: It don't even stop in the league. The boy in the league saying, damn, nah, I ain't doing enough.
3 god: Yeah, we just got we we got rid of Jeff Cardwell. That shit was crazy. I thought we were gonna keep that part.
Eric: And right.
smoo: Like, think about what we talking about though. Like,
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: think about what we talking about. Jalen Ramsey is making 30 M's a year at cornerback. So what you think these niggas who at quarterback not making 30 m's trying to get to?
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: Hey, well let me ask y'all this though.
Wills On The Tank: I get it. I see it now.
smoo: And you know where that standard is at? Jalen Ramsey is a fucking all pro. He's not even a cornerback no more, but he was an all-pray cornerback for five, six years straight. That's the standard to get there.
2: To get there. Yeah.
Eric: Yeah. That boy been working for them 30 M's.
smoo: You got it, Bill.
Eric: Nah, I was just gonna ask y'all, like kinda I know it's on the list already, I'm maybe bringing it up prematurely, but okay, does that like where we at with Deshaun Watson with the whole whole you know, like that boy but that boy got the Browns in his back pocket, you know, with the checkbook. So,
3 god: No no you don't.
Eric: I mean, what you mean? How much did he how much did they pay that boy?
smoo: Let them finish, let them finish.
2: Yes you do.
smoo: Y'all gotta let the intro land before y'all, before you talk.
3 god: My bad. Yeah, I I thought you was gonna intro it. That's why I did that. I didn't know he was intro. But go ahead, my bad.
Eric: Yeah. Well no, I said I just said it
smoo: He's rolling.
Eric: just to me was a perfect segue,
2: He was trying to.
Eric: 'cause this is just on my mind, yo, Deshaun Watson and Shador, that's an interesting case because I think we all n see that the Shador deserve this starting spot. Deshaun, Deshaun deserve to play though because they paying that boy 50 million. Like we got to try this out. 50 million? Man,
Big Darrell: That's true.
Wills On The Tank: You gotta get you the money's worth. I got I see that. We give that money.
Eric: look, I'ma make sure you gon I'ma put you out there, buddy. And we gon we can we gonna figure this out. And we gon, you know, we gon we gonna make it do what it do outside of that. But Shadur deserved that spot. I think so. He played better.
2: Do you do you do you think the money champions the city you in and the conference that he had?
Eric: I don't know I don't know nothing about that. But if I'm the GM and I gave this boy fifty million, nigga, we gon figure this out. We gon figure this out. I don't know nothing
2: No, he he's No, no he said
Wills On The Tank: I'm putting them on the field. I'm putting them on the field.
Eric: about that.
2: he said he he f he felt
3 god: Are you so holla, are you in are you in
2: he he said he feel like he more love on road games than home games.
smoo: I say that. Just wanna watch.
2: The Shana said it.
Eric: The man I had I
3 god: Yeah, of course. He he he he was right. He ain't right, but he's right, if that makes sense. Like you get more love at home on weight gains cause nigga you you you suck. I love that nigga against the Chiefs. See, what the fuck you talking about? Yeah, yeah, I'ma love you.
Eric: But ma I like Deshaun. I I'm not gonna I'm not gonna say anything ab about negative as far as Deshaun who he is as a person. But I as far as what I've been seeing on the field, I think Deshador deserved that number one spot. And I
3 god: No we don't, bro.
Eric: my in my opinion,
2: Any derri
3 god: Damn Derek, what'd you feel? You feel some type of way?
Eric: Hey, hey, Darrell, hey, Darrell, I'm with ya, bruh.
Big Darrell: Marty Chip, man.
3 god: Damn,
Eric: Darrell, I'm with ya, bruh. Hey, what is ding talking about? You have you been seeing what
Big Darrell: Mm-hmm.
3 god: they got that nigga zoomed in. shit. Damn, hold on, I'm like, shit, what the fuck I say, Mo?
2: Mama, how I do that?
Eric: I've been seeing? Have you been seeing what I've
2: Ay yo
Eric: been seeing, brother? Because should
3 god: no cannot.
Eric: Shadur
Big Darrell: Right.
Eric: belongs as the number one.
3 god: No, he don't bro.
Big Darrell: Ding, why you feeling that though?
Eric: Hey, where are you tripping, Dick?
3 god: Bro.
2: Can't be football reasons.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, I always say should you should do a hate.
3 god: Guys, guys, guys, guys,
Eric: Hmm.
3 god: guys, guys. it's of course the money gonna play the role. But like, you you understand how much like you you have to be unequivocally better than a nigga that's getting paid that much. You cannot be on the same level. Like, so that's what I'm saying. He didn't deserve the number one spot. He threw like two picks. I forgot his stats. He ain't he ain't like he didn't wow nobody. And so if I got two niggas. That's damn near the same, I'm gonna give it to the nigga that's making the cash. Cause if he ends up making the cash, I can take a a worse or loss or however you want to reword the word, and just let him start now and then lose a job to Shador. Cause both of them the same. But I'm paying him six in's compared to the rookie contract on the fifth round or the fifth round pick. It ain't no, it ain't didn't I I know for sure this ain't no racism, this ain't none of that. It's just, bro, both of y'all boys ain't that great, but you getting paid 60 or however you're getting paid yearly. I got to go with the nigga that's making the money. He got to get the change.
Wills On The Tank: That makes sense. That makes sense.
3 god: Shador ain't did nothing outstanding. I'm not saying he's trash, but both of them ain't played it if both if Shador right here, right? If this your door, if this your door. I got to look at the wallet now. Like y'all damn near the same. You date you played a little bit better. But it don't mean you deserve the number one spot. Both of y'all been poo cheese. It's just like shit, fuck it. I'm gonna get to the nigga that's making the money. And he done proved that he can, he done proved that potentially he can be Deshaun Watson again. So, you got he gonna get the upper hand. Both of y'all doing the same thing. Now, if it was like Russell Wilson and Matt Flynn, I think that's his name, who d who used to be the quarterback for the Seahawks? That boy before Russell Wilson came, if y'all remember. Anyway, he was he was a top pick getting paid, but then Russell Wilson was just like, damn, this dude is fucking he had the start. shit, he way better than this nigga. I got to give it to him. Even though we invested this
2: Mm.
3 god: much money in him, shit, he way better. So I can't give it to a guy that's not unequivocally better than the next guy. He might got an inch or two on him, pause, but
Eric: To to Boris Jackson.
3 god: That's crazy. But yeah, he may just got that a little bit, but
2: Wow.
3 god: it's not that deserve the number one spot, bro. I'm just saying, it's just not d deserved the number one spot. And I've been keeping up with it. So nah, it ain't no. You got to be that much better than somebody that's making sixty mil a a year or however much his annual salary is. So
Eric: If they both were making the same amount of money, who would you put on the bill?
3 god: Then if they making the same amount of money and they both still playing the same way, I'ma go to the nigga that improved it. I'm gonna go with Deshaun Watson. he y'all forget that this nigga Deshaun was, was the nigga that was close to Pat Mahomes at one.
smoo: That nigga digs
2: Nah you ch you're just trying to win the argument now, dang it.
smoo: it. That nigga went against his whole point.
3 god: What you mean? How go gets home?
Wills On The Tank: Ha ha
2: This nigga is yeah.
3 god: I think I think this I said if they both the same. If they both the same.
2: No.
smoo: man.
2: No, playing the if they both were playing the same way they're playing right now, but they got paid the same, who would you put?
Eric: And they're making but they're making the same right. Who who would you put on the field?
3 god: If Shador was just a little bit better and he got he making more the same amount of money? No, I'm asking. I'm trying to get I'm trying to get the new ones. If they playing out. making the same
2: Man fr if if they both are cool. Ding, if they both like how they playin' now? They both playing the same way. They got
3 god: money. I'm going with Shador. Yeah, why not, duh? That makes sense.
2: That was Bill Coyson.
Eric: That's all. That's all I had.
3 god: I thought he was saying as of now, like, no, I'm going with the nigga. If if one nigga making less money, but they this close, I'm going with the nigga that makes more money.
Eric: That's cold Shannon
3 god: Huh? That's cool.
Eric: That that's cold Shannon
3 god: Niggas say you win your with your first five dollars you win, you get fifty
smoo: You
3 god: bucks free to bet. I don't know, man.
Eric: That's cold Shannon.
3 god: What y'all think? I mean, am I dripping?
2: No, I think
smoo: I really got too many thoughts about it for real. I just feel like Shadour a better player and I think they could have made that money back easy
2: with Shador.
smoo: with Shadour.
2: His his jersey gonna sell. I think it's gonna be I don't know, it's damn just it's a setup for Deshaun. I don't think he'll be there long, you know. Shadur gon
smoo: Yeah, nah, I think it kinda felt like he was trying to talk his way up outta Cleveland, for real.
2: Right, then they see you know what?
Eric: Man
2: I'm gonna put ya I'm gonna we're gonna start your ass and we're gonna get your ass booed out the league.
Eric: That's a great point, Smooth.
smoo: Well, maybe, maybe,
3 god: Well I think that I I believe that too though too.
smoo: maybe they trying to get some trade value. Maybe they trying to get some trade value, you know, maybe.
Eric: Man, that's a great point. Man, I was like, damn, Deshaun, man, that was cringeworthy hearing him talk on that interview though a little bit. I was like, don't I was like, bro, don't give him that. Don't give him that. Don't g he just kept going.
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: Yeah, wow.
2: I don't th I think I think the Browns are top ten team that you don't play with a fan base though.
smoo: I think a willy asleep.
Wills On The Tank: No, I I'm I'm listening. No, I'm listening.
smoo: Offward, please.
3 god: I'm
smoo: Offward, please.
3 god: losing
2: Then
Wills On The Tank: I'm alert. I promise I am.
3 god: Nah, I just too and and to you and Bill, I think yeah, they they fan base, they've been disappointed for so long, you know, far they never had a great quarterback. They best quarterback been Baker Mayfield so far, as I can remember. But even so, it's just like for him to have the the lack of awareness of why people born you is crazy.
smoo: Well, I don't think he got a lack of awareness. He said it in his speech. he said it while they were booing
2: That's a n
smoo: him.
2: that was intentional. That was intentional.
3 god: So what what's the point of saying it? You why they boring you? bro, women forgive everything. Everything. Everything.
2: No, I think I think he tryna he trying to force his way out.
smoo: and
3 god: No, you you saying you think it's intentionally he know
2: Yeah.
smoo: Hey
3 god: he aware he's aware of their situation.
smoo: Darrell answer this question for me, bro. Do
Big Darrell: Tot to me.
smoo: you think being an independent artist is overrated?
2: Mm.
Big Darrell: Hell yeah.
smoo: Wiz Khalifa just, he just came back. He just basically just came back and
Wills On The Tank: I would just I would just think about this. I would just think about the
Big Darrell: Fuck yeah.
smoo: was like, yo, I'm going back to the label. You know, like I need, I need a back end again. So I'm asking you, do you feel like being an independent artist is overrated?
Big Darrell: That shit overrated, man, because it's like, the biggest, my biggest thing is
3 god: Yeah.
Big Darrell: what's a hundred percent of fucking ten dollars? Or a hundred percent of a hundred dollars, or a hundred percent of a thousand. If you can get a label and get major funding right behind you, and like let's say for instance, you do pop, you do blow, right? And let's say for instance, you just a a mid-tier artist, right? And let's just say the label can make You do good, you do average. Let's say for instance, you make the label 25 million, right? I'd rather have 10% of 25 million than motherfucking 100% of fucking 25,000. You get what I'm saying? it's it's like and a lot of folks, I think ownership, when they say ownership, I own my masters, I own my recording, that shit overrated. Cause if it ain't if ain't worth nothing, Jay-Z don't own all the reasonable doubt, but it ain't worth. Half his other shit. It ain't even close to half his other shit. And Jay Z to the point Jay-Z don't even give a fuck about buying it back. Dame tried to hold that over his head for the longest. I have I got 33% of reasonable doubt you can have it. Don't nobody even want the shit. So it's like it come to a point to where would you rather
3 god: Yeah.
Big Darrell: have a hundred percent of twenty-five thousand dollars or ten percent of twenty-five million dollars? And we all know even if you sign a three sixty, it's still gonna be more than ten percent. It's gonna be like, let's say maybe some some folks get low in like twenty-five percent, but normally it's like sixty-forty or or or seventy-thirty. You know what I'm saying? But thirty percent of twenty-five million is way better than fucking two thousand and
3 god: Let's go.
Big Darrell: a lot of times independent artists don't even fucking make twenty five hundred dollars. And if you do, it ain't in one city, you know. It might take you fucking five, ten years to make twenty-five to ten thousand dollars over your whole catalog when a label gonna give you an advance right up front. They might say, okay, we'll give you a hundred thousand. Or if you were top tier, you get a million dollars. Okay, that and you paid up front. All you gotta do is just make your money. What happens is a lot of the artists spend their money, they forget what they're doing it for, they don't produce the hits. And then you in debt to the label, but shit, you done got a million dollars. Go ahead. Hey, I think it's overrated. A thousand percent overrated. Like I what what independency comes into play is when once you have proven yourself. Like once you're on the Drake level, once you're on the Kendrick level, once you on a let's just even say a big level.
Wills On The Tank: I'll say Missy level.
Big Darrell: You know what I'm saying? even Nipsey was trying to go to a a label. You get what I'm saying?
smoo: label right.
Big Darrell: Cause it's only so far you can go as an independent artist. And our boy LaRussell, it's only so far that you can go as an independent artist, right? And then if you want to cross over and you want to be bigger, you need that label. And then some folks be like, I could have stayed independent, but you haven't produced. That's what I believe. Like, if somebody
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
Big Darrell: said they they having trouble with the label or the label shelving them. Hey, I feel like you are not producing to the level that you should be producing. Because if you were, you'll become top qu priority. And so I just
3 god: Yeah.
Big Darrell: think when people I think you need a label and then you can go independent. That's my biggest thing. And some people do it good being independent, but I I guarantee you. Everybody that's independent or that has went independent majority had a label. The only person that you wouldn't see is like tech nine. And I even think tech nine was on the label at one point. Like currency was on the label at one point. Wiz was on
Wills On The Tank: yeah, yeah, definitely.
Big Darrell: the label at one point. You know, everybody that's like major
Wills On The Tank: Nipsey was too.
Big Darrell: and and look, and Larry June, we say he independent, but shit, he was signed to Warner. That's how he got his money.
Wills On The Tank: He was on the label, yeah, he definitely was. Definitely.
Big Darrell: He he was signed the warner. That's how he got his money. So I believe you should sign first, see how it is to be a label, get that upfront money, fulfill
3 god: Mm-hmm.
Big Darrell: your contract, and then go do your own thing if that's what you want to do. But don't down talk the label if you ain't fulfilled your contract. You know what I'm saying? And
Wills On The Tank: Right.
Big Darrell: I think independency is like you only can go so far. I don't give a fuck who you are. You can only
3 god: Yeah, but.
Big Darrell: go so far.
Wills On The Tank: It's cool if you i in in this in and I love it.
smoo: Hey, you gotta, you gotta dink, you gotta dink.
3 god: Nah, mine's ain't gonna be long though, T Wheel. I I was just just to add on what Daryl was saying, just put in the real life perspective. Well, rapping is real life, but I'm talking about to more relatable. What? to more relatable.
Big Darrell: Yeah, okay, you bang go away.
3 god: Nah, I was thinking about what TI had said about it, say, wait till I go independent. Or well, I forgot what song that was. But anyway. But yeah, I remember I was working at Frito Late, bro. I was working at Frito Lane. We had a d dude that quit his job, not his job, but his he had quit and started working at Frito Lane. And it wasn't because of the money, but it was because of the money. So I'm saying that because he, I don't know if y'all ever seen like them bread trucks, you know, like the Sarah Lee trucks, they had their own routes and everything.
Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah.
Eric: Yeah.
3 god: So dude, at the time, I don't know what year that was. That had to be 2017, 18, I don't know. I was at Frito Lake, probably make about 70, 75, whatever. he was at, he on, he had his own, when you do bread, you have your own route. It's kind of like your own independent company. They just give you the bread, basically, quote unquote. So you response for your own routes, your truck, and so he came, he was making two 220. And he was like, man, I had to quit. I'm like, bro, you're making 220, why would you quit? They say, bro, I end up really want to make about 60. Because I had to pay for my own insurance. He had to do wear and tear on his truck. He had to create his own routes and stores and his
Big Darrell: Yeah.
3 god: own inventory. If anything goes on with inventory, he was responsible for that. So it
Big Darrell: Yeah.
3 god: was like all these responsibilities. Now he probably exaggerated a little bit. He probably still made more than that. But you know, he's probably trying to justify why he came, but He was saying all the stuff that he was still responsible for. Like you said, with the you make so much, but then you really only so much shit going into other people's pocket trying to be independent. And he was just like, shit, so he needed the label free no lane. Cause
Eric: Mm-hmm.
3 god: if he took off, his route shut. Like he had to find his
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: own person. He had to pay for that person if he wants somebody to do it route. But then again, if you pay for some person that ain't everybody, you can't find everybody to do a bread route. So Your route gonna be elfed up, so he gotta do extra work to get that back. It was like it was just too much. So he needed
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: that free delay label. But you go ahead, T we I was just getting the points to what Daryl was saying.
Wills On The Tank: No. I just kinda just kinda piggybacking on what Daryl said. You a l lot of those guys who well I'm I'm doing with it
3 god: I piggybacked off Daryl, nigga.
Wills On The Tank: too, you know what I'm saying? So but
2: Whoa!
smoo: Yay!
2: Whoa! shit!
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
Eric: All right.
Wills On The Tank: Y'all boys wild man. Yeah. I think I think you're absolutely correct about, you know, most of those guys who who kind of championed independence, they they did start at a label. You brought up currency. Currency was on cash money and no limit at one time. Nipsey Hustle, he was on Epic, but you know, he was kind of a he was kind of a champion for, you know, being independent. I really don't know about Dolph. I think if if as far as I under I don't know if Dolph had like major backing, but he, you know, was, you know, saying that he was independent. But I think, you know, in terms of, you know, let's just say one is able
3 god: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: to build up, let's just say if you, you know, really are, let's just say you truly are independent. And I do think it can be profitable or let's just say you
3 god: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: you get to a point to where labels do pay you attention. I think it'd be cool if if you able
smoo: We got 10 minutes.
Wills On The Tank: to If you're able to keep your back out of like you worked out a deal where you say to the label, look, I own this before I got to y'all, if I got six ten albums, six to ten albums and I say something like, you know, I get to keep that. You know, that's all me because that's, you leverage that I put in or work, you know, work with y'all. But being that y'all have the resources, from this point forward, we could work out a deal to where, you know, you get, I don't know, half or, you know, we we do a deal to where it works makes sense for both of us. So I think it's about maybe building
3 god: That's crazy.
Wills On The Tank: but I I I think that's a fair deal though. If coming f coming from your back catalog, if they didn't do if they didn't help you get there, which we have seen some people and I like to bring up Glorilla because she blew up, if I from my if I'm not mistaken, she blew up on her own. So, if she had or let's just say T Grizzly, they said, he had no back, and we did first day out, if he had already had a a catalog prior to that and they said that was his first song. He could negotiate and say, listen, you know, everything that I had prior to y'all, I'm keeping that, but from this point forward we can do a deal, you know? And I I think
Big Darrell: Thanks.
Wills On The Tank: you know, I think that I think that's if you can but the the the the challenging part is how can you get there on your own though with where you can it goes back to leverage when we was talking about Pooh Shysti. Pooh Shicey didn't have no I and I
3 god: Okay.
Wills On The Tank: know that's an old subject, but we still on the same thing. Like I if he was independent, we didn't we wouldn't have known who he was if it wasn't for Gucci. So it makes sense why people fall into certain deals or they decide to take certain deals. Because you're gonna
Big Darrell: Right.
Wills On The Tank: get the short end, you're gonna you're gonna get the short end of the stick if if I have to turn you up. If I you know again I always think about, you know, how much was you getting a show? What was your streams looking like? Were you doing walkthroughs?
Big Darrell: Right, great.
Wills On The Tank: How much merch was you selling? Like these are all the things I think about, you know, so if I put you in the f in in the If I put you in the in good graces, if if you you take on you take on my major platform and I put you in front of these people, then I think I think it's fair for me to get a little more than what you're getting. Then, because I'm I'm putting you out there. Again, you wasn't
Eric: Yeah.
Wills On The Tank: making you wasn't selling no records, you wasn't getting no show money, you wasn't selling no merch, you wasn't getting walkthroughs, you weren't doing none of this stuff. So I I think it's fair for the for the label to take a little more. Maybe I'm going off subject a little bit, but yeah. That's that's my little two sense of the whole situation though.
smoo: Any thoughts Bill?
Eric: Nah, not n not not necessarily. Not on this topic. For real, for real. I believe Yeah, I don't have I don't have much to say on this one. Nah,
3 god: Nigga, knock down.
smoo: It's funny.
Big Darrell: Well, well, well, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Bill. I got I got I got I got a question then. 'Cause it it can relate to you. So it it
smoo: Right.
Big Darrell: just like I I'm gonna say like what Dink said, right? It's like
smoo: Hey, that nigga sleep, that nigga sleep. That nigga know the topic.
Big Darrell: okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay,
Eric: Uh-huh. No, a no, ask it though, ask it though. I it might it might elicit a it might it might elicit a a different thought.
Big Darrell: okay. The question was so so it it I'm gonna make it apply to you. I'm gonna make it apply to you, Bill. Okay. So how do you feel working like say for instance working with a company or agency versus working for yourself? You know what I'm saying? Like far as
Eric: Mm-hmm.
Big Darrell: like being independent, like running
3 god: Yeah.
Big Darrell: your own business, or versus like just going into like A firm and then being part of a firm.
Eric: Yeah, for sure. Man, I mean Smooth talk about this often. Nigga, I think honestly, run it running that I'm a business owner, that shit is harder than what people lead on. And I do feel Wiz Khalifa. Man, if you can go let the labels turn you up and you ain't gotta do your marketing, you ain't gotta worry about the budget, you ain't gotta worry about the clothes. Man, go you know, like just go sign up. Like you really have to decide, yo, if this is what I wanna do. And this and I'ma commit to this, you know what I mean? Because it's hard. Like I I feel weirds. I feel I ain't mad at it. I and I also feel Larry June. You know what I mean? I feel it. It's like As far as Wiz Khalifa though, I ain't mad at it at all. I like, bro, if you done try both he 'cause a Wiz is a person who's tried both, right? Yep.
Wills On The Tank: yeah, for sure.
Eric: He's he's been on the label and he's tried the independent. And what did he do? He said, I'm taking my ass back to a label. I'ma split
Wills On The Tank: Right.
Eric: my money. I don't care, you know. So I'm
Wills On The Tank: Right. Right.
Eric: I respect Wiz because a lot of people won't make that decision. And a lot of people would just let
smoo: Yeah, for sure.
Eric: f pride keep them independent in a space where they don't like it. So I respect we so but Darrell for you
smoo: I'm not necessarily like it, ain't valuable. It ain't
2: you
smoo: valuable as it should be too.
Eric: Yeah, yeah, right.
2: or even the afters of it.
Eric: Right, for Darr, but i f for this for my for your question though, I think for for me, I have better control over my business. And I got
Big Darrell: Right.
Eric: agency over who I wanna work with versus
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
Eric: being working for a agency where they just throw throwing people at me that I don't really care to work with. I done done that before and I don't really
Big Darrell: Facts. Okay. Okay.
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
Big Darrell: That
Eric: So
Big Darrell: that that's great.
Eric: I like I like I like having agency over who I work with. So to answer your question in my world then hell yeah, I like where I'm at.
Big Darrell: Facts, facts,
Wills On The Tank: That's good.
Big Darrell: facts, facts. Cause look, 'cause look. Facts, facts.
Eric: splits is bigger. The splits is bigger. The like like ma'am I I take a I take home I take home shit, I take home ninety I take home ninety eight percent of my profit, you know?
Big Darrell: And look, look, and so so that that applies. That that's you being independent. That's you being independent. But
Eric: That pri applies. That right, right. Yep.
Big Darrell: and then another thing to add smooth before we go, the independent route, right? It makes you a hundred percent liable for your business. That's the thing artists do not take into consideration. So like Bill says, you're you're responsible for a hundred percent of this business. You make a hundred percent, but you are also responsible for a hundred percent. So if that's hiring the staff that you need, right? Hiring the building, going to the studio, the marketing,
smoo: marketing
Big Darrell: the videos, you know what I'm saying? The shorts, the reels,
Wills On The Tank: Delicate and all type of tasks, yep.
3 god: I was just thinking there, T Will.
Big Darrell: the poster. so
Eric: The look, the look, bro.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm. Sometimes hey, that's a it's a art to delicate tasks. Cause you could you can depend on a person to do something. They F up the whole situation and then you like that that can leave you that could put you behind in itself. I think it's a art to just delicate delicate tasks. Like
Big Darrell: Fact and you have to delegate it or you have to hi be responsible for hiring the person, the right people to delegate it, and then you're still responsible. If they've messed up on your shit, the label got people that can fix it. You have to find the people to fix it.
smoo: And that's why you can't just open a grocery store, Dink.
Eric: Hmm.
3 god: Over no growth stuff.
Wills On The Tank: Hey, even even with car dealerships, they they got certain fine they got people in finance, they got the they got the the sales managers, they got the salespeople. It's like it's it's a well it's it's
Eric: Title people like everything.
Wills On The Tank: literally a well oiled machine. And if they feel like somebody if they delegate a task to somebody in finance and if they not doing right, you got to go. You know what I'm saying? And they they until they can get this oil with well oiled machine back running right. So man, I I I do understand what Wiz I understand what Wiz going through. Not well, I don't know
Eric: I'm with wiz. I ain't mad at it.
Wills On The Tank: what he going through because I don't I've never been in that situation, but I can understand his thinking. But I also think about that ep real quick, that episode on Wu Tang Clan where I can
3 god: Okay.
Wills On The Tank: see why people would want to stay independent because there was an episode where this is before Rizzo got into the Wu-Tang or before he developed Wu Tang, where he got his first deal. He was unhappy with his label because they because they was putting the money behind him, they was basically telling him what type of music he had to make, which he wasn't feeling, or he couldn't really, he was kind of losing his creative juices, or he, you know, they put him in his top hat and they had him doing, you know, he wasn't feeling that. So it's like, I understand why one would want to stay independent.
smoo: Yeah, but that that that in itself though that still comes with.
3 god: Hello.
smoo: proving yourself. so
Eric: Yeah.
smoo: yeah, so yeah, you, you gotta, you sometimes you have to tap dance, you gotta, move to the rhythm of somebody else beat, you know what saying? But once you prove yourself,
Big Darrell: Right.
smoo: like the leverage, leverage comes at some point, but I think a lot of these
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: guys, myself included, ego, pride and stuff like that. And that only lasts for so long for some people and they have to go the independent route. But at the same time, all of those doors manage to open back up at some point.
Big Darrell: Perfect.
smoo: And it just goes back to what I speak on all the time
3 god: Yeah.
smoo: about leverage. So you can get that as an independent artist and you can get that as being on a label.
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
smoo: It's just about the route you want to go to get there. And a lot of times, you know, we will suffer. We will suffer. I think we want to suffer going the independent route and being the business owner and stuff like that. And that suffering ain't worth that. The pride you would have had to give up like you think it is. You know, this is my personal opinion.
3 god: Hey, so smooth. That's a great point. So before we
2: Thanks.
3 god: we deal, I do I you know I got something I'm super passionate about because he my dog.
smoo: yeah, we can talk about it.
3 god: I got to talk, we gotta talk about that Stephen A. We got to talk about that shit, cause that shit got a nigga hot. Cause you know Stephen A my boy. So if
Eric: Whatever.
3 god: you wanna set it up.
smoo: Well, yeah, so basically the NABJ group, they gave the National Association of Black Journalists, they gave him a so-called thumbs down award.
3 god: No, that's a really war that's a grape.
smoo: Yeah, yeah,
Wills On The Tank: wow.
smoo: yeah, yeah. And basically, it's kind of like taking away from his blackness and whatever the case may be and how he speak on these platforms. So yeah, you gotta dig.
3 god: bro like I think we were talking about this the other last weekend with black businesses and stuff like that. You're gonna get scrutinized regardless. it was more a detailed conversation than what I just said, but I know that point had came up. I just I just don't like the the out
smoo: We said it last week, we said it last week. We would
3 god: Yeah, I just don't like
smoo: counsel each other to prove a point.
3 god: It don't but it it don't make sense though because they scrutinize this dude ca he talk because it his conversations about Jamie Crockett, his conversations with Michelle Obama, you know, his his controversy with Kyrie Irving and stuff like that. But then he do all this other black stuff like HBCU week for with ESPN never had it before. the All the black people that were like he took scrutiny for getting for Ryan Clark getting fired, but he don't get the props for putting them on there, or putting Cam Newton on there, or Marcus Spears, or freaking Monica McNutt, or freaking who?
smoo: Shining shot. Shining shot.
Wills On The Tank: Centers are
3 god: Shannon Sharp, Michelle Abigougay, I can't pronounce her name, but she was basketball player. Like,
Wills On The Tank: The
3 god: it's so many black people that been on that show, then They talk about what he don't keep the same energy with white folks, but then y'all talk bad about him about with the white folk, but then ain't he the same dude that got rid of Max Kellyman? Ain't he white? Ain't he the same dude that was like they say, well, he don't say nothing about white folks. I thought didn't he go crazy about talking about Tony Romo when he was for the Cowboys for years? He stayed talking about Aaron Rodgers and the COVID shit that he did. And that was his boy. he thought bad man. He stayed on Aaron Rodgers with the shit. Probably just as hard. Not I wouldn't say just as hard, but just as as voicerous as he did with Kyrie Irvin. So I d I just don't understand what cause everybody say, well, he don't have the same the same attitude or the same perspective when it comes to black, when it comes to black or white. But I'm like, bro, I just got you plenty of examples of what he done did. And then they talking about they go with Sabrina So what's the tennis girl name? William. Sabrina
Wills On The Tank: Right. Sabrina Williams Brain of Williams.
Big Darrell: Yeah.
3 god: So his hi her husband came on T V on his show looking for Stephen A. Smith. And he you know they was like and so he was all saying that he was all apologetic. But I'm like, bro, this dude a billionaire, like you never know who he got ties to. So I'm like, I I just I I just don't get it, bro. That's why we
Wills On The Tank: You you're not gonna be able to please everybody though. it's it it is what it is.
3 god: That I but that's one reason I like Steven
smoo: I think it's a little bit deeper than pleasing everybody.
Big Darrell: Whoa what what you mean, school?
3 god: Well but the yeah, I don't I don't I don't think it's pleasing. I think it's just bro, Stephen A, bro, do you, bro. Like that's all I'm saying. Like, bro, if I think he really my thing my advice to him, which I can't give him no advice cause he's doing way greater things than I'm doing right now. But just bro, just just do you, bro. Like F all the ex shit. They and then he be one of the black journalism that was supporting up the NBJ B C J or whatever the night acronym for.
Wills On The Tank: I love Stephen A, man. I really do.
3 god: Man man be yeah he gonna add a little new one little tongue in cheek to some shit like he did with Lamar Odom with he's on crack and he gonna do that he'll entertainer but like bro like he caught stay out
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
smoo: Day after weeee!
3 god: the weed he got on Britt Fawk about the Mississippi thing he was voicerous
Wills On The Tank: Yeah.
3 god: about that he I'm like bro bro like I
Wills On The Tank: He
3 god: I don't be getting that shit though
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah.
3 god: That's why I was understanding when Built was saying about the buddy from when he said this ain't no longer just a black thing. Because, bro, I'm getting scrutiny for y'all and I did it for y'all, but then y'all say I ain't even black. Man, effic. Move around, bro. That's all I'm telling Steve A, bro. Do your thing, Stephen A. Do your thing, bro. Hey, fate. I don't know how y'all boys feel. I like Stephen A.
Wills On The Tank: Do you think Stephen A, I'm with ya. I like Stephen A, I really do, man. I like him a lot. I like him a lot.
3 god: See, they be saying he a drifter and all that because he see kind of like I ain't gonna say he played both sides of the fence, but he just kinda sees like where somebody else may come from. I don't know, bro.
2: I don't think Steven A. Steven A is smart enough to know what the words he's saying or the things he's talking about might put him in
smoo: can't see me too.
2: situations. My video.
3 god: But why you think he's smart enough to say that? do that.
2: show me you ever heard of Steven A's talk, bro?
3 god: So that's exactly. I'm glad you said that, because of somebody else is trying to make that same point. So I'm like, bro, so y'all actually think that this dude is really saying, hey, I'm gonna use my power to kill black folks, but then keep keep some of this power over here just to just give them a nit bit of white folks. I don't I don't get that. what what is he saying so What is he saying so articulate or so strategic to black folks to make sure they get put down that he don't do for white folks? I don't I don't see the difference in him. I I haven't. is he gonna is
2: Bro, listen.
3 god: he gonna talk more bad is he is his criticism gonna be more about black people? Yeah, cause he's sports. He got
2: No, I'm not saying that bro, but I'm saying you could know, you could know even if you think you're right. You like, you like, damn, I know how people take this or how people, don't know.
Eric: To your camera off or I don't know, we can't see you though.
2: Let me just set up my camera. No, but my button camera, saying
3 god: No, I I get it.
2: I won't try to be this
Eric: My bad.
2: person. No, no, I'm a trumpeter
Eric: My bad, bro. I you're trying to get your point off. I just I ain't know you I ain't know you didn't know you could, whatever.
3 god: Nah, it's just I know n and I know what you're saying too about, maybe how he said some other things, some like I I still ain't seen the difference 'cause I seen he was he went in on he went in on Aaron Rodgers when he was talking about he lied about COVID. He went in on Tony Romo constantly talking about how bad the Cowboys was and the quarterback play was. Like he stayed doing it. I d I I don't get it. He always talking about how Jerry Jones is friend, but the Cowboys fucked up. Like what he
Wills On The Tank: He's
3 god: He always promote, he always promotes black coaches. He always put that out there. why isn't more, why is it, outnumber blacks in the in the league, but ain't that many black coaches? He always did that. I don't understand what more the dude got to do. Agree with everything the black majority say? Is that what got him against? Cause they don't agree with everything? Which is crazy to me. I don't know. See crazy. People try to call the man officer title. I'm like, God damn, the man ain't even that far left. what y'all be doing? But, fuck it, bro.
Eric: That's a good point you bring up though, Dink. I don't know. I that's a good point. I I don't know enough about it to speak on it, but that's a great point. I think that's interesting though, if you know, a black organization is giving him this award. Like that's I think if you ain't got nothing positive to say about it, you just just kinda just keep it. Yeah. That that's what's odd to
Wills On The Tank: Just keep it like they used to tell us at school, you have nothing to say, keep it to yourself.
Eric: me.
3 god: to to their d defense, he ain't the only the first person they did it for. They had some other people they did it for before. But and they did it to organizations. But I my thing is well somebody that done did a lot of stuff for blacks, like far as it within his realm, but just because he don't agree with everything you say, or he done
Wills On The Tank: Mm-hmm.
3 god: it may look like he go more in on black people 'cause the only thing he really said about J. McCrock is that, bro, you you keep talking about what Trump ain't doing. They these people wanna you they wanna vote for you. They wanna see what you doing for the people, not what Trump not doing. And that's what his big thing was and they were like, he ain't for a black vote. It's like this is like what? He just he was just making a point. So I don't know man. I don't know bro. I don't know if y'all got too much to say, but that's just how I feel about that. I I just Stephen A bro, do you bro. Do you bro. You got I'm I'm your biggest fan on me. I'm with ya.
2: I know my camera ain't working bro, but nah man That wasn't necessary bro. What they did to Stephen A Smith man that that was out of pocket, bro I get
3 god: Out of pocket.
2: I know I know Steve may say some bullshit about black women sometimes but he late he I'm about to lay it down, but he speaks that way about everybody though. He kind of keeps it fair
3 god: He lay down. That's what I'm saying.
2: He
Wills On The Tank: I think he's fair across the board, yeah.
2: He tripped sometime though, I'll be the first one to say that but to give him the whole, to give him that trophy man, come on man, what we doing man? That wasn't necessary.
3 god: The nigga the the nigga gonna trip sometime. Yeah. Yeah, he gonna trip sometime. The nigga talk
smoo: But I mean it.
3 god: 90 hours a week. So he gonna trip sometime. I ain't saying I agree with everything he says. But the nigga talk ninety hours a week.
2: I don't like I don't I think you trip yeah, but now sometimes, you know, you're Steve Nate Smith man Like sometimes bro, you gotta even if this is your point. Yeah, you know what? can't say it's I'm Steven a But you but at the same time at the war so we had a war so And this is like to conglomerate people? man, come on, man. We, we, damn sure shouldn't him to put him outside. Like what if he never speaks good or highly about our culture again?
3 god: he he get called an uncle Tom because he said he always looked for ways to make his bosses more money. He got called an Uncle Tom for that. He said because the r if he make his bosses more money, I get more money. I'm like, what what's wrong with saying that? I wanna kinda
Wills On The Tank: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yes. Yeah that
3 god: make your Uncle Tom. They call the man an Uncle Tom for that. He said that was like a slave mentality.
Wills On The Tank: He basically saying I scratched
2: All right.
Wills On The Tank: their yeah, I get I get it. He said I scratched their back, they scratch mine. So I mean, but that that's ultimately
2: Whoa, I ain't saying I ain't saying that way but
3 god: I ain't gonna take no scratch back, but that's just like if you're a car salesman.
Wills On The Tank: that that is what it is. Like, you know, to go I was I was about, you know, car dealership, you know. you we if you sell so many cars, you know, you're gonna make the sales manager and the store manager and the owner of the business a lot more money, and in turn, you know, they might bump your.
3 god: You get the ten percent.
Wills On The Tank: They might bump your percentage up, you know what I mean, in terms of it that's and they and that really happens in that business. So yeah,
3 god: Nigga nigga went from selling freaking Toyota to like, nah, bro, we want you to sell the Cadillac 'cause you got you can sell. Like you gonna get more paid, you're gonna get more of percentage. I don't know, man.
Wills On The Tank: that's that's a almost in any business though,
smoo: And y'all niggas better be glad I got these glasses on, because I done fell asleep like three times.
Eric: Man, man, this point, we hey, this point made. This point made.
Big Darrell: Ha ha ha.
3 god: Yeah, I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. I'm depend I'm defending my nigga Stephen A. Smith, man.
2: you
Wills On The Tank: It's it's what I made, man. Yeah, man. Bo man. Water. Water, water.
2: Well... F*** y'all can eat up on the buffets. Water.
3 god: Fuck that nigga.
smoo: Fall home, man.
Eric: Whoa.
3 god: exab.
smoo: Aye yo, yo.
