Drake Has Never Made A Real Hip-Hop Album

Phone Home: Hey, what it do man? It's your boy Smoot, aka Mr. Do What It Do, aka Always On The Move, and this is episode 49 of the Phone Home Podcast.

2: Or some ass your boy too but never second Mr. I can't keep a mouth me she want it at night like sleep and in the morning like coffee What's happening with your three?

3eezy Bih: Hey boys, your boy 3God aka AD3 not the number but the name. I'm back bitch. We're in some technical difficulties last night, last time, but I'm back in there big though man. Three's a bit, three on the shoulder man.

Eric: Yo, yo, you know what it is man, it's your boy Eric. For all you men that have needs, visit myconnectcounseling.net. For all you men that have needs, visit myconnectcounseling.net. Episode 49, man I had to GPT, so notable players that were number 49. I got, they gave me Bobby Mitchell. He played, he didn't even make it to the league. What he played for, oh yes he did, yes he did. Bobby Mitchell, he played for Washington franchise. He ran, he rushed for a thousand yards twice, 19-22, 19-22. ⁓

Phone Home: Don't need to about it big dog. Don't need to worry about it. You could have named a nigga from our high school team.

3eezy Bih: You can take a time out. You can take a time out and make a decision.

2: Man, you could just say the 49ers in there,

Big Darrell: Ha

Phone Home: I'm

Eric: 49ers man, out to the 49ers. Shout out to the 49ers.

The Iron Fist: Hehehehehe ⁓

Phone Home: He could have been like, hey, this was a pivotal year, 1949 to go.

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Eric: Because damn Bobby Mitchell, we don't know who that is. No, but man, you know what it is. Happy to be here. Happy to be back with the guys. Man, it's a blessing. It's a blessing. Shout out to you. No, who got an ace, guy?

Big Darrell: We're gonna have to start knowing years soon

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Eric: Bye bye.

The Iron Fist: Alright, praise to the most high man shit dog. Tarell Tarantino aka Tarell Wheels aka T Wheels aka T Wheels on the tank aka the Carablandada aka the iron fist hitting your heart at the never coming at you like that there man on episode 49. Let's get it

Big Darrell: Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's your boy Big Darryl. I sound good though. My mic sound good? Okay, okay. I was coming in a little hot earlier, but yes, sir. Episode 49, live from the loft. We back. Let's get it. We got Dink in the house. We got Two in the house. And you know, if I'm in the house, it's a full house. Let's get it.

Phone Home: Yeah, you good, bro. You're screwed.

Eric: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

2: Yeah. Yeah.

Phone Home: Okay.

3eezy Bih: Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Hey, what you trying to say? I don't be on that bit now?

The Iron Fist: Yeah, yeah

Big Darrell: Nah, nah, you weren't on here last week though. And then I know me and 2B going back and forth with it, so.

Phone Home: Yeah.

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3eezy Bih: I ain't in your category, bitch. I just had one.

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Phone Home: you slick in them boy category though, for real, for real. That's like four episodes. ⁓

Big Darrell: Yeah

3eezy Bih: Bro, bro, I had technical difficulties last time, but the IT man.

Phone Home: Bro, but that's like, that's like four, that's like four weeks in the last six weeks, bro.

Big Darrell: We didn't have no pushback last week, boy. I was like, damn.

3eezy Bih: Hey, man, look. Hey, that's why I'm back man. ⁓ Hey, look, all that agreeing with everything shit, I'm back.

Phone Home: Hey man, hey shout out to my boy, Bill, man. Look at the phone homeworks, Hey, listen, listen. The material is fucking solid. I fuck with the logo. The estimated 2025, that's even better, man. Shout out to the boy, Bill.

Big Darrell: Fire.

The Iron Fist: Okay.

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Eric: ⁓ we can live again.

Big Darrell: That's fire. Bro, bro, do you got it on the website?

3eezy Bih: Whoa, the what?

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The Iron Fist: EST

Phone Home: What I say? The estimated date established. Come on, man. That nigga be, you can't look for moments like that, bro. That wasn't that funny. That wasn't that funny. You done fucked up the next moment being dramatic on this moment. Come on, man.

3eezy Bih: Allah Allah Allah

2: I know what meant.

Big Darrell: Yeah, established.

The Iron Fist: 2025 established.

Eric: Who knows who made it? Who knows who made it? Who knows what kind of man, man?

3eezy Bih: I've never seen this kind girl

Eric: See?

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Eric: Come on, man.

Big Darrell: Hey, when you edit it, you're gonna hear he saying technical difficulties. He fucked that one up a little bit.

Phone Home: Right, right, right, right!

3eezy Bih: Time out bro. So I'm getting pushed back because a nigga said estimated.

Eric: This is what we're.

Phone Home: estimated contemplated Lakers in five.

Big Darrell: Yeah.

Eric: ⁓ but there it ain't on the website I got it ⁓ I got it on printify and and the site and then publish yet,

3eezy Bih: ⁓ shit! Boy, these niggas are something else, coach.

Phone Home: Let's go man, let's go man.

Big Darrell: ⁓ hold on, hold smooth, smooth. Okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay, because I was gonna say put that up there where they can get it.

Phone Home: Well, so when it comes to that part, I already got the site, I just had to get it reestablished. So you could just add that to the site that we post everything, all the episodes and shit like that.

The Iron Fist: So we just hit you up for it?

Eric: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, so, we, but if you, if you want to march, so march, we still can, I can still get you a hoodie. I mean, I think we're to do t-shirts also because it's about to get warm, so.

Big Darrell: Hell yeah, that what I want, I them shirts.

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Eric: I like that champion hoodie, boy. Yeah, I like it.

Big Darrell: The hat is what's clean to me.

The Iron Fist: Yeah.

Eric: I like all y'all boys' fizz, man. Willie? Two.

3eezy Bih: Nah, you ain't got to on board no praise. It's It's my time. Welcome back, dude.

Big Darrell: I'm

The Iron Fist: It's all about me, nigga!

Phone Home: Yes indeed, yes indeed, man. So you see, you see the, I don't know if it's been on y'all thread, but it's been on my thread a lot lately, you know, about does Drake have a classic album? And I think, you know, nah bro, nah bro, nah bro, nah bro. Bro, let me get through the spill, bro, but you, you wrong, you wrong.

3eezy Bih: you

Big Darrell: Hip-hop album. They say he got a classic album. They say classic hip-hop. No, Ebro went back and said... Okay, okay.

3eezy Bih: Hey, wait a

Phone Home: But I'ma get my spill off, cause I'ma let y'all boys do what y'all do. But I personally think like, saying Drake doesn't have a classic hip hop R &B album, whatever the case may be, the man has a fucking classic album. I personally think he has three classic albums, you know? And I'ma say, take care. Nothing was the same. So far gone. I know, you know, I count all that shit as music. I know the- The other guys, they gonna say that that's not an album, but to me so far gone, Take Care and Nothing Was The Same, those are my three. But yeah, this is crazy like how, I guess it feels like it's just a slow news week and Drake gotta be the one to just take the criticism. But I let y'all boys get to it, man.

The Iron Fist: take the shots.

Eric: Yeah, that's, hard.

The Iron Fist: you ask me man, I think he got at least four and at least two possibles. For me, y'all, like I say, ain't even my GOAT, but I recognize what he got going on. I remember, what's the one with he in the clouds? Nothing was the same? Man, I remember in college, that was just like a never ending. It was just like it never stopped playing, you know what saying? I got so many memories from that album. I actually bought that album twice, you know what I'm saying? I have it in my body for Bill's birthday. I went and got it for me, you know what I'm saying? That album right there is no skips from the pound cake to the Tuscan leather. Then he came back, if I'm not mistaken, y'all correct me if I'm wrong, if you're reading this now, that's too late. Come on. Man, he killed that album, you know, the whole way. And really, don't even like bringing that one up simply because I know that could be out for people to be, you know, hating, know, would say whatever. That could be an excuse to where people could say, I'm hating, you know what saying? Because, you know, so-called other writers or whatever. regardless of that, you know what saying? That is a classic album. The Take Care, man, like what we talk about, you know what I'm saying? Like Drake.

Big Darrell: Quinn Miller.

The Iron Fist: I mean, if you don't like him, you know what saying, just say that. But just to be like, you know, I was listening to something, and shout out to Mav Hoffa, because I watch his content a lot. But I think he was basically arguing, or kind of going back and forth about how he has no classics. I'm like, man, come on now. That is like 100 % false. You know what I'm saying? Let's not do that. You know what I'm saying? So man, I think he got at least, you know what I'm saying, at least four. You know what I'm saying? And again, man.

3eezy Bih: you

The Iron Fist: He didn't gave so much classic material, know, classic rapping, classic R &B. Man, I really could just go on and on. You I'd have said this before, some of them, even those days, like especially the one where he, I keep forgetting, I wanna get it mixed up. The one where he got his head in the clouds, that nothing was the same, is that the one? The cover, his head in the clouds?

Big Darrell: Yep, yep, nothing was the same.

Phone Home: Mm-hmm.

The Iron Fist: Man, you ain't even have to go, you ain't even have to have that album. You could've just walked outside. It was a time where you could just walk outside and they was just playing all the time. know, if a dude didn't have it, girls was playing it. That was like, even that Take Care, that was like that neutral album where, you know what I'm saying, it wasn't too hard. Well, I don't wanna say cause it was hard, but I don't want, it was like a middle, it was like a middle ground. Sometimes you can have hardcore hip hop to where...

Eric: you That's crazy.

The Iron Fist: You know, it don't ring well with women, you know what I'm saying? But then that type of album, he had made a lot of albums where, or at least the albums I'm talking about, where it was just split down the middle. It was perfect for dudes and perfect for women. And this is like, could have went either way. So, you know, I definitely agree that Drake got at least four, at least four classics. That's just my, you know, that's my little opinion.

Phone Home: Hey, and that's a lot coming from you from, damn, I'm ahead of this. But yeah, that's a lot coming from you, Willie O, for real, for real.

The Iron Fist: He got at least four and I say possibly and possibly two more For real man, he just to say he ain't got no clay I heard I'm like I said, was listening to you know that uh that content with math half I think he was just kind of you know giving his opinion, but I was like, come on bro Like we that's to say he has no classics like this is 100 % false. But you know, that's just my

Eric: and

Phone Home: Yeah, and in a sense from Af Hafeate, it kind of seemed like he was creating a clip too, you know what saying? In a sense of like engagement wise, because it's like to sit up here and say like a nigga who been in this game 15 years, don't have at least one classic. Now I can understand like, you know, a nigga might say he got one classic, even though I think he got more. But to say a nigga don't got no classes, I think like you just trying to create engagement.

The Iron Fist: It could be.

Phone Home: You know what I'm saying? TOO, you got it, bro.

2: ⁓ I believe if I'm mistaken they got like a little background too so you know so some sauce from that as well ⁓ you know over woman but I think fish

Phone Home: Wait, hold on. Malfafa and Drake got women in the same vicinity?

2: I don't want to misquote it. I Don't want to misquote it, but I believe it was a she was a battle rapper if I because I think they said it I think I Think somebody said in the battle that Drake was it that he was battling the corridor So, you know, that's she linger Oh But of course me, you know, what I got he got I think got multiple classics I think so far gone

Eric: What?

2: take care nothing was the same I say views if we count the mixtape if you're reading this too late I think that's one for sure if we count if we count the um what it's called the extended version of if we count the album with scary hours added to the end of that album I think that's what's the baby?

Phone Home: ⁓ Scorpion. Scorpion. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You talking about, ⁓ with diplomatic immunity.

3eezy Bih: Courtney.

Eric: No, you tell my father dogs.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, that's what he talking about.

2: for the dogs. Yeah, damn, I forgot about them two tracks. you... He got some... Man, I think it's a...

Phone Home: Oh, You, the scare y'all was scary. That was the first scare y'all was though. Yeah. Okay, okay, okay. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Oh hell no, that ain't no classic album. But you got it though, you got it.

3eezy Bih: Go.

2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. was talking about the second one, they put the deluxe edition. Basically, like, Lil Baby did with my turn. state.

3eezy Bih: It ain't but it did get enough recognition that it should have got because of

2: I think it's knocking on the door. I'm cool with somebody saying it ain't no classic though. But yeah, think, ⁓ like you said, when it's a slow week, who else to put on the algorithm? Drake. I think they just chatting for either personal reasons or engagement in itself. But I think for sure he got those clearly classic.

Eric: Man, this is easy. got six classics. He got So Far Gone, he got Take Care, he got Nothin' Was The Same, he got If You Readin' This Is Too Late, he got Views, he got Scorpion. That's six. I ain't even got the Dark Lanes yet. ain't like, what are we talkin' about? Dark, Dark Lanes? Man, come on. And then, For All The Dogs is amazing. That's eight. And really, if you really wanna put out like R &B,

Phone Home: That's a beautiful album. That's a beautiful album.

Eric: We really some sexy song for you is really that one like that's an album that really is it's like It's more that album is kind of like views part two to me You know what mean? Like it got a lot of hits on there, but it ain't him just rapping rapping He got some cuts on that way rap, but bro Wow, we we can skip this clue like buddy buddy buddy was hate buddy was hating like we the debate is how many classes do it does he have not if he has

2: Right.

Eric: That's the debate. That's the real debate here. Like bro, what are we talking about, man? Like, Smooth said, bro, you don't stay in this game 15 years and put up the numbers you have without talking about how many clutches you have. Like, bro, what? Like, what? 15 years, bro, of dominance? You know, he said 15 years of dominance didn't get you king. Like, everybody else recognizing, like, why?

The Iron Fist: That's the one. That's the debate right there. How many classics? Yeah, that's it right there. Yeah, that's it. That's it right there. gonna stop.

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Eric: ⁓ And I and I like math off well, and I take that back. That's me showing fake love. I don't even know buddy

2: Take that little pain,

The Iron Fist: He got a good show he really do got a good show though

3eezy Bih: Hey, hey, no point intended. No point intended. love with you. I'm not kidding.

Eric: No, but there's no hate. There's no hate to him either though, because I just really don't, I try to be off the internet for real like that. Like on Instagram and shit too, so I live in my time, but there ain't no hate to him.

2: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: legendary battle rapper but yeah man he's ⁓ yeah he he got a great show though

Eric: Okay, I damn so would know that I guess I would know that

3eezy Bih: Bye.

2: He he he a battle rapper.

3eezy Bih: Hey, so I'm gonna go Nick. I know the nigga out to me about the hate, that nigga already started off hating. He said rap out or hip hop, whatever you said. Hey man, hey, hey, hey bro. I'm not gonna lie to you, bro.

2: that literally are. Hehehehehe

3eezy Bih: I really feel like and there's no shoddage moving and I just I really hate we gave cuz the time for the topic. That's just stupid. I this just that was just that's outrageous bro. Like the same Drake ain't got at least three to four albums and that's not including that's not including one of my favorite albums all time with with future. You know I'm saying what a time to be alive like we like nigga. He got anthems on that bitch. You know I'm saying

The Iron Fist: Yeah. That's probably my least favorite one from him.

3eezy Bih: Aye boy, aye. Nah bro, that, that, that, I mean, certified lover boy, I don't think you can say, aye. You know what I'm saying? Certified lover boy, that, like even if you don't.

Phone Home: Hey listen, that nigga certified lumber boy, that motherfucker got me smashes on the dog.

Eric: I wanted to name that one, but I'm like bro. I already gave him eight classics like gave him eight classics already

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3eezy Bih: But that's what I was gonna say, Shma, what I was gonna say. Like, ain't gonna lie to you.

Eric: Champagne, Champagne pours, you make it a classic alone.

3eezy Bih: My credentials for classics is maybe not a classic. If you got four, about four to five hit songs on the album, like you may disagree with me, but I really believe, and y'all, I'm probably gonna kill my point by saying this shit, but I believe what you gotta got a classic, Hurricane Chris. I think his album was a classic. He had like three, four, five, what?

Phone Home: You messing up your rhythm, dog. You messing up your rhythm, bro. You was making a point about Drake Classic and this could be a clip. nigga with the hurricane quench.

The Iron Fist: Play is rock and stuff.

3eezy Bih: Where's my ribbon?

2: Okay, Chris.

3eezy Bih: No, I'm saying I'm telling you what my definition of a classy I'm giving it I ain't like I ain't like whoa, whoa, whoa No, it's not it's not about that. I'm not trying to be like home I'm not I'm not trying to be like half bro. I'm telling you my credentials of a classy nigga. If you got by three to four

Eric: Name is great in hurricane christmas and the sentence is wow A B B

The Iron Fist: Hurricanes get busy. Hurricanes get busy.

Eric: Man, it's so hard to fit in this podcast right now. I ain't got no sh- ⁓

The Iron Fist: I got no shoes on.

3eezy Bih: The fact that you saying this shit prove my fucking point nigga that nigga like that's what I'm saying So but anyway, so what I'm saying is Drake have at least three to four hits on the album each time That alone gets self can make an album of classic. I'm talking about like hits I'm not talking about like just like, you know a banger. I'm talking about like fucking hits anthems and so

The Iron Fist: Corbuz. And not, my bad, my bad, my

3eezy Bih: So again, so I'm just saying like certified level boys and shit. Then like, no bro, I think it's just a waste of time. then anybody that got to say something about hip hop, the difference between a hip hop and an R &B album, hey, I'm not trying to hear that shit. If we calling like the last week or the week before, cause I'm on last week, and we putting all these niggas together. Soulja Boy Raw Wave everybody all that all in one substance then hey it's fair to say you got you can't you can't separate it so yeah he got at least at least I don't know he got six but he leaps I say this he got four plus and you between his album you pick four and you won't be wrong I put it that way he got four plus and I ain't no big Drake fan

The Iron Fist: sure that's fair that's that's fair that is fair

3eezy Bih: But you know, he got four plus. And now I guess the only argument is now like you say was Bip said, I go to different route. I guess you got to figure out which one more classical than the other. That's my route out of the eight. Gee, that's the question. But it was just bored though. But it was just bored.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, that should be the argument right there. How many, which ones are the classics?

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Phone Home: We're gonna do a king of the hill after this.

3eezy Bih: Go there and you'll have your name.

Big Darrell: It's my goal. I just ain't want no talking that I'm talking when I go get my point now Okay So so so ⁓ Ebro cleared it up. He said no classic hip-hop album, right? And so I was thinking about that

3eezy Bih: you

Phone Home: What the you doing nigga? being a You're being a shit. You're You're ⁓

The Iron Fist: hahahahah

3eezy Bih: I'm gonna say my shit then next subject

2: Yeah, yeah, so yeah didn't talk

The Iron Fist: ⁓ my goodness

Phone Home: you ⁓

Big Darrell: I thought about that this whole week since he said that. If we go on traditional sense of classic hip hop, I don't think Drake has a classic hip hop album. I will say he has a classic album, like far as like you do crossover, if you do ⁓ whatever, whatever you call it, what Drake does, right? Cause we know he does more than rap. I do think he has a classic album, but in the traditional sense of a classic hip hop album, I'm gonna say no to that. But he does have a classic hip hop mixtape cause they kept So Far Gone out of it. But I think So Far Gone is Drake's closest classic rap. album but they consider that a mixtape so I think so far gone is classic. I also think the comeback season is a classic rap album when a nigga just spittin bars and niggas just coming with like with hard shit but I think I think the reason why they say no classic hip-hop album and my favorite Drake album is what Will.io said nothing was the same but then when I go over those hits right It's hits, it's hits. And one of my favorite ones, y'all niggas probably hate this shit. Just hold on, we're going home. That's my shit, but that ain't really no hip hop though, you feel me? That shit like global, I love that fucking song. And then I love the one with, he did with Ye. Damn, what's the name of that one? No, Love Lockdown, is that what it is? The one he did with Ye?

The Iron Fist: Going home? That song is so clean. That song is so clean. Yeah.

Phone Home: Right.

2: cop style or something.

Big Darrell: No, I better find your loving. I better find your heart. See that shit, that shit classic. I love the production on that. But when I'm thinking of classic hip hop, I think what they want from Drake is a so far gone and a comeback season. That's what they want from Drake, far as in the album, like the hip hop hits. So when-

Phone Home: Yeah, that's that's thank me later. Thank me later.

The Iron Fist: Well, he did with Rihanna too. Rihanna one too.

Phone Home: So let me ask you this, what is a traditional hip hop album? I'm finna murder you with this point, but I wanna hear what you say though.

Big Darrell: like ⁓ Eomatic

3eezy Bih: ⁓ I can I ask these two Hey, I thought that was on Thank You Later.

Big Darrell: Illmatic 36 chambers

Phone Home: No, no, tell me what a traditional hip hop album consists of.

Big Darrell: Okay, so the top hip hop album, would say storytelling, it has to have a theme, it has to have a topic, has to go, it has to flow. when you go through Illmatic, or even when you go through the Carter one, like he take you through the Carter. Like, so, or you go through, ⁓ even The Chronic is a nice flowing album. A lot of Drake albums are like playlist. So when they say classic hip hop albums, Ready to Die, right? ⁓ ⁓ All eyes on me like when you hear those albums from start to finish They kind of like ⁓ it's almost kind of like watching a movie sonically how they blend together So I know what they're saying, right? I ain't saying Drake don't have classic albums But I know what they saying when they saying hip-hop ⁓ even when you get to Lauren Hill shit Or when you get to ⁓ outcast ⁓ Sudden to Cadillac ⁓ player music

The Iron Fist: Southern Play-a-listy.

Big Darrell: Yep. And then you got AT Aliens. Listen how AT Aliens start and how it finishes, right? Like that's what they want from Drake. Like they don't want just a bunch of good songs or a bunch of classic. They want an album that's like traditionally hip hop. And so to me, the closest thing he has is the comeback season and so far gone. And so that's what, and when I think of classic hip hop album, that's what I think of. Like I think of, and I think of like when you press play on that bitch, ⁓ the perfect examples.

Eric: death. you

Big Darrell: get Richard Dottron. Look how that motherfucker come on, do, do, do, do, do. And then, then mini man, like they have skits in them bitches. have like, you know, it's like basically you hearing a movie.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm.

Eric: Thank you.

Phone Home: So basically you saying that ⁓ now album gotta be a movie. That's what you saying. gotta, but that's what...

Big Darrell: with a classic hip hop album.

Eric: I'm gonna respectfully object you Darryl because if you listen to views it got an opening a closing it got like keep the family close was an intro talking about where he's going through his views, nah you with me, feel no way, man I can go on and on and then

Big Darrell: Views is nice, I think Views is better than Scorpion, right? I like Views, but it's still not a traditional classic hip hop album. It's good, I ain't saying Drake shit ain't great. It's just not a classic occult hip hop album for a nigga like Ebro. And I'm not arguing, I'm just saying.

Eric: Yeah.

Phone Home: So Kanya has no class. So Kanya has no class.

Big Darrell: Kanye definitely has classics.

Phone Home: So, none of that shit you said matches what Kanye does.

Big Darrell: I think I think but you know what only Kanye West classic is to me Kanye West only classic he has great album, but his only a cult hip-hop classic to me is graduation That's his only a cult classic to me It's good is good. It's a build-up and then what's the one late registration? Huh, I don't think so. I don't think so a niggas niggas would die about that album right there, but I don't think so

The Iron Fist: got this trap out.

Phone Home: Okay, so the college dropout is not a classic. ⁓ So my dark swiss fantasy is not a classic.

3eezy Bih: question though can I ask you this?

Big Darrell: I think graduation is Kanye West. That's his top, his most classic shit. He might got classic album, but you don't never really hear niggas put Kanye when they say, got the best rap album. Niggas don't never say Kanye West shit. Niggas don't never put Kanye West with Illmatic. They don't put him with All Lives On Me. They don't even put Kanye West with The Chronic. But they know Kanye West got, and maybe it's cause he got ghost writers and shit and he got niggas helping him write. But they say Kanye West,

The Iron Fist: I loved that album.

Phone Home: What? Bro, can you?

Big Darrell: put him in a category of his own. Now we could do Drake like how we do Ye, but to me his only classic is graduation. Like from start to finish, from samples, from nigga rapping, like to me my dark twisted fancy, that shit was me. That shit like ate away some heartbreaks to me.

The Iron Fist: It's flawless. It's flawless.

3eezy Bih: I ain't, I ain't Darryl, Darryl. I ain't so, so I guess I'm ask you what else considered it a classic because if that's the case, if we only going based off that, then you gotta say T.I. Trouble Man is a classic. Cause that nigga had, no, no T.I. got a classic based off him.

The Iron Fist: I didn't like that album too either, I didn't care for that one either.

Phone Home: T.I. don't have no classics. No, but I'm saying based off of based off of but based off of how he's saying it, but I'm saying just based off of what he's saying, it's a lot of niggas who don't got classics.

The Iron Fist: T, I got at least four.

3eezy Bih: Nah, I'm not trying to make this a TI combo. I'm just saying, cause... Right. Cause, nah, but I'm naming one that ain't a classic, I know for sure, but that was really good album. if you... No, no, no, I'm talking about Trouble Man. Cause Trouble Man gave you a whole story to the point you couldn't even skip some of them bitches.

The Iron Fist: Right, right,

Big Darrell: paper trail, TI paper trail is classic.

2: thing.

Big Darrell: But see, see, see, see, now that could be, that could be correct what you're saying. Cause a classic hip hop album doesn't necessarily constitute a popular hip hop album. You get what I'm saying now? So they not arguing who's popular.

The Iron Fist: No, I hold on let me let me say this because Jay-Z album reasonable doubt that wasn't considered a High-selling hot album, but it's revered as That's his that's a classic. That is a cult classic album It ain't not it because blue plant was more commercial

3eezy Bih: Nah, I disagree with it.

Eric: Hey. Hey, huh?

3eezy Bih: No, it's not considered blueprint though. It's not considered blueprint.

Big Darrell: you down say Jay-Z ain't got no other classics but reasonable doubt. Niggas will argue you down with that shit. They don't care about the blueprint. They don't come out of black album niggas and say Jay-Z only classic album is reasonable doubt to the point Jay-Z even said nigga You want my old shit go buy my old album like damn like y'all niggas want me to go back to that shit And so that's how hip-hop heads are like them niggas are like I don't know what it is But they like shit like Wu-Tang 36 chambers like they like shit like that. Like it gotta be like

3eezy Bih: I disagree with it.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, yeah, see in- Yeah.

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Big Darrell: the most like, I don't know, like New York, basically like, it gotta be almost like you can play that shit everywhere in every borough in New York in the 90s. That's how they revere rap, bro.

The Iron Fist: ⁓

Eric: If you play that chambers in my face, I'm a door 36 feet get it back You talk about a clap man, you know get that up out of here What? Because you boys won by New York standards. Well, we go by New York standards look we got two classics, ⁓ Boosie got one like like we're talking about like look where we got a rap classic

Big Darrell: You

The Iron Fist: It's considered a classic though is conceit but see but see that's the seat but see that's the thing right there when people

Big Darrell: It's considered a classic.

3eezy Bih: He's a boy, that's I say she.

Big Darrell: ⁓ That's so hard when you say that, Bill. It's so hard.

Eric: Webby got a rap class, two of them. We're talking about rapping. Webby got two rap classes and then he got...

Big Darrell: Webby has more classics than Boosie, but I don't know if it's a classic hip hop album. Them bitches is bussing. Webby's shit is hard. I, but see, but see, I have to be, I have to be, but, but, see, see, I have to be, I have to be biased because the south of me wanna say Webby got motherfucking classics, but the hip hop head of me.

Eric: We got more classes than Jay-Z and NAR. Are you playing? We got more classes than Jay-Z and NAR.

3eezy Bih: You your life too? Fabricide 2!

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The Iron Fist: that clip that right there put that out niggas gonna go crazy that's a clip

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Big Darrell: It's like nah, that ain't really a class, but that bitch, it like, it has to have, that's why hip hop, that's why they have sub-genres, right? If we say a classic street album or a classic trap album, then Webby will fit in that category, but you can't put a Webby with a Nas, E, or Maddie. That's like disrespectful.

3eezy Bih: No, no. No,

Eric: No! ⁓

The Iron Fist: But see, them two different time periods though, you know what I'm saying? Like, you feel me?

Big Darrell: ⁓ can you put a webby with the 50 cent get rich and I trying

3eezy Bih: No, no, no, this the problem though bro. So there's gonna be some racist shit to this to explain my shit. So I'm watching the clip. So I'm watching the clip right and basically the dude see two girls in the breakfast area with some bunnies on.

Big Darrell: Don't beat two races, bro.

3eezy Bih: And he was like, man, y'all got all these white folks in here, you got on a bunny. Black dude saying that. I'm like, nigga, you up here, you know, making your reference towards white people. Like you got to be judged based on whites. so basically that's what I'm saying with this shit. We basing our shit based off New York thoughts. Off North thoughts. ⁓ yeah, can we compare that to ⁓ a Get Rich or Die Try? The Savage Life 2, hell yeah! Now, don't get me wrong, get Richard.tryin' my top five, I'm off now, don't get me wrong. But we always go based off the bases of New York. Like, can, no, what the fuck we don't? Okay, what the fuck you for, nigga?

Big Darrell: I will say that, right? I will say that.

2: to. ⁓

Big Darrell: We have to though. It's the birthplace. It's the birthplace.

The Iron Fist: But they they count even even though the South even though the South and the West have have their runs and have had that bigger runs are you know most people say arguably most people do go out they way to get New York respect You know I'm saying like like I remember a line. I remember line TI said TI said ⁓ See you on TV in New York them niggas laugh at us You know so like it's like everybody said to everybody even though we are our own thing

3eezy Bih: back in the day.

The Iron Fist: We always for some reason want to be accepted by New York because supposedly New York is the birth of hip hop. You know what I'm saying?

3eezy Bih: Not no more though. I get that, but I don't think no more. I think that shit been died down.

Big Darrell: birthplace. Yup. Well, well, and they will argue that's why rap has died down.

Phone Home: Nah, hell nah. Fuck no. Well that leads into the, ⁓ that leads into the... But listen, that leads into the, ⁓

Eric: I know, I know.

3eezy Bih: Nigga, we the reason, hey, we the reason Ralph's still alive, nigga.

Big Darrell: That is a debate. Since the South hasn't gotten hip hop, the hip hop has declined.

The Iron Fist: New York is a tough crowd,

Phone Home: Well, that leads into the third question, was the New York rap scene versus the Atlanta rap scene in the 2000s. know, who really ran this shit in the 2000s?

3eezy Bih: South. I'm just being honest.

Phone Home: Well, you got in New York in the 2000s, you got Jay-Z, you got 50 Cent, you got Nas, you got Jaru, Murder Inc, Bad Boy, DMX, and then Atlanta, you got Outkast, T.I., Ludacris, GZ, Gucci Man, Future, you know. Yeah, Atlanta. This nigga said Wayne. Oh my God.

Big Darrell: DMX.

3eezy Bih: Damn it.

Big Darrell: We strictly doing a llama though, right? A llama. Okay, okay, a llama.

3eezy Bih: Wayne Wayne you mentioned Wayne South

Big Darrell: No, no, no, no, he said Atlanta. That's why I said Atlanta. Uh-uh, no, Atlanta versus New York.

3eezy Bih: I thought we said South versus North. I picked your damn head up, nigga.

Phone Home: He said, you're a virtual letter, bro.

3eezy Bih: I thought he was South person.

Phone Home: So, shit, mean, based off of that, shit, I'm taking Atlanta.

Big Darrell: Hold on, hold on, hold hold on. We missing some rappers though, huh?

The Iron Fist: would say also in this New York, think also they tried to ride the South wave because it was like one time like niggas in New York was jumping on Lil Jon beats, you know what saying? so I mean, I think it's something that's...

Phone Home: ⁓ yeah, and you got it. You got to include niggas like look John too. You got to include niggas like look John your French out boys You got to include all of that shit

Big Darrell: Yep.

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Big Darrell: You gotta include Mobb Deep, Fabulous, G-Unit. You gotta include Terror Squad, Fat Joe, Nymph, Kameron.

Phone Home: Yeah. Mmm, see. See. See.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, them boys was bad. Dipset had their own little sub movement. now, if I can say, if I can say, and I can honestly say that I looked up one time and it just like Dipset, they had a movement so strong that niggas in the South was doing the same things that like they was doing. Harlem, that Harlem movement with the, with the how they niggas was dressed and stuff. Like I remember one time niggas was dressing in pink just like camera. I never heard nobody really just bump a camera like down South like that.

Phone Home: Do I ask antenna?

The Iron Fist: But niggas was in, they had enough influence to where people was trying to dress like them though. You know what I'm saying? So like, I remember I used to go to like little Pascagoula games and it wasn't nothing to look up and see dudes with pink shirts on. And you know where that came from. You know what I'm saying? That came from Cam, but I don't-

3eezy Bih: Yeah, camera hunt that, though. I will give you that. Nah, I'm gonna make...

Eric: Well, Kanye did that too now. Kanye ushered that in.

Big Darrell: my fault. ⁓

The Iron Fist: I would say Kanye more is more like polos and stuff like that. Kameron was responsible for the pink. That's what I would say.

3eezy Bih: ⁓ Camera, I remember camera with that pink, he was, yeah, he was one for that pink shit. nigga wear a tall two pink piece.

Eric: Didn't miss another good one. They're from New York, right? And he from New York?

Big Darrell: Yup yup DMX

The Iron Fist: ⁓ for sure, Is Yonkers? I don't know, where is Yonkers? I don't know nothing about the upstate. Yeah, okay, okay. yeah, that boy was a monster.

2: doesn't.

Big Darrell: Yeah, New York, New York is upstate New York. Yep. ⁓

Eric: Then you got Mickey Manalis from New York. You got...

Big Darrell: Ooh, we forgot about Nikki. God damn. Nikki Minaj.

The Iron Fist: Home?

Eric: see yeah yeah Cardiff well Cardiff Cardiff from the north

Phone Home: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: ⁓ yeah, yeah, yeah. But see, her sound was so universal, it almost like she wasn't even from New York, if that makes sense.

Big Darrell: ⁓ we forgot about Nikki.

2: What's in there?

Big Darrell: Where is Lauren Hill from? She from New York, huh?

Phone Home: I don't think so. This is from Jersey. Damn. it looked like it shit. looked like it looked like the New York probably still ran shit in the 2000 for real, for real. I think Atlanta, I think Atlanta from a perspective of.

The Iron Fist: I think they like from New Jersey or something. I could be wrong about that though.

2: Yeah, shift and look, something like that.

The Iron Fist: I could be wrong. Yeah.

2: Bye!

Big Darrell: ⁓ it's tough, it's tough.

Phone Home: Maybe if you said North versus South, then I think the South could combine and on New York, but just from Atlanta versus New York, nah, I think New York still was running shit.

Big Darrell: North versus South? Jersey, yeah.

3eezy Bih: That's why I thought it was insane.

Big Darrell: Because if you say New York has bigger universal artists, because I think a lot of biggest universal artists is Outkast and TI, to be fair. Then you could throw Future in there, but Future couldn't be the Jay-Z, and a TI couldn't be probably a DMX, in global success.

The Iron Fist: Especially outcasts, transcended.

2: What was they run like in the 2000 though, you know, some of the boys was coming out a little earlier than that

Big Darrell: So hold on, let's see.

3eezy Bih: So are we talking about, so just give me.

2: Especially when you go identity wise, that's Atlanta for sure. New York.

3eezy Bih: Are y'all talking about like the South or North or just Atlanta versus New York?

Big Darrell: Atlanta versus New York. And it is right to do that because after hip hop left New York, it went to Atlanta. We can arguably say that.

2: line of

3eezy Bih: ⁓ I think that's...

Phone Home: Right, right, right. But I think.

2: then we can agree on that.

The Iron Fist: No doubt.

Phone Home: You said what,

Big Darrell: Probably 03, right? ⁓

2: when it it switched from ⁓ New York to Atlanta.

Phone Home: Whenever whenever 50 Cent start beefing with them boys, that's when it switched That's when they switch like right after that damn New York song came out nigga the bottom fell out of New York

The Iron Fist: New York. Yeah, ay.

2: So that's mid-2000s.

Phone Home: That's like 2004, 2004, 2005.

Big Darrell: Well, well, yeah, yeah, I would say probably like when it look John come out and when they are Jesus come out

Phone Home: Nigga, 2003, 2004, and Bilt. Me and Bilt was on the baseball field. She taking her clothes off. Ooh, she naked.

Big Darrell: Yeah, that's what I say. I say 2003, 2004.

Eric: Who's the GD? He is, I don't disrespect him.

The Iron Fist: Don't disrespect it!

Big Darrell: And then you get niggas like little scrappy you get niggas like ⁓ what's them do them the two the two guys ⁓ young bloods

2: You

The Iron Fist: Scrap had it boy being me. ⁓ hold on. Yeah. Yeah

Eric: Yeah, crime

Phone Home: ⁓ yeah, YingYing Twin?

Big Darrell: Ying Ying Twins, Young Blood, D4L.

Phone Home: Yeah? Hey, nah, you make it.

The Iron Fist: Scrappy, I ain't that scrap had me in a chokehold boy that trivial

Big Darrell: And then Soulja Boy come out, you know Soulja Boy claim a limo? So hey, then Soulja Boy just really, they really took that shit then. With that snap and that snap music.

2: Yeah, our subs might be in the other tier on top, man.

Eric: Yeah, right, right.

Phone Home: Hey, damn, you making some solid points there. Real shit.

Eric: I ain't

Big Darrell: Atlanta ain't no joke now. It just, I don't know if it was, I don't know if it was a regional thing, cause we from the South though. Them niggas up North probably like, man, I don't wanna hear that shit. Well, you feel me?

Eric: But see, Atlanta ushered in a sound. They got producers that's crazy out there too. we got Zay Tov and you got Nitty. Them Nitty Beats was crazy at one

Big Darrell: And you know where it was too though, cause down south we like to have fun. We like to party. like to dance. New York niggas don't really go to clubs like that. They don't go to strip club. They don't do that. New York is known for cold fashion and like having trench coats and hoodies on and like big bubble coats. But down south, we like to party. We like to go to the club. That's like what we do. So Atlanta ushered in that way for party music. It wasn't really too much like

Phone Home: That's good point.

The Iron Fist: I see

Big Darrell: bounce, bounce, bounce party music until Atlanta. ⁓ go ahead, Willie. I'll finish.

The Iron Fist: And I think, I, my back. was just gonna say like and I think that's the major contrast between New York and down south see I think one reason why New York I think gave down south people such a hard time is because they go for lyrics but a lot of times if and this is just coming from a southern perspective a lot of times if you listen to ⁓ East Coast beats it don't really make southern people bounce like like like beats down I think I think to us beats are the real selling tool. Like we like to bounce. feel me? Then we'll hit lyrics second. You know what I'm saying? And I think with New York or East Coast rap, they're not necessarily really just focused on beats, although they got their legendary producers like DJ Premier and you know, other people like that. But ⁓ They go for lyrics. Well, just how I see it. It seems like they really care more about lyrics and then beats are second. You know what I mean? I mean, I could be wrong, but that's how I always seen it. You know what I mean? Like, we like to bounce. Or...

Eric: I'm gonna be trying to kick knowledge man

Big Darrell: Hey them niggas that rap on I used to hate New York bees back in the day but I'm busy like it just sounds so eerie like Nigga rap on that shit for 30 minutes like the beat

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm.

Eric: You sound like an alarm, man. If you don't play shoulder lane and get this out of my court, you're like, What you doing, bro?

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: Yeah.

2: You

Phone Home: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: And see, and that's, and I think that's why, I think that's why it's so hard to like get Southern and up North people on the same accord. And that's another thing, I said this one before, like when you get people on the same, on the same accord, it's almost like magic. That's why when you hear 50 Cent on a West Coast beat, like, you could find me in the club, that sound like something Pac would have been on. You know what I'm saying? Like when it first came out.

2: You

Eric: Yeah, yeah. Hey, I would

Big Darrell: Not like the one he did for ⁓ t i that shit weak because he he don't know how to pick beats The nigga don't know how to pick beats for real now that bruh. Hey willio said something then willio said something then the nigga needed dr. Dre He needed dr. Dre

The Iron Fist: Hmm.

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Phone Home: was was pretty lovely.

Eric: Hey, I will say this though, the only-

The Iron Fist: And that sounded like something Pac would have been on.

Eric: ⁓ Yeah, well dr. J is a super producer Yeah, but you know I get I do appreciate of no rappers though. I appreciate him a little more like like Jay I Appreciate him a little bit more Nas I appreciate even the stuff he be dropping with hit boy I appreciate him a little bit more now, you know, I guess Az yeah, I hadn't got on him yet

The Iron Fist: He- Yeah, exactly! Hey Z, but nobody wanna show him,

Big Darrell: AZ is nice, hell yeah.

2: I get it.

The Iron Fist: Hey Z NICE man, I'm telling you, he like an underground jewel or something man, like his style is like... And that's what I like about, like I think one of us mentioned it, man, New York, it's not, you know, not only do they bring flows or you know, the swagger when they with their lyrics, but it's the, they style a dress too.

Eric: I'm sorry, guys. Yeah.

The Iron Fist: Like I remember one time just telling somebody when I was little I was like, man, I'm Harlem niggas. They probably the best dressed niggas in the game. You know what saying? Like, especially when dipset niggas was running it, you know what saying? Like they, they whole style was just different. You know what I mean? Like the way they dress, they jackets, they, you know what I'm saying? The different kind of Timberland boots and man that they style, they swag was just so clean. And I'm not saying Southern people ain't have that, but it was just, it was more stand out. Like I,

Big Darrell: You know what saying? Especially when Dipset was running it, you know what saying? They all style shit.

Phone Home: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: Like I remember telling I was like man cam especially at that time I was like man cam gotta be the most fashionable nigga man look at ASAP rock You know I'm saying he know more for fashion He know more for fashion than his music and it was damn like if you like I remember when I first heard ASAP Rocky it was almost always like that with him they always put him in fashion right like neck and neck and it ain't

Big Darrell: Yeah, I was about say a South Rocky up from Harlem to Yep.

The Iron Fist: It ain't no really surprise to me why he has elevated in the fashion game. Because that's always what he, since he came out, that's just what it was. And he's from Harlem.

3eezy Bih: Fabulous was on that. Fabulous was on that. ⁓

Big Darrell: Nah, nah, let me ask you this, Willie-o. When did Atlanta start doing fashion? Do y'all remember when Atlanta started doing fashion? I bet y'all don't remember.

Eric: They're gonna have a lot of kids. We think it's be a good idea.

2: I forget about that.

Eric: No, that lie is so crazy.

The Iron Fist: I really don't, I'ma be honest with you.

3eezy Bih: We'll have a good one.

Big Darrell: Cause niggas in New York always been talking about fashion, but we weren't really peeped on it. But when did niggas in Atlanta start doing fashion? Like what time period?

Eric: YT

The Iron Fist: I can't. Yeah, see, that's what I'm saying. See how we see how and that's how to just stay right there. Stay right there for one second. That's what it was in the South, even in New Orleans. Tees, bows and reeds.

2: some of...

Big Darrell: I'm a tell you don't watch this It was it was it was around It was a Exactly, but then after that it was around ⁓ maybe like ⁓ seven away right when you had like Rocco them come out And they used to what a goo and on shawty low. They used to have a Gucci backpack and the Gucci are Bandanas and the Gucci bucket hats. Y'all remember the era

Eric: YG?

2: Futuristic.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I do

Big Darrell: But before then, niggas ain't really have too much designer shit on. Niggas had big white tees, black white tees. Think about Gs in them. Now niggas having millions of dollars, niggas ain't have no fashion sense. But in 2007, 2008, that's when niggas started wearing like ballies, niggas started wearing Gucci's, niggas like.

The Iron Fist: Hehehehehe Zippies and all that stuff. Like I ain't never even heard of that stuff before.

Eric: Hey, honestly, honestly though. I honestly like I only remember when future started talking about it down south.

Big Darrell: Exactly, and that's the era, 2008, 2009. And then you got Rocco, what was that song? I'ma do me. And the nigga had the Gucci, he say, this morning, I woke up, that's around that little time period. And Future is one of the ones who really, what it was, Jimmy Chooz, you remember Jimmy Chooz was the thing?

Eric: Yeah, feature looks... Yeah.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, yeah.

Eric: Yeah. ⁓

The Iron Fist: Woke up.

2: That's my bag.

Eric: Yes, Mason Margiela. YouTube was wearing that. Like, he talked about that a lot in his songs. He talked about that a lot.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: He's one of the ones who pioneered fashion to Atlanta. But before then, niggas was wearing white tees and jabos and shit.

The Iron Fist: Right, for sure. That's a fact. That is a fact.

Eric: I know we kind of got off topic but I I got to hear which one which album do y'all think is Drake's top album

Big Darrell: think nothing was the same as his top album.

Phone Home: So what we're gonna do, we're gonna do King of the Hill.

The Iron Fist: I like that one. I like that.

Eric: okay, okay, my bad, my bad. ⁓

Big Darrell: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we could do that. We could do that for we go to the next subject

Phone Home: But nah, we can stay on this 50 and this TI. This 50 and TI beef. I wanna hear y'all hanging on that and where y'all think that's going and how y'all feel them boys did in the beef, man. Specifically, Domani.

3eezy Bih: you

Eric: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: Okay. I want to go first then Domani went hard. He stole baby kingdom shit, but he went hard. He went hard now He definitely out rap 50, but I'm like, hmm He didn't have to do that cuz TI shit out outweighed 50 shit But I think it's a good setup for them to do verses cuz ain't none of them really too much cross the line Like it's just like old head beatin Who you think cross the line?

Phone Home: You ain't crossed the line.

3eezy Bih: that line across bro you can't can't fuck with each other after this shit this shit dead nigga you talking about dead mamas? that's that's like bro it was i remember at a point in time you couldn't say shit about mamas and to that show your mama came

The Iron Fist: I think that boy King, that boy King, he...

Big Darrell: Hold on, why y'all think that? Tell me why.

The Iron Fist: Nah, ⁓ heck nah, ain't no way, ain't no way. Yeah, yeah man. This nigga.

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah, I ain't think about that part. I ain't think about that part. God damn. Yeah. Yeah

2: Yes.

3eezy Bih: Like you could say now you talking about then you talking about nigga try to kill his own kid. Man y'all. Hey bro, it's on site now. ⁓ This shit be y'all. This shit be y'all rekindling bro. To me, to me.

2: Yeah, pack it up.

Big Darrell: So, so, so you don't think they can do a verse even if Jeezy and Gucci did a verse? You don't think Tia and 50 can do a verse?

The Iron Fist: Yeah, it's halfway.

Phone Home: How?

3eezy Bih: I'm not gonna say, no, no, no, no.

2: Nah, difference between that situation, you had G's in that situation. This TI in 50 is two Gucci Mane's on stage. That ain't gonna...

The Iron Fist: I don't think they gonna be willing to do it at all.

Big Darrell: I think TI willing to do it. I don't know if 50 is willing to do it

3eezy Bih: No, see the difference between Gigi and Gucci is they did that shit when they was child. I mean kids or whatever, kids, but younger adults and then maturity factor took up. You talking about 260 yos going at it and they kids dawg. this shit, nigga, if you ain't change now, you stuck in your ways, bro. And like 2J said, even with the...

The Iron Fist: Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I agree with that.

2: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: Jesus you had somebody that was more like, bro, I get it. It was my homie that died, but I'm really good to, you know, let's make some cheese off the shit. Now, I will say this, it's not far from it. can still happen because cheese is cheese. And you know, you might say, hey, look, hey bro, you know, we, you know, we hate each other, but hey, write it up. But.

Big Darrell: It's not far from happening, it's still happening, because cheese is cheese. You might say, hey, look, hey, bro, we hate each other, but write it up. I think 50 Cent scared the TI. I think he scared the Luz.

The Iron Fist: Really?

3eezy Bih: What, a verse is what you talking about?

Big Darrell: Cause it would have been easy just to say yeah, like it ain't like he no new artist nigga. You a legacy act. Nigga, can't, you can't, you, hey, you meet the qualifications for a fucking versus. Don't act like you too big for a versus nigga. You is a legacy act and.

3eezy Bih: Well, I don't know, I don't- I was saying but this ain't his first three for verses and he take that three so

Big Darrell: But who he had to, I think he's scared he'll lose the TI. I still think that's the fact.

Eric: Thank

3eezy Bih: I think I just don't think 50 care I just like I don't think I don't think 50 care just like I don't think

2: Thank

Big Darrell: That's true, that's true.

Phone Home: I'm gonna pop this bottle y'all boy man, peace and quiet man, peace and quiet man y'all boy man

Big Darrell: Toast.

2: Cheese press, really.

3eezy Bih: I don't don't Thanks, I don't think I don't think I don't think hey boy shut the hell up

Eric: I out at my Hennessy. I went out looking at my Hennessy.

Big Darrell: yeah that white Hennessy

Phone Home: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: Yeah

Eric: Right.

Big Darrell: ahead, go ahead with it, Bill, go ahead.

3eezy Bih: Nah, honestly, I mean you can agree with this, but I don't think 50 gave a fuck. Just like don't think Jesus gave a fuck about who made trap music. I think this TI just be like, I think he cared much about shit that most niggas don't care about at their ages. ⁓ My bad, so I was just saying, can y'all hear me?

Eric: Yo, mic blow, dude.

Phone Home: Yo, there's your mic.

The Iron Fist: Yeah.

Phone Home: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: It ain't as good as it was.

3eezy Bih: Now I don't know what happened. Damn, Bilt then hacked my stupid ass. Can y'all hear me?

The Iron Fist: I thank you back. You good?

Eric: Damn, yeah.

Phone Home: Hey, but I disagree with that point though. I disagree with that. I don't think T.I., he ain't, I think T.I. just, he wants that respect. He wants that respect for his catalog. And I think he lost that respect after he went to jail. You know what saying? Cause I tell y'all all the time, No Mercy, nigga, that's one of the best albums of all time, in my opinion. Like if I put, if I put a classic, No Mercy gonna be a classic for me.

The Iron Fist: Yeah.

Phone Home: You know what saying? But when he went to jail, that shit disappeared in the wind. And I think...

3eezy Bih: ⁓

Phone Home: I think, I just think, I think TI wants that respect for his catalog. I think that jail, jail messed TI reputation up. And I think he just, he not begging for it because amongst us, we know that TI catalog is better. We know his music is better. But when you talk about New York and you know, just this whole, all this shit that we talking about, they don't give TI that credit like the South does. And then when you talk about, you talk about it all the time.

The Iron Fist: idiot, idiot. the rat race.

Phone Home: his social media, know, some of the shit he say is brought down his mystique. So I think he wants that. He wants that shit back and he can gain it back in a verses with somebody like 50 Cent. But does he need it or does, nah, he ain't begging to do this shit. But I think he's a, that's a worthy opponent.

2: Mm-hmm.

Big Darrell: that's the only one that hasn't had a versus yet really for real

3eezy Bih: That's the thing though, Smooth, you you what saying. You said T, I say, don't think 50 give a fuck. I don't think 50 give a fuck about me. You don't give a fuck about what I

Phone Home: ⁓ my bad. Well, I guess I didn't give a fuck.

2: You

Phone Home: I think Tia, think, well, so to the point of 50 Cent, I think I said this to somebody on Instagram. I think 50 Cent, he has this idea that he's bigger than Tia. You know what saying? And you could say that with the TV shows, you could say that with the Get Richer.tryin'. Nobody is arguing those two things. You got Get Richer.tryin'.

Big Darrell: You I think... ⁓

The Iron Fist: I Peace.

Phone Home: and you have TV shows. But nigga, if you're talking about a music career, TI is shitting on 50 Cent.

3eezy Bih: Fakes.

The Iron Fist: What about the listeners on Spotify though? Cause 50s is significantly more than that.

Phone Home: Okay, all right, so I bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet, bet

3eezy Bih: That's wrong.

Phone Home: That nigga, he was popping before streaming came out. So all his listeners, all his listeners and shit like that, them niggas ain't on that stream and shit like that. That's my personal opinion.

The Iron Fist: Well, what about this? Well let me just say this, just to give you some pushback, just to kind of take dink style ⁓ on the table. Some people would say, and ⁓ mind you, Tip is my boy. He's one of my favorite rappers behind Tupac. But ⁓ some people would say that 50 has sold significantly more albums than T.I. with his shorter span of music. Does that come into play?

Phone Home: The ludicrous, it don't count.

Eric: you

Phone Home: I don't think that comes into play because all that is still, give Richard that try.

Big Darrell: because majority of it is good Richard I trying and the massacre and we know the massacre was trash

3eezy Bih: That's why I'm all love with it.

Phone Home: And the massacre only sold so much because Get Richer.Try.

2: I went down to them.

3eezy Bih: because of what would get Richard out of time. And after the massacre, the massacre lived up to his name.

Big Darrell: Richard Dyer trying. And it's not a cult hip-hop classic. He only got one classic.

Phone Home: yeah, damn, Boston Massacre.

3eezy Bih: and ask and live that day and night.

The Iron Fist: Hey, hey man, he has some stuff on the massacre now. He has some stuff on the massacre.

Big Darrell: And to...

Phone Home: He did!

3eezy Bih: He had some stuff. Everybody got some stuff on the album. That's one reason.

Big Darrell: Yeah, that's true. I like candy shop. Y'all niggas hate that shit. And I love that shit. You feel me? So. ⁓

The Iron Fist: I hate that- ⁓ my goodness.

Eric: ⁓ But that night that get in my car ⁓

3eezy Bih: in.

The Iron Fist: ⁓ that man, I'm telling you boy that hold on that position of power That ⁓ my god, bro Like come on boy that that massacre that Baltimore love thing. He has some stuff on the massacre. Hold on. on What's that song he say I pull up I don't know what you take me for. I Really don't play this. You know, I'm talking about that's man. Come on boy

Phone Home: I got no pickle, man I smell a bitch all the time. Bitch kitty!

2: I'm go. You

Eric: It's going to follow like a rider music Man I'm crazy for real

3eezy Bih: Hey bro, hey, hey bro, hey bro.

Big Darrell: I ain't like disco inferno.

Phone Home: Yeah, that's exactly what we talking about, right?

3eezy Bih: Exactly, that's exactly I just about to say this shit nigga. That's why I called them out. Hey, bro. Look, bro. What thing look bro. Look, bro. We're not gonna

The Iron Fist: That song is... That song is so clean! ⁓ another song! Y'all niggas know, y'all niggas know what I'm about. Y'all, you telling me y'all don't remember that? Man, come on, that massacre was clean! That massacre was clean, boy!

3eezy Bih: Exactly, we appreciate it.

Eric: up. I'm crazy.

3eezy Bih: No, bro. Ain't nobody listening to the massacre, bro.

Phone Home: No, we don't. You telling me y'all don't remember that? Nigga, no!

3eezy Bih: No, nigga. Y'all don't remember that smooth? No, nigga.

The Iron Fist: Y'all need to go back and listen to ya!

Phone Home: We're not going back. We're not going back in time.

Big Darrell: gonna have to go back and listen to that, cause I don't know about that one.

The Iron Fist: Hey look boy 50 had some 50 hat boy 50 was hard to deal with back then man

3eezy Bih: No, he was not, bro. He had, he had, he had.

Eric: ⁓ But do you remember do you remember top back do you remember top back?

Big Darrell: one album and the movie soundtrack was nice. The movie soundtrack was nice.

The Iron Fist: That position of power.

Phone Home: movie soundtrack is hard. Get rid of that soundtrack.

The Iron Fist: What was it? What's that again, Bill?

2: Yeah.

Eric: I said, do you remember top back when he hit? Do you remember what you know about that? Do you remember whatever you like?

Big Darrell: Get rich without trying a soundtrack.

The Iron Fist: Hey look, Tip is my boy. I'm just saying like the massacre is not a weak album to me. It's not.

Phone Home: I mean, but that's what I'm saying though. I don't think it gotta be weak, but at the same time, like bro, like that album is, I think the massacre is almost diamond. Like, you know what saying? ⁓

Big Darrell: Yep. ⁓

2: to do.

The Iron Fist: They say Curtis, I think Curtis got like a billion streams, the album Curtis.

Phone Home: I'm not, I'm not count, I'm not count streams. I'm talking about, I'm not, I'm talking about like, I'm talking about what that shit did when it came out. I think like the massacre did like a million first copies too. You know what I'm saying? Like.

3eezy Bih: Anything out of the mouth, bro. I'm not talking about you. I'm sorry. I mean, I'm not talking about you.

The Iron Fist: Well, okay.

Big Darrell: Yeah, hell yeah, they did do a million. They did a million.

The Iron Fist: I think it did too. Did it did too? Hold on, we gotta look that, I wanna say it did too.

Phone Home: Yeah, so I think a lot of, I just personally think you can't, because somebody had pointed that out. They was like, man, look how many listeners Ti got versus whatcha call it, got. But it's like, bro, y'all do know this nigga has like eight TV shows. He's like one of the biggest rappers on social media and just like, stand active. Yeah, he just went on a global tour. All of that contributes to being popping on Spotify.

Big Darrell: and he's still going on global tours.

Phone Home: In my personal opinion, I don't think that changes their music though. I don't think that changes the music.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, that's fair, that's fair.

Big Darrell: And look, 45 million people can play in the club. a ⁓ nigga can play that shit three times out the month.

Phone Home: Yeah. And nobody is denying that TI don't have a get rich and die trying. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Big Darrell: get rich at that time.

3eezy Bih: He don't. Whoa, whoa, he don't, he don't.

The Iron Fist: Listen, first week numbers from the massacre sold 1.14 million copies. By the third week he was at 2.3 million and it said worldwide he roughly 6 million copies. ⁓ He was making some noise back then boy and that's just with one album.

Big Darrell: But look how hot it was at first and the shit died down. For it to be, damn, 20 years old, that shit only sold six million copies worldwide.

Phone Home: Hey, but look though, I wanna bring up a valid point too, because you can't, cause what Willie O trying to say is, hey man, the massacre was a solid album and you know, it did 6 million copies. That's what you saying. But at the same time, but I think Darrell said something too, like you do gotta look at like, I'm not talking about what you said about the longevity of it ain't went diamond and you know, since then, but I'm just saying though.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, I thought that was gonna happen.

Phone Home: You kind of do got to look at what does the third album do.

The Iron Fist: So this was missy did it.

Big Darrell: Look up the third album, will you?

Phone Home: You see what I'm saying? Like what does that third album do? Because that second album could be riding off the first album. You know what saying? what does...

2: Thank you.

The Iron Fist: their Curtis let me see

3eezy Bih: Yeah, of course, because that shit was so hot. was like, holy shit, what he got mixed?

Big Darrell: And what the full of ammo I know he lost a yay. That's when Hey honey, hey honey

Phone Home: Right, so what did the third bit

The Iron Fist: let me see Curtis Curtis by 50 cent okay man he still had a massive week though this man did 691 thousand the first week

2: That's the third one. Curtis is one the other ones. I get money.

Big Darrell: That's a big difference, that's half. That's half, Willie O. Not when you doing one million.

Phone Home: And that's a big difference, though.

The Iron Fist: It is, it is, but that's still massive though.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, that's a huge deal. non-hitch ram though T-Wheel. Hey T-Wheels you gotta think about it. If you make a million dollars one day and then your next day you only make 400k you're gonna be like 400k still a lot but that ain't what you did yesterday.

The Iron Fist: without a Rickers boy. But, I mean, they was trying to say that about Michael Jackson when he was, listen.

Phone Home: Hey, and then it kept declining after that.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, yeah, of course. He loves the Kanye.

Big Darrell: Yep.

Phone Home: But I'm just, no, I'm talking about the albums. Everything he did was declining after that.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, yeah. I was like, hey mute. Hey, so my argument with this this I do got a question on this. Because you know, I got a big problem with versus I don't really I don't really care for versus because I still don't think it's a win and lose in it unless it's the masses because the only thing that's for sure is the numbers but y'all don't like numbers because now it turned into a show master P1 because he came out that bitch stepping his knees.

Big Darrell: With high knees, boy.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, so I just don't I don't I don't I really don't give a fuck about verses because of stuff like that because it really don't only concrete is numbers, but anyway, so now I asked I asked the people like so is it really a verses if if that because we really so really we go over verses for nostalgia to be honest, right nostalgia is how that made us feel back in the day.

2: Right, right.

The Iron Fist: Trap music did 109,000 copies.

3eezy Bih: Would it really, can TI really just lose off one nigga going off one album?

The Iron Fist: If they go back and forth, 50 got enough, 50 got enough, he got, huh, go ahead.

Big Darrell: It depends on how you put it

3eezy Bih: No, hold up. So, so time out T-Wheels. He got enough, but I'm saying he's, he's gonna have to play out of 20 songs, out of 20 songs.

Big Darrell: He ain't gonna do one album though, 50 gonna do other songs.

The Iron Fist: He can, he, 50 can do it. I didn't think so at first, but I think he can now.

3eezy Bih: I'm not saying he can't do it to you. Hold on. Let me think which I'm not saying he can't do it. I'm not saying he don't deserve to be in the topic with TI. I'm saying for us as a as a audience. Where does the surprise element come when you know at least 80 % of his songs gonna have to come from get rich or die trying and gonna have to.

Big Darrell: I don't think 80 % of them got it, got to.

The Iron Fist: I don't think 80 % could come from that.

Phone Home: I disagree with that thing.

3eezy Bih: I mean, see, when we did our shit, half of it came from get Richard Dodge Ryan.

The Iron Fist: I don't think 80 % could come, he got me.

Big Darrell: We were just doing that, but he got shit like whoop your head, window shopper, candy shop. Like he got different albums. I get money. He probably gonna play that weak ass shit too. Yep, that shit hard. We'll be popping that. I'll teach you how to.

Phone Home: That was just a generic, I don't know.

2: Yeah, hate I love it.

The Iron Fist: He got stuff, man.

Phone Home: Yeah, and I teach you how to stunt. ⁓

3eezy Bih: I said, no, no, no, no, to win. I said to win.

The Iron Fist: Jinnah Trapani, Jinnah Funkin' and Maybach Beans!

3eezy Bih: Time out time out though to win to win most of this shit gonna have to come from get rid of that's right to win it cuz cuz bro you just named the songs I can name a t.i song that gonna kill that you talking about candy shop play one whatever you like like come on bro I said to win I didn't say you didn't like candy shop bro but it's not be whatever you like

Phone Home: I'm gonna get to know you. I disagree with that.

The Iron Fist: I disagree with that, I honestly do.

Phone Home: Well, that's not, nah, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying, I'm I'm 50 got, he got 20, but I think regardless if it comes from get Richard diatron or whatever the case may be, I just think tip go room.

Big Darrell: I don't know if it gonna be candy shop to me. I like candy shop.

The Iron Fist: don't like candy shop though, I've never been a fan of candy shop.

Big Darrell: He got it.

3eezy Bih: To win, he gonna at least have to play eight to nine get Richard DiTrain.

Phone Home: I don't think he can win regardless. don't think he can. Yeah, I don't think he can win regardless.

3eezy Bih: Okay, I feel that. That's what I'm saying. But to win, to even have a chance, he gonna have to play eight to nine songs from Get Rich or Die Tryin', Especially depending on how T.I. play his songs. I mean, you talking about Candy Shop, you talking about Candy Shop, he better not start with that shit, because I'm gonna play whatever you like. You play Candy Shop. You play Candy Shop, I'm gonna play Live Your Life. Like, what the fuck?

The Iron Fist: I would say don't even bring that into verses to me.

Big Darrell: But I think candy shop can beat whatever you like.

3eezy Bih: Now, don't get me wrong, he got some other shit, cause he got the song with Chris Brown, I'm the man. But he gonna have to play the power shit. Now that's the man go crazy.

The Iron Fist: forgot about that, I f-

Phone Home: Well, let's kind of get back on topic though. How did y'all feel about Damani and King and like, yeah, it was. We jumped back to two weeks, three weeks ago. But ⁓ how did y'all feel about them jumping into the beef and like, would y'all let y'all kids do some shit like that?

3eezy Bih: That was the topic, wasn't it? ⁓

2: Thanks.

3eezy Bih: See, they rap.

The Iron Fist: I definitely would want my son to be involved in like that. ⁓ But, you know, as far as what I observe, I think Damani getting some shine off of it simply because people really, like I heard somebody say like, Damani can be like another like Kendrick or Cole type. And I was like, wow, like people, and it wasn't just like one person saying it, like people, he's getting a look, you know what I'm saying? So if he could just continue.

Big Darrell: people and it wasn't just like one person saying it.

The Iron Fist: This could be his springboard to his career, you know what saying? Because sometimes it's hard to get out of a great man's shadow and that great man is they dad, you know what I'm saying? ⁓ Now King so much, ⁓ and I'm not taking nothing from King, because you know, he's more, I don't even really like using the term YN, but he come with them type of games with the, you know, the Smokey, Miss Jackson and stuff like that. You know, I'm like, dang boy, these kids are like super disrespectful. ⁓ but you know, as far as like with the money, I think this is a way to like springboard and I'm not saying 50 wouldn't be in respect because I see how you looking deep, but, ⁓ no, no, but, ⁓ I think, I think this is a, if, the money can keep, can keep going, like I think he's getting some eyes put on him because like people are really like paying attention. They saying like, you know, the money really can wrap, you know I'm saying? And again, it's kind of hard to come.

3eezy Bih: Like, fire with fire.

2: I'm

The Iron Fist: come out of a shadow of a great man which is his dad and this is like people kind of like really giving him respect as his own person as his own you know artist standing on his own too and he really getting busy like me and ⁓ Jay G me and Jay G was kind of we had like a brief discussion and Jay G was telling me how you know he had been on him for you know a little while now but man people really kind of paying attention to the money if he can just get some hits under his belt probably not even hits maybe even a solid mixtape or album He can really shake the room, you know what I'm

Phone Home: Well, let's not let's not let's not get it twisted now like the money he he had he had some motion before this situation popped off now. Yeah, he has some real motion.

The Iron Fist: Right, right. But he's getting more, I think he's getting more eyes because me personally, and I hate to say that, but again, stepping out of a great man's shoes, I knew Damani was getting busy, but I was like, it wasn't enough for me to pay attention to him because I was so, you know, I'm such a fan of his dad, you know what I'm saying? But now, you know, it just make me really pay attention to, you know, more of what he got going on. Yeah. I mean, people on TikTok,

2: Yeah.

Phone Home: 840. 840.

The Iron Fist: People on TikTok like really talking about Damani.

3eezy Bih: I got laws on that one.

Phone Home: I say, I say, A40.

2: I think so too, I think.

3eezy Bih: And who for? Who's for?

The Iron Fist: I mean, ay, ay, ay, let me just say this. It's impressive when a, it's impressive when you, nah, I'm 39, you know, I'll be 39. I'm still, yeah, I'm pushing 40.

3eezy Bih: Do you wanna hit the floor?

Phone Home: nigga really about to hit the phone in April, ain't you? I'm 39.

3eezy Bih: That niggas ain't know. That niggas been pulled down here ball on time.

2: Thanks.

The Iron Fist: I'm 30. Hey, hey man, I'm gonna tell you like like like my elders used to tell me man You better hope you live to be this age. You feel me like that's my elders used to tell me That's what I this what I say now. I Look for real man, cuz people ain't making it like that for real

Phone Home: I think I've been waiting to get that ball

The Iron Fist: real man niggas my age be having health problems for real like this is real you know I'm saying like like this is You start feeling away when you start seeing your peers like ⁓ my goodness like what's going on you feel me? So like just like my elders just tell me you better hope you live to be this age But you know it's a blessing to be ⁓

Phone Home: ⁓ that's true.

3eezy Bih: Nah, ATW is a thing. Man, we the same age now. When we was in college, I used to be like, damn, see, we old, but man, I'm about to be 35. We.

The Iron Fist: Hey, that's the thing though, even when you like in your early 20s, you see somebody like, I remember when I was 22 years old, before I was married, I was dating this girl that was 28 and we used to refer to her as the old chick, you know what I'm saying? She was like 28, you know what I'm saying? So like, that's just how it is, you know what I'm saying? But man, like it's a-

3eezy Bih: Thanks. Hey, I built my gang with niggas that is 20. I'm on a game with a nigga that's 29. I'm gonna call me Oh

The Iron Fist: Yay. Yeah, yeah.

2: You

Phone Home: Hey, that nigga dab, that nigga dab, we tryna do that shit, dude. That nigga dab, we tryna do it.

2: I ⁓

3eezy Bih: That nigga cracking up, he like, man, I don't know what y'all talking about. Hey, this is the first time Darryl requires. Y'all niggas don't got a home with this, you old fellas.

The Iron Fist: Remember he said what he said? Y'all like them dead ramps. ⁓

2: You

The Iron Fist: Look, hey with smooth. Hey, we said y'all like them dad raps. I was like man. He might be talking about me, you know What was we talking about what rapper was we talking about that day we was talking about baby king we saw about baby key Hey, but I think that kind of do play a role into it though because it not even trying to be funny because

3eezy Bih: I fuck you, there.

Phone Home: We're talking about Baby King.

3eezy Bih: I but not.

The Iron Fist: When you were a little older, and I had to kind of get out of that a little bit because I was more stuck on traditional rap, just rhythm, people who do rhythmic speaking. I remember when I first started hearing people kind of do that little melodic style, I was like, man, that ain't rap. You know what I'm saying? I wasn't really willing to accept how things are evolving. And I had to realize, man, things don't stay the same. You kind of like... You kinda be stuck in your old ways if you just be like man Wu-Tang Clan this is standard for classic rap and that was just for that time period and then I don't make it no worse because I'm like a I feel like I'm like somewhat of a historian I watch a lot of rap documentaries I'm always bringing up Rakim and stuff like that I'm like yeah I gotta stop doing that you know what mean? Cause I really be sounding like you know like a old like a old old old head but man that is that is the um

3eezy Bih: basketball players do their shit and ain't no other one.

The Iron Fist: That is the, know, as you grow older, you kinda do slip into like what you grew up on. Like, and then you almost like don't wanna get nobody else a chance because of, you know, how music made you feel when you was a certain age. So ⁓ I'm glad that I was able to catch that. And now I think I'm more open to, you know, newer styles and stuff like that. But that's a real thing, I think. Like, especially people before me, you probably can't convince. Man, it's so funny. I just got through hearing ⁓ Joe Budden talk about how Lil Yachty, they said that he was thinking like Rapper's Delight was just wack. You know what I'm saying? When they was talking about the hip, the hop, the hippie, the hip. And I can understand why Yachty feels like that. You know what I'm saying? But it comes off disrespectful to our elders, to people who grew up with that. But I understand his fight because... Back then, it was so simple. even if you look at, go back and study, or not even, get off rap for a second, go back and look at dunk contests and how niggas was dunking back then compared to now. You'd be like, man, them boys trash. You know what saying?

Phone Home: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: That's why I don't never, that's why I don't never. I don't like comparing errors because everything will be better than yeah. I know I the way I say who's the best or whatever out of that is I say who dominated their error more. That's how I always say who's better far as rap far as as far as rap far as sports all that because everybody gonna be just as good to be honest. Everybody gonna be just as good as Jordan quote-unquote because you're gonna work to get Jordan and everybody else did the same thing. Now. It's about who overcame

The Iron Fist: You can't. You can't. You can't.

3eezy Bih: in that era. So I always, I always say who's better in that era. And then I compare who's when I'm talking about the best, I say, well, he did it better in this era. Cause I mean, you can get a guy that's like the 10th man. That's probably just as good as the starter back in the day because see, you know, it's evolution. But back to this, the money point, I don't see how y'all feel like somebody take off. I mean,

The Iron Fist: Fair. Mm-hmm.

3eezy Bih: I mean, now we have another point that wanted it but the question was how do we feel was it disrespectful? What was the question?

Phone Home: I was just saying, you feel about them jumping in?

The Iron Fist: He was just asking how you feel about the money, you know, or do... Yeah.

3eezy Bih: I feel like once you said something about my mama, I feel like it's, ain't studying with that. It's like, he talking about my mama. You know what saying?

The Iron Fist: But also, will say, let me get this off real quick. People always, cause they, talk about like, man, maybe, cause I hear some people get pushbacks, say, man, Tia should have had his kids. And then y'all also got real like these kids, these kids, they're grown. These, these, they're, you know what saying? And so you get to a point, you get to a point where, you know, your, your mom, when you little, your mom and dad, they try to, they try to defend you. They may even go to bat for you if somebody like trying to bully you or whatever the case may be. But then you get to a point.

3eezy Bih: That grown, that's what I'm saying.

The Iron Fist: where if somebody say I get out of line with your mama, at some point you bigger than your mama, you taller than your mama, and it's like if somebody your age disrespects, or even an elder, they disrespect your mama, you gonna step up, you know what saying? So I can kinda see, it's like, and it almost can be seen as a gift and a curse, because I think it's also, in one part, I think it's beautiful because, you get to see the unity, camaraderie, know, a family sticking together and...

3eezy Bih: I ain't fuck no, fuck that my bad. Now I'm about to you back off. I ain't said nothing that shit. That unity, everybody been talking about, yeah, that's how men step, they got together. I ain't, fuck all that nigga. At the end of the day, I don't care if I hated my daddy, you said something about my mama.

The Iron Fist: Go ahead.

3eezy Bih: and you went that far. We can, there ain't no unity. Look, we got the same coming goal. You talked about my mama, nigga. And it was all cool when you had beef with my daddy. That's y'all stuff, but leave my mama about it. She ain't said nothing to you. She ain't said nothing about you. Leave her alone. Now when you say something, fuck that. Cause now that's what saying. That's what I'm saying. I don't think it could be no versus because you know, once you talk about nigga wife, it's like you talking about

The Iron Fist: These people grown man. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

3eezy Bih: of a niggas prized possession and before so you talking about two people prized possession one nigga wife right and then next before you know you before you have your wife you the first prized possession was your mama so both everybody got ties and nigga you talking about the same woman so shit like nigga I ain't fuck all that unity shit we got the same enemy so nigga you talking about my wife he talking about your mama so it's just like shit it's a go so I'm gonna talk about your dead mama

The Iron Fist: Yeah. Yeah.

Phone Home: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: You muted there, I can't hear you.

Big Darrell: I still think it's a good setup for the verses. still think, cause 50 Cent had to say, I talked about they mama. So I still think it's a good setup for the verses. Like if them niggas was to say, oh, we having the verses, I think it'd be a good, promo. Whoever ran the verses, I guarantee you they ain't talked with them right now.

Phone Home: you

3eezy Bih: If they do verses, I promise I ain't gonna give a fuck.

Big Darrell: T.I. would do it. He will do it. It's 50 cent that they gotta persuade.

2: You

The Iron Fist: He say he wouldn't though now.

3eezy Bih: Now I'm saying if they ain't a lot if they do a versus now I ain't gonna say all respect but some of my shit gone from TI. I ain't gonna lie to you. Cause if he did that gimmickily if that's a word. All my stuff ain't there for TI. Cause my respect for TI.

Big Darrell: Why?

Phone Home: I feel you. Yeah, I don't think I don't think tip gonna do it though. Yeah, I don't think.

The Iron Fist: I know it ain't no gimmick. Timothee I don't do gimmicks.

3eezy Bih: That's what I'm saying. So the fact that he was in there, know, TI my third favorite rapper ever. think let's see Ludacris, T-I-G-E-Z. So that four, right? Them four of my era. I hope even if he do it, I hope he don't.

Big Darrell: I think T.I. would do it. It just depend on how 50 cent is.

The Iron Fist: He said he don't respect 50 no more to even be on the same stage with him though.

3eezy Bih: That's why I say I hope he don't. I hope he don't. I hope he don't.

Big Darrell: But if they can come to some sort of like, like 50 say, was wrong for posting that or some shit, or they can talk behind the I think it could be done. Cause it's just like with Boosie and TI, like shit, I ain't think Boosie would be cool with TI no more. And Kaboose, Kaboose a nigga that like, you feel me? You know how Boosie feel, huh?

The Iron Fist: I think it's too far gone.

Phone Home: Yeah, please.

3eezy Bih: I don't think it was on the same level, no. It wasn't on the same level though. Was it on the same level?

Big Darrell: Shit, Taboose it was like it was by T.I. Snitching.

The Iron Fist: Heck no!

3eezy Bih: Yeah, that's snitching. I'm talking about wife and mama, Like anybody can call me a snitch. That nigga too can call me a snitch. don't give a fuck about this. it's like if you say, nigga say something about your wife, man.

Big Darrell: But bro, but think about this. This nigga Birdman don't fuck with his brother to this day. But hold on, ding, ding, ding. This nigga Birdman don't fuck with his brother to this day, cause the nigga told on the day. The nigga still don't acknowledge his brother.

2: Hehehehehe

The Iron Fist: Yeah, hey, what you say? What you say? serious.

3eezy Bih: but that, I get that, but that ain't nothing like when you talk about a nigga's wife though, Darryl.

Phone Home: That's crazy. You don't mute, Bill. You don't mute, Bill.

Big Darrell: But that's just janking though, bro. Niggas be janking all the time here. That ain't.

3eezy Bih: No, ain't the same as wife shit.

Eric: Birdman

Big Darrell: think I say that because that just words a nigga can squash words if gz and ti can get on the stage and a nigga didn't die and And nigga almost lost his life I mean gucci if gz and gucci can get on the stage ti and can get on stage them niggas

The Iron Fist: Hey, boys done grew up different though, man.

3eezy Bih: You mean Gucci? No, I'm not saying it can't happen. I'm not disagreeing with you that it can't happen. I just say I think it's long far from happening because, and me personally, I wouldn't even respect T.I. as much as I do now if he was to do that because he has, his whole persona, his whole characteristic has been family no matter what. So to see him take a fall on that for the cash flow.

2: I feel it.

The Iron Fist: I so too.

3eezy Bih: or for the respect of the album or his catalog, I ain't gonna lie to you. I would kind of lose respect on that a little bit because he died by his for tiny, no matter what she looked like, for what he put on. Now I don't know what he do behind the scenes. I'm talking about in front of us. It's like, hey, you leave that one alone. Like you can talk about this, this, this and that, but you don't mess with that one. He been on that for years. So to see him fall off that track for like what Smoot said, his legacy of the album and for cash flow I kind of be like damn tip I mean see you know I'm cool with you on the comedy trip but that ⁓ no

Big Darrell: What you think, too?

2: I just don't see it bro. I don't see it. I think it's just I don't it happened by now He don't he don't you don't need

Phone Home: Me neither.

The Iron Fist: Right.

Big Darrell: That's what it is. I think it's 50 had to take it that far like why you took it that far? Just cuz nigga say he wanna he think it's catalog of filled to he should he could have just said nah nigga You ain't fucking with me and been on by his way. Why the nigga gotta put his wife up there and shit That's kind of weird, but see that's how 50 cent play

The Iron Fist: Did you not?

3eezy Bih: a little bear up? You talking like baby? ⁓

The Iron Fist: 50 did fit but if y'all remember the first time 50 somewhat kind of shunned them back then when when when what's the name brought it up because You know this this ain't the first well I'm sure y'all know because y'all follow it just like me You know or see it just like me at least not necessarily even got to follow it like ⁓ like a while ago like I remember a couple years ago tip had he had jumped out there was you know mentioned the verses and then I remember like If I remember correctly, ⁓ 50 had posted like the crime stoppers thing and I was like dang, you know what I mean? Like so it's like, it's almost like 50 never really respected him almost in a way. And y'all also, say that again.

2: They don't see them as a pair for real. They don't see them as a pair for real.

Phone Home: Yeah, that's what I was saying. ⁓

The Iron Fist: Yeah, that's what it's saying. And then not only that like if y'all go back I don't know if y'all heard that song you so tough He kind of he dissed he dissed TI like flat out on that song. You know what I'm saying? y'all might have to go listen to that to that song but um He basically was saying, you know I only like talking about street stuff cuz I'm not a street guy, but you know, he was basically, you know Bring it up that stuff about them guns and stuff. Now, it was a subliminal, but you already know he was talking about TI at that time. Like, it just always seemed like he just never really... I mean, they may have been cool on, you know, just like shaking hands or whatever, but you know, man, it just really don't seem like 50 ever really, really messed with TI for real. You know what I'm saying? Like, and to me, it was obvious from the beginning to me.

3eezy Bih: I feel like he on that hair right now. ⁓

2: Yeah, I know he probably feed the pro like man. Why you keep bringing this up though? I'm not getting no stay with you, bro

The Iron Fist: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, 50 on that type of time with everybody though. He on a different type of time. That's why, so that's my shit with T.I. Like that's the same thing he was doing with the trap music. You don't really hear Jeezy coming back out saying, hey man, I started, like he be the one on that terror. And not, I mean, not the son T.I., but he care about...

Phone Home: Yeah, yeah.

3eezy Bih: Your boy Smooth made a great point. It seemed like he want that legacy, like he's missing something. And I don't know dude from Adam's Cat other than his music career, but for somebody of his age, it is kind of crazy. Like, who cares you start a trap music? I think you'd get enough respect as as like, you know, you the guy, but they gave it to Jeezy. hey man.

The Iron Fist: think, I think, I could be wrong, but I personally think, ⁓ to me, this is just my opinion, think T.I. should be seen as Rap Royalty. I done said that many a times. But not to everybody though. Not to everybody. Not to everybody. He should be seen as that.

3eezy Bih: I he is. but to his own doing though.

Big Darrell: I agree not to everybody and he I think people in Atlanta put Jeezy over TI

3eezy Bih: But he did like Smooth used to say about Ludacris, he did it to himself. T.I. wanted to go do comedy. He tried to get his image back right from the jail. He did that to yourself. Like you can tell that he doing it now, cause he cut his hair and he trying to get that image back. Like, and I get it, I get it, but sometimes you just gotta stick with what you dealt bro. It ain't what it is now.

Phone Home: Yeah, it's cool. It's cool.

The Iron Fist: He doing his thing right now though, nobody can't take that from him.

Phone Home: Yeah, and I think that's kind of what 50 on too. He just like, nigga, I don't need music. I don't gotta do that. Well, he did make a diss track, that shit was trash.

3eezy Bih: I don't need music. I ain't making no diss tracks bro. You you look, yeah it trash, he, his diss track is the reason he shoulda, he did write about thinking music was below him. ⁓

The Iron Fist: Yeah, but let's see. I actually thought that too

2: Yeah.

Big Darrell: That shit was ass.

The Iron Fist: actually thought that too but I think it has a bigger long term effect you know what saying because and the reason why I say this is because if you even if it's that one little line if we hear that line week after week on these power shows ⁓ if we hear it week after week after week and more than likely let's just say year after year like just like if you go back to this is a bitch a big rich a big rich town the one that him and Joe did everybody know that song

Phone Home: That's what the fuck Greg should have did.

2: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: So if you play in this for years and years and years at a time, and it's like after so long, if you probably ain't dropping something similar to what Kendrick did, it kinda comes and goes. And I'm not trying to take nothing from TI, but I don't think those, those disc records, again, TI's my boy, but I don't think those disc records are gonna stick like that. Versus, you hear that little line, about you know what he said week after week it has like a long term sting you get stuck in people minds and you see what I'm saying like because it's a part of a thing it's a part of a show it's a part of a theme so people gonna say he won just off that because he got a he could he got a bigger audience to you know probably even think like ⁓ who is he talking about you get what I'm saying

3eezy Bih: Who do they say they think won?

Big Darrell: No, no 50 cent did he put a little line in one of them shows? One of the beginning of the show song but but but I think we talking about the one he dropped with max b No, no, no, no, no, no, he dropped a different one he dropped another one after that willio

Phone Home: Yeah, I think we kind of running this topic into the ground.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Okay, okay, okay, okay, well I missed that then.

3eezy Bih: I mean, far as the beef one, think T.I. ⁓

Phone Home: Yeah, man, let's move to this king of the hill, man. Because y'all boy going way off.

Big Darrell: Ha ha ha!

Phone Home: Alright, so we're gonna do it like this. We're gonna do it like this. We're gonna let ⁓ Dink you gonna go first, Bip second, Two third, Willie your fourth, Darryl fifth. Cool. So Dink first, Biff second, Two third, Willie a fourth, Dair fifth. And you can say like a little opinion, but like let's just try to keep it smooth Dink.

3eezy Bih: Yeah. Damn, you'll be in there.

Phone Home: You!

Big Darrell: It be you, Dink.

3eezy Bih: We'll talk for 15 minutes. Hey, that nigga pulled in both times.

2: I need this.

Phone Home: Alright man, round one. Dink. Nothing was the same, more life.

3eezy Bih: Come on bro, next, go Bill, nothing was zany.

Phone Home: Damn, D.

3eezy Bih: I'm going with nothing. I mean, I think that was easy. Go ahead. That's why I said bill. I'm going with more. Nothing was the same. I just told you.

Phone Home: man, let's start over.

Big Darrell: But he wanna clip it though. He wanna clip it, Bill.

Phone Home: Well, god damn, man!

2: I need to find a clue. ⁓

3eezy Bih: Oh shit man, I get confused. I didn't be thinking we just having a conversation. I forgot we buy click. Let's go bro. Go, that's a question.

Eric: you

The Iron Fist: you

Phone Home: Round one, nothing was the same more life.

3eezy Bih: I'ma go with nothing was the same, man. Yeah, I'm going to nutmeg this thing.

Eric: Yeah.

Phone Home: Nothing was the same versus more like.

3eezy Bih: Another words design.

Phone Home: I built nothing was the same, our scorpion.

Eric: Man, I got to go with Scorpion.

Phone Home: All right, two, scorpion or so far gone.

2: so far gone.

Phone Home: Willio, so far gone, or her loss?

The Iron Fist: So Fargo.

Phone Home: Daryl, so far gone, take care.

Big Darrell: So far gone, yeah.

Phone Home: Dink, so far gone or if you're reading this too late.

3eezy Bih: I go.

Phone Home: Bill, the final one. Views are so far gone.

Eric: views.

2: Tooth.

3eezy Bih: That nigga said a weird man. That nigga said a weird man. don't buy it.

Eric: You

Big Darrell: That's good way to get a point across. But now, now, now, ask, Bill Views versus Scorpion.

Eric: Scorpion.

Phone Home: Well, the way King of the Hill work is like, just, so we already, that's enough for the clip right there. But the way it work is like, you just like, it ain't necessarily about which one the best, but it's like what you put it up against. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

3eezy Bih: Yeah. Yeah.

Big Darrell: ⁓ okay, okay, okay. I knew he was gonna pick Scorpion over views.

Phone Home: Yeah, I knew that too.

3eezy Bih: Hey, you know what would have been nice though, too smooth? You could do this for something else. Like that, that, ⁓ keep fold cut three. You could have did that and that shit too. That shit would have been smooth.

Phone Home: What up? Mm-hmm. Yeah, nah.

Eric: I don't... My bad.

Big Darrell: So,

Eric: Yeah. Yeah.

Big Darrell: Drake, Drake top albums, his top four.

Phone Home: Yeah, but just like, just to circle back to my point on all of that, I think Drake kinda, I don't even really think he care about that topic no more. Cause if you look at the way his albums are constructed, mean, like it's damn near 22 songs on every album. know what saying? 22, 24 songs on every album. And if you condensed that, you could get the classic that you looking for. You know what I'm saying?

Eric: Yeah.

2: That's it.

Big Darrell: You'll hear blood and shit. Facts. ⁓

Phone Home: I don't think he care about that. then we also, I know me, Bill Pinto, we always talk about like, he got so many Lucy's, if he add them to a album that niggas think should be a classic, then you have your classic. Like I always say, like Scorpion to me would be a classic if he just put diplomatic community on

Eric: Easy.

Big Darrell: Right. And then you can also argue Drake has the most hits on any album, right? Drake has the most albums that has the most songs that are hits. Like niggas don't drop albums like a classic hip hop album might not necessarily have hits on that bitch, but Drake albums have the most hits. Like if you got 24 songs, damn, then 15 of them bitches gonna be hits.

The Iron Fist: And if they not hits, he got bangers on them. Like pound cake. I wouldn't say that ain't a hit, but it's something you gotta listen to. Right, and that's really hard to do, really.

Big Darrell: You see what I'm saying? So niggas don't make albums like that though.

Phone Home: Yeah. Yeah.

Eric: Drake is the most quoted philosopher in the last century. Like, man to man, if you just type in his lyrics and quotes on Instagram, bro, you're gonna see so many posts just off his lyrics. Like that has to account for something. That's a stat that doesn't show up on the stat sheet, but it says a lot. It says a lot because his lyrics are making people really feel something. And they move.

2: Let's go.

3eezy Bih: disagree with you on that though.

Big Darrell: And then, well, why you say that then?

3eezy Bih: ⁓ I'm only reason this is green cause we know we may be on two different times. I don't know though. I would say Jay Z project like just off 99 problem, but a bitch ain't one gonna get more. but it's coming. I know. Yeah, but like, like, like another philosopher's move ain't about who said it first. It's about who you know what saying?

The Iron Fist: But that came from Ice-T though, he didn't make that up.

Phone Home: But that don't help your point because Drake said that.

The Iron Fist: Cause I knew where it came from.

3eezy Bih: I mean, but yeah, when you told me that, yeah, that's true. Good point, good point, good point. Good point, good points, man. But no, I still believe, I believe I would have to say Jay-Z.

2: What?

Eric: I was just trying to say that.

3eezy Bih: I had to say Jay-Z before that. ⁓

Phone Home: Uh huh. Hey man, hey. Hey man, we got episode 50 next week, man. What should we do, bro? I know, that's what I'm saying. Like, what should we do? Like, what, what, what? Oh, you on mute, Dink. I mean, I dare.

3eezy Bih: See you party. See ya.

Eric: ⁓ no, that's dope though.

The Iron Fist: Classic Biggie song.

Big Darrell: well we should come with a theme.

Phone Home: That's what I'm saying. We topping it up now.

Eric: You gotta be kidding me.

3eezy Bih: You know what I mean, it's not.

Big Darrell: Damn, I been on mute this whole time?

Phone Home: Now, for like maybe like a minute or so.

3eezy Bih: Speed and Sight.

Big Darrell: I wanted to ask, I wanna ask, do y'all remember how classic albums used to be dropped?

Phone Home: yeah, you was on me, we mute you again. So what y'all boy wanna do for episode 50? ⁓

3eezy Bih: Hey, Rashad McKenzie's out the mud.

Phone Home: You

Big Darrell: I Asked that I asked that cuz that's a good that's a good window. Yeah, I remember how album used to roll out, right? How many singles used to be on the album? Right, right and everything else was basically like fillers of however nigga felt how his album one to go

3eezy Bih: Thanks

Phone Home: Ha ha ha ha Yo.

3eezy Bih: me. Like three.

The Iron Fist: Nigga Michael has six.

3eezy Bih: Nigga that's what I was telling you earlier Darren, that's why I said it was considered like classic because that's why I said Hurricane Chris but nigga was laughing at me but he arguably has a classic album. He arguably has a classic album.

2: Three twists.

Big Darrell: I that still ain't no point right there. Hurricane Chris ain't got nothing, motherfucker.

Phone Home: That's crazy, that's crazy though. That's crazy.

The Iron Fist: Hey, I'm gonna say this and I know this is kind of off the topic but it's on the topic. That Power of the Dollar, and I hate that I keep bringing up 50 because I actually like T.I. way more than 50. That Power of the Dollar album is, it could probably go against one of T.I. albums too. If y'all ever listen to that Power of the Dollar album that 50 came out with, they got that.

Phone Home: Nah, them boys are good. They hold that album in high regards up there.

The Iron Fist: Man, he wasn't playing around on that. He wasn't messing around on that. And it didn't even drop officially because he got shot and you know, all that other stuff. But man, I really hate I keep breaking to a 50 because I really sound like I'm more of a 50 fan.

3eezy Bih: ⁓ you're talking about his first one? Yeah, they go crazy.

Eric: Not really it's no topic cuz that's that gonna be the thing for next episode it's gonna be a 50 cent themed episode

The Iron Fist: Man.

Big Darrell: Y'all ain't got no bulletproof vest ain't nobody got no bulletproof vest

2: You

The Iron Fist: It might need to be done for real.

3eezy Bih: I ain't

Eric: episode 2 I I found one in a durag in a durag yeah

3eezy Bih: I gotta wait, I gotta wait, bitch.

2: See you next time, man.

The Iron Fist: Ay, and I had the I had the G-Unit sneakers? Ay, look.

2: Who gonna wear the wife beetle?

The Iron Fist: I had every G unit shoot at dropped

Eric: It's Z-Rafa way.

Big Darrell: With the little shoulders too. The little motherfucking shoulder straps.

Eric: Yeah, yeah. Nah, that's...

Phone Home: Nah, shit. mean, if y'all boy want to do a 50 Cent thing episode, shit, let's do it.

Eric: Hahaha

Big Darrell: G unit apparel, Ain't nobody got no G unit Reebok no more.

3eezy Bih: Nah, I- I will-

The Iron Fist: Power phone home.

3eezy Bih: Nah, I would, with my nigga and beef with TI right now, I ain't trying to do that though. But I you just wanna be 50 cent in today, and back in the day.

2: You

The Iron Fist: Nah, that's too much. I had every G unit shoe that dropped. I remember that. Man, I wasn't messing around with them G unit shoes back then, Boy, I had them hugs. Hey, but you know what? What was it about 50? When I sit back and think though, I can't really put a finger on what was it that just made him so hot like that because it's...

Big Darrell: Them bitches was kind of clean when they had the little suede at the toe box with the three little colors.

3eezy Bih: I ain't rock no G-Unit. ⁓

Eric: Thank you.

3eezy Bih: I ain't been riding no G in a week.

Eric: These things are plenty anywhere.

3eezy Bih: I didn't rock no D on this. I like the 50 cent but I'm not gonna no D. Now who that different from Juve, boy?

2: I got a G in the hoodies.

Big Darrell: Them G-Units was straight, bro. I ain't gonna lie to you.

Phone Home: He got shot in arm!

Big Darrell: The storyline, the storyline, the nigga got shot. You ain't never heard a nigga got shot nine times in a lift. Like, hey, nigga got nine lives and the nigga came back for 10. Shit.

3eezy Bih: And you guys shot in face, what you mean?

2: Literally guy, what was that?

The Iron Fist: Yeah. Yeah, he's like a super thug.

3eezy Bih: And then did you not hear, did you not see the movie? And then did you not hear the album? Shit. ⁓ my God.

Phone Home: Right.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, you're right, you're right, you're

Big Darrell: And then, then, and then, but then think about this, when the time 50 Cent came out, it was all about cosign. Nigga had Eminem cosign him to Dr. Drake. It don't get no bigger than that. And it's just like Drake had Lil Wayne. It was, was at the time. Like that's the biggest thing, the cosign.

The Iron Fist: and Dr. Dre. Yeah, you right. You right.

Phone Home: Yeah, that's true.

3eezy Bih: Hey, we didn't make the ⁓ when we said North.

The Iron Fist: Yeah. That boy had a wave like no other, man. He really did.

Big Darrell: And then you got Eminem pushing you and Dr. Dre? That's crazy.

The Iron Fist: Hold on. Hold on. Let's talk about it like with Eminem his fan base alone could just take you to the top and if you You got his folks looking at you that makes sense That may and the music was high and you know I'm saying Man, yeah. Yeah, that was just a perfect storm right there

Eric: more so.

3eezy Bih: Fuck out of here, we're getting rid of the nationality.

Big Darrell: Say the aftermath.

3eezy Bih: At the end of the day, no matter who pushing you, you got the other sheets. You got the other sheets. Come on.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he had it. He definitely had it. He definitely had it.

Big Darrell: Yeah, yeah, but I disagree with that. Cause I feel like if who you with, they can make you have some good shit. They can make you have some good shit.

The Iron Fist: Why say that?

Phone Home: I mean, I think, no, but look, though, I think they are kind of, it kind of, it kind of do make sense because we've seen him talking about how 50 kind of fell off after he kind of separated himself from Eminem and Dr. Dre. So it kind of makes sense.

3eezy Bih: Nah, people ain't killing you, the people ain't killing you,

Big Darrell: Andre!

The Iron Fist: I don't necessarily think the music got wet. I don't necessarily think that. Cause Ayo Technology, those songs were...

Big Darrell: Well, well, it clears fell off. We know you like 50, Willie, but it fell off.

Phone Home: He kind of but 50 cent cut he kind of left that he left that gangster he left all that gangsta shit. He left all them but it None of that shit was garbage, bro

3eezy Bih: Yeah, it was garbage. But to my point, man, hey, this is where Sean McCance is out the mud,

The Iron Fist: I think Ayo Technology was a song when he was falling off at that point.

Big Darrell: That was, your heart bitch as hell. But I like what Smoove's saying though. Smoove is right because Dr. Dre them gave 50 Cent a whole package deal. Like, the, Rich or Die Tryin' the bulletproof vest, the motherfuckin' album cover with like a gunshot in it. Like, it's a whole package with that nigga.

2: No, actually...

3eezy Bih: Right.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Phone Home: N***a had Eminem at the height of his career going crazy, going crazy on that song.

Big Darrell: Yep.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, yeah, yeah. All them boys really benefited off each other.

3eezy Bih: But I still prove my point though. I'm saying though, you still.

Phone Home: I don't want talk about a nigga proving his point where he be wrong.

3eezy Bih: ⁓ nigga, you proved my point nigga. Y'all naming all this shit. Y'all name all this shit. The music still got to be good at the end of the day. That's why I always tell y'all. Y'all keep talking.

The Iron Fist: Hehehehehe

Big Darrell: No we saying

The Iron Fist: Nah, that's a fag. That's a fag.

Big Darrell: Dr. Dre ain't like his music. Dr. Dre didn't like his music. Dr. Dre only signed 50 Cent because of Eminem.

The Iron Fist: For real? I didn't know that.

3eezy Bih: Nigga, TI didn't like 24s. I'm talking about if the people like your shit.

The Iron Fist: Hold hold on, say that again, Darryl, cause I didn't know that.

Big Darrell: Dr. Dre didn't want to 50 cent. That's why he had to be signed to Eminem. Eminem asked for that partnership deal and 50 cent was his first signee. Right, but so Eminem gave Dr. Dre that. Dr. Dre ain't like that nigga at first.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, I didn't know that, I didn't know that.

3eezy Bih: No, Dara. What I'm saying Dara, Dara. Dara. Darryl, what I'm saying is this. I ain't saying people can't fuck with you and that won't catapult you. But what I'm saying, at the end of the day, if people don't fuck with your music, they just don't fuck with your music.

Big Darrell: No, that's wrong, Dink. I'm saying this right here. If 50 Cent didn't have Dr. behind those albums, if Eminem didn't push for Dr. Dre...

3eezy Bih: How's it going?

Phone Home: You niggas on a XXL magazine together?

3eezy Bih: I didn't say that that don't catapult you. Yo, who you fuck with can catapult you. But I'm saying at the end of the day, people just like T. said T. I was saying that the more his first mistake was leaving his label. So I'm not saying that you get people to push you. I'm saying yo the people that push you if your shit ain't one reason they push you because you got some good shit. So what I'm saying is people still don't fuck with your music. It don't matter if somebody co-sign your shit or not and people don't fuck with it.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm. Hot. Yeah.

Big Darrell: No, no, no, but what I'm saying is is who you around can make your music better

3eezy Bih: Fuck with it.

Phone Home: ⁓ I disagree with that a little bit. Better. Yeah, I agree with that. agree with that. I agree with Darryl saying.

3eezy Bih: Yes!

The Iron Fist: Yeah. And I think.

3eezy Bih: You say what now? I'm saying what did he say? That's I'm asking.

Phone Home: Y'all agree with what Darrell's saying? He said you can have mid music. Your music can be mid. And as long as you got the look behind you, that can take you to the top. It ain't gotta be the greatest. That's what Darrell's saying.

Big Darrell: And then, and then if you got me, let's say for instance, let's say for instance, you take somebody who's average, right? And you put him in the gym with a motherfucker that's great, and sooner or later, nigga gonna become good. I ain't saying he gonna become great, a nigga gonna become good.

The Iron Fist: 50 was hot though, he had hot music.

3eezy Bih: And then people fucking to me.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, some of that star dust gonna rub off on you for sure.

Phone Home: And then, then, and hey, hold on, hold on. Ain't this, ain't this, ain't this sad? Hey, this gonna even help your point out even more, Ain't this, ain't this like ⁓ public knowledge that Eminem and Dr. Dre wrote some of them songs on Get Richer, Dr. R?

3eezy Bih: Yeah, that's true. I heard that before, but I'm I still don't understand. I still don't understand the point because I'm saying y'all saying y'all telling me because of his association.

The Iron Fist: I never heard that now. I never heard that. And I know Dr. Dre ain't writing nothing for nobody. He had to have writers.

3eezy Bih: Y'all telling me because of his association that he got better, which I don't disagree with. I don't disagree with it. But I'm saying though that because he you saying that they actually helped him make better music, right? That's what you're telling me, right? So I'm saying that's what happened. You talking about because of association, they put their powers to be whatever their talent into whatever he was making and they made his music that much better. So I'm saying the people obviously fuck with that music. That's what I'm trying to tell you.

Big Darrell: And the help. And the help.

The Iron Fist: That in the club?

Big Darrell: Yes.

3eezy Bih: Y'all you making it sound like like I understand that yes You got to have the industry or you having people with talent to make your shit better. I'm not I'm not disagreeing with it I'm not disagreeing with it. You're around That's why you associate with them people because they got other talents just like if I come to you you like ⁓ shit Yeah, you can do this miss miss master. That's why ti went to all for real for this last album So I'm not saying that yes, he's had to set up me his last single, huh?

Big Darrell: you ⁓

The Iron Fist: He been working with Pharrell since day one though. He been working with Pharrell since the first album.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, I know, but he said he went back to get for real because he wanted his own ⁓ in bed. So what I'm saying is that people still got the fuck with that music that they push it because if you ain't fucking with it.

Phone Home: I bet some niggas think I cake when I take eyes.

The Iron Fist: Yes, you know what I'm talking about.

Big Darrell: But but nobody really fucked with 50 cent like nobody really want to sign him out of New York and none of that shit them them niggas is like He really got black that that's what I'm saying niggas ain't fuck with him

The Iron Fist: 50 got black balled though. He got black balled and they, they, got, he just like, like,

Big Darrell: I wouldn't say his music was elite, like to where you had to just have his shit. When he got with Dre and they gave him that package and they sold that shit, that nigga became like...

Phone Home: I mean, I don't mean to interrupt you there, but it's kind of like, I kind of noticed that with Lil Baby. He done been selling us this story, bro. You know what saying? Like, he was a hustler, you know what saying? He was in and out of jail. He ain't even do music. When I go back and look at Lil Baby career, they was selling us that story.

The Iron Fist: still think his music was hot cause that powered Adalo some.

Big Darrell: Ooh, that's a perfect one.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Even Young Thug. Yeah, yeah.

Phone Home: They was like, they was pushing that story into our head. You know what saying? He ain't even know what you're talking. Like he just used to sell weed to young thug. Like bro, they been pushing us to believe like that little baby was just.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, that's a fact, that's a fact. That guy before the music. Yeah, cause they would talk about how like he was getting all these likes and stuff before he had a record out. You know what I'm That's what Young Thug said. You know what I'm saying?

Big Darrell: this figure, yeah. ⁓

Phone Home: YAY! YAY! Yeah. And even though that could be true, but it's still up to them to make it more believable than anything.

Big Darrell: And now, and now how did a nigga? And now watch this move. How did a nigga that never knew how to write a motherfucking song, Gunna used to write his shit till now this nigga got the best album of the year. This nigga ain't never wrote no fucking nigga used to have Gunna write his shit. He got with QC. Now this nigga like the best, greatest artist ever. And as soon as PNM sold that label, what a nigga shit at now. Nigga don't even talk about niggas. Lil Baby can't even sell 50,000 copies. And the nigga sold 250.

The Iron Fist: ⁓ I when baby said, when baby said, well, well, I'm to baby. People used to go lose their minds off that little line. You know what I'm

3eezy Bih: So so there so this is what I'm saying though, I So there this I Think we agree I think we're agreeing with disagreeing with the wrong shit because what y'all saying is basically It's basically I'm agreeing with y'all. No not to my point. I'm agreeing. I'm agreeing with a smooth. I buy you need a haircut boy

Phone Home: That's crazy. We proving your point. We proving your point.

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Phone Home: I do. I do.

The Iron Fist: He waitin' to get that off since he wanted to slide that in. Hey look, let me shut up, man.

3eezy Bih: I love them. Hey, I got some more in the back pocket. I got some more in the back pocket. No, but I think there, I think it's my fault. I don't know how I know how to articulate myself. I'm not, so I am agreeing with y'all. I'm just saying even though that they helped make the music, I'm saying people, no matter what you do, people gotta fuck with the music. That's all I'm saying like like, ⁓ Tia, I mean, baby music's fucked now. I don't think that's due all sudden to be because them, the shit just suck. But you can't lie and tell me they motion of scar was that was a good ass song.

The Iron Fist: I his music necessarily sucks.

Phone Home: But I think, I don't know, don't know, Dink. I think that's what I'm saying though. It's like, believe it or not, the narrative has changed around Lil Baby. The music might not even suck.

The Iron Fist: Yeah. Cause like people like that right on is clean to me. Like, and people was like, that came ago.

Big Darrell: never thought about that. A narrative with fucker artists every time, bro. It was a, I think one of y'all shared this or somebody shared this to me.

3eezy Bih: You say what now?

Phone Home: So look, like today, today academics just posted like Lil Baby in the damn, he in some type of studio with somebody and a nigga like grabbing Lil Baby ass. You know what saying? So it's just like, nigga, your music suck now. You know what I'm saying? Like.

Big Darrell: And then, did one of y'all post this? I seen this, it said artists used to have a mystique about them, right? To where, yeah, like artists used to have a mystique. And niggas don't got star power no more. Niggas show they self and reveal their self too much. And you be like, damn, this nigga green as fuck. He will mark Rubio in them and them niggas like treatin' him like a little hoe.

3eezy Bih: Well, if it's on the do matter though.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, I did that. That was me. That's why I Kendrick's star power is so strong. I think that's why Kendrick's so strong. Kendrick is so strong when it comes to that.

Phone Home: Yeah, but that's an even better point. That's an even better point because now you on a song saying, I'm in the hood selling bricks, hitting links, and then you got motherfucking Michael Rubin grabbing you from the back and choking the shit out of you.

Big Darrell: You look happy as a motherfucker like god damn. This is the best day of my life like

Phone Home: Yeah, yeah.

3eezy Bih: I mean, I think persona do not. I mean, think depend on how you come out and then betray you. Yeah.

The Iron Fist: But the narrative has always mattered though. That's why, you know, when 50 came out with Ja Rule, he just made it seem like, I I see this interview on 50, he did, it was so funny. He said, he said, man, I'm trying to quote what he said. He said, I'll tell you personally. He was talking about how Ja Rule was saying he's a murderer, but he was like, he's singing duets. And I was like, dang.

Big Darrell: He did make Jairoo seem like a hoe.

Phone Home: We about three more minutes, y'all.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, I seen it. I was like, oh.

The Iron Fist: So like 50 was more of the stronger, was becoming the more up and coming cool guy at that time. And people just kind of ran with that narrative. like, they was like, and people all of a sudden, all of a sudden, Ja Rule's not hot anymore. But Ja Rule had hits. Like, like all of a sudden, he's not hot anymore. Like all of a sudden.

Big Darrell: out.

3eezy Bih: Niggas say he a gangster, but he's niggas.

Big Darrell: And niggas started thinking about that shit like damn, Jaru ain't never had no gangster song. Nigga always have a love song with Shanti or somebody. And them bitches used to be bangles.

Eric: you

3eezy Bih: what he make it do with.

The Iron Fist: And that was not true by the raid. That was not true. To me he is, yeah definitely. Man, when he came out that song, I'ma ride to the end of the road baby. This life would drive me crazy. We getting high lately. Wonder when the Lord gonna take me. He killed that song. Like that was a real like.

Eric: Jalou, Jalou steal that nigga and that's a top. I will.

Big Darrell: Hey boy, that shit sound so dated.

3eezy Bih: Hey, there is a mechanic.

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The Iron Fist: Hey. See how y'all do it, but y'all making my point.

Phone Home: I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck what it is being able to recite a Ja Rule song

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Big Darrell: I was like, well that nearly, I was like, well that nearly.

3eezy Bih: Hey, this is out the moon with this job in the cage, man.

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Eric: That's not a single

3eezy Bih: and I'm all about it.

Phone Home: That's not a scene!

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The Iron Fist: It was a single! It was off the Light ⁓ Up soundtrack! That's what I'm trying to tell you! It came off the Light ⁓ Up soundtrack, the movie that Usher played in!

Eric: Thank

3eezy Bih: I know. If it ain't a shunty or me, hey, hey, smooth. If it ain't a shunty or on those rainy days with ⁓ Mary J. Blige, I ain't quoting no Johnny.

Eric: ⁓ no, I didn't know that.

Phone Home: EVEN WORSE!

2: I'm going to

Phone Home: right bro bro the only jaru singer i remember is his response to 50 cent when he ain't got a feature is clap back that's the only one

Big Darrell: That what I'm saying.

The Iron Fist: Man.

3eezy Bih: Man.

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The Iron Fist: Rue was hot. I had that Rue 336 album. That Rue 336 album is a classic!

3eezy Bih: Last night, last night, last night I remember

Eric: That was a lot of

3eezy Bih: Last thing I remember about Ja Rule, nigga lost his car to Paul Walker. That's the last thing I remember that That nigga lost his car, man.

Eric: How does Ja Rule and Tony Ayo end up on the same flight Like where are y'all going that's the same that y'all need to go like bro all these places in the world How do Ja Rule and Tony Ayo and Uncle Murda get on the same flight bro? You can't make this up, bro

Big Darrell: and right behind these motherfucking chudda like.

3eezy Bih: Also, crying. you

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3eezy Bih: Anything that happens, Bill.

The Iron Fist: They say 50 and Ja Rule ended up on the same flight. Yeah, now that's crazy. Now that's crazy. Now that seemed like somebody was being messy. That's what that seemed like. That's fact, that's a fact. Hey, Master P said two mountains may not meet, but two men will. I heard Master P say that.

Big Darrell: the even more crazy part, why were these niggas sitting right behind each other?

Phone Home: That's even waves. Yeah.

Eric: You feel me? I- WHAT?!

3eezy Bih: ⁓ Anything can happen bro. I mean hey, we got a nigga cold job room We got nigga rapping the whole jar with balls, bro. Anything can happen Hey Anything can fucking happen though. I ain't never heard of jarru fan like this never never a Jarru fan like this never

Eric: I'm No, no, no.

Phone Home: WHAT ARE WE WHERE DIDN'T WE'RE GOING TAKE ME?

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Big Darrell: and knowing that shit too like yeah nigga this was the hottest shit at the time boy.

2: The boy heard his point.

The Iron Fist: Say that again? Yeet. You never heard of what? Are you kidding?

Eric: The guy rules right now. The guy rules nice.

3eezy Bih: No, he was that dude for the singles, cap.

The Iron Fist: Man, that Rude 336 album.

3eezy Bih: See, that's what I'm talking about. No you don't, you good. No you don't, Darren, that one thing, hey look Darren, you ain't gotta fall into that peer pressure, bro. You good?

Big Darrell: go listen to that album now

The Iron Fist: Man, I was bumping that like, that album was clean.

Phone Home: No you don't, no you don't.

Eric: I have food. I have food. I have food. It is food. It is.

Phone Home: ⁓ Hey, hey bro. Hey, hey listen there. You don't gotta be a hip-hop and story like that, bro. Don't don't feel like you don't know your shit cuz we over here fucking quote AZ and John Rue. We don't give a fuck. ⁓

The Iron Fist: Ay, that rule 336!

3eezy Bih: the game.

Eric: Hey!

The Iron Fist: It is what it is. Hey listen, the fact of the matter is Ja Rule made hot albums. You know what

Eric: ⁓ man.

3eezy Bih: I'm a so saying they got a little more pulling on the tag here, man.

Eric: That was nice though.

Phone Home: Hey, nigga be trying to make us feel bad as shit.

Eric: Yeah, no, can't do the AZ. But Ja Rule, I can cry for that.

3eezy Bih: Hey, hey, hey.

The Iron Fist: That holla holla... Man, y'all trippin'. AZ was that deal, man. That Sugar Hill joint?

3eezy Bih: Am I, am I bored doing this shit?

Eric: Hey, I got a ride for him.

Phone Home: Yes indeed man, great episode man. Hey, we gonna come up with something next week man. Let's talk about it. All right, phone home. What's up bro?

The Iron Fist: Great episode.

Big Darrell: Yes sir. From home, baby.

Eric: Yeah, yeah Hey smooth, hey cuz

3eezy Bih: Reezer bitch.

The Iron Fist: Ayyy, water!

3eezy Bih: Nah, yeah, you did. I know you out there.

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Phone Home: Hey, hey, that nigga, hey, that nigga, you been thinking about that the whole episode?

3eezy Bih: Yeah.

Big Darrell: He was like, boy, clean that shit up, boy.

3eezy Bih: Hey, I had said this shit. Hey, hey, I had said this shit. was like, hey, baby, that nigga name Bill. That ain't the home phone home, bro.

2: That n***a un-media his mic to say it.

Eric: Please edit it out.

The Iron Fist: Look, I done did that before too. I done did that before too.

Big Darrell: A 61 year old bird man talking about some, what he said, is Charlamagne?

Eric: I ain't, I Birdman my dude, I ain't, fuck with Birdman.

2: So good.

Phone Home: All right, boy. home, Yep.

Eric: I had a pair of little ears and I was like...

Big Darrell: Yes, sir. ⁓

2: ⁓ huh.

The Iron Fist: What