Did We Really Land on the Moon? + Gucci Mane Snitched on Pooh Shiesty?

2: Hahahaha! ⁓

Eric: Thank you.

The Iron Fist: time.

Phone Home: But listen though, but listen though, but Eminem, I don't even think Eminem count because Eminem is a rapper. He likes stretch words. He don't go, he don't go, he don't go looking for big words. That nigga might take, that nigga might take ⁓ shit orange and rhyming with porn and like, he just like stretch shit. You know what saying? Like, yeah, and make two words sound like one word. That's how Eminem rap.

The Iron Fist: Orange. Orange and warrants.

2: The door is here. Yeah, yeah.

The Iron Fist: No man, I think it was the style.

Big: But, but see, I don't know if them niggas use the dictionary. I think that's just in the niggas vocabulary.

The Iron Fist: It could be possible, but I just think that's how they write.

Phone Home: Big Cripp, Big Cripp, he don't use no dictionary. know what I'm saying? Jeezy don't use no dictionary. TI, even TI talk differently from the way he rap. Like he be using all them big words. But he don't put that shit in no rap, man.

2: He ain't never say anything against his leader in a song, dude, he did.

Big: I definitely use the dictionary.

Phone Home: New York niggas got y'all niggas. Woo. And y'all wonder why them niggas wasn't on my list.

The Iron Fist: I don't know man.

Big: Nah bro, you know what I'm Kendrick Lamar, I be using big ass words.

2: Thanks.

Phone Home: You don't use no big ass words? Are you crazy?

Big: See you boo.

2: I don't think so kids are gonna sacrifice the song for

Big: That nigga, he might, he he might, he might not now, but that nigga use big words.

Eric: My simplest shit be more pivotal. Something, something. I'm just a nigga that's evil and spiritual. My simplest shit something.

Phone Home: I think.

The Iron Fist: Who said that? Why ain't a jiggle? ⁓

3eezy Bih: Thank you.

Phone Home: I think, I think, easy.

Eric: Kendrick.

3eezy Bih: You don't want it, nigga.

Phone Home: I think Kendrick put too many words in a line, but I don't think he used big words though.

Big: Bro, he definitely use big words, bro. I'm trying to, I'm gonna give a song with a nigga. It's not on every song, but that nigga, that nigga be using big ass words, Damn.

Phone Home: think he can get his point across without having to use them shits,

3eezy Bih: I'm gonna go dead, niggas, you go.

The Iron Fist: B-DI- ⁓

2: Right, yeah.

Big: But see, but see that's that down south, down south lovers like we like sent.

The Iron Fist: Hey to me it's impressive though. To me it makes sense when you think about it.

2: You

Big: But look that should be slime though.

2: You

Phone Home: It was impressive. It was impressive when I first started rapping. When I first started rapping, it was impressive. And then I realized like, bro, you're intentionally using these words. That's not, that's not dope to me. To me, to me, to me.

2: Yo, to the Dixon, man, got a lot of ease. Why you the fuck are you, man?

Big: I'ma thank somebody.

The Iron Fist: Man, I don't know, man. You gotta think these niggas was from the hood. I don't think these niggas was just like picking up dictionaries and don't these niggas like if you if I like, you know what saying? These was just some regular hood. These some real hood niggas in Brooklyn, Shaolin, wherever they was from at that time. These niggas was just rhyming like that. And they was kids. They was like 19, 19, 20 years old writing like that.

Big: But see that's dope to me though. But now, now, I don't think they do that now, but I think like.

Phone Home: Yeah, nothing. Are you crazy? ⁓

Big: But $133,000 is like that.

Eric: Thanks for

Big: Yup. But Undre 3000 is like that. He's a nigga that'll use big words and big boy, big boy make words rhyme, but that nigga went in the category of fucking Undre 3000 when it come to putting concepts together.

The Iron Fist: Exactly! is! This nigga-

Phone Home: Big words don't make you lyricist though, man. Big words don't make you a lyricist.

The Iron Fist: It don't. I mean, I don't think it do. It has to make sense when it got context. And if you pay attention, they are saying something though. It's just, instead of like a down south nigga be like...

Big: And do though, and do especially when you got context. Right.

Phone Home: Man, them niggas, what 2 said is the truth. Them niggas rap like they in a Dr. Strange movie. That's what them niggas rap like.

The Iron Fist: It's kinda neat to me though. But see, but see, that's the cool thing about different areas of rap. The way they see the world, it's like they gonna rhyme different. Just like when you go to St. Louis, that's why you'll find the Nelly. You know what I'm saying? I'm going down, down, baby. Do it the way he's, they all saying the same thing when you think about it.

2: You

3eezy Bih: Bro, hey!

Eric: That's

Big: That's it. That's it. Go straight in the rain road. Boom, boom, baby. Ready to let it go.

The Iron Fist: They all say the same thing, they all rap about the same stuff, but it's their perspective and how they do it. You know what I'm saying? Nelly would still talk about it, nigga, I'll shoot you up, but he would just say, I'm coming down, down, baby. Yo, street in the rain, street sweeper, baby. Like, it just sounded good.

Big: Yup. You see, and he got that bounce like, street sweeper. And a nigga from Florida, Plies, he be like, we got them choppers. You remember how Plies, that definition of real, how that shit made, like how it made the streets feel, right? That's one of those albums, like we were talking about Savage Life, but Plies' definition of real and Savage Life is one of the two, I think one of the two best down south albums, like foreign, like from start to finish.

The Iron Fist: Exactly, exactly.

2: Yeah.

Big: Them bitches is crazy.

Phone Home: So when I put Florida in my top while you was tripping and being the next reason, I did say blinds.

Big: You ain't say plies though. You see he ain't say plies I did it.

3eezy Bih: I wouldn't know.

Big: all right, but I'm a geek. I like Florida. Florida would be definitely my number four or five. No, Florida had to be five for me because...

Phone Home: Like I feel like I feel like I feel like I feel like I Plas I feel like Plas got multiple classics. That's just to me though. I feel like Plas got multiple classics. That's to me though.

2: La's got that fire.

3eezy Bih: Hey, y'all, y'all boy running into each other. I don't know if somebody internet fucked up or what.

Big: Yup yup the one after definition of rhythm.

Phone Home: we already know who Internet fucked up. ⁓

Big: Hahaha

The Iron Fist: Niggas like masterpiece.

Phone Home: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: ⁓ yeah, we roasting. We roasting.

2: you

The Iron Fist: No, man!

Big: But see, it's like to me, to me it's different forms of rap, right? Like New York has the wordplay, right? They have like, they use synonyms and use big ass words. But down south, you have like, when you go to Ross, Ross will make you feel like you on top of the world. Like when you have a nigga like, that box Chevy song, that shit is crazy. Box Chevy is so fucking crazy. Like, I started with a box Chevy.

The Iron Fist: They do. Mm-hmm.

Big: and niggas make their motherfuckers say like, was a Lamborghini in the hood.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Phone Home: Yep. Yep.

Big: That nigga Ross is like, he like a preacher. He almost like a preacher. I can tell he's from Mississippi when that nigga rap. That nigga sound like, yeah, and his family is too. He's from Clarksdale.

2: I like the Deltos one.

3eezy Bih: We know what we're doing.

Big: Yup, he's from Mississippi. He was born, but he was raised in Florida. He was born in Mississippi. But you can tell how that nigga rap though. He rap like somebody like, you ever been to a church service and how like a pastor like, and like he get his point across and like, he might be like, almost like he yelling at you and then the organs will start playing. And I said, that's how Ross rap. Like that nigga rap like he, he getting his point across and you could understand him.

3eezy Bih: You know that's smooth?

Phone Home: Okay, okay. ⁓

3eezy Bih: Peace.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Big: Like that shit is crazy. ⁓ Kendrick is like that. And I understood when Lupe said he's a better.

Phone Home: I just don't have to get to the episode. Let's all get to the episode before we a kid.

2: You

3eezy Bih: Hey, your mic loads smoothly.

Phone Home: That's what I was asking them boys, man.

3eezy Bih: No more don't fuck with you. No more don't fuck with you. Hey, hey, you're perfect for Daryl cuz shit. You ain't talking, he can't.

Big: Nah, your mic perfect.

Phone Home: It's dink shit, man.

2: Dude!

Eric: Thank

2: You

Phone Home: Hey, how's it sound, Bill?

Eric: I said I couldn't meet on my end. Hey, do got a bounce at like 1045 1145 on y'all side. 11 at the latest.

3eezy Bih: Let me just make sure you get my speaker to you.

Big: Okay, okay, so we got an hour and 15 minutes. We should be able to get that crowd, cause we only got one beat topic.

Phone Home: We got like six topics on this bed. That's how I run through the road. Yo, what it do, man. It's your boy, Smooth, aka Mr. Do What It Do, aka Always On The Move, and this is episode 52 of the Phone Home Podcast.

Eric: Yeah, see, he's big.

Big: Damn, mania.

2: Yeah, you do sound like- What's up man, it's your boy 2 but never second man. Just let the junior high go, never dial on us, 2 Alive. What's happening with you 3?

3eezy Bih: But you know it is it's 83 not the number but the name man just trying to get the mic to work But you know it is three on the shoulders man.

Eric: Yo, yo, you know what it is, man. It's your boy Eric. For all your mental health needs, visit myconnectcounseling.net. Again, for all your mental health needs, visit myconnectcounseling.net. Man, we got episode 52. So you know, a legendary linebacker straight out of Baltimore, Maryland, Ray Lewis!

3eezy Bih: Who built? Who built? ⁓ no!

2: Do the dance, Bill.

Eric: Let's have a hard-hitting ass episode legendary episode. Let's get it passing it to my dog Willie

The Iron Fist: Sup. All praise to the most high man, it's your dog Terrell Tarantino aka Terrell Wheels aka T Wheels aka T Wheels on the tank aka the Carablandada aka the Iron Fist hitting your heart at the never coming at you like that though man, Darryl take it away man.

Big: Yes sir, yes sir, it's your boy Big Bear. We live from the office today. always on and never off in episode 52. Let's get it.

The Iron Fist: Sup, let's do it.

Eric: Let's get it.

Phone Home: Yes sir, yes sir.

2: It's nice.

3eezy Bih: and they say, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,

Phone Home: fucked up. All four.

3eezy Bih: You did awful. Y'all know when I was in my prime, boys.

The Iron Fist: Shout out cousin Chris,

3eezy Bih: Every day, every day, man. ⁓

Phone Home: Yes, sir. Yes, sir, man. So, hey, man, so you know, they just, they actually just, they just went around the moon today, you know? So, you know, I seen, I seen that, I seen that they was, you know, going to the moon. And then I seen that they was going around the moon. So it just, I'm like, 67 years later, like y'all niggas can't, y'all can't land on the moon? So then it just made me feel like, I don't think we ever went to the moon, man.

The Iron Fist: I've heard that before. I actually heard that before. They said that we never went.

Phone Home: ⁓ shit, like...

Big: Well, I'm blank.

Phone Home: Like, I don't know, man. It's just kinda odd that like 60, 70 years later, more technology, like y'all niggas don't, you won't go land on the moon now.

Eric: Yeah, you think it'd be a lot easier to land on the moon now. But I just don't think we got the, we don't have the need to do that now. Like I think, you know, we was back in what, I don't know, the fucking 60s, we were motivated for a different reason because it was a race. Right, right. You know, during the Cold War and, we had motivation. Now, you know, the budget, budgets are different. You know, we're more of a tip focus.

Big: Cut that.

The Iron Fist: That thing that's trying to be Russia,

Phone Home: Uh-huh.

3eezy Bih: Yeah.

Phone Home: betting it gets after you read it. Say it like you read it.

Eric: Huh? yeah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, ⁓

Phone Home: You

3eezy Bih: Was it that smooth?

Big: That's good though, that's good. Hey man, don't let them get you off of that girl.

3eezy Bih: I think we're fly with it, smooth.

2: Nah, nah, I reading. ⁓ I'm looking over some documents.

Big: Don't let them get you off of a bill. Hey, don't let them niggas

The Iron Fist: hahahahah ⁓

Eric: I'm gonna read straight through text, you can read text. Man, let me goddamn stop the count!

Big: My dog thought he was reading a teleprompter, ain't it? I don't know how they do that shit so good.

Eric: Yeah, nah.

Phone Home: You're watching...

The Iron Fist: Aye they do!

2: you

Big: Cause it be right above the camera though. It's like.

The Iron Fist: Right. And it's like they don't skip a beat almost or never really.

Eric: ⁓ Yeah, right. That's a talent in itself. Yeah, but I don't know. just I think we got a different motivation this time around. Because I don't think we went behind the boom last time, Ain't that what this mission is about?

Big: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, yeah.

3eezy Bih: Nah nigga, what you doing ain't no time nigga.

The Iron Fist: dark side of the moon.

Big: No, it's just the dark side of the moon. Yep, that's they say. The moon never rotates. It always faces us the same exact way.

The Iron Fist: Have y'all heard about the-

Big: I believe they never went to the moon. Cause I'm a smooth. If you went in, what's that 1969, right? If you went in 1969, that's almost like 50 years ago. You ain't telling me you ain't went in 50 years. If you went 50 years ago, that's what I'm saying. Like if you think right 50 years ago, they had like, you know, they barely had like,

The Iron Fist: Neil Armstrong.

3eezy Bih: like saving it as I'm like.

Phone Home: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm. more improvements. Mm-hmm.

Big: you know, gas cars, because 100 years ago, we had the first car. Now we got, they're the flying vehicles now. And you telling me you went to the moon 50 years ago and you ain't got no technology that has topped that? I don't think we ever went. I think they did like sci-fi. I think that was an experiment on what it is. What they call it? Well, you do special effects, right?

Phone Home: And then...

Big: Cause that was big like when they were doing the Star Wars movies, when they was doing like the green screen, they call it something. It's like conspiracies call it something, but I think that that's what that was. That's what them practicing new technology, see if they can fool motherfuckers.

The Iron Fist: and I was just talking. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That dude kind of makes sense though.

Phone Home: Yeah.

Eric: Yeah, but what is the motivation for that though? Like what's the motivation for faking this shit?

2: And you think, do you think the, you think electronics?

Big: to say you beat Russia. And that makes Russia stop trying to go to the moon if they're not there first.

Phone Home: I don't think necessarily it's to beat Russia, but I think, you know, to me it just seemed like America is like a country, like we always want to seem like we first, you know what saying? In every aspect, you know? So it's just like a, it's just like an ideology of like us being there first. We're superior, like we're superior in this, we're superior in that, you know? So, man, I was looking at that.

3eezy Bih: Yeah.

The Iron Fist: interior.

Big: And it was the Cold War. It was the Cold War. It was Russia against America. It was the war of like, basically, like technology. Who can get there first? It was Russia and America. And so Russia, they were the first to have somebody in an outer space, like in the atmosphere, right? And so America, they was panicking. Cause even before then, you know, they had no space program. That's when NASA was created. had just maybe not even five years been created just because of that.

Phone Home: and niggas went to space they went to the moon five years after the program being created and i was looking at the video niggas look like they got vacuum cleaners on they back dawg i was like

Eric: It's great.

Big: I don't know.

2: Peace.

The Iron Fist: Hey, boy! What about that movie Hidden Figures though or is that when they orbited the moon? Y'all seen that movie? Alright, so it's a movie. It's where Taraji, it's a movie that Taraji plays in but I forget the lady's name but she was supposed to have been like a super genius mathematician and she had helped the guys at NASA. guess they would, I want to say they got stuck in space some kind of way or

2: You

Phone Home: Yeah, yeah.

Big: I haven't seen that movie. Explain it to us T-Will.

3eezy Bih: Thank you. I'll leave you.

The Iron Fist: but she had to figure out the right kind of math for them to re-enter the Earth's atmosphere without them dying. And she basically was able, her and her team of black sisters, they was able to help them accomplish that. But it's called hidden figures. It has basically like a quadruple meaning. Hidden figures because she was a black woman. She was not privy to the information that the white people had. So she basically had to figure this stuff out with, y'all know on them Epstein files, they got the little black deducted, whatever that word is, they got that stuff blacked out. Yeah, that. So she basically had to figure it out with those type of documents. That's number one, so those were hidden figures because she still had to put the math together. Number two, hidden figures because they were black women who...

2: You're back.

3eezy Bih: Thank you. Good day to all.

The Iron Fist: basically didn't get the credit, you know what I'm saying? So like they were hit, she was a hidden figure, literally, like, you know what I'm saying? But she played a major role into, you know, like these people and NASA being, you know, successful or whatever. although I do kind of agree, I say all that to say this, although I do kind of agree that like, dang, that could happen where they may or not went, but then I look at movies like that where that's real deal stuff, like, you know, that happened to like black people. You'd be like, dang. So maybe they could have done, maybe they could have went to the moon or at least got there where they was orbiting it or whatever, going into space and stuff like that. So, cause those are real stories.

3eezy Bih: Well, why wouldn't you think they would though? mean.

The Iron Fist: But that's what we talking about now, you know what I'm saying? Are you talking about me personally?

3eezy Bih: I know, I I know. saying, I'm I guess I'm, I'm not, I'm asking more like the, the, I mean, I don't think, I don't think it's gonna be conspiracy dude, but like, you know, I ain't no big conspiracy dude, but I always ask like the question of why not? Because they, they brought back like moon rocks and shit. And then they was on the race, like what the Darrell said. I mean, kind of everybody know that they was racing from Russia. So ain't nobody in Russia actually just came out and be like, man, that shit fake. Like, so.

2: Tessasus Good point.

3eezy Bih: If I'm trying to beat you, I can really demean what you did if I'm trying to be like, it's cheating.

Big: I'ma tell you why though, Dink. I'ma tell you why. We've never seen a video of Russia touching the moon. They were so close and Russia was beating the American space. We've never seen China touch the moon. We've never seen Africa touch the moon. We've never seen no other country but America. And so that brings the theory of, you know, know, the flat earth theory. I don't believe the earth is flat. I don't believe the earth is flat, but.

3eezy Bih: Why would, why would?

Phone Home: I'm gonna save it. I was just gonna say that we see nobody else try to do this to you.

The Iron Fist: I never thought about it.

3eezy Bih: Thank

Phone Home: Nobody travel with us.

Big: You know, the theory is also that Earth has a dome over it, And it talks about the dome also in the Bible, right? I can't, they're gonna say it in comments, but they talk about a dome over the Earth, right? To where you cannot break past the dome. And so that has me thinking as a conspiracist, if you went to the moon, why not go back?

The Iron Fist: Really? Yeah, I'm gonna have to look that up. I may have missed it.

Big: Why not set up bassists like they set up bassists in every country on the moon? That would be the perfect bass, because you can monitor every country. You can damn near monitor every country.

Phone Home: ⁓ No, no, that's not that's not really a accurate because you got satellites that does all of it. So

Big: But satellites don't go to the moon. Satellite stays in Earth's orbit.

Phone Home: But that's what I'm saying. It ain't really the moon. Oh really? It's not really a lot to do on the moon. So I don't think it's like I don't think it's something that you

3eezy Bih: I mean, my thing is this though, like my pushback to that is like, like you saying that you've never seen China and them all go, but you also ain't never seen China and them debunk what America did. And those are enemies, right? So why not be like, hey, man, niggas really didn't go.

Phone Home: Well, how could you say that the propaganda is real everywhere? So how could you say that the propaganda is not out there?

Big: Exactly.

3eezy Bih: Well, but that's what I'm saying. That ain't for me to answer that because I'm not a conspiracy person. I'm saying that you got other ways to debunk. You got enemies that can debunk what's going on. Ain't nobody else came out.

Phone Home: That's what we're seeing. That's what we're seeing. The propaganda is out there, though.

Big: think they do, I think they just hide it from us.

3eezy Bih: See, I ain't gonna lie to you. That's why I'm like, I know for the part, y'all, but that's why I hate conspiracies, because it's a never-answer. Like, that's why I hate it.

2: Yeah, well, we don't got the same internet either

The Iron Fist: That's a good point too.

Phone Home: What'd you say too?

The Iron Fist: It's a different internet. Right.

2: No, we don't got the same internet as the ones that will be posting it.

The Iron Fist: That's right.

Big: Correct. And they can't see the same things we see and we definitely can't see the same thing they see. I think, okay, so like America is so advanced, right? But we all know China and Japan are way more advanced technology wise. I don't, I don't. I'm saying technology. I disagree, I disagree.

3eezy Bih: Would you like?

2: We've seen red.

The Iron Fist: Right, right. That's a good point.

2: I'm a fan.

Phone Home: I disagree. disagree. I disagree. That's propaganda. That's propaganda. That's propaganda, bro. That's propaganda, bro.

Big: So hold on, hold on, hold on. If we talking about technology, right? I don't think.

Phone Home: China still, bro, it is a known fact that China still everything. It is a known fact that they still every fucking thing that they do, They're not everything. The military, technology, America has all this shit before they do. All this shit on OIC.

Big: Of what though? But so, hold on, on. Saying military technology is different than saying technology, right? So Japan, North, no, Japan, South Korea, and hold on, hold on. Japan, South Korea, and China are three of the most advanced countries in the world, far as technology, far as IQ, far as anything when it comes to mathematics and science and technology. That's a fact.

Phone Home: I disagree entirely.

3eezy Bih: I disagree with that.

Big: don't bro, I don't because I don't disagree. If we say military, cool, we might have the best military, but we ain't never went up against China and we ain't never went up against Russia.

Phone Home: What you think, dude? Bro, okay, let me, I've been paying attention to this war shit like a motherfucker. You, that statement, hold on, hold on, hold on, bro. So that statement that you said about war, you cannot say that China is good at war if they ain't been to war in 70 years. That's impossible, that's an impossible statement to make. And that's another statement that it is. You got, you have America that's,

Big: When you saying war, I'm saying technology. Not though. Matt.

Phone Home: actively fighting and getting better every time, learning from their losses, and then you have a country ain't fought in 70 years, you just on the sidelines.

Big: It don't matter, but you have a country that's studying, you have a country that is advancing. Okay, so in the 1950s, China was not a fucking superpower. China, in 50 years, China has become the fucking superpower of the world to where majority of the world depends on China. That was never a thing, bro. China was never a superpower. Ding, ding, no, hold on.

3eezy Bih: I mean,

Phone Home: This globalization, this globalization.

3eezy Bih: Madero, Madero, it coming.

Big: Bill, I want you to look that up for us, Bill. Ask ChadGBT the most, I guess, what is it? Technological advanced countries in the world.

Eric: Mm-hmm. Look, I said, I asked you, go ahead.

3eezy Bih: I'm about to tell you something. I'm saying though, you be saying technology, y'all don't realize, well I ain't gonna say y'all, I'm just saying, we're not realizing technology is broad as shit. what are you saying, hold on, on, hold on. So what are you saying they in the lead of? Because if you wanna say that, we got the top companies of the world with Amazon, Google, all that. And so like far as like.

Big: Hooray! Light light. Mm-hmm. And apples.

3eezy Bih: As far as clout, we like the number one niggas in the world. Now if you talk about like, if you talk about like electric, hello there, let me, let me, let me, let I can get you a reporter, but don't understand what you're reporting.

Eric: Yeah.

Big: Now, who? Okay, okay.

Phone Home: Let him finish, Darryl, let him finish, Darryl, let him finish.

Eric: This damn shit! This damn shit! I'm gonna get this shit out! But yeah...

3eezy Bih: I'm so like when you say leader or they the lead like like I'm with I'm with smooth on it too. That's just propaganda because we got some of the top we got some of the top I'm talking about nations. I mean top technology where they depend on our stuff too. Like Amazon is like the world leader and then you and Google I mean come on now. So like if you talk about cloud we like number one that they might have us in like like

Phone Home: propaganda. If it.

3eezy Bih: Like Japan, think got like robotics and shit like that. And Chinese might, think they more like, if you're talking about electric cars and stuff, but that's what I'm trying to say. What you talking about technology? It's a broad.

Eric: You see.

Big: Now, okay, okay, so you say cloud computing. Okay.

Eric: Hold on, hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I think Darryl, this is great. This is great. All right. For me, I have to agree with Dink and Smooth right here, Darryl. Let me tell you why though. Because we got, again, Dink hit it on the head. We got Apple, we got Microsoft, we got Google, we got Nvidia, right? And these companies run the world, right?

Phone Home: Hey, there, hold on, hold on, there, hold on, bro.

3eezy Bih: I that.

Eric: But where our weakness is, is that we outsource to build this shit.

Phone Home: And you know why we outsource? Cheap labor.

Eric: Go ahead, smooth. Yes, that's it. That's it. That's the only, that's the weakness we have. But as far as tech wise, like we are the front runners by mile, by more than, by mile.

Big: Wah.

3eezy Bih: cheap labor. I'll be so excited.

Big: disagree with that because, okay, all the companies you name, right, the chips that are made for those companies to have the superpower, have the supercomputers.

Phone Home: They come from Taiwan. That's why Taiwan is so...

Big: Where's Taiwan? So let me rephrase it Asia then let me rephrase it Asia

Phone Home: That's why Taiwan is such ⁓ an important country to the United States.

Eric: Yes, right.

3eezy Bih: But there is, because you're talking about overview.

Big: And also chips are made. Chips are made in.

Eric: Hold on. me ask Chad. All right, hold on.

Big: Okay, okay. Chips are made in China. They're also made in Japan.

3eezy Bih: But Darryl, you're talking about, in other words, you're talking about like a resource. Like, I mean, we have more.

Big: No, no, I'm saying America doesn't currently, okay, so when Donald Trump got in the office, this is one good thing he's done, try to bring companies back to America because we have no chip manufacturer.

Phone Home: No, no,

Big: Okay.

3eezy Bih: Right.

Big: No, I'm talking about the technology to design these ships and manufacture them.

Phone Home: No, no, but the technology, hold on bro, the idea is coming from the United States. The United States is outsourcing how it's being made.

3eezy Bih: We just make it there. Right.

Eric: Hold on. This one's

Big: But I think, so I'm like, Bill, what it say Bill?

Eric: This is what chat GBT said. It says, that's a five question. And the real answer isn't clean cut. It's less who wins and more who dominates which lane. Think of it like a championship fight where both sides are elite, but with different strengths. And then it says US versus China tech battle. right. United States equals innovation and breakthroughs, right? Our strengths is that we have home giants like Apple, Google, Microsoft, and Nvidia. And then we lead in AI models and research. We lead in advanced chips, GPUs, and semiconductors like NVIDIA, AMD, so forth and so forth. And then it says we got strong startup culture, meaning like we got them create the tech. So, and we constantly innovation. Our weakness is that manufacture is mostly outsourced, like we just said. slow, slow infrastructure rollout compared to China. All right, bam, here go, here go China though. China, they have scale and speed. They them, these motherfuckers, they mastered the goddamn assembly line. So their strengths is the companies like Hawaii, Tencent and Alibaba.

Big: Yeah, Tencing made chips.

Eric: Yes, yes. Alibaba, these companies, leads in manufacturing, they build the world's tech. they can supply the world with their shit. 5G, hold on a minute, I'm almost done. 5G infrastructure, right? That's big with the phone companies and shit. So, and then they got mass deployment, fast execution. So they can meet the world's demand for the...

3eezy Bih: world. Okay.

Eric: chips and shit. But their weakness is less original innovation at the cutting edge. Historically, this is changing though. And it says limited global trust in some sectors. Okay.

3eezy Bih: original.

Big: Now, now, now put this here, put United States versus Asia.

3eezy Bih: No, no, hell no. Look, that's the whole thing. Darryl, hold on, hold on. Hey, Darryl, hold on, hold on, on. Hey, Katamaka, this is my shit. So that's what I'm saying, like, you tripping with, like, what's the two main computer chips?

Eric: Okay.

Phone Home: This thing is good.

Big: No, no, cuz I said Japan, you said Taiwan.

Eric: Good.

Big: You got graphics and you got CPU.

3eezy Bih: No, I'm talking about the brand then. Intel and ⁓ AMD. those two. Intel, it in America.

Big: AMD. But hold on, those are made by, but don't forget phone chips. Phone chips, Qualcomm.

3eezy Bih: Intel is made in America. So I'm telling you.

Big: But not, not, okay. None of the chips Apple makes is made in America. None of those chips are made in America.

3eezy Bih: No, guys, no, see, that's what we keep saying. You keep talking about not made. basically, I'm saying, hey, y'all boys, I got this company. I will hire you niggas, but y'all asking for $25 an hour. Them niggas asking for pennies on the dollar. Let's make it over there. So that's what you trying to come back with the Trump thing saying you trying to the business over here and the reason the businesses don't want to come over there because y'all niggas want to get paid 30 an hour. I can pay these niggas $2 in the banana. Not trying to be racist or not trying to be rude.

Phone Home: Right. Right.

3eezy Bih: I'm just saying what they doing. So like that's what we be saying. You can't say somebody lead leader. That's just like Jordans. Like that nigga the number one selling in America. He make them bitches in China. Like that don't mean China came up with the idea of Jordans.

Big: Right, right, right, right. Right, okay, but,

The Iron Fist: They make them mugs in China for two bucks. And niggas come over here and kill for them mugs.

Big: ⁓ Okay, so my standpoint on this, right? Okay. So my standpoint on it is, so when you outsource to places like China, who can rapidly reproduce like smooth says, they become more advanced tech, I cannot say that word, technologically advanced, right? So like when you say companies like Samsung, right?

3eezy Bih: I mean, even Daisy Pell had that skin. No.

Big: all those screens on that shit. Samsung, every screen that we probably looking at right now is probably made by LG or Samsung, right? Okay.

3eezy Bih: Well, iPhone, the iPhone, the reason the iPhone look like the galaxy so much is because Samsung created that blueprint. I get that. We're not saying that. What we're saying is you're talking about somebody that's, if I got the idea of these damn glasses, Ray-Bans, right? I think these Ray-Bans. Yeah, these bands are right. Zoom in, smooth, know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Big: He said, the hands are right. Okay, come on.

3eezy Bih: If Ray Bang made these bitches in China or Taiwan, that don't mean that Taiwan is the innovator of these glasses. It's just, I'm making them there. You saying, cause somebody make them there, that mean they, oh, they got the lead production. Hell yeah, they got the lead production shit. I'm paying them more than, you know what saying? I can pay my two dollars, which is to be 200 to them. They moving that shit. Where we ain't doing that. I mean, we want to get paid for our labor, not saying they not get paid for labor, I'm just saying it's cheaper labor. But just because somebody.

Big: And also, and also I want to put out there too, as well. A lot of the big companies, y'all name, a lot of the creators are Asian.

Phone Home: Yeah. N***a, Nvidia? That's the only... He from India!

3eezy Bih: Thank you guys.

Big: What about Google?

3eezy Bih: You

Big: That's Asia though. But China, I still would stand behind China though. I still would stand behind China, but I named several countries. I named Japan, I named North Korea, no, South Korea. I gotta quit saying that shit. South Korea, Japan and China. I named those three. But if we say...

Phone Home: You just you group no, hold on. Hold on. No, no, hold on. No, no, Then you wanna group the whole continent.

3eezy Bih: No, that ain't group behavior, man.

Big: See, why not? But I do think China is, okay, so Bill, ask Chad to me this question. If they would have to pick one, which one is more, what country is the most technologically advanced? Just say it, just like that, what country? Cause I don't want to put it like Asia versus America. I want to know what country.

Eric: What you got?

Phone Home: He's gonna find a way to be right.

Big: I just wanna know the answer. What country is the most technologically advanced?

Phone Home: It's the United States, bro.

Big: It could be, it could be.

Phone Home: EASY!

3eezy Bih: Ay ⁓

Eric: This spread out the answer so probably faster than I've seen chat spread out.

Big: So it's probably what Smooth said,

Phone Home: understand.

Eric: If I had to pick one country overall right now, it's the United States. That's what it's.

Big: Okay.

Phone Home: back bro

3eezy Bih: Now, ay, ay, ay, so not only that though, Smooth. Like, that nigga talking about Google, but them niggas white that created Google.

Eric: Yeah.

Phone Home: I might be talking about the CEO, right? Yeah, because that's two different, completely different things.

Eric: We ain't even talked about SpaceX and they shit and what they got, know, like that's no way.

3eezy Bih: I told you, on, come there, like.

Phone Home: Right. Right.

Big: But he's from Africa though. That's what it is from. That nigga from Africa, bro. See, that shit don't count, That nigga Elon Musk is African. He is African. They saying...

Eric: Who?

Phone Home: But mean, but no, but you, but no, bro, no, bro, you can't do that. No, bro. ⁓

The Iron Fist: Yeah.

Eric: We are African.

3eezy Bih: you Hey. That nigga American now, bro.

Big: But no, no, Elam must, it was born and raised in Africa.

Phone Home: Nigga, Joe LMP was born and raised in Africa. He got a citizenship, he American.

Big: That shit don't count though. I don't believe that shit count. That's like, okay, I'ma tell you, I'ma tell you what that's like after World War II. But bro, but bro, but that shit don't count. Cause look, that's like some culture vulture shit. America is good at culture vulturing, right? I'ma tell you what that's like. After World War II, we had Germany, we took all their top scientists.

Eric: That is, he's fucking, to do it for me, he's a fucking, he's a that shit is amazing.

Phone Home: like a Gucci man from Alabama. Like what are we talking about? You're beautiful. You're beautiful.

Big: Them niggas was in Antarctica and shit. They had bases in Antarctica, Germany did. When America won World War II, they took all their lead scientists over here into America to advance their technology. What I'm saying is, if somebody is born and raised somewhere else, you can't claim that they're American. We can't claim Tesla as an American company. We can't claim that.

Phone Home: What you said though? What you saying?

3eezy Bih: I mean, what what's that about?

Phone Home: Nigga, this is United States!

3eezy Bih: Thanks.

Eric: But there are, but this is why you can though, because I don't care what part of the world you're from. If you're working for our team and you're advancing our technology for our country, then you are our asset. Does that make sense? Like that's, I mean, it don't matter where you're from. Like, you know, we all know Einstein was from where? Like you said.

Phone Home: You're on mute. You're on mute too.

3eezy Bih: Thank

Phone Home: But ain't, but nah, Bill, it's even simpler than that. Nigga, we ain't, ain't none of us from here. Like what the fuck are we talking about?

Eric: Right. Well, I think black...

Big: I don't know, I think black people from here, I argue with that on that man. That's they would come and say, they ain't gold man.

Eric: Yeah, I'm just say that. Native Americans and black people, this harsh. I just say, this is...

Phone Home: That's a whole different, that's a whole different color. But I'm just seeing, I'm just seeing bro, I'm just seeing. I'm just seeing like, yeah, yeah, I'm not trying to go there.

The Iron Fist: I'm gonna go down a rabbit hole now.

3eezy Bih: Bro, at the end of the day, bro, I ain't gonna lie to you. For the sake of time, I don't even know why we arguing. We just gotta prove this nigga that United States, like, every... Before we even got the GPG, even before we got that damn chat, GTP, we were already telling this nigga that America. And he just gotta prove like, ooh, now we trying to figure out who really from here, Native Americans or Africans.

Big: Right, right, right, right!

Phone Home: It did, it did.

Big: My dog can't say the damn.

The Iron Fist: You

Phone Home: Yeah, like this nigga got scoopin' deep. Like, nah, nah, nigga really ain't American.

Eric: All right, Dick, yeah. Hey, Dick, my boy Dick noticed so preposterous, he couldn't even say tech GPT right. He was like, no, this is not.

3eezy Bih: Man, that's man up there, bro. That's my man.

Big: My boy said, chat B-team boy. Hey, ⁓ I don't know. But look, that's a good, I think that's a good clip though. What country is the most technologically advanced? China or America? I wanna see what the comments say.

The Iron Fist: ChaddB

2: and chat BBC.

Eric: Yeah. Just two weeks.

The Iron Fist: GPT GPT GPT

3eezy Bih: No, it's not, bro. It's simplest. the fuck is wrong with it? What the fuck? No, true. Bro, you got a nigga in technology. You got a nigga that just told you he studied this shit. And then you got a nigga that's doing the fucking research online that's telling you, it's United States.

Eric: Yeah.

2: That is that the comments gonna be different the comments will be different

Phone Home: But listen, I mean, me be up in a...

3eezy Bih: We just named all of the top companies.

Big: Hey, I think, I think chat GBT is subjective. That's why I say, underneath that bitch, hey, take what we say.

Eric: But kind of

The Iron Fist: It may be, what it may be is they have a different kind of technology than what we have.

Phone Home: Hold on, hold on, hold on. got, hold on. You can ask DeepSeek then. If you feel like that, go ask DeepSeek. If you feel like that, go ask DeepSeek. That's China's language model.

2: I think it's not too.

The Iron Fist: Maybe.

Eric: Yeah. Yep.

Big: Ooh, that's a good one. Hold on.

Eric: I ⁓ think to bring this back though home about the space and did we go to the moon, don't, for me, I don't think that America will go through all this trouble to lie about it. Like, I just think it's too much. Now, I ain't that name. Look, look, look, look. I don't put it passing the lie now.

Phone Home: What?

The Iron Fist: But they go through a lot of trouble to laugh at a lot of things. Did them niggas do it, man?

Eric: But I just don't think this is one of the ones, like I don't think this one of the ones because we so advanced like in airspace and know, aircrafts and NASA, like we so advanced. Now you talk about touching the bottom of the earth floor in the sea, then I was like, yeah, we lying. But.

2: you That's my only point. Let me piggyback and I'll let you get right back Bill. My only point was like they had sanctioned that, well God bless the dead, when the boys was trying to go to the Bible Ocean. Even the military haven't tried to do so, at least not tell us. How they sanctioned that with people that weren't in the military. But then...

Eric: Nah,

Phone Home: What ain't their own I don't think they sanction that I think buddy just did it's a documentary No, he just did this shit. He didn't it's a lot of shit. didn't know he didn't do properly Yeah

3eezy Bih: Yeah, dude did it.

2: Dain Saisu!

3eezy Bih: He did that on his own turn. That nigga went down there with a PlayStation 2 controller.

Eric: I'm gonna tell you.

The Iron Fist: That's not funny.

Phone Home: Real scene.

Eric: Yeah! That was a tripping!

2: Alright man, I negate my point back to you, Bill.

3eezy Bih: ⁓ shit, the X button ain't working, cuz.

Phone Home: Yeah, nah, yeah.

The Iron Fist: Stop it man, stop it.

Big: You

Eric: So we do R2, R2 fuck ⁓ this!

The Iron Fist: Hey, when you think about that whole situation, that is a scary situation though,

Phone Home: Nah, but shit, that ain't... That ain't...

3eezy Bih: I can go out and play R2 during the winter.

Phone Home: But listen though, listen, it ain't even no, it ain't even no scary situation. Them niggas ain't have time to think about being scared. Like that shit like just, it was like, come on bro.

3eezy Bih: See how we did.

Eric: All right. Pooh. Poof! you don't, man, you don't play with that seed, boy. Like, man, don't mess around down there. You better off going to the moon.

The Iron Fist: Man, to me, it's unknown in both of them though. And they say we actually know more about space than our seas. But to me, man, if I had an opportunity to just like, they did like, you just want to fly out of space. I'd be like, no, like there's no reason for me to be up there. No, I have no desire to go in space. No, whatsoever. I have no desire.

Phone Home: He bit off going out of space.

3eezy Bih: You sound like old boys.

Eric: better.

2: You

Eric: Thank

2: No. You were hurt. That's all right.

3eezy Bih: I you're no.

Eric: I ain't gonna lie. Nah, I probably would though. I was just kidding. I was just kidding.

Phone Home: They doing this around the corner that's becoming

Eric: Man, I'm telling you bro, dog, do you be seeing them images bro, when them astronauts be looking back and taking pictures on earth from space? Dog, bro, what?

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I might throw up, I'm telling you, bro. I wouldn't be able to take it.

Phone Home: That might be the least of your worries.

2: Right.

3eezy Bih: like blow more.

Eric: Hey, have y'all seen Project Hail Mary? ⁓

Phone Home: Nah, nah, I wanna go see that though.

Eric: ⁓ man, y'all got to see that. That's a phenomenal film. Basically, the sun is, or it ain't even a sun's dying. Well, yeah, basically the sun is dying. And I ain't gonna give y'all too much of the plot. Sun is dying and you know, of course what happens when the sun down. But there's this like plant eating, star eating disease that's out there in space. And the little stars.

Big: Okay.

Eric: around the hour sun is also dying, but there's one star that's like untouched. Like why did all these plant eating diseases kill all these stars, but leave this one untouched?

3eezy Bih: Are you saying plant or plant nick?

Eric: I'm sorry, eating or star eating diseases, right? So they start eating disease or sun eating diseases is out there in space and ours is next to be eaten or killed. Yes, no, yes. Earth's sun is next to be eaten. So these calculations, they do all of this shit and they're like, yo, and they send this high school scientist, but he's like, you know, he's like real quirky and we be better.

3eezy Bih: like her.

Big: Thank

3eezy Bih: Okay.

Big: Thanks.

Eric: He's so smart, but they sent him up there to figure it out and like save earth pretty much. And this movie is fucking phenomenal, bro. Y'all have to see this in its own, it's called Project Hail Mary. This movie is amazing, bro. Y'all have to see this. Yeah, yeah. So I don't want to give y'all too much of the movie, but long story short, you go to space to try to figure out what's going on and why this.

Big: .

The Iron Fist: was a cow.

Phone Home: Yeah, I'm gonna go see that.

2: I'm gonna save it. I'm gonna watch it.

Eric: planet, why these entities isn't eating this star. And they kind of just try to see what's going on with that. But y'all are going to love this one.

Phone Home: that. Yeah. Well, yeah, man. Poo Scyste and Gucci, man. Poo Scyste and Gucci, man. Two lead it off, man. Don't lead it off, too.

Eric: Okay.

2: FDO FDO Nah shit nah Shit man I just ⁓ Man I don't know I don't really I don't Cuz well I just just seen I guess I seen a big 30 number of lawyers them my boy saying That Gucci is not gonna cooperate now like but shit after initial report. don't know what the fuck else you need to do But just going back to as we've been knowing about people and seeing after the growth, it's still like just limited growth too. I think it's a, I hate the way culture, I hate the way people react to the same situation. It just depends on who the person is happening to.

3eezy Bih: life.

2: It's the same situation over and over again, it just depend on who the main character is, the way we gonna talk about it, speak about it. And we also.

3eezy Bih: Conte, what you talking about? Give an example, what you mean by that? Give an example of who we did that to or coach who did that to.

2: I really think there's too much of a difference between this situation and the gunner situation for real, for real. It's a big difference, we're playing the same ball field. But for that situation, we ain't playing that ball field at all. This situation, we kind of on edge of what we're doing here. But I'll take it, just even though...

Big: Big difference.

2: I just think people love Gucci Gucci motherfucker. They can't do nothing wrong, man If anybody else in the rap game would have went on them like them Twitter rants and all that Gucci did Or stood on stage when Jesus was trying to be a dope like Gucci did they don't got shown on but she

3eezy Bih: I mean, think Gucci began fair-crysittin'. You don't think so?

Big: I think Gucci's situation is similar to 6ix9ine's too.

2: Passo.

Big: Okay, Gucci got robbed by the same niggas that he ran with or that was part of his crew. 6ix9ine got robbed and kidnapped by the same niggas that was part of his crew.

2: Okay, but let's do this. 6ix9ine was okay. 6ix9ine, the whole world was like, no, you ain't no, you ain't no real gang member. And they all recognize the guys he was with were real gang members and they took advantage of the money. Plus I always protect the money, man. You feel me? Whereas so Gucci's the villain. He ain't never been a victim. You know what mean? And also it's like, damn, see, that's why you don't sign the rappers. His label.

Big: The character is different, but the situation is not.

3eezy Bih: Hello, so I guess this is I'm about to intervene. Who on was I? What y'all talking about? I'm connected.

2: Huh?

Big: No, no, I'm saying the character Six-Nine and Gucci are two different characters, but the situation they are in are the same.

3eezy Bih: So what I'm saying is this, because he brought it all gone. So what you trying to, so Darryl, because sometimes I read your messages on the podcast, I mean on the group chat, but I don't want to read it I want to save this shit for this. So you saying he did snitch or he didn't snitch?

2: Okay.

Big: I say it's perception. I don't think Gucci snitched at all. I think the federal government, hold on, hold on, hold on. I think the federal government wrote it up in legal terms to make it look like Gucci snitched to further increase their ability to indict and put Poochites to end jail. And also it's a double edged sword. If you Gucci mad, look like a snitch. You done some shit. You get what saying? You killed two birds with one stone. I get to throw this nigga in jail and I get to fuck up this nigga's reputation. You get what I'm saying now? I don't think Gucci Mane said anything. All they had to do, if Gucci Mane put it like this, if Gucci Mane and bodyguard asked him, who was that? man, that's Poo Shiesty. They could put that in there. Gucci identified that man who robbed us as Poo Shiesty and it could be the security guard. And what 6ix9ine said about the subpoena, that is true, but you do have the, plead the fifth, got the fifth amendment. So he don't have to snitch, but he may have to take the stand. And that still look bad.

3eezy Bih: No, if you take the stain, it bleeds

Big: But we talking about modern day niggas though. Like look at Lil Woody, he got up there and niggas called him and still he got up there and played the whole trial.

The Iron Fist: He spun. He He...

3eezy Bih: What I'm saying though, bro, I don't think people saying you take a stand, you a snitch. I ain't saying that.

The Iron Fist: I think some of them do though. Sometimes they say if you get on the stand period, you know, I'm not a street guy, but I have heard dudes say that before though.

3eezy Bih: Who's saying that? Give me an example. Give me an example of somebody saying somebody took the stand and they didn't say nothing. They said they snicked.

2: I'm putting on what you say on this thing ⁓

The Iron Fist: I've just heard, I don't know about the ins and outs of it, I've just heard guys say that if you get on the stand, you're snitching.

Big: I'm vain.

3eezy Bih: I think we should cap it now.

Big: I don't know about the ending, I know a nigga saying a nigga took the stand on me. Even if you don't say nothing, why you gonna stand on me?

3eezy Bih: No.

The Iron Fist: I have, I have, that's a fact.

3eezy Bih: I have never heard that before. Why they can be the takers? No, no, bro. Ain't no way in the world, because you got to get on the stand, because you get subpoenaed, or you in contempt. So you in contempt. But if you on that bed saying, plead the fifth, ain't nobody in the world workin' by. And I'm being honest, ain't nobody, that's why I said you gotta give me an example, because we gotta make sure we ain't just yet. Because ain't no big as saying, man, this week.

The Iron Fist: See, that's what I said. I'm like, how do you not get out of this?

Big: But see that's what make.

2: Just yapping. Gotta yap a little bit though.

3eezy Bih: This nigga went on stage and snitched on me. ⁓ what'd say? Man, plead the fifth. Ain't nobody doing that, girl.

2: Look who took a look who took a look

Big: But look, but look, but look, it's both though, right? So it's the name and the paperwork, right? And I don't believe Gucci Mane said anything. I don't believe, I think that's just legal jargon. That's what they call that, legal jargon to prosecute.

3eezy Bih: I'm not here, I'm not.

The Iron Fist: Like, but we also got realized, we also got realized like when this happened, like a off duty cop was being robbed. so like we have to realize like this, this man probably has a pension. You know, I don't know what police got going on, but I'm just saying like he, you know, from, from, what I've heard, he has an oath, you know, he, how can he, if you got a, I'm talking about, we got a police officer who's off duty. How can he not tell?

Big: Right.

The Iron Fist: Wouldn't that make him, wouldn't that make him like be a part of some sort of crime or something? If you really put it in perspective, like you, like, like what are we talking about? Like that had to like be talked, that had to be reported. You can't, you can't like, it don't work like that.

2: He's a metadata reporter, don't you think?

Big: He has to tell. Right. Correct. Obstruction of justice. Thanks.

2: But, but, but it does though, it does.

3eezy Bih: ⁓

Phone Home: I don't know. If it's security guard snitch, Gucci is snitch.

Big: And now...

The Iron Fist: Let's see, let's see, y'all saying security guard. I'm talking about off duty cop.

Big: No, I disagree with that. I disagree with that. I disagree with that I disagree with that but but I give a smooth I give a smooth saying but I disagree with them to an extent right but I'm gonna get back on your point smooth I'm gonna get back on your point. But okay, so I'm gonna get deep. This is my thing deep so

3eezy Bih: I'm not gonna play this. I'm gonna play this.

2: No, no, no, wait, wait.

3eezy Bih: I'm not gonna say this. I'm not gonna say this.

2: Do you think? Do you think?

Phone Home: things.

3eezy Bih: Yeah.

Phone Home: You work for me. You work for me. You got it?

The Iron Fist: But that might be a side job though.

Big: I don't think Gucci Mare said anything, if let's say, and this is why I kind of agree with what you're saying, Smooth. If he's an off duty officer and he has a report, he probably asked Gucci, where are we going? Who are we going to see? Oh, we're going to see Poo Shiesty. And so in the paperwork, they can legally write, Gucci Mare identified Big 30 and Poo Shiesty, wearing the whatever, because he identified it to his security guard. which is quote unquote a police officer. So they are right for saying that, but it may be out of context.

The Iron Fist: That makes sense.

2: Daryl you sawin' the bias that I was talkin' about bro. We love Gucci. I don't believe in black and white. Saw your pet word. Now I believe that shit my nigga.

3eezy Bih: I'm with you too.

The Iron Fist: You

3eezy Bih: Thanks. ⁓

Big: But now let me ask you this too. Do you think Gucci sat down and identified it with the feds? You think he sat down and said, yeah, this is Pooh Shrestha and this is Big 30 right here, dressed in this right here with this goddamn Shrestha mask on. You think he did that?

2: Support answer no and also but she did we can't go out the black and white with the fuck we do

Big: See, that's last week episode. It's about perception. That's exactly what I was trying to tell Deke. A nigga can make you look like you did something and you ain't never did nothing. And in the whole world of believers, that's exactly, that's a perfect example, Deke. It's all about perception.

Eric: Obviously I do. Man, I hate to really go against because I do, like if you, I'm a hard evidence type of person. Black and white speak here, speak volume for me. But I do know that that can be manipulated too. I do know that, you know, propaganda is real and it goes against our culture, especially. They use our media and council culture against us. And I think that that's a real thing, right? Like, don't know if Gucci, I don't know if that man sat down and pointed these people out. I can make room for that to happen, but I can also make room to be like, yeah, nah, Gucci, I ain't do that. And I can also go off what I've known the law enforcement to do when it comes to hip hop artists and it's to spin stuff and make a narrative that don't necessarily true. So, you know, I...

Big: Yo.

Eric: think both of them can be true. Two things can be true, but I don't know.

The Iron Fist: ⁓ That's a fair answer right there. That's a fair answer.

3eezy Bih: So do.

Big: and that that would make it so such a great area.

3eezy Bih: So Bill, Bill, Bill, but this my point when we were talking about this shit 50 episodes ago or whatever episodes ago. Nigga, it wasn't the last episode I'm talking about when we were talking about gonna and shit. Snitching is snitching. Look, it's different variables to everything. Y'all keep saying if you ain't part of this, ain't part bro, if the officer come up, you know dude is a officer.

2: Thanks.

Big: Yeah, the last episode. ⁓ okay,

3eezy Bih: And you told that dude and you know his oath, it all come with it. If you told dude, no matter what you did, you snitched. It's a snitch. You snitched. Once again, no, hold on, let me finish. Once again, I don't care if a nigga snitch or not. Look, anything happen to my daughter call me a snitch, I'm snitch. I don't care. I'm not the snitch in police or who supposed to be what it is. I'm just telling you the definition of snitch is if you told on somebody, gonna.

Big: Okay, go ahead, go ahead. You got it?

3eezy Bih: a snitch, I don't care what was the circumstances. He confirmed whatever they needed. He did it. He cooperated. You snitch, TI, one of my favorite rappers. He told on his dead homie, his dead homie probably told, hey, look at my dad, put the shit on me. You still consider us, bro, y'all make the shit so complicated. Did you tell, yes or no? Yeah. you snitched. Whether or not, whether or not you know what coaching you live by, what happened.

2: Tell you what, nigga.

The Iron Fist: It's just that simple.

3eezy Bih: I don't care. You stick your stick. It is a double.

The Iron Fist: It is not, it's not, cause look, hold on, hold cause this is I thought a snitch was. I always thought, hold on.

Big: It's not that simple, Dean. It ain't black and white.

Phone Home: Hold on, hold on, no, hold on, hold on, we'll it. No, it is, it is that simple for the streets. It is that simple for the streets. It is that simple for the streets. It ain't no, it ain't no in between. It ain't that simple for us, but it is that simple for the streets, bro. It is.

Big: Let's move on, because I like smooth point. I like smooth point.

3eezy Bih: I filthy. Thanks! Yeah. Yeah. Ain't no in between.

Big: It ain't though.

3eezy Bih: It's just simple! Like, what the hell going on?

Big: But, but, okay, okay, but, but you got people like Young Thug, you got people like 21 Savage saying Young Thug ain't snitch though.

3eezy Bih: No, that's somebody that was coming to Young Thug Defense. We talking about as a culture, as it been for years and years on years. Basically what 21 Savage is doing, what you doing. I either have my partner or somebody I really like, whatever, whatever. So I'm saying, hey, these are circumstances. These are situations. This is what could, could not have happened. I'm just telling you, bro, it's Caucasian and Negro. It's that simple, bro.

Phone Home: Right. Right.

Big: But, but me. understand that thing.

Phone Home: Okay, let's switch speeds though. Let's switch speeds though. Let's talk about Poo Siesty. You know what saying?

Big: No, no, no, no, no, no. I want you to go back on your point first, Smooth, about, okay, Smooth made a good point. He says he believed Gucci is a snitch because his security guard is a police officer. Now, I want you to elaborate on that. Do you think Gucci?

Phone Home: I mean, I'm just saying, think that goes back to Dink Point. Nigga, if your security guard right here, he know, you done told him all this shit and he go tell, nigga, you still a snitch.

2: Okay. I agree.

The Iron Fist: But...

Big: But now, do you think Gucci man knew his security guard was an off duty officer or he just hired somebody in that area as a security?

2: Yuck.

The Iron Fist: I think that y'all know. They say 50 be with Navy SEAL people and stuff like that. Ain't be no one.

Phone Home: Man, he know that, he know that shit bro. know all that shit.

3eezy Bih: Yeah nigga, you gonna get somebody that drank. Bro, you think them niggas getting the regular nigga out the tree?

2: Yeah. Go back to go back to the, the mob movies, man.

Big: Next question, next question. I got one more question. Do you think that was a calculated play by Gucci man to have an off duty officer knowing he was going to pull sites?

Phone Home: ⁓ I don't give a fuck what it is. I don't give a fuck what it is. If that police officer snitch, Gucci is still a snitch to me. Now, do I validate anything? Fuck no. But I'm just saying, I know that this nigga, I know that this nigga done told this nigga to do this shit. He done asked Gucci. He asked.

2: No.

3eezy Bih: No, ⁓ He has some type of... He has some... Don't lick my baby.

Phone Home: No, he, I'm telling you, he gonna ask Gucci, what do you want me to do? And if you tell that nigga to do what you want to do, you snitchin'. You snitchin', bro.

Big: No, the rumors was Gucci told nobody to say nothing about it, but since he was an out-duty officer, he had the quote unquote report thief.

3eezy Bih: Smooth, That a so smooth smooth. That's my only pushback because he still can betray his boss But what I'm saying on this though to that point is nigga You know what you getting into just like T wheels just say that's kind of like what we were saying last week You know what you're getting into hiring the off-duty cop He got an oath. He got this in there. So you whatever you tell him what

The Iron Fist: ⁓ That's the safety play if you ask me.

Phone Home: Right! He's a snitch! He's a snitch!

2: Now, isn't that?

The Iron Fist: That's safety play! To me! To me!

Phone Home: God's a smart, the world's a reputation!

Big: That's what I'm trying to tell you.

Eric: Hey, Gucci really awesome!

Big: Do you think Gucci calculated that? That's what I'm saying. Knowing he was going to meet Pooshiesty.

The Iron Fist: That's the best safety this he's a corporate man. He's okay. He's okay to walk around with security

Phone Home: I don't give fuck about here, particularly if you see.

3eezy Bih: Hey, T-Wheel! T-Wheel! T-Wheel 2! T-Wheel 2! All y'all! All y'all!

Phone Home: ⁓ So, hey, so listen, let's talk about that. ⁓

Big: Smooth, smooth. Before you go on, let's do a talent. What everybody think? Did Gucci snitch? Did Gucci snitch, yes or no? Ask everybody smooth. Ask everybody, I want to know what everybody believe. I want to know what everybody believe.

Phone Home: We ain't don't gon' tell you, man. We ain't don't gon' tell you, man.

3eezy Bih: Now, so this is my thing though. Hello, Darryl. This is my thing, Darryl. This is my thing though. This is my thing. We can change the speed just like T.O.S moves here. This is my thing. Whether calculated or not, it's not like how T.I. was bamboozled by Alpha Mega. It's not like the nigga was bamboozled and think this nigga was a regular security guy. He knew he was off duty. He knew if I tell this nigga anything,

The Iron Fist: He's a corporate brother, man. He could walk around with ⁓ off-duty cops.

3eezy Bih: that shit could get back. So in that case of what Smoot is saying, nigga, you a snitch. Like stop trying to make it, stop trying to put any variables in it, bro. If I told you, if I told the cop that their ass was going to the store or whatever crime you committed, it's not like, oh well, yeah, but my daughter life was at stake. At the end of the day, we understand what could have happened, but nigga, you're still snitching. You're still snitching, no matter your reason.

Big: Stop. So, so, so you say he snitch, smooth say he snitch.

Phone Home: And so let's move to Willio for you. Because you can follow this up with what Willio saying. Willio is trying to separate the two. He's trying to say that Gucci man is a business man.

2: Please, please.

The Iron Fist: Peace.

Big: Hell nah, hell nah. Gucci man a street nigga. so, so, well what do you think too? You think he snitch? Yes or no too? Did Gucci snitch yes or no too?

3eezy Bih: Hey man, hey, you right smooth. Change the damn speed, bro. He niggas, this fucken trapping. Man, change the speed,

2: I Yeah.

Big: What about you, Bill? Yes or no, they Gucci snitch.

Phone Home: I don't think this really, this don't really validate nothing though, Darrell.

Big: I just want to know the majority. I just want to know the majority of us as fans.

2: It doesn't.

Eric: Do I think Gucci snitch? I'm gonna give him the benefit of doubt and say, no, I don't think he did. I think it's propaganda and it's spinning.

Big: What about you, T-Lia?

3eezy Bih: No, ⁓

The Iron Fist: I- I-

Big: Hold hold hold let T-Wheel answer.

Phone Home: Bro, ⁓

The Iron Fist: I give him the benefit of the doubt as well. I give him the benefit of the doubt.

3eezy Bih: No, bro. Y'all see this one. Hey next up because this was two talking about that We've been we can't say somebody benefited the doubt because who they are and what the paper the paperwork say this nigga Identified somebody and I can come back to you and be like a to I didn't do it Well see niggas this what the paperwork say and based on paperwork that has ruined a lot of people We've been calling T. I snitch and the nigga didn't even see change I did a commercial for crime stoppers and we got almost bitch It's black and white

Phone Home: bit.

The Iron Fist: What you mean?

Big: I say he didn't snitch. So that's three on three.

3eezy Bih: It's that simple, It's the fuck it is, bro! ⁓

Big: I don't think it's black and white. I think it's situational. I think it's circumstantial. And it just depends. It's great, mean. So we got three versus three. So our fans will have to settle the risk.

2: NNNN Alright. That can put in the comments. I want to get to the ice w-

Phone Home: So, ⁓ you gotta, you gotta, hey, let's, let's, let's get this point out, man.

3eezy Bih: No, I would take, I would take T-Wheels. Go ahead, go ahead.

2: I want smooth to get to this point. I think willy-o later. No boy will have been running with this point for as long as I know him, which I agree with him on the front end. But it's like, nah, we keep seeing different situations where is this simply not true? These, these are corporate men, businessmen. The streets don't blend in with the industry, but she. From what I see, I think you're wrong.

The Iron Fist: How though? Because anytime you see the streets in the corporate world blend, it never pans out. One way or another. It never works.

2: How...how about a billion?

Big: If

Phone Home: I don't pay it out. Why don't pay it out?

The Iron Fist: because the streets in the corporate world don't mix.

Phone Home: So that you answering your question

The Iron Fist: But I know but but y'all say it's like y'all dispute what I'm saying

Big: But he's saying you have to choose a side. And he says Gucci man chose to be a businessman. I understand what T-Will's saying.

2: No, I don't think that I don't think his his POV ends or stops or with Gucci It just in general that says POV on that Once you get an industry, you just gotta stop being straight, but I don't think niggas ever do that

The Iron Fist: But what I'm saying is they feel they

Big: You can't say hoes, you can't say hoes

Phone Home: Hold on, hold on, bro. You gotta let niggas get their shit out, bro.

The Iron Fist: What I'm saying is they fail to realize that you're not in the streets anymore and they still try to treat music like it's the streets when you can't bring that world into and you're a corporate business person. Whether you're fresh off the block now, once you sign that contract, this is your job. You represent a company, ⁓ a multi-million dollar company and they're investing in you to put your music out. So when you start trying to bring that street stuff,

Big: Okay, okay.

3eezy Bih: So just need.

The Iron Fist: That's why you see everybody who do it in one way or another, they get their arm twisted. Name me one person who was successful, who was pushing the streets their whole career and didn't get their arm twisted not one time. Name me one person.

3eezy Bih: So good to meet you.

2: I- Anyway, but look though!

3eezy Bih: So here's me. So he a sneece, that's what you see. Is that what you're saying he a sneece?

2: But then, no, no, we're not even talking.

3eezy Bih: You seen his niche name,

The Iron Fist: No, I'm just saying streets does not mix with the business world even if it's rap.

Big: No, he's saying he's not.

3eezy Bih: No, no, at the end of the, no, I'm trying to tell y'all. My bad, let me get this point. Let me get this point. This is all I'm saying, bro. That's what I be trying to tell y'all when y'all be trying to tell, is it streets or is it regular business dude or is it a woman kid? At the end of the day, bro, it doesn't matter. You snitched. That's what I'm, y'all keep trying to make all these different stipulations, bro. If Smoove ain't never been a thug, I ain't never been a thug, but if we get-

Phone Home: Let respond.

2: ⁓ go ahead.

3eezy Bih: told on somebody we consider her snitch. a old, jeezy, jeezy, jeezy. Three in the morning, take your old ass to sleep. Third time she done called the police this week. That old bitch want no gangster, dog. She just an old bitch. And we still say she say snitch. So it doesn't matter what you are in. People just say, hey, you snitching. You're tattletaling. You snitching. No, it's not, God damn it, man. Go to the pool, shawty.

Phone Home: Hello.

The Iron Fist: this week.

2: Peace.

Big: I think it's perception.

2: Let me, me, let let me finish this one. Yeah, all right, cool. like, oh, damn, I forgot what I was saying. Oh, but all right, cool. I just think that, all right, let me loop in my main point from it then, forgot what I was saying, but crime shouldn't happen. Crime should happen in general at all, We gotta stop saying this, just this street shit. Da da da.

Phone Home: Let's go get this point off.

Big: Go ahead, too.

3eezy Bih: My bad,

2: Motherfuckers from from a home improvement not home improvement for house Motherfuckers gonna always be in the rules or bring like no saying they pass access into it. You know the mom to find my mother for house What they do pull a little scheme to get their kids in the college mother fuckers could have paid for it Motherfuckers gonna always bring what they know To the use put their best foot forward. I think it's just that uh when it's

3eezy Bih: Dave.

2: Niggas we just want to say this three shit, but shit niggas niggas using exactly what they got signed for Pooch actually came in the door. shit. Nah, man. He could have sound when it's from Memphis Nah, he sound Gucci. He said okay another hood string. Okay, he gave me no I'm saying it then it's like the same since I guess ⁓ I want to go get say nothing wrong. It's my ties whatever but You see how I go when you don't? Shit. Somethin' that Lord can't get you out of no situation. That nigga Finesse, he still out here makin' videos. So what do do then when you can't get out? Like know what I'm sayin'? So it's like Poochie, see he like shit, man. Fuck it, I can't go for this. Nigga, he just, he, he.

Big: Mm-hmm.

The Iron Fist: But think about it, but exactly, hold on. To add what Darryl just said, y'all gotta realize Gucci probably discovered this dude at 2020. By 2021, he was locked up. He fulfilled from, who knows? They probably had a three album deal. I'm just making something up. He didn't even get a chance to fulfill his contractual agreements.

Big: You fulfill your contractual agreement. That's what you do.

The Iron Fist: So here you is three, four years later, you come home, you hide his fish grease and now, and I'm just thinking like an executive. And I got this young guy in front of me saying, hey, I want to get out. And I'm not, you know, I don't, you know, I'm just thinking like that. I got this young guy in front of me. He's saying I won't release out of my contract. And I'm like, wait a minute. I just invested into you. you know, you ain't even, you ain't even, barely even really did anything before you left.

3eezy Bih: I'm trying to think. You like, you need to, you need to just come and you just need to come and you're going.

The Iron Fist: So like, I'm supposed to just, you know what saying? I'm just thinking about it like that. If I was a artist approaching my boss, basically that's what it is. And I'm trying to figure out how can I make this sweet for both of us because you can't just think you're just gonna just, that you're just gonna be scot-free and you ain't even get a chance to even start to fulfill your contractual agreement. You went to jail before, like when I just got you. So like, how does that work? Am I making sense?

3eezy Bih: It's true.

Big: Bye.

2: You know, you know, now you know, a poor guy at Plex, right?

The Iron Fist: Bruh, that don't matter. How many songs he put out though? If you got a deal, that's what it's called, ⁓ a deal. Most of time them guys sign up for three to five albums for, you know, and it probably got to stretch out so many years. So if ⁓ I come to you, I just signed you, and then not even a year later, you're already going to jail four to five years? Not to mention, how much money was you getting before I picked you up?

Big: It don't matter. He got five album deal. He got five more albums to put out. Yup. Yeah.

3eezy Bih: Why is it outside?

The Iron Fist: How much your shows was? How many records was you selling when you dropped? How many streams was you getting? Did I turn you up? That's what I'm thinking about.

Big: Right. Right.

Eric: you

2: What did not- What did back in blood do? Come on, gang. Did the same person that-

The Iron Fist: That's one song though bro, that's what I'm saying Exactly and we talk about one song you still if I signed you for five for five albums You think you think that one song is even if it's hot you think that one song fulfills our contractual agreements

Big: But that's after being signed to ⁓ 1017. You owe me five albums.

The Iron Fist: Come on man, it don't work like that man. It don't work like that. It don't work like that. You got one hot song?

Phone Home: think so,

Big: No, no, no, no. Now if you got a fine album deal, you might recoup. You might recoup. That way you can get some raw artists, but you ain't finished that. You ain't finished that deal. You ain't finished that deal. You got four more albums to drop.

2: What?

Phone Home: It does.

The Iron Fist: Come on man, it don't go like that.

3eezy Bih: Hold on, hold on, let me hear it smooth here. Let me hear your take to smooth, because I'm kind of confused on why you say that too. Why does that fulfill it?

The Iron Fist: Just like if you play football, let's-

Phone Home: Cause bagging blood almost diamond.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, but that's one side note.

The Iron Fist: That's one song!

Big: It don't matter.

Phone Home: Okay.

3eezy Bih: It's funny. I mean, I'm waiting for you to explain.

Phone Home: Bro, contract can be renegotiated. Just because you got a contract don't mean that it cannot be renegotiated. Okay, y'all keep talking about five albums. He had one fucking song that went diamond. Who gives a fuck about the five albums if you made 20-something million dollars on me already?

2: So do we, do we, do we respect gucci? Do we respect gucci? Go ahead.

The Iron Fist: It can.

Phone Home: This contract need to be renegotiated. Hold on, hold on. So you did, I went to jail for five years. You made all the money. I didn't get shit from it. You made all the money. ain't getting no show money, ain't getting nothing. You made all the money. It's not about who fault is it. What I'm telling you is any contract can be renegotiated. And if you deny me,

The Iron Fist: Brooke, you ain't even did nothing.

Big: But my thing is, you don't think Gucci wanted to renegotiate?

The Iron Fist: And whose fault is that? Whose fault is that you out there doing crime though?

2: They're doing crime.

Phone Home: of it being renegotiated and you a street nigga just like I'm a street nigga and you rob niggas it's facts that he used to rob niggas. It's facts. So I'm gonna and I know I can't I know you not gonna do this paperwork properly. Nigga I'm gonna approach you on some street shit. Now what's the I mean nigga it happened. What fuck you talking about?

Big: Alright. disagree.

The Iron Fist: It still don't work like that though.

Big: No, no, no. I disagree. I believe Gucci. Hold on, hold on, hold hold on. One thing about Gucci, man. One thing about Gucci, man. I'm going off history and I got to go off a nigga repertoire. I don't believe Gucci, man, no snitch. And I believe Gucci, man, is a honest record label owner and executive. He's like Master Pete. If a nigga won't, hold on, hold on. No, hold on, hold on. That's fine.

Eric: I'm sorry.

2: I'm show you, I'm gonna show you work like that.

Eric: I don't agree with what happened.

Phone Home: He just got robbed! What the fuck do you mean?

Big: That's fine, but Gucci man is known for letting niggas out of their contract, letting niggas buy theyself off their contract. I believe Poo Shice did one of... Yes. No, but he has let everybody out of their contract. Hold on, on, hold on, on. Hold on, let me get my point across. ding, let me get my point across. Okay, Gucci man, every artist Gucci man has ever had, he has always let them go. He signed y'all's... Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Scooter.

3eezy Bih: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, ⁓

Phone Home: He know, he know for late niggas who ain't doing shit out of they contract. has died with the jail, has died with the jail. Let's make that clear. Let's make that clear. Has died with the jail.

Big: No, no, I'ma give you examples of n****s that was hot. Young Scooter, he had Young Scooter, he had Young Scooter who would sign the future, he signed the Gucci man, and he didn't like the deal, he let Young Scooter out of the deal. He had Rallo, he didn't like what Rallo would, Rallo didn't like the deal, he let Rallo buy himself out. What I believe is Poo Shricer wanted that nigga to let him out free, cause, I made all this money for you. So you need to let me go. Gucci man said, nah, bro, we can renegotiate. I give you more money. But Poo Shricer wanted to sign the Gotti. He wanted to go sign with Gotti and he just wanted to be let go Scott free. And Gucci man ain't going for that. That ain't business. You got to pay your way out of this country.

3eezy Bih: Drama. Nah. Alright, girl. down. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, I mean, I ain't talking, the other stuff, I mean, could be true, could be not true. I'm just saying like, when you use this example of the artist, like Nicki Minaj was nowhere near Pooshiesty with these contracts. Young Thug was nowhere near, Young Thug was nowhere near, you gonna let me, you gonna let me paint that up? Young Thug was not, he was not Pooshiesty at that time with Gucci, bro.

Big: Yes, young thug, what's? ⁓ my God.

Phone Home: Let him get his shit off, bro. Let him get his shit off, man.

3eezy Bih: What talking about? Was your thug a Poocheyste of the caliber of what Poocheyste was now?

Phone Home: You said you're a scooter.

Big: Yes, young thug had um, young thug had almost stolen and he had um, what was that other mother? Man, young thug had some fucking hits and then um, and then we got young scooter Columbia That nigga let young scooter go after Columbia

The Iron Fist: I remember that, I remember that. T is just a little of that song.

3eezy Bih: nigga columbia was nowhere near a poo shite bro come on bro columbia was nowhere near what poo shite was bro

The Iron Fist: Tiz used to love that song.

Big: It's because of the timing. It's because of the timing. But Columbia, from an independent artist, Poo Shryce was independent.

3eezy Bih: What you mean is that I'm not, I'm not, bro, I'm not here for hypotheticals. I don't care about timing. I'm telling you what it was. They were not, I love you.

2: I think you answered your own question.

Big: But, but, hold on, hold hold hold on. So, so, so, so, we cannot negate the fact. Nobody on this podcast can negate the fact. Gucci man has let everybody out of they deal. Migos, he let, yump up. Scooter, Rhylo, the biggest street niggas in Atlanta. He let all these niggas out they deal, let them pay they self out. Gucci Mane is known for letting niggas out of they deal. That's what he does. He let niggas who even owe him, you go head on bro. Niggas who owe him money, you go head on bro. But with Pooh Shiesty, he got a major hit. He trying to, he wanna kick Pooh. He said, I got big plans for Pooh. He probably, he... Gucci man a nigga, he'll give you more money. He'll give you more money. Or if you want to be bought out your deal, he probably gonna want 10 million. Cause he know what the Gotti gonna make. And Gotti probably ain't willing to pay that nigga 10 million. You gotta pay 10 million plus give Pooch Ice to another five or 10. So that's a 20 million dollar nigga ain't finna buy him out the country.

2: Let me add this though. You. I, I dare you know, you know Gucci denounced the whole 10 17 that Sicy was signed to while Sicy was locked up and he started to hold new.

Big: Right, I know that. And the only two artists he kept was who?

The Iron Fist: Gujiano and Poo

2: Pooh was locked up.

The Iron Fist: Right. He wanted to keep new.

Big: But he wanted to keep them too.

The Iron Fist: just think, all I'm saying is listen, I just think that to me, I just think it makes sense if I'm thinking about it like from, I try to think about it from both sides. If I think about it from Gucci's side, to me it makes sense why he would say, nah, I can't just let you go like that bro. Or we can talk about it. Or you know what I'm saying? I'm not even saying that he was trying to out gangster him or nothing. But to me, if it just make business sense that man.

2: Just like me, like bro, you can't change the architect while I'm in prison, nigga.

The Iron Fist: Dang bro, like I'm just think I'm just think if I try to school my young and if I got him sign I'm like dang bro I just like when we was doing it before you went in like bro You you weren't even out like nine ten months you had one hit then you went in and now you talking about Nah, bro. We got to talk about that. You know what saying? I can't just let you go We you know I'm saying how can we make it sweet for both of us then you know what I'm saying? That's that's how I'll probably try to come at it like that. You know what mean? I'm not Gucci. Huh? Go ahead. Good

Big: Right.

2: But, but work. But, I, Willie, alright, cool. Let's take this point, cause I think you'll respect this. It will say it like, talk some head. Cool, I admit. Let's make it make sense. ⁓ nah, let me, shit. I'ma keep the, I'ma keep, huh?

Phone Home: Right, right. Niggas just, two, two, me interrupt you. Two, let me interrupt you. Niggas just acting like he just got the dish from square one. Like he just went from boom, boom. You know what I'm saying? Like, you got it, two. You got it, two.

The Iron Fist: And as far as you see, that's That's nothing. We don't know what the middle we don't know what happened in the middle

2: Yeah, it had like, I could...

Big: where it was though but I'm gonna let you go too.

Phone Home: Let you finish, man, let you finish.

2: Now it's like, you what I'm you did give them the opportunity, let's keep it solid. You what I'm saying? They just readjust some shit. Shit, tell you what, I don't got to. And you winning, you overly winning, can't show love like, bro, shit. Come on.

The Iron Fist: ⁓ I'm your boss basically bro. Like it don't go like if you sign for a certain amount like just like just like hold on Just like when you got hired at your job, they probably slide a piece of paper say these are terms. These are conditions It's like that's what you agree to at your job And you can and you can and I'm not definitely and I'm not and I'm not disputing it but your job don't have to renegotiate either if

2: If it

Big: Right.

Phone Home: then you can renegotiate that.

Big: Right, and Gucci don't have to renegotiate.

2: Nah bro, you can read those. If I sell cars bro, if I sell kept cars I need me to sell five a month, five to ten a month. If I come in there start selling three to five a day, man we, man nigga, put me a mayonnaise sandwich on the motherfucking table, we better start talking about some shit bro. I don't like, come on now.

Big: But. But but but two, two, two, we don't have to. I don't have to renegotiate, but guess what? Okay, you wanna renegotiate? You here for how many years? You here for five albums? Give me three more albums. Give me eight albums. And then I give you another advance on your money. Niggas don't wanna do that. Okay, you wanna go sign the guide and tell God I need 15 million. God ain't gonna do that. So now I'm too shy to say in a situation where I gotta put this pole on this nigga.

Phone Home: And then look, think about this.

The Iron Fist: Or even if you look If you look at it from an artist side or this high probably would and I don't want I hate saying this how I would have did it because I don't know all the Particular's in the middle that made these people go to the extreme that they go to But suppose like if I'm coming to Gucci and he say dang dang two wheels I can't do that. I you just got out you owe me this well, and I put this much into you Remember now you wouldn't as turned up until you got with me and I say, okay, let's do it like this here suppose I do one or two albums I drop the first album and you already know he was gonna be hot whenever that album dropped. Perhaps he could have leverage to go to other labels and say, listen, this is what I'm doing. Do you guys think you can buy me out of my contract perhaps? Maybe it's other, and I don't know, maybe that's one way that I think that you could have played it. You can see how valuable I am. I'm just thinking if I'm the artist and I wanna get out of this contract and I wanna get with Gotti.

Phone Home: I'm a student.

The Iron Fist: I dropped my album, I know it's hot, they, they, they, my FDO, whatever that song was, it's going up. And I say, okay, look at my album numbers. I'm going to, Def Jam. I'm just making something up. And I say, listen, this is what I did on my last album. Now, ⁓ my boss, my CEO, he's not gonna let me go. He's not, he's saying he's not gonna let me go, but y'all guys see how valuable, how profitable I am. Look at my streams. Look at my YouTube, my millions that I'm doing YouTube. I was wondering if, you know, I'm wanna see if, can you guys possibly buy me out of this contract and you and I carry on? And then we go from there, you know what I'm saying? To see if that could work possibly.

3eezy Bih: you.

2: Hehehe. From a big third of the saying it like that's it. He ain't really been strong love

Phone Home: Well, I want to say this. I want to say this. Yeah, this what I want to say too. So, so this what I'm saying. Like bro, first day out came out what about six months ago, six, eight months ago, like this. Oh, I think this is where the real nice. It ain't come out of no January. I think this is what a real issue is, is that first day out came out and apparently like that song was really big and then the game dropped no music.

Big: Yeah, I'm like Janeway.

Phone Home: He ain't dropped the album, he ain't dropped the second single. Like it's nothing behind it. So I think that's what a real issue is, is that either February wins.

3eezy Bih: That bit came out of the paperwork. Say favorite word in field 2021? I mean, hold on, what the fuck?

The Iron Fist: ⁓ wait.

2: Thanks.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, please.

Phone Home: It's about 15 first day out.

3eezy Bih: I'll see you, Bob. I'll see you, Bob. I'm sorry. I'll see you.

Big: MDO, put MDO. ⁓

2: You and then talk my teeth really.

3eezy Bih: That's okay.

Phone Home: But yeah, think that's what the problem is, bro. I think it's either Gucci wasn't allowing the music to come out or Poo Siesty, he didn't want to put more music out because the nigga came out on fire. So why not hit the ground running? And that's why I think the tension was, Because how do you...

Big: I'm tired.

3eezy Bih: Thank you.

2: Fire.

Phone Home: How do you come out back in blood, then you get out of jail, first day out, everybody loved the song, but we don't got shit.

2: He didn't miss a step. Most time, most rappers miss a step. He didn't miss a step.

The Iron Fist: That's a fact. That's a fact. That's a fact.

Phone Home: He going crazy on the internet. Everybody fucking with him. The hoes love him.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, just do them.

2: He's straight,

Big: But MDO took a long time to come out too, because he was out already a month or two before that dropped. And I think what the issue is, was in the halfway house, but I think Poo Shiested went out of a deal because his cousin, Big Scar, when Big Scar died, when Big Scar died, it was a whole lot of commotion between Gucci and Poo Shiested's family about Gucci wanting the chain bags.

Phone Home: It came out of me. It came to be silver.

2: God bless you.

3eezy Bih: as it will.

Big: Gucci not helping with the funeral and they was arguing with pooch-ice and cousins now. And so all that got to do with him wanting to be out of the label.

Phone Home: Yo, and let's move to this on this next topic before Bill got to get off. You said you said 12 right Bill 11. I bet so on so real quick. know, all Charlamagne said something about a, know, meat mill ain't been the same since Drake and you know meat meal responded. So I kind of like want to get everybody a pin on you know how they feel about meat meal and I think built the biggest meat mill fan in here and kind of.

Eric: Yeah, yeah, let me out,

Phone Home: You know, so what you think, Bill?

3eezy Bih: Hey Bill, before you go, I remind them of the story too? Remember, it was so crazy before them boys got into a beat. This to your point Smooth. Right before them boys got into a beat drinking Meek Mill. That nigga, I think it was us three in the kitchen too. You remember that shit at Boywalk? And we were just talking about the hypothetical and that nigga Bill was like, Meek Mill is a kill drink. Oh man, he was a kill drink. We were like, bro, we don't know, bro. I think Drake.

2: Sarah O'Milly Yeah.

3eezy Bih: And then it's like, don't know how long, you know, it's a long go. I don't know how long it took for them words for him to eat. It was just like, God damn this nigga Bill Guy.

2: Drake heard it.

Phone Home: Yeah, we're a little Drake Hayden. We'll talk about that later.

2: I ran through it. I ran through the kitchen.

3eezy Bih: Anyway, I learned down the broadcast.

The Iron Fist: Bill put me on Drake.

Eric: I'm a really good because my algorithm don't even show me the bullshit that happened with me So y'all got to enlighten me what happened with me? is all the man say about me? I don't even know

Phone Home: ⁓ God.

3eezy Bih: Thank Niggas at my Agarilla, like he didn't get that nigga whole breakdown.

2: Rasaab and Kenzie's out the mug!

Phone Home: you Shit, what you think? What you think, too?

3eezy Bih: Lick it up, Bill.

Eric: Alright, hold up.

2: Asshet gbt. ⁓ what the heck but now honestly though, I feel like

Phone Home: I mean, you really could have just answered the question for real.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, I said you really have no going on. Do you think he's been the same?

2: Shit ⁓ now Fred. ⁓ I don't think meat has been the same sense Well, I ain't gonna lie to you he wasn't the same but I think they are a minute a minute to like to be for whatever with championships And it was smooth. It smooth, but I think meat went on like another Ranch and shit outside of it. So it's like damn. ⁓ man. We knew you from then

3eezy Bih: Thank

Big: That's it.

2: That one little time span when he was doing that shit with Drake, people started paying attention. Then once when he did it again after Drake, that's when it's like, okay, now he become a butt of jokes that not necessarily own him or whatever. But he does say some shit like, yeah, damn me. So, but I don't think he ever bounce back like, rapper wise, even the song with him on Friday, I think that's the only notable song within the past five years for longer, maybe.

3eezy Bih: Thank No, he had the one with Uzi. Blue notes. mean, what it called?

Eric: ⁓

2: Bye.

Eric: Yeah, that ain't a big.

2: Damn. That one, the other one. That's crazy.

3eezy Bih: Yeah. We slide, we slide, we on the. I mean, of course it wasn't as big as the one with Friday, I'm making your point. I'm making your point,

2: He probably hit a five.

Big: It's perfect.

2: He probably has one song in here.

Eric: Meek my boy, hey, I just read that. just read that. Meek, realistically, Meek ain't been the same since him and Drake beef. And the music ain't been that, honestly, ain't been that much different. Like he still got good songs, still got good music. just public perception is everything. He be on memes, getting hugged at Rick Rubin, Mike Rubin. Party.

Big: At Diddy parties and shit. Diddy calling nigga daddy and shit. Like, nah.

3eezy Bih: Okay.

Eric: But then look, quietly, quietly, quietly. It did, yeah, right. I think about that. But then, here we go though. I expected Meek to handle that battle different. Man, I thought Meek was gonna have clips ready for anybody who wanted it. It did take him a long time to respond. The response was weak.

3eezy Bih: Nah, that was gonna be my point if I went, but, right.

Eric: And then, you know, Drake kind of called out the stuff with him and Nicky. It just played out bad for Meek. So battle wise, the songs wasn't better than Drake's songs. Execution was poor. And then his public perception and how he's maneuvered since the beef ain't helped him at all either. With the rants that he's done, it's like, nah, man, Meek. And I still love Meek. I still bump Meek a lot. You know, I think that championship album was I think it's probably one of the best out one of the best rap albums that came out arguably within the last this during the Decade or whatever arguably so ⁓ But he just ain't he bounced back his public perception a tarnished his Going to them damn party and that's what these niggas these niggas gotta stop going these Hollywood parties because Man like bro like little baby meat meal

Phone Home: Classy. Classy. Yeah.

Big: Bye.

Eric: They look goofy at them parties, bro. Like you can't be claiming you in the trenches and running the streets and you just, don't mix, bro. You look goofy as hell at them parties. And then you can't, I can't see you at a party, an all white party with Mike Rubin hugging and laughing and cracking jokes and like you doing a showing all 32 smile. And then you back in Philly with Nappy Braids rapping again, bro. I don't respect it.

Phone Home: next time.

Big: Okay. Thank you.

Eric: You know, same with me, same with Lil Baby. You know, so I know that's a topic that we're going to go on too, but I don't not that. Yeah, nah, short answer, Meek Mill ain't recovered.

2: I f*** up baby, but yeah.

Phone Home: there.

Big: We know that after that, hell, my hand recovered. And he not as calculated either. I ain't think Meek Mill could be Drake. Cause he ain't no seem like no smart. And he seem like a dumb little nigga to me. Like nigga fumbled Nicky, nigga fumbled the beef. Like that nigga had a layup, that nigga fumbled everything. God damn, what?

Eric: Damn, if that nigga downjacked one new bomb after another, I'm die!

2: You

3eezy Bih: You

Phone Home: Hey, you're right. Linger lose it. Hey, but look, but look down to even add on to that point. Like, you know, see, he lost the relationship with Drake. He lost the relationship with that whole, that whole ecosystem.

2: Lazy Hamill.

Big: Yeah, like, and then I think he lost, he didn't lose his deal. Yep. Yep. And then after he left Ross, I think Ross was really putting a lot of, like, you know, time and effort behind me. And after he lost that deal, nobody who really supported me, like, as far as label-wise.

Phone Home: MMG! MMG! MMG lost that whole ecosystem. You know? Yeah, I think I always, always tell these dudes, I think that jail saved me career, honestly. You know, cause after the Drake beef, it was done. And then he went to jail, everybody got on, you know, got behind him, Jay Z, you know, everybody fighting for his rights and then boom, he dropped championships, you know? And then so like it just, everything was back. And then he slowly but slowly like.

Big: Yeah.

Eric: Yep.

Big: I don't know how he fell off from that.

Phone Home: But it go back to what y'all were saying the tweets the rants the parties, know, you know, it's just

3eezy Bih: David's here.

Big: Yeah.

2: Yeah, that's what BB King freestyle came out, right?

Eric: And then he somewhat fumbled that relationship with Hov, I heard, because I heard that relationship. Like, I think Hov has a slick way of throwing subliminals, but like, in a love way. He was like, you know, I can't beef with her. can't. Me and me can never beef. I freed this nigga from a hov bid. Hov did. You know what mean? That's just like, so I think, I don't think that line was not for the public, but it was directed right at me.

Big: Mmm.

Eric: You know what I mean? Like, bro, come on, bro. So.

Phone Home: Yeah, and then you think about, you know, you know, just man, him losing Nicki Minaj and then like when she started beefing with Remy Ma and he, you know, kind of like was on Remy Ma side, you know, so he just looked like a slime ball out here, man. deuces. Oh, deuces.

Big: crazy bro i don't know how he fumbled nicky cuz nicky like street niggas bro i don't know how he fumbled that like god damn

2: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: you

2: And this had a song with Nikki Chris Brown on come on, man

Eric: But you know what, me, man, me, I still fuck with me the long way because I think like, I me too.

Phone Home: That nigga, that nigga, that nigga meek is Lamar from BML.

2: Peace.

Eric: Ha ha ha!

The Iron Fist: Hehehehehe

Phone Home: Like, he want to be a part of the group, but he just so irrational. He just...

3eezy Bih: Thank

Eric: And that was the drugs bro, let me you though. Let me tell you I fuck with So our bro last time we all went to Miami smooth me you tears Dread ⁓ Eddie all of us is in Miami. But do you remember we seen me or riding down ocean dry? in a fan and I was just like I ain't never bro. It's it's fucking core memories that happened in my life, bro.

Phone Home: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Yeah.

Eric: For me, that was one of them. That nigga looked like a motherfucking baller, bro, coming down Ocean Drive. And it was just like, damn, bro, niggas is really out here getting it. And that nigga motivated me on a different level when I seen that nigga coming through like that. So I hate that he doing all this lame shit and all this stuff happening to me because I really think me, you can tell he went from the trenches for real. He ain't faking nothing.

The Iron Fist: on the sea.

Eric: You know what mean? Like he's just a hood nigga who just like who be just doing hood nigga erratic shit.

Phone Home: But that's what 2 say, 2 always said that, you know, like, Meek Mill was, he's a rapper's rapper. Like, he was supposed to be that, a part of that lineage, you know what I'm saying?

The Iron Fist: Right, right, he always say it did.

Eric: Right. Right. Right.

2: For sure for sure right, but he didn't make it a like especially when he was in there he was on his up words bro it's like bro mind you drink my favorite rapper but but this prior beef and all that on his way up that's like man now he do rap rap it he look like it cold Drake Kendrick don't look like it the way he do like the way he had a young boys they fuck with him because no I'm saying understood it he was doing it he was out the way but still outside you know I'm saying we're doing the lame shit for real it's like it just made you proud he also was telling motherfuckers he's he'll he'll he'll never tell nigga

3eezy Bih: Thank

Big: Goodbye.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm.

Eric: Looking like. Looking like.

The Iron Fist: Right, right. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

2: Go crash out no type shit like that. You know what I'm saying? It just it was just a feel-good story up from a hood nigga Danny just seemed like just like you looked up one day All this shit just start watching whites. Damn. That's why I feel bad So I think that's we don't even talk about other things that do shit like that We do we talk about me like that cuz meek was the one

Eric: Yeah. Yeah.

3eezy Bih: Thank

Eric: Bro, you up? Right, question though, they say money is the hardest thing to keep nowadays, right? I mean, they say money is the hardest thing to keep once you get it. But I think now it's more so like keeping a positive public perception. It's the hardest thing. It's hard to keep a positive image nowadays and to sustain that. I don't know, like, and that's maybe a question for our audience. Like, man, is it harder to...

2: your image.

Big: Mm-hmm.

Eric: Smooth, look like you're about to say something. Oh, is it harder to sustain money or is it harder to sustain positive public image in today's climate of social media? I personally think it's public image.

Phone Home: shit, you got it, bro.

The Iron Fist: think so too. I think so too. Especially when you got, when you under the microscope, you, know, living life under the microscope. And I think it'd probably be even harder if you a child growing up, like, let's just say like a Bow Wow, making that transition from a young child star to becoming an adult. You know what I'm saying? So it, I don't know if that makes sense, you know, but I think, you know,

2: I think Ebenezer, I think easily Ebenezer.

The Iron Fist: We met Bow Wow as a young child. So a lot of times when you making that transition into adulthood, sometimes people still pigeonhole you to where you was when you was a child. Like none of us was like, you know, doing, you know, you know what saying? He grow, you grow up, but then they're like, ⁓ nigga, that's Bow Wow. Like, like, like I can't explain it. Like they still try to, yeah, go ahead.

2: Okay. Okay. I can explain for you, ⁓ willio, ⁓ to span off your point. think by well at the moment, cause it was like, damn, cause Chris Brown had it. I let's not speak about that situation, but like Chris Brown had a bed, but like by all I had it like, cause he was the first one to do it for him to get grown. Like Nick, for the first time he cuts on the album. was like, Bob you know bye. Why are you he was he was holding up? He was like on the stage talking this shit from the jump He was a kid. He knows a shy kid nothing anything like that, but they're switch. Hey, man. I ain't 13 no more 18 I'm 21 like the same thing didn't stars go through whatever but it's Yeah, but I'm saying but it help you in the long run

Big: . you ⁓

3eezy Bih: Thank you for watching and day.

2: He had a long period of time to deal with it, but now he on the legacy tours because Bow Wow was a part of my youth. I was always gonna see Bow Wow, Pretty Ricky and all of them because they was a part of youth. know what I'm saying? The women I had from 20th, yeah, they always good, but some of them niggas, they're like, it's crazy, it work.

3eezy Bih: Thank

The Iron Fist: He gonna always be working.

Phone Home: Right, and let's start you.

2: Like it worked for some of other guys back in that time period, but now she acquired. So, but I think that's, that's the, I don't know, the mistaken, the beauty and the mystique of it.

Phone Home: Yes, so I guess so to that point, ⁓ know, the next topic, like, you know, ⁓ I heard country rain. He was saying like, you know, a lot of a lot of rappers that survive are hustlers. You know what I'm saying? And I was thinking about I was actually I had thought about this prior to, you know, seeing that clip. But I was like, damn, like you look at the baby versus little baby and like how, you know, like the baby kind of like, you know, he he went through this, you this public

3eezy Bih: I'll take it away.

Phone Home: Linching as well, you know, just like hell probably even worse than little baby, you know, but it's like he He just like he just been doing the music still, know saying just steady grinding, you know And it's like he's kind of coming back around in that sense of like, you know getting his groove back in the music and being like little baby He'd like he kind of like took the money. He took the brand and deals and like his his career might not ever be the same

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm. Definitely, I would say so. define.

3eezy Bih: in this next week.

Eric: Yeah. Yeah.

3eezy Bih: Well, but you say that. But hold on, but you say that smooth that he could really never be the same, though. You got the. If that's a good or bad thing, you got to see if that was his intentions. Like you said, yeah, because at first they're going even the rapper's rapper. So.

Big: I don't think the baby career be the same either.

Phone Home: Come on, baby. Look, I think. Well, that's true, but I think, I think now that's a very good point, you know, as far as life. Yeah, that's a very good point as far as life. But I think when you look at the trajectory that he had, and then when they like, you see, and everybody started taking those branding deals and going to those parties, like what Bill said about public perception, shit, that money ain't there no more. So even if you are a hustler, because your public perception is not the same, you're not doing what you used to do.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, they did say that, yeah. That's a good point.

3eezy Bih: All Yeah. Well, that's what I'm saying though. Like what was his intentions? And now we talking about the money ain't there.

Phone Home: See, as a hustler, your intention should be to run this shit up as far as you can go.

3eezy Bih: But he, what I'm saying though, once he hit that, you know, like, like to me, I understand why niggas don't be as good as they supposed to be like in the league or something. You know what saying? Cause I mean, look, I'm taking my folks. It's like, do I really care to put it like something like that would separate the difference between, you know, know, LeBron's, Kobe's all that shit. Because like, look, I'm good. I'm making millions. Like you really do. Like you really do.

Phone Home: Okay. It's 12.

The Iron Fist: Right, right, right. You gotta be a sociopath though. That goes back to why, that's why I think Drake, you know, I hate to bring him, but him, Kendrick, they are part of that elite. They are killers. You know I'm saying? They like a Kobe. You know what I'm saying? You got other, just like in rap, you got certain tiers. You might be the top guy, but then you got to the top of the top of the top guy. And that may be a Drake or something like that. And it's a different mindset that probably comes with, you know, that level of, you know, cause I also think about it. ⁓ one of y'all just mentioned how, you know, baby was taking the brand. I, I promised her, I went to Gulf shores one time. We was just like on a little mini vacation. looked up, I seen little baby ⁓ an ax on an ax commercial. I mean, not an ax commercial on an ax on a little ax cardboard thing, you know, selling ax spray. But I was like, you'll never see Drake doing that. You know what I'm saying? ⁓ that's the reason why.

Phone Home: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Right.

The Iron Fist: That's the reason why I think he's the one of the few that has been able to ascend the way that he has because he keeps the main thing the main thing, you know what mean? And the most artists who keep the main thing the main thing, they always go up higher than everybody else. Peace out, Bill.

Eric: And I

Phone Home: thousand percent. I did. Right.

3eezy Bih: All right, What you mean? What you mean you wanna see Jerry doing that?

Eric: No,

2: Kapo!

Eric: All right.

The Iron Fist: Is that it again?

3eezy Bih: Do I got commercials? What do you

The Iron Fist: he might do like the sprite commercial, but I'm saying though he don't he don't dabble all the way into other things

Phone Home: Properly place branding. Properly place branding.

Big: Right cuz Sprite Sprite way bigger than X

The Iron Fist: He is is it's not the same

2: Thanks.

3eezy Bih: What I'm saying though, but Drake is also way bigger than the baby.

Phone Home: Well now, Sprite was early on.

The Iron Fist: Ex- but see, but what I'm saying is...

Big: Look,

3eezy Bih: Little baby, yeah, little baby. So, that's what I'm saying, it ain't...

The Iron Fist: But what I'm saying is Drake.

Big: But at that time, I get what it

3eezy Bih: And then, then you got to, and then you got to think about it. Like I don't wear like a pair and Drake and Lil Baby and stuff because that's too big. Well, I know you're not, but I'm saying that we can't, we can't, Drake is a whole different type of breed because his saying, his saying scrutiny is what also propels him to like him being mixed and be able to talk about everything actually do propels him. Like.

The Iron Fist: I just think... ⁓ I'm not really, I didn't mean to do that. was, yeah, yeah. Mm-hmm.

3eezy Bih: with debate with Lil Baby, Lil Baby, like you're really account of just one lane. Like you see what I'm saying? Like I'm most of the Lil Baby music is going to be consumed by, you know, a thug, like I ain't gonna say a thug, but like what I take me what we like, where Drake gonna reach the masses. Like Lil Baby doing a song like a, ⁓ the bad thing, like his perception don't look way worse than a Drake doing it. Drake and Drake, either you call it affordability or whatever you want. He can do both of them. And we're not gonna look at Drake in no certain type of way because it's like Drake and Dabba in gangsta music. That's why some people call him Coach Vulture. He can dab in this music, but he can dab in that music. So he got avenues that he can take without taking a punch to taking a hit to his perception.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm.

3eezy Bih: So that's why I don't like when people mention like the Drakes because he can, mean, whether you want to take this line wrong or right, he can play both sides of the fence. He really can. He can really say, he can go to the hood, say nigga, and go to the white man and say, boy, these niggas. Like he really can't. mean, take it how you want to take it. He really can't. I mean, I know guys like that now. I mean, it is what it is. So he can make music for more than everybody. So that's why I don't like to compare that.

The Iron Fist: Yeah.

Big: You

The Iron Fist: was just more... When I was comparing the two, was just more saying that Drake more focused on his music career than jumping out, than going into brands and stuff like that. For instance, know. And ⁓ this ain't a shot at y'all boy nothing, but like Jack Harlow. when his trajectory, or I'm say when I kinda started noticing him.

2: Favorite line obviously, take your white boys

Phone Home: Right.

2: For sure.

The Iron Fist: That's when he kind of pivoted into the movie, White Man Can't Jump. You know what I'm saying? that put me, know, that's, you know what I'm saying? So like, and there's nothing wrong with that. Don't get me wrong. I'm not hating on that. I'm just saying that it is, you kind of see the difference of where artists end up when you see certain artists who just focus, just be locked in on the music. And when they locked in on the music, they get different results than anybody else who's doing branding deals and stuff like that.

Phone Home: all of the commercials and all that type of

3eezy Bih: I still think that's unfair too though. And I'm gonna make my point for the other boys. I still think that's unfair because it's like you say, it's the timing, the time. Like the time when Drake came out, that distraction wasn't there. Like he came at the hints of the top of social media. So it was easy to stay focused on the main thing, the main thing. But when you told I can be a rapper, this go for you too. Why you love to rap, right?

The Iron Fist: Why? I mean... Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

3eezy Bih: If a nigga like Axe, a nigga like fucking McDonald's, all these people come to you and say, hey, look, I got this brand deal, brand deal, but ain't you doing that? You gon' take this.

The Iron Fist: And I'm not saying, don't get me wrong, I can honestly see how one could meet a dilemma where, know, like, dang, I'm here because of the music, but you got these other deals that wanna invest in you, and plus you coming from, you know, a small town, whatever the case may be, you gonna wanna be in on that. So I'm not knocking them from that. I'm just saying that maybe sometimes, I don't know Drake's business, but it seems like,

Big: you

3eezy Bih: Right.

The Iron Fist: He seems like he sacrificed short-term things. He sacrificed short-term things to play the long game is what it looks like, is what it looks like.

Big: you ⁓

Phone Home: You gotta match the brain. Whatever you do, you gotta match the brain.

2: Okay.

3eezy Bih: know, Ludacris kind of alluded to that, in a way that we speak and he was more of a... Well, yeah, but he didn't mind it though, because even on the song, who was that with Tia? It's a rapper coming from Rappers Winning Grammys, the Rappers Winning Oscars. What song was that Tia? I mean, I know what song it was.

Phone Home: That Fast and Furious shit fucked up his career.

2: No.

The Iron Fist: That's ⁓ I used to sing ⁓ know, yeah, yeah, that's it

2: It's on top of the world.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, so he kind of alluded to too. Like, see, that one word with rabbit winning Grammys and rabbit winning offices.

Phone Home: But nah, that point kinda helped Willie your point because, yeah, all them niggas do that shit.

2: That's it.

3eezy Bih: ⁓ I agree with William. I agree with William. I'm just telling you how hard it is to deny that shit.

2: Yeah, I I Think I think Harlow Harlow always say he come from the school of Drake and baby say I would say how Influential like Drake would to his career. So it's kind of like damn, bro No, all right knowing he moved his way. It's like damn What the fuck do you take he to and I get it I get it in the moment when you doing it was like damn when it's getting kind of stale for you Then what you know I'm saying so it's like I think

Phone Home: If you'll make it, if you'll make it, you'll make

The Iron Fist: And to me it's hard for you to come back from that though.

Phone Home: But the thing about it was the damn niggas weren't following that shit up with music, know saying like they wouldn't Yeah

3eezy Bih: Yeah, that's the issue. I don't think the brand is, I don't think the brand has got nothing to do the problem.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm.

2: No, that's what I'm saying. Like they took that. don't think, but I think, I think baby, but I think baby, little baby and Jack Harlow had a luxury that most rappers don't have, especially not these new rappers like the G, A like, no.

The Iron Fist: That's why I say Drake kept the main thing the main thing.

Big: Jack Harlow ain't got that damn luxury. He that big.

3eezy Bih: What luxury do you

2: He had a number one hit on he had a number one hit on ⁓ no, ⁓ no, ⁓

Phone Home: He got like two diamond songs, three diamond songs.

3eezy Bih: Yeah, Jack Harlow was.

Big: Post Malone do too.

Phone Home: to see Post Malone out here.

2: Meadow.

Big: Nah, but I'm talking about like, as far as the hip hop, like, niggas ain't out of here. Yeah. But I think, I don't know. I just, I agree with Willie was saying, but I feel like Lil Baby never had it to begin with though. I feel like people just liked him because he was that guy. He was the cool guy on the block and he had gone on writing for him and shit. So he learned how, yeah.

Phone Home: Okay. You see soda in the movie. You see definitely soda in the movie.

3eezy Bih: Well, yeah, hey, there, so that was to my point. That was to my point earlier with too, like, I mean, or too was, I was like, I don't know if that was his really, I think those intentions came as he was growing. I don't think it was just like, you know, ⁓ shit, yeah, like I'm that guy now, like, but I don't think his main thing was the main thing, like a drink. ⁓

Phone Home: Yeah, they deaf.

2: What's it, buddy?

Big: Is this a story?

Phone Home: Oh no man. I mean my turn is like Diamond Dome.

2: Baby was that man? Baby was, nate swine.

3eezy Bih: No, my chair wasn't a Mr. Allen L, but that's a classic.

Phone Home: Right, I'm just saying so like how do you not like, you know, like want to keep going down that path?

Big: I think it was just a moment, it's hard to top. I think that was his peak. That was just his peak.

3eezy Bih: I don't think they're wrong, too. I mean, some people argue that 50 cents still ain't got me to get rich. That's tough.

Big: He has!

Phone Home: What? But nah, nah, nah, nah. But no, Cent, hold on, hold on, hold on. But 50 Cent and Lil Baby, that's like the perfect example. That's the perfect example. That's a perfect example because 50 Cent, he started doing movies, he started doing all this other shit. He stopped caring about the music. You know, that's a perfect example.

The Iron Fist: mean, but it's hard to redo that though.

2: Ay! I say that's a good point date. Good point date.

Big: Yeah. He wanted that plenty. I think I want to damn plenty.

3eezy Bih: I mean, we're getting paid, but ⁓

The Iron Fist: Yeah. Yeah.

2: Because, after you drop a-

The Iron Fist: I mean, but he probably, gotta think though, he probably, it was a different time period back then as well. Like them boys' was very limited. So they basically had to, they basically had to learn other skills after your third or fifth, your three to five albums, people was kind of tired of you at that point, or you just kind of faded in the back. That's why I think it's so, wait, say that again.

2: We're getting off the first album though. We took my first album, we took my fifth, give or take, try and my turn. You ain't tired. You just like seeing, oh shit, how the plane gonna go up?

3eezy Bih: Yeah, you want want tired to figure out to get rid of that track and that why the basket is.

The Iron Fist: No, yeah, yeah, that's a fact. Yeah, that's a fact.

2: And that's why when my turn dropped, motherfuckers saying baby was the next Wayne.

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm That was ridiculous from the beginning that was ridiculous. That was ridiculous from the beginning

3eezy Bih: No, people weren't saying that. No, no, no, no, baby says that. Little baby says that. People weren't saying that. Who?

Phone Home: to.

Big: I knew that shit was going down the drain.

2: No, baby, said it. Baby, no, said it.

Phone Home: I said that.

The Iron Fist: Now that was just ridiculous to me.

2: I said to him, how was it?

Big: Look, but I knew that was fake. just knew people, because I knew it sounded the same. He just shouldn't switched up his style.

3eezy Bih: Teeth or what's his name?

Phone Home: Yo, yo.

2: bro in that in that moment bro you can't look you love saying that moment went in that moment man baby was like ⁓ shit what

3eezy Bih: I but I don't do that again.

Phone Home: It's all about the moment, right? Yeah. In that moment, I mean, in that moment, that nigga Future Run was no different from Lane Future Run. It wasn't.

3eezy Bih: No, I'm saying that he was a next-look Wayne. His feature role was good. His feature role was crazy.

Phone Home: Yeah, but I'm saying though, what me and 2CN is, the comparables were like kinda adding up. You got My Turn, Platinum album, you got Hot Mix tapes, you got the features, it was all adding up. It was only a two year run, but in that period, you could see it, you could feel it. And then she-

3eezy Bih: was thinking, what happened to you, baby?

2: You can compare his two rounds to anybody's. ⁓

Phone Home: We're the hottest in heaven!

3eezy Bih: I guess when you say hot mix take, I think I was comparing it to like No Sillas. I'm like, he had a No Sillas?

The Iron Fist: He some hot music though, he really did.

Phone Home: Nigger, his mixtape was going crazy. Harder than that. All them shit was like, hold down, more hard. Like, them shit harder.

Big: while all that shit was droppin'.

2: negative.

3eezy Bih: Yeah. No, no, no. I'm saying, I know that you're not lying about that.

2: Nigga freestyle? It's out of my labor that's me.

Big: Freestyle probably is the hardest one. And then him and Gunnar dropped that album together. That bitch was fired.

3eezy Bih: You're not lying about that smooth. But when I heard you was saying, look, that's what I put in my head. I oh shit, this nigga had no feelings. That's what I'm saying. Like he had a drought three, yeah, his shit was, but to be honest though, mixed tastes came before my turn right. Yeah, so that's what I'm saying. To call himself the next.

2: He did.

Phone Home: Right, that's what I'm saying.

The Iron Fist: Yeah.

Big: Right. It's the build up to the two year run. It's the build up to the two year run.

Phone Home: But he had...

The Iron Fist: He building, yeah, he build it. It was a build up, yeah.

Phone Home: Yeah, right, right, right. And then that feature run was crazy. That feature run, we might not ever see a feature run like that again, bro. We might not ever see a run.

Big: My dogs, even you told me before that, my dogs.

The Iron Fist: I love that verse he put on that DJ Khaled song with him and Dirk. You got what I'm talking about?

3eezy Bih: Yeah, that's him crazy.

Phone Home: Yeah, every chance I get.

Big: Yeah.

2: Give it a chance, I get it.

The Iron Fist: Yeah, man, he killed it. I love that. I love that verse

Phone Home: Yeah.

3eezy Bih: Nerd killed it, but he fucked up going last.

Big: But ain't it funny, ain't it funny the nigga who took the music to series is on top.

Phone Home: yeah, they're ⁓ ⁓ Yeah, that's true too. ⁓

3eezy Bih: What would you do with it?

Big: God. Gov.

The Iron Fist: And see, that's another example. He keep the main, he basically, and maybe because he had to, you know what I'm saying? But, ⁓

2: I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know.

Big: That's facts too. And he has something to prove.

The Iron Fist: Hey What else what else was he I mean he did the armor all time he made his brain work for him You know I'm saying he came out of jail. He started, you know working out then got the look out with the armor raw I mean, I know I keep saying armor raw, but the under armor. Yeah, know what I'm saying. I knew I was messing up I knew I was messing up when I said it Right, but he kept it on brand and he kept

2: I thank him being I know, I'm in the next album!

Phone Home: where history gets brave.

Big: I'm going.

3eezy Bih: Wow, that'd be spraying interior car.

2: Neat, Neat women to the McKinley shop.

Big: Right on brand.

3eezy Bih: We'll do it by the time you do.

The Iron Fist: his focus on the music. You know what I'm saying? And when this again, it's just like with people who do sports. It's a difference between people who you know, who just focus on you got the Kobe's, you know what saying? They just focus on the main thing. They they they they not. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? They ain't in the clubs, you know, doing whatever they they keep staying focused. You know what saying?

Big: and like the old-timies.

3eezy Bih: No, they're old-timey, it's not the same as coke.

2: Nah, bro, let's not do that because I think...

Big: Ohtani is definitely a nigga who stay focused. Nigga took one million a year and made that shit work.

The Iron Fist: Ho.

3eezy Bih: Nah, I'm just saying he ain't, the COVID shit, COVID became great because of his persistence and his perseverance. ⁓ Tony is fucking LeBron. Like, you just born with that shit. Like, you just, that shit is fucking amazing.

The Iron Fist: Right.

Big: ⁓ I think that's one of the same too, but that nigga, yeah, yeah, he definitely born with it. I can't argue with that one, because that's true, but that nigga work hard, but he definitely born with it. You can tell he born with it.

3eezy Bih: I mean, don't get me wrong, is ab-nitive. Yeah, I ain't saying he ain't work hard. Yeah, I'm just saying if I had to, if I would compare a ton more to a nigga that would just, hey, nigga, go to league, go now. Yeah, you're wasting time, go.

Big: Yeah. But even with LeBron, LeBron be in the gym too though. That nigga, hey, him push it over basketball. He just might not be as talented as Kobe, but that nigga all about ball.

The Iron Fist: That's what I'm saying. Them guys who keep the main thing, the main thing, they get different results.

2: I think for sure if they didn't get kids, well I ain't gonna say for sure. My perception is if they didn't catch that Rico, Gunna would've for sure went to that fashion route. You know what I'm saying? That shit changed up. That charge changed up everything. You know what I'm saying?

The Iron Fist: Thanks, all. Yeah, yeah.

Phone Home: She just like me meal the meat meal like she nigga that jail she say them boys for it will save gunner. Yeah

2: For real. Yeah, yeah, and I think it's the same.

Big: I Gunna would have been way bigger. Cause he would have had the back of the thug. He still would have been cool with Lil Baby. He still would have been cool with Future. Cause D.S. Forrest still his highest selling album. The nigga did 150 on that album.

3eezy Bih: I'm not gonna lie to I'm-

The Iron Fist: Mm-hmm.

2: Alright cool, let me go first thing. I say this, I feel like if the charge, the Rico case ain't come through, Atlanta would have been bigger. Atlanta wouldn't have been bigger. think the culture, we think the snitching and all this dude crying shit is stupid, so motherfuckers take gun aside on it. Mind you.

Big: Yeah?

2: Gunner the same niggas Gucci to me cuz I didn't see these niggas get in front of camera for no reason say goofy ass shit What's I say goofy shit street shit? So alright cool. We just look at one nigga different than we see the other nigga, but I'm saying but the When when when the leto running like this they unstoppable boy They sound alike they can they get no songs alike New York sound like a melting pot. It sound like Don't

3eezy Bih: Thank

Big: Yeah, that's true.

3eezy Bih: I mean...

2: French Montana don't sound like that song that sound gone even though yeah Jada Kiss don't even sound like Jada Kiss like you know what saying it just sound like niggas that know how to rap

Phone Home: Yo yo yo yo yo yo yo

3eezy Bih: I don't think, ⁓ Hey, go go on, old James.

Phone Home: You know, man kick you in the door and bust up the 4-4. Man, fuck them niggas,

The Iron Fist: All you heard was Boppa GD, me know.

3eezy Bih: I ain't gonna lie to you. Going up on top, but I just, like...

2: pull out my sword and end up there.

Phone Home: You

2: You know, being a lean man and being a lean man in everything from 15.

Big: I think he definitely would have been way bigger. that nigga doing this shit with no features. He ain't got no Drake features. He ain't got no Future features.

The Iron Fist: You wanna picture this nigga just say that?

3eezy Bih: My god, my god, this is what I'm playing though.

2: I didn't think like I did risk my bad response it is they gonna leave man be everything 15 17

3eezy Bih: But that's what I'm about to say. I'm glad you did come for me. So that's what I'm saying. Like you the lead man with nobody doing nothing. Ain't nobody doing shit. I'm not saying he not, I'm not saying he, that's not my argument there. I know that, that's understood. But what I'm saying though is just like what Tup said, nigga, like, yeah, like, are you really like, it doesn't really separate you.

Big: He's doing better than the niggas that doing that ain't doing shit

The Iron Fist: But, I mean...

3eezy Bih: Like you good, yeah you, like how would we look at the league if our number one score was average at 17 points a game? Like damn, this the league now? So what I'm saying is, that's why I was making these faces when y'all talking about Gunnar, it's like damn bro, like, cause he really don't give you no, he don't give you nothing but a vibe song. He don't give you nothing else. He don't give you like, ⁓ man, did you hear what he don't give you no conversation lyrics.

Big: That's true.

3eezy Bih: He don't give you none of that. It's just, oh, it was a good song. I'm not discrediting him on I'm just saying what we used to, even with Drake, he can make, I'm gone and all that, whatever the name of the song, but he can also give you some bars like he did with Churchill, with Jack Harlow. Like he give us conversation lyrics and.

Big: That's his lane though.

2: I don't think I always lose.

Phone Home: We got five minutes, fellas.

The Iron Fist: Jack

Phone Home: Jeff.

3eezy Bih: The fact that like I keep saying this on every podcast, the fact that Drake, Kendrick and J. Cole is still our top three people. We ain't that, what are we doing? Like it's kind of like, damn, what the fuck is next?

Phone Home: I don't think that's fair though bro, I don't think that's fair because I think that's

Big: And I don't think they are top three. just think we got other top threes.

3eezy Bih: FOOL!

Big: A lot like you say NBA young boy niggas love NBA young boy niggas love Rod Wave niggas like like those are just the elite three those are the older that's how Jay-Z and Wayne was at a point you get what I mean they they not like

3eezy Bih: No, no, no, no, no, no, ⁓

Phone Home: Grab a shot.

The Iron Fist: Shiesty could've been one.

3eezy Bih: That's. Darryl, that's my point. That's what I'm saying. We have no, our elitist is 20 plus years old. I'm a 20 plus. That's what I'm saying. I didn't say you don't have other good artists.

The Iron Fist: But you also gotta think, like they go back to that point, Smooth said that time, you had a whole generation that got killed off though, you know what I'm saying? So like.

3eezy Bih: No, no, I owe the generation that.

Big: And you got like Don Toliver, you got Baby King, you got Noor coming up. Those are just like how Jay-Z was. Jay-Z came out in 95 and 2005, he should have been done. But that nigga was still on top in 05, 06, 07.

3eezy Bih: This nigga's name is Dylan Wallis. Bro, the fact that you mentioned Dunn, bro, the fact that you mentioned Dunn, Talaver and Baby King is my fucking example. This is exactly what I'm talking about, bro. Like, come on, bro, ain't no nothing.

Big: The top of the got the best selling album this year.

The Iron Fist: Baby came aight though.

Phone Home: ⁓ I don't think that's fair though, man, cause you got to think like But that's not that's not fair though bro because because Don Toliver sound is fucking amazing But but but but he can't help he can't help that the narrative is what you saying It's kind of like what y'all was saying like you're creating this narrative like man that they ain't Drake You know I'm saying he ain't Kendrick but like he has a he has a brand new

3eezy Bih: I'm not saying Darryl, ⁓ you're not hearing me bro. Hey good!

Phone Home: sound, but we're just not accepting that sound. You're just not accepting it.

Big: Riiigh!

3eezy Bih: Okay, accept this or not. I'm not, I'm not, nigga, some niggas don't accept Ron Wade. I'm not, I'm not, look, I'm not here, I'm not, I'm not here. Listen, I'm not here about preference, cause we, shit, like I always, my main example be two with JR Smil. Nigga, that's his favorite player, but he know that he ain't the best nigga out there. That's my favorite player. Just like I think Kyrie is one of the best players I ever seen in my life, but I know he ain't LeBron or Kobe.

Phone Home: What I mean, right?

Big: That's cool, but he's still a new sound.

3eezy Bih: Like I understand it.

Phone Home: But you can't, but you can't, but you can't, don't know how, you don't know how the stars can shine until the other niggas get out the league. Like you don't know how big they can be.

Big: Thanks.

3eezy Bih: But that's what I'm saying. The fact that the boys still have the money is another shot.

Big: Because look, look, I didn't know XXX, he right.

Phone Home: But they cannot, they they cannot, they can't leave the league. The league is open. It's a free fall. They can't leave the league. We in a different world. We in a different world. We not talking about 1999 when niggas was, they just pushed you out. We just in a different world. It's decentralized just like fucking crypto. Like niggas just everywhere. Just do what you wanna do.

3eezy Bih: So you...

Big: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But look, I tell you what though, I tell you what, Dunn, Talavera and Rhyway, them niggas still selling huge, like 150. Niggas sold 150, Rhyway just sold 150 on his last album, first week, that's crazy. Dunn, Talavera, I he did like 150, 175, that's huge. But when you got niggas like Young Thug only doing 50, niggas like...

2: Yeah. Right wife. Right wife?

Phone Home: I don't think you go ever... You're not going to see the wall. You're not gonna see the height of these artists anymore. I think that should be you know

3eezy Bih: I do want to clear something up. Hey, Darryl, don't, don't, hey, listen. I'm the Rod Wave nigga in this bit. Don't be trying act like you're giving me knowledge on my nigga Rod Wave. You know, I'm the Rod Wave nigga. Relax, my nigga. You know what I'm Relax, my nigga. I'm cool, I know my nigga numbers too, but don't make it look like you're the Rod Wave nigga on this bit, my nigga.

The Iron Fist: it.

Big: I just go to first week numbers. I just go to first week numbers. But Smoove, I kind of disagree though. I disagree because we do have artists that are reaching their heights. Like, okay, so like for instance, Juice WRLD, that nigga was huge. XX Tentasia, that nigga was huge. And these niggas, that ain't lyrical miracle, but I'm wondering like, how the f... Even Uzi at a point was huge as fuck. I'm like, what the fuck? And so it just... And Dunn, Talibbert, and Travis Scott.

Phone Home: What's up? Yeah. about.

2: The following. You know what? You know what?

Big: And Ron Wayne, that's the new, those are the new huge.

3eezy Bih: everyone.

Phone Home: We gotta wrap it up though.

Big: Before we go, I want to talk about, ⁓ Allset. Before we go, they said Lil Tjay just got arrested, but he has not been harmed, but is supposedly in connection with the Allset shooting at the Hard Rock Casino. So they're saying Lil Tjay supposedly, we're going to say allegedly shot Allset and we all know he been on that nigga $10,000.

3eezy Bih: Over 10, man.

Big: So over 10 bands, bro. But they been beefing too, though.

2: 10 bands. He got a platinum record.

Phone Home: and niggas think two sites are crazy, we're trying to get 25 million. Hey, these niggas think two sites are crazy, niggas, I think they've getting shot over $10. You think I ain't coming out to 25 million? I'm gonna hit your side of head with that Glock.

3eezy Bih: Hey, ⁓

Big: This whole week been crazy, boy. You

3eezy Bih: $10.

Big: Santa.

The Iron Fist: You

3eezy Bih: and

Big: Lil TJ ain't had no hit in forever. You know he want them 10 bands.

2: Boy, my broke ass guy is the bank for that shit, boy.

The Iron Fist: Hey Hey After this I think DCOs better tread lightly on who they sign You know I'm saying cuz this nigga he probably they coulda he probably coulda started something You know I'm saying cuz this ain't never been done before from from from what out of the scene You know I'm saying this is different What what you mean I ain't never seen I you I never heard of nobody robbing

Phone Home: Yeah, you know who's coming out of that damn 2000?

Big: That's like some Master PPMC type shit.

2: Why? What? What is?

The Iron Fist: their CEO, you know what I'm saying? Or the owner of the record.

Big: No, no, not they CEO, Master P, you heard the story, Master P, Rob Pemcee. With gunpoint, like same situation. Like, this shit crazy. I wonder how Gucci Manna feel out of this, though.

The Iron Fist: I heard I have heard of that before yeah yeah yeah I've heard of it yeah but I'm saying these boys better be careful who they getting business with you know I'm saying so that's all that's that's all I say all right y'all

Phone Home: Yeah. Fall on home, baby. Fall on home. Yes, sir. Yup.

Big: Yes, Follow-on.

3eezy Bih: I double

2: Bye! ⁓

The Iron Fist: Water.